(02-09-2026 08:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 08:23 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 08:17 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 07:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 02:38 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Next year I have zero doubts that we're going to see a middle of the road generic least offensive possible music act for the 2027 superbowl.

As someone else pointed out, a middle of the road act is pretty unlikely with Jay-Z's Roc-Nation being in control of the halftime show. Its always going to be some rap/hip-hop act.

Honestly, this particular choice was really pretty ridiculous. Lets just pretend it was the biggest soccer championship event in Mexico and the powers in charge decided the halftime entertainment would be a white American Country and Western singer who did a show all in English explaining how great American culture is. I wonder how well that would go over in Mexico or in any other Latin American nation. Its just a bumbling tin ear type move by the NFL to expect it to be what NJ most Super Bowl fans want to see. The reality is the league is turning its back on its own core fan base---and its been doing so for years----really for no intelligent reason that I can discern.

Everyone is acting as if the NFL has zero say over who plays at THEIR halftime show. Bad Bunny played the show because the NFL either wanted it too or were neutral over it. To be frank, it was a shitshow. No one wants a repeat of it. Someone will find some Diddy or Epstein dirt to apply to JayZ. Morality clause will be invoked and he’ll get booted if he refuses to cooperate.

as I mentioned once 'trans'lated, there's no way that's allowable on broadcast tele if in english...

fk'n fkbags...

Reason 2,315 as to why I no longer watch the Stupor Bowl or any NFL contests or product.

Yet another reason all college football fans should be concerned about ESPN and FOX's relationship with them.

I watched my last NFL telecast in 1985. I haven't missed it. It's not a sport. They claim it is an entertainment industry and it is as real as pro wrestling!

What was once great and American through the 70's became corporate. The corporate touch is as destructive as that of King Midas. They may turn it into goal but they destroy it's history and life when they touch it.

JR, it's too funny at times ... watched this the other day just as a reminder how fun it used to be...

edit: you have to click it ... '85 bears





I'm almost devoid of sports at this point in my life ... the under/over middle was a gimme putt last night ... and I didn't play it, nor give a shite...

Stupid me just realized (forgot) that this year is the 250th anniversary of the country. The Bad Bunny choice is more retarded than I thought. So fuckingstupid

(02-09-2026 09:44 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Stupid me just realized (forgot) that this year is the 250th anniversary of the country. The Bad Bunny choice is more retarded than I thought. So fuckingstupid

It wasn't an accident.

(02-09-2026 08:09 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 02:25 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Next year, let's have a Retro Halftime Act.

I was fortunate enough to attend SuperBowl XXXIII in Miami in 1999. Falcons vs. Broncos. Elway's last game.

Music was fantastic. Let's bring it back. Most of them are still alive, lol.

Pregame Performance: Kiss.
National Anthem: Cher.
Halftime Show: Gloria Estefan, Stevie Wonder, and Big Bad Voodoo Daddy.

KISS opened Super Bowl XXXIII with a bombastic version of "Rock And Roll All Nite!"

The halftime show was titled "A Celebration of Soul, Salsa and Swing" and featured Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, Stevie Wonder, and Gloria Estefan.

I like Gloria's stuff in Spanish. Even have one of her Spanish language albums. Its a beautiful language, but not with the stuff I heard at the halftime this week.

Agree. I like her music. All of them that day were top notch. But that was 28 years ago now. Damn.

If Tejano music artist (and fellow Texan) Selena hadn't been murdered, I bet she would've performed at the Super Bowl Halftime Show between 1996 and 2010. She was starting to build crossover appeal when she was killed in 1995.

(02-09-2026 09:16 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 08:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 08:23 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 08:17 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 07:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  As someone else pointed out, a middle of the road act is pretty unlikely with Jay-Z's Roc-Nation being in control of the halftime show. Its always going to be some rap/hip-hop act.

Honestly, this particular choice was really pretty ridiculous. Lets just pretend it was the biggest soccer championship event in Mexico and the powers in charge decided the halftime entertainment would be a white American Country and Western singer who did a show all in English explaining how great American culture is. I wonder how well that would go over in Mexico or in any other Latin American nation. Its just a bumbling tin ear type move by the NFL to expect it to be what NJ most Super Bowl fans want to see. The reality is the league is turning its back on its own core fan base---and its been doing so for years----really for no intelligent reason that I can discern.

Everyone is acting as if the NFL has zero say over who plays at THEIR halftime show. Bad Bunny played the show because the NFL either wanted it too or were neutral over it. To be frank, it was a shitshow. No one wants a repeat of it. Someone will find some Diddy or Epstein dirt to apply to JayZ. Morality clause will be invoked and he’ll get booted if he refuses to cooperate.

as I mentioned once 'trans'lated, there's no way that's allowable on broadcast tele if in english...

fk'n fkbags...

Reason 2,315 as to why I no longer watch the Stupor Bowl or any NFL contests or product.

Yet another reason all college football fans should be concerned about ESPN and FOX's relationship with them.

I watched my last NFL telecast in 1985. I haven't missed it. It's not a sport. They claim it is an entertainment industry and it is as real as pro wrestling!

What was once great and American through the 70's became corporate. The corporate touch is as destructive as that of King Midas. They may turn it into goal but they destroy it's history and life when they touch it.

JR, it's too funny at times ... watched this the other day just as a reminder how fun it used to be...

edit: you have to click it ... '85 bears





I'm almost devoid of sports at this point in my life ... the under/over middle was a gimme putt last night ... and I didn't play it, nor give a shite...

just for you, JR ... I was blessed to move to the sip in '74 and play golf with this 'Guy' during his post-retirement '80s and '90s ... was pure awe when I shook his hand for the first time at 5'-6" (soon to become his frame of 6'-3") ... it's a shame how it ended for him ... was the best of gentleMen and pure athletes there ever was...





#RIPmr.Ray!

(02-09-2026 11:15 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 09:16 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 08:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 08:23 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 08:17 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Everyone is acting as if the NFL has zero say over who plays at THEIR halftime show. Bad Bunny played the show because the NFL either wanted it too or were neutral over it. To be frank, it was a shitshow. No one wants a repeat of it. Someone will find some Diddy or Epstein dirt to apply to JayZ. Morality clause will be invoked and he’ll get booted if he refuses to cooperate.

as I mentioned once 'trans'lated, there's no way that's allowable on broadcast tele if in english...

fk'n fkbags...

Reason 2,315 as to why I no longer watch the Stupor Bowl or any NFL contests or product.

Yet another reason all college football fans should be concerned about ESPN and FOX's relationship with them.

I watched my last NFL telecast in 1985. I haven't missed it. It's not a sport. They claim it is an entertainment industry and it is as real as pro wrestling!

What was once great and American through the 70's became corporate. The corporate touch is as destructive as that of King Midas. They may turn it into goal but they destroy it's history and life when they touch it.

JR, it's too funny at times ... watched this the other day just as a reminder how fun it used to be...

edit: you have to click it ... '85 bears





I'm almost devoid of sports at this point in my life ... the under/over middle was a gimme putt last night ... and I didn't play it, nor give a shite...

just for you, JR ... I was blessed to move to the sip in '74 and play golf with this 'Guy' during his post-retirement '80s and '90s ... was pure awe when I shook his hand for the first time at 5'-6" (soon to become his frame of 6'-3") ... it's a shame how it ended for him ... was the best of gentleMen and pure athletes there ever was...





#RIPmr.Ray!

Loved the Raiders! From Lamonica to Plunkett great fun with Al Davis and "Just Win Baby!" Never PC enough for the corporations when they took over. It was the death knell of the Raiders. Ben Davidson picking up Namath and spiking him into the ground was as wild as it gets. My dad knew Stabler. Ray Guy was a prodigy punter before that position produced stars.

Different era, different men!

(02-09-2026 08:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 03:19 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 01:05 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 12:54 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 12:40 PM)bullet Wrote:  That guy got shot because he grabbed for the guy's gun instead of waiting for the police to defuse the situation. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. And he probably was going through that vacant house looking for things to steal.

And the guys with the guns also played stupid games and won the prize of years in jail. They were playing cop.

I don't have much sympathy for someone who trespassed and then grabbed for a gun.

So no, that doesn't bother me. Stupid people met and bad things happened, just like with Obama's "son" and the Hispanic wannabe cop.

I have no idea what you're referencing, bullet.

I was alluding to Ahmaud Arbery.

I have lots of MAGA friends who live in the same condo building I live in and we meet for coffee every Saturday. When Arbery was shot just for jogging, they kind of shrugged and said, "That's unfortunate." But when pro athletes take a knee during the anthem, my same MAGA friends go ballistic. Seems odd to me.

That is exactly what I was referring to. Its sad. You don't have anything but the MSM talking points instead of whole story.

There were a lot of break-ins in their neighborhood so 3 guys decided to play cop. Arbery stopped on his jog and starts going through this vacant house/construction site. They assumed he was robbing the place so they cornered him and held him at gunpoint while they called the police. He tried to get the gun from one of the guys and got shot.

He got shot for trying to take a gun away from someone, not for jogging while Black.

That's what's wrong with America. Three second talking points.

I have seen various accounts of what happened so I don't know what to believe. But a jury ruled in favor of the prosecution and against the three white men. Maybe you should blame it on the jury and the defendants lawyers. And not the media.

I'm willing to readily acknowledge (if the full truth ever is revealed) that Arbury was fully at fault. He had a record. Maybe he "asked for it." The defendants claim he tried to take the gun. Maybe he did. Do we have proof of that? Again, I'm willing to have my mind changed.

That still does not negate my general argument: There are white people who get more upset when a black pro athlete takes a knee during the national anthem than they get when an innocent black person is wrongly murdered (whether Arbury or not). I've seen this (in my building, no less) first hand.

And by the way: 1. I always stand at attention when the anthem is played. My father served. I'm pro police and pro military. Blacks can be racists. The black man on the subway who murdered the European girl ... I won't lose sleep if he gets the death penalty. There are elements of the left that disgust me. Biden sniffed women's hair. Pathetic. I could go on.

You may not know any white people who get more upset when a black pro athlete takes a knee during the national anthem than they do when an innocent and decent black person is wrongly murdered, bullet.

But I do. And I pity them.

Again, you are buying the MSM talking points!!!

They took the law in their own hands. The brought the gun into the action. So they got convicted under the law. That doesn't mean anything other than they were stupid and Arbery got shot because he was stupid and instead of waiting patiently tried to jump one of the guys. Each side bears 100% of the responsibility. And the same thing might have happened if the jogger was white.

I just watched the Bryan-taken video (had been a while) and it remains unclear to me what happened with the struggle that led to the shooting. I'm open to the possibility that Arbury wasn't simply out for a jog only but was also "casing" some places.

Regardless, it concerns me that there are white people who don't care if innocent blacks are killed and black people who don't care if innocent whites are killed.

Define innocent

(02-09-2026 08:23 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 08:17 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 07:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 02:38 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Next year I have zero doubts that we're going to see a middle of the road generic least offensive possible music act for the 2027 superbowl.

As someone else pointed out, a middle of the road act is pretty unlikely with Jay-Z's Roc-Nation being in control of the halftime show. Its always going to be some rap/hip-hop act.

Honestly, this particular choice was really pretty ridiculous. Lets just pretend it was the biggest soccer championship event in Mexico and the powers in charge decided the halftime entertainment would be a white American Country and Western singer who did a show all in English explaining how great American culture is. I wonder how well that would go over in Mexico or in any other Latin American nation. Its just a bumbling tin ear type move by the NFL to expect it to be what NJ most Super Bowl fans want to see. The reality is the league is turning its back on its own core fan base---and its been doing so for years----really for no intelligent reason that I can discern.

Everyone is acting as if the NFL has zero say over who plays at THEIR halftime show. Bad Bunny played the show because the NFL either wanted it too or were neutral over it. To be frank, it was a shitshow. No one wants a repeat of it. Someone will find some Diddy or Epstein dirt to apply to JayZ. Morality clause will be invoked and he’ll get booted if he refuses to cooperate.

as I mentioned once 'trans'lated, there's no way that's allowable on broadcast tele if in english...

fk'n fkbags...

I guess that explains why they didnt use English subtitles so non-spanish speakers could have a clue as to what was going on.

(02-10-2026 01:09 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 08:23 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 08:17 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 07:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 02:38 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Next year I have zero doubts that we're going to see a middle of the road generic least offensive possible music act for the 2027 superbowl.

As someone else pointed out, a middle of the road act is pretty unlikely with Jay-Z's Roc-Nation being in control of the halftime show. Its always going to be some rap/hip-hop act.

Honestly, this particular choice was really pretty ridiculous. Lets just pretend it was the biggest soccer championship event in Mexico and the powers in charge decided the halftime entertainment would be a white American Country and Western singer who did a show all in English explaining how great American culture is. I wonder how well that would go over in Mexico or in any other Latin American nation. Its just a bumbling tin ear type move by the NFL to expect it to be what NJ most Super Bowl fans want to see. The reality is the league is turning its back on its own core fan base---and its been doing so for years----really for no intelligent reason that I can discern.

Everyone is acting as if the NFL has zero say over who plays at THEIR halftime show. Bad Bunny played the show because the NFL either wanted it too or were neutral over it. To be frank, it was a shitshow. No one wants a repeat of it. Someone will find some Diddy or Epstein dirt to apply to JayZ. Morality clause will be invoked and he’ll get booted if he refuses to cooperate.

as I mentioned once 'trans'lated, there's no way that's allowable on broadcast tele if in english...

fk'n fkbags...

I guess that explains why they didnt use English subtitles so non-spanish speakers could have a clue as to what was going on.

lol ... didn't know b/c didn't watch ... and I do love CC in today's world ...

rules for 'thee', Ja?! ... this is the shite I really hate...

(02-09-2026 04:29 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 04:21 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  I don't actually care at all about this.

Well thats no fun. This is better than the monkey thread

PR tidbits

We got PR when we kicked Spain's arse. Maybe they want it back.

PR marxist nationalists attacked congress and that idiot Carter commuted their sentence

https://history.house.gov/Oral-History/E...-Shooting/

All the PR love is absurd.

Cut em off.

Apparently the flag used by supporters of PR independence was part of the Halftime show Sunday night. Confirm with somebody who watched, but maybe there is common ground between BadBunny and ShereKhan.

Until later when the tiger eats the rabbit, LOL

(02-09-2026 04:29 PM)shere khan Wrote:  PR marxist nationalists attacked congress and that idiot Carter commuted their sentence

https://history.house.gov/Oral-History/E...-Shooting/

I’m inclined to cut Carter a bit of slack on that one. The PR terrorists had already served 25 years, and their release was kind of an unofficial prisoner exchange with Castro’s Cuba.

But yes, of course they should have been killed by police back on March 1, 1954.

(02-09-2026 04:42 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 04:07 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 03:20 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  As the resident Puerto Rican on the board (who still has family that live on the island), there are three camps:

A) Puerto Ricans who want independence
B) Puerto Ricans who want statehood
C) Puerto Ricans who want to keep things like it is

There have been numerous polls on this and B and C are by far the most popular options. The folks who want independence are sven seen as crazy by the left leaning people in PR, who understand they could not survive on their own.

Well you are closest to it. In all seriousness how does it get fixed. Throwing money at PR has not made it a better place.

Our country is bleeding to death.

I don’t think it’s a good idea to let them go independent. Then we are dealing with potentially socialist and eventually communist country in our hemisphere which could be detrimental to national security.

I would prefer statehood to the current arrangement, but only if we could offset it with an addition of Alberta or some other more conservative people.

That's an interesting statement. You think statehood is the best solution for the PR people, but only if it gets balanced out politically so that you can keep some GOP control of the country in place? Wow, talk about team over country...and even family.

How about statehood and you win them over to your side with policy and support instead?

(02-09-2026 11:49 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Define innocent

I assume this is addressed to me, BTF.

Odd choice of words on my part. I didn't mean "innocent" (as that suggests a legal system component). I simply meant by "innocent" regular folks of all types who, in general, are simply trying to get by, do the right thing, etc.

The more I've pondered this, the more I just have to ask myself, "Why should I or anybody else care about a half-time show performer being required to "unite" the country?" The performer is simply there to entertain.

The NFL is a business. If it wants to have a performer whom the socio-political right hates ... more power to the NFL. And if the NFL wants to have a performer whom the socio-political left hates, more power to the the NFL. And if the NFL goes bankrupt because enough folks (on either the left or right) tune out, stop buying tickets, etc. ... that's capitalism. And I love it.

(02-09-2026 11:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 11:15 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 09:16 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 08:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 08:23 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  as I mentioned once 'trans'lated, there's no way that's allowable on broadcast tele if in english...

fk'n fkbags...

Reason 2,315 as to why I no longer watch the Stupor Bowl or any NFL contests or product.

Yet another reason all college football fans should be concerned about ESPN and FOX's relationship with them.

I watched my last NFL telecast in 1985. I haven't missed it. It's not a sport. They claim it is an entertainment industry and it is as real as pro wrestling!

What was once great and American through the 70's became corporate. The corporate touch is as destructive as that of King Midas. They may turn it into goal but they destroy it's history and life when they touch it.

JR, it's too funny at times ... watched this the other day just as a reminder how fun it used to be...

edit: you have to click it ... '85 bears





I'm almost devoid of sports at this point in my life ... the under/over middle was a gimme putt last night ... and I didn't play it, nor give a shite...

just for you, JR ... I was blessed to move to the sip in '74 and play golf with this 'Guy' during his post-retirement '80s and '90s ... was pure awe when I shook his hand for the first time at 5'-6" (soon to become his frame of 6'-3") ... it's a shame how it ended for him ... was the best of gentleMen and pure athletes there ever was...





#RIPmr.Ray!

Loved the Raiders! From Lamonica to Plunkett great fun with Al Davis and "Just Win Baby!" Never PC enough for the corporations when they took over. It was the death knell of the Raiders. Ben Davidson picking up Namath and spiking him into the ground was as wild as it gets. My dad knew Stabler. Ray Guy was a prodigy punter before that position produced stars.

Different era, different men!

During the Fedora days my dad, my son and me rode up to H'burg to watch USM play Houston because it wasn't available on the Coast on our TV provider (different times). I guess it was 2011 or so. We went to the original Mugshots and Ray and his crew was at the hightop next to us. Spoke to him a little. My son (7 or so) was driving me nuts to play a video game and I ran out of quarters. Ray heard him whining to me and Ray pulled out about 4 dollars worth of quarters out of his pocket and said, "Here kid, wear it out". My son had a hero for life. My brother is a big Raiders' fan. He was a left-handed QB in high school and wore #8. I took a selfie with Ray that day and sent it to him. He probably still has that picture on his phone today.

(02-10-2026 10:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 04:42 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 04:07 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 03:20 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  As the resident Puerto Rican on the board (who still has family that live on the island), there are three camps:

A) Puerto Ricans who want independence
B) Puerto Ricans who want statehood
C) Puerto Ricans who want to keep things like it is

There have been numerous polls on this and B and C are by far the most popular options. The folks who want independence are sven seen as crazy by the left leaning people in PR, who understand they could not survive on their own.

Well you are closest to it. In all seriousness how does it get fixed. Throwing money at PR has not made it a better place.

Our country is bleeding to death.

I don’t think it’s a good idea to let them go independent. Then we are dealing with potentially socialist and eventually communist country in our hemisphere which could be detrimental to national security.

I would prefer statehood to the current arrangement, but only if we could offset it with an addition of Alberta or some other more conservative people.

That's an interesting statement. You think statehood is the best solution for the PR people, but only if it gets balanced out politically so that you can keep some GOP control of the country in place? Wow, talk about team over country...and even family.

How about statehood and you win them over to your side with policy and support instead?

The opposite actually, I don’t think PR could survive as an independent nation. The island has been invaded so many times- Spain, France, England, The Dutch- heck even the Kalingo tribe came up from South America to pillage on numerous occasions in the pre-colonial days. I would hate to see some more oppressive nation come in and set up shop so close to mainland US.

(02-10-2026 10:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 04:42 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 04:07 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 03:20 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  As the resident Puerto Rican on the board (who still has family that live on the island), there are three camps:

A) Puerto Ricans who want independence
B) Puerto Ricans who want statehood
C) Puerto Ricans who want to keep things like it is

There have been numerous polls on this and B and C are by far the most popular options. The folks who want independence are sven seen as crazy by the left leaning people in PR, who understand they could not survive on their own.

Well you are closest to it. In all seriousness how does it get fixed. Throwing money at PR has not made it a better place.

Our country is bleeding to death.

I don’t think it’s a good idea to let them go independent. Then we are dealing with potentially socialist and eventually communist country in our hemisphere which could be detrimental to national security.

I would prefer statehood to the current arrangement, but only if we could offset it with an addition of Alberta or some other more conservative people.

That's an interesting statement. You think statehood is the best solution for the PR people, but only if it gets balanced out politically so that you can keep some GOP control of the country in place? Wow, talk about team over country...and even family.

How about statehood and you win them over to your side with policy and support instead?

Translation...we Dems will continue and increase "free stuff".

You really won't be happy until the nation is bankrupt and in a depression. Your goal of destroying the United States of America is within reach. Congrats.

(02-10-2026 10:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 04:42 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 04:07 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-09-2026 03:20 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  As the resident Puerto Rican on the board (who still has family that live on the island), there are three camps:

A) Puerto Ricans who want independence
B) Puerto Ricans who want statehood
C) Puerto Ricans who want to keep things like it is

There have been numerous polls on this and B and C are by far the most popular options. The folks who want independence are sven seen as crazy by the left leaning people in PR, who understand they could not survive on their own.

Well you are closest to it. In all seriousness how does it get fixed. Throwing money at PR has not made it a better place.

Our country is bleeding to death.

I don’t think it’s a good idea to let them go independent. Then we are dealing with potentially socialist and eventually communist country in our hemisphere which could be detrimental to national security.

I would prefer statehood to the current arrangement, but only if we could offset it with an addition of Alberta or some other more conservative people.

That's an interesting statement. You think statehood is the best solution for the PR people, but only if it gets balanced out politically so that you can keep some GOP control of the country in place? Wow, talk about team over country...and even family.

How about statehood and you win them over to your side with policy and support instead?

How about they clean their shitehole up and sell us a reason to allow them to be a state.

Wtf is wrong with you. Are you ever right?