(01-08-2026 01:00 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 10:34 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 10:26 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  If she was "just leaving the scene", she was leaving her "wife" on the sidewalk filming. Seems like she would have just said to the ICE agents. "OK, we are leaving. Come on honey get in the car, we're leaving." That isn't what happened. She was out of control and hit an agent that was standing in front her vehicle while the other agents were trying to get her out of the car. She blew it and the cost was her life.

This. And supposedly (from a post earlier in this thread), her "wife" put her up to doing it for clicks. If federal lawyers really wanted to, they could bring the "wife" up on charges.

But of course, the left will present her as a grieving widow who was just trying to film the love of her life doing something "cool" instead of obstructing justice, trying to kill a federal agent with their car, and, really, not complying with federal agents. Because the left loves lawlessness. It's sad, too, because if previous presidents on both sides of the aisle had simply enforced immigration policy, this wouldn't have happened. But one side wants to import folks illegally from the third world and give them free stuff in the hope they vote for them once they're granted citizenship when they're able to give them that. And anything that opposes their agenda is deemed all sorts of names in the book.

Still, what do I know? I'm a country bumpkin from Southeast Texas.

Doesn't matter. Give them the legal hell they deserve. And it should be easy to find out who paid the dead woman. Go arrest them. Shut down the money! Get Bondi off her ass and go after the leaders, not the foot soldiers.

I'm right there with ya. Go after those who truly caused this! I'm just stating extremely lackadaisical border control and the dehumanization of law enforcement led to this.

(01-08-2026 12:07 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 12:04 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  The officer that shot Ashley Babbit thought his life was in danger from her???

You cannot be serious.

Not that I want to rehash all of this again, but he was on the other side of a barracaded door where a lot of people were trying to break through. He was concerned for his safety and the elected officials including the VPOTUS.

I view it through the same lens of what happened yesterday with the ICE agent. He was concerned about his safety and the safety of the other officers on the scene.

One person came through a window. He could have easily shot through the window and hit one of his fellow officers who were calmly escorting people down the stairs and out of the building. It was a totally unreasonable shooting. Don't sit there and tell us lies about what was going on at the time. He came out from behind a column, marched up and shot a woman who was semi-stuck in a window.

(01-08-2026 01:04 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 01:00 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 10:34 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 10:26 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  If she was "just leaving the scene", she was leaving her "wife" on the sidewalk filming. Seems like she would have just said to the ICE agents. "OK, we are leaving. Come on honey get in the car, we're leaving." That isn't what happened. She was out of control and hit an agent that was standing in front her vehicle while the other agents were trying to get her out of the car. She blew it and the cost was her life.

This. And supposedly (from a post earlier in this thread), her "wife" put her up to doing it for clicks. If federal lawyers really wanted to, they could bring the "wife" up on charges.

But of course, the left will present her as a grieving widow who was just trying to film the love of her life doing something "cool" instead of obstructing justice, trying to kill a federal agent with their car, and, really, not complying with federal agents. Because the left loves lawlessness. It's sad, too, because if previous presidents on both sides of the aisle had simply enforced immigration policy, this wouldn't have happened. But one side wants to import folks illegally from the third world and give them free stuff in the hope they vote for them once they're granted citizenship when they're able to give them that. And anything that opposes their agenda is deemed all sorts of names in the book.

Still, what do I know? I'm a country bumpkin from Southeast Texas.

Doesn't matter. Give them the legal hell they deserve. And it should be easy to find out who paid the dead woman. Go arrest them. Shut down the money! Get Bondi off her ass and go after the leaders, not the foot soldiers.

I'm right there with ya. Go after those who truly caused this! I'm just stating extremely lackadaisical border control and the dehumanization of law enforcement led to this.

even the mafia was smart enough to not go after the LEOs...

Bondi needs get up off her arse, STAT!!!

whatever multiple agencies are funding this bs, they gotta go the hangman...

Quote:This is preposterous.

First of all, she's not waving the officers through and has no right to do so even if she were. She is waving another car through, before the officers approach her car.

Second, the officers are not randomly searching her, they are approaching her vehicle because she is violating the law: namely, she is obstructing a lawful enforcement operation. You're not allowed to walk up to or drive up to people who are enforcing the law to make it harder for them to do their jobs.

Third, this defense attorney is drawing a meaningless distinction between an ICE officer and a "real police officer." Again, you're not allowed to interrupt a lawful enforcement operation, which is exactly what this woman was doing.

Fourth, the officer didn't discharge his weapon to prevent her from fleeing. When he discharged his weapon, she had pointed the vehicle at him and pressed the gas. He discharged his weapon in self defense, and other angles of the video show the woman *clearly* hit the officer with her car while accelerating.

The gaslighting is off the charts and I'm having none of it. This guy was doing his job. She tried to stop him from doing his job. When he approached her car, she tried to hit him.

A tragedy? Absolutely. But a tragedy that falls on this woman and all of the radicals who teach people that immigration is the one type of law that rioters are allowed to interfere with.

(01-08-2026 01:01 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

The children have lost their mother and it saddens me.

It stinks, but she made a bad decision.

(01-08-2026 08:25 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 08:21 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  It is a slippery slope for sure. I know our Forum Council will back the victim, but the situation it totality is a no-win.

- Illegal immigrants are in the area (that is a Federal Law)
- Federal Law Enforcement (ICE) is enforcing the law
- This woman took it upon herself to insert herself in the middle of a legal ICE Operation
- She is approached (yes aggressively) but she certainly appeared to take a stance of non-compliance

Then it gets gray really fast... She decides to back up quickly then hit the gas to go forward, the LEO is in front of the vehicle which does appear to turn to the right.



In the position of that LEO - he is not seeing that turn in the second it happened - she is already not complying and had made a reckless move - what is he supposed to do other than what he chose (in a split second). You don't have time to mull over the options.

I do not believe the LEO was wrong under the circumstances.


As for the Mayor - FU - take the seriousness of people living in your city who are BREAKING THE LAW and do something about it yourself - then, ICE is not needing to be there. If you were DOING YOUR JOB in the first place, this never happens.....

You’re conveniently omitting that she was told to leave by an ice officer. Which command is she supposed to comply with to not get executed?

How do you know she was told to leave? It certainly looks like they told her something for sure, but it is unlikely her answer was "oh, Ok let me move sir"; otherwise, why would the LEO immediately go for the door like he did?

Were you there, did you record the conversation?

Tanq, it was reported by Fox that the agents motioned to her to move her car out of the middle of the street, and she refused. (You can see her car still blocking the street as the agents approach her car).

So then they asked her to get out of the car, since they were now going to arrest her. She obviously did not.

Meanwhile, her wife was standing outside the car filming all of this, so they obviously were trying to instigate some reaction by ICE that they could later post online.

When they asked her to get out of the car, she backed up a bit, with an agent's arm inside her window trying to unlock her door, turned her wheels and stepped on the gas, then hitting another agent.

Those were not conflicting orders. They were sequential, changing as she reacted. You can hear it on some videos.

At this point, whether she "intended" to hit him or not is moot. She "did" hit him. He fired. She is dead. I'm talking about reality, not lawsuits. Get it now?

Also, you continue to take the side of the left on every issue.

(01-08-2026 01:06 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 12:07 PM)mlb Wrote:  Not that I want to rehash all of this again, but he was on the other side of a barracaded door where a lot of people were trying to break through. He was concerned for his safety and the elected officials including the VPOTUS.

I view it through the same lens of what happened yesterday with the ICE agent. He was concerned about his safety and the safety of the other officers on the scene.

One person came through a window. He could have easily shot through the window and hit one of his fellow officers who were calmly escorting people down the stairs and out of the building. It was a totally unreasonable shooting. Don't sit there and tell us lies about what was going on at the time. He came out from behind a column, marched up and shot a woman who was semi-stuck in a window.

Your view and my view are completely different, obviously. They aren't being escorted out, they are breaking windows and trying to break down the doors. On top of that she was given plenty of warning that the officer had his gun out... others trying to break down the door said "he has a gun" for 5 seconds before the officer shot her.

Again, I'm not going to question someone in law enforcement when they are in the heat of the moment and have concern for their own safety or the safety of others whom they are trying to protect. Just as I'm not questioning the ICE officer as he felt he and his fellow agents were at risk so he took it upon himself to mitigate that risk.

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/capitol-sh...9180613572

You cannot be seriously using NBC as a credible source.

(01-08-2026 01:17 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 01:06 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 12:07 PM)mlb Wrote:  Not that I want to rehash all of this again, but he was on the other side of a barracaded door where a lot of people were trying to break through. He was concerned for his safety and the elected officials including the VPOTUS.

I view it through the same lens of what happened yesterday with the ICE agent. He was concerned about his safety and the safety of the other officers on the scene.

One person came through a window. He could have easily shot through the window and hit one of his fellow officers who were calmly escorting people down the stairs and out of the building. It was a totally unreasonable shooting. Don't sit there and tell us lies about what was going on at the time. He came out from behind a column, marched up and shot a woman who was semi-stuck in a window.

Your view and my view are completely different, obviously. They aren't being escorted out, they are breaking windows and trying to break down the doors. On top of that she was given plenty of warning that the officer had his gun out... others trying to break down the door said "he has a gun" for 5 seconds before the officer shot her.

Again, I'm not going to question someone in law enforcement when they are in the heat of the moment and have concern for their own safety or the safety of others whom they are trying to protect. Just as I'm not questioning the ICE officer as he felt he and his fellow agents were at risk so he took it upon himself to mitigate that risk.

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/capitol-sh...9180613572

Mine is based on facts of watching the video. It was all being resolved on the other side of the door. There were a dozen officers. And also the fact that nobody else pulled their gun. And the fact that he was walking through the Capitol earlier being reckless with his gun. There's video of that. If it was one of those officers who was getting crushed by the crowd pushing in the doors entering the building, I would have more sympathy. But none of those people pulled a gun. When a thousand others who were in much tougher situations didn't shoot, his was not reasonable. But I don't want to get off topic, so that's the last I'll say on that shooting.

In this case the car came toward him. It was clear.

(01-08-2026 01:14 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Tanq, it was reported by Fox that the agents motioned to her to move her car out of the middle of the street, and she refused. (You can see her car still blocking the street as the agents approach her car).

So then they asked her to get out of the car, since they were now going to arrest her. She obviously did not.

Meanwhile, her wife was standing outside the car filming all of this, so they obviously were trying to instigate some reaction by ICE that they could later post online.

When they asked her to get out of the car, she backed up a bit, with an agent's arm inside her window trying to unlock her door, turned her wheels and stepped on the gas, then hitting another agent.

Those were not conflicting orders. They were sequential, changing as she reacted. You can hear it on some videos.

At this point, whether she "intended" to hit him or not is moot. She "did" hit him. He fired. She is dead. I'm talking about reality, not lawsuits. Get it now?

Also, you continue to take the side of the left on every issue.

Yep. "Conservative leanings" my ass. The guy's a leftist. I don't care what he says.

(01-08-2026 12:36 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 09:27 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:REPORTER: "Mayor Frey called the claims of self-defense BS. How do you respond to that?"

SEC NOEM: "I say that he doesn't know what he's talking about. It's very clear that this individual was harassing and impeding law enforcement operations. Our officer followed his training, did exactly what he's been taught to do in that situation, and took actions to defend himself and defend his fellow law enforcement officers."

Quote:Sec. Kristi Noem says that just TODAY, there have been four ramming attacks on federal officers, three of which happened in Minneapolis.

"We've seen over 100 of these vehicle rammings happen in just recent weeks."

Later she reveals that the ICE agent involved in this shooting had been rammed and dragged by an anti-ICE rioter last June.

If you use your vehicle to impede, evade, or attack law enforcement, the consequences, however preventable, are your fault.

(01-08-2026 01:22 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  You cannot be seriously using NBC as a credible source.

It's the video, there is no editorial part of it.

(01-08-2026 01:17 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 01:06 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-08-2026 12:07 PM)mlb Wrote:  Not that I want to rehash all of this again, but he was on the other side of a barracaded door where a lot of people were trying to break through. He was concerned for his safety and the elected officials including the VPOTUS.

I view it through the same lens of what happened yesterday with the ICE agent. He was concerned about his safety and the safety of the other officers on the scene.

One person came through a window. He could have easily shot through the window and hit one of his fellow officers who were calmly escorting people down the stairs and out of the building. It was a totally unreasonable shooting. Don't sit there and tell us lies about what was going on at the time. He came out from behind a column, marched up and shot a woman who was semi-stuck in a window.

Your view and my view are completely different, obviously. They aren't being escorted out, they are breaking windows and trying to break down the doors. On top of that she was given plenty of warning that the officer had his gun out... others trying to break down the door said "he has a gun" for 5 seconds before the officer shot her.

Again, I'm not going to question someone in law enforcement when they are in the heat of the moment and have concern for their own safety or the safety of others whom they are trying to protect. Just as I'm not questioning the ICE officer as he felt he and his fellow agents were at risk so he took it upon himself to mitigate that risk.

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/capitol-sh...9180613572

You dont need a "view". We have video of it.

Antifa guy breaks the glass.

Ashley punches hi m in the face and knocks his glasses off.

She gets shot in the neck.

The shot should have never been taken because A) Byrd wasnt in any danger and B) there were others including LEO's in the line of fire.

This is what happens when you put a guy in this DEI position who shouldnt have been in that position in the first place because he already mishandled his weapon. Now it turns out he and his wife have been committing fraud for the past 15 or so years.

Babbitts shooting is on video. We dont need anyones view of what happened when we can see it for ourselves.

6 months ago the same officer was nearly killed, drug by vehicle over 300ft ago serving a warrant on an illegal.

And you have retards calling him and other agents the gestapo. Gtfo

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If the front tires (front wheel drive) didn't slip when she pressed the gas to go forward, the officer would have been under the car. That is the only thing that saved him and gave him time to draw his weapon and only get bumped by the front corner.

(01-08-2026 02:21 PM)maximus Wrote:  Spot effin on

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and he won’t play as nice as Trump does you retarded leftist pricks

Question; who here would act like this woman?