(01-03-2026 07:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 07:03 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 06:51 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 05:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 05:26 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Drugs aside, I'm against nation building, regardless of who is President.

Should we align more with our Central and South American brethren over Europe? Yes

Should we turn them into future Americans? Absolutely not.

None of it is nation building. All of it in the South China Sea and Southern Pacific, in the Ukraine and potentially Europe, and in the Caribbean, Central and South America is the establishment of an active sphere of influence for the use of raw materials, defense of all peoples in those regions, and what is going to be 3 spheres of control by the Super-Powers.

Reject it or oppose it and we are in for WWIII. Utilize it and WWIII may be avoided for a few more decades. The United States is not going to tolerate Chinese or Russian influences in our sphere of control, and they will not tolerate ours.

Think of the U.N. being the NCAA, and all FCS and lower tier FBS countries will do their own thing but within the sphere of the Upper tier. And this will happen for defense (protection of markets and resources) and to help the most powerful protect their resources. Responsibility through it will be upon the Superpower to enhance the standard of living throughout their sphere of influence and that is in their self-interest because doing so will eliminate much of any potential threat if the vast majority of people lead improved lives.

Do that in all 3 spheres of influence and the chance for peace exists, at least until one feels they have taken the technological advantage.

You can call me a pessimist or simply a realist but avoiding WWIII right now should be the globes priority. We all lose if it breaks out and the extant forces are there for it to ignite.

Trump doesn’t want Russian influence- unless it’s to help him get elected.

What you’re describing is mercantilism (which the heritage foundation subscribes to) which represents a significant regression in humanity, but tracks with the modern Republican Party.

yo, son, not only do ewe have mercantilism wrong as we now operate in the fiat (by itself makes it moot), but boy oh boy oh soy ewe are fk'n with the wrong mothertrucker ... JR will make ewe look sillier than that Bozo .gif...

please, keep pos(t)in'....

LOL! The most regressive thing to humanity is an ideology which takes from the productive to give to the nonproductive. When a leftist cites humanity, it is merely a sanitized way of saying the collective instead of the citizen. Citizens are individuals who share rights. Humanity is a formless identity which is spoken on behalf of by dictators and bureaucrats who want to amass power over the citizens.

There is no more regressive form of government than communism, whether Marxist or Maoist only varies by the slightest degree in which is touted as the oppressed group, the poor versus middle class and wealthy, or a particular racial group claiming special rights over others.

I would add that the destruction of private business and the perks purchased by corporate multi-nationals have brought another threat to the scene, a threat from a fascist use of government by the corporate class.

When we get through with the jackassery of the left it will be time to deal with the bullying of the corporate elite.

Bondi has to either start filing fraud cases by the dozens, or she has to go ... the NGOs have to go...

you know where I'm at with voter reform .... and it's a comin' lickety splickety ... even the Schmuckster is worried ... he knows what happens if'n...

Thune has to nuke the filibuster to pass the SAVE Act ... I can't stress how important that cog is to regain control of having an electorate with muscle ... toss in dominion and smartmatic (watch Maduro chirp), and '26 is gonna make '19 look like a day in the park...

it's everything we've been pining about over the years ... I can smell and almost taste it...

if '26 plays out like I think it will, it will offer a once-in-a-lifetime op for the right in congress to do their job properly ... #groverII has begun dealing with the pharmas ... soon it will be time to go after farming and the blackrocks due to how they're artificially inflating food costs/real estate ... reduction of 20 to 12 under a roof isn't going to be enough...

there are so many moving parts ... but those are the ones I focus upon coupled with real healthcare reform ... the red states are beginning to regain control of public education ... the blue can die on their dei vine for all I care...

one may ask, "how does this all tie into the VZ?" ... b/c it's time to tame this side of the hemisphere and let the other side deal with their bed and make it w/o our $$$ other than in trade and matched support when necessary ... fk the UN and fk NATO until they obey and pony up....

(01-03-2026 06:32 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  How much money do Democrat politicians in California and across the country receive from the cartels? How many NGO’s in the US are funded by the cartels? These are questions that need to be answered. Unfortunately we have a spineless useless unt as Attorney General.

If there is one common theme....communism, socialism, islamist, drug cartels, all come from the same political side.

(01-03-2026 08:08 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 07:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 07:03 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 06:51 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 05:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  None of it is nation building. All of it in the South China Sea and Southern Pacific, in the Ukraine and potentially Europe, and in the Caribbean, Central and South America is the establishment of an active sphere of influence for the use of raw materials, defense of all peoples in those regions, and what is going to be 3 spheres of control by the Super-Powers.

Reject it or oppose it and we are in for WWIII. Utilize it and WWIII may be avoided for a few more decades. The United States is not going to tolerate Chinese or Russian influences in our sphere of control, and they will not tolerate ours.

Think of the U.N. being the NCAA, and all FCS and lower tier FBS countries will do their own thing but within the sphere of the Upper tier. And this will happen for defense (protection of markets and resources) and to help the most powerful protect their resources. Responsibility through it will be upon the Superpower to enhance the standard of living throughout their sphere of influence and that is in their self-interest because doing so will eliminate much of any potential threat if the vast majority of people lead improved lives.

Do that in all 3 spheres of influence and the chance for peace exists, at least until one feels they have taken the technological advantage.

You can call me a pessimist or simply a realist but avoiding WWIII right now should be the globes priority. We all lose if it breaks out and the extant forces are there for it to ignite.

Trump doesn’t want Russian influence- unless it’s to help him get elected.

What you’re describing is mercantilism (which the heritage foundation subscribes to) which represents a significant regression in humanity, but tracks with the modern Republican Party.

yo, son, not only do ewe have mercantilism wrong as we now operate in the fiat (by itself makes it moot), but boy oh boy oh soy ewe are fk'n with the wrong mothertrucker ... JR will make ewe look sillier than that Bozo .gif...

please, keep pos(t)in'....

LOL! The most regressive thing to humanity is an ideology which takes from the productive to give to the nonproductive. When a leftist cites humanity, it is merely a sanitized way of saying the collective instead of the citizen. Citizens are individuals who share rights. Humanity is a formless identity which is spoken on behalf of by dictators and bureaucrats who want to amass power over the citizens.

There is no more regressive form of government than communism, whether Marxist or Maoist only varies by the slightest degree in which is touted as the oppressed group, the poor versus middle class and wealthy, or a particular racial group claiming special rights over others.

I would add that the destruction of private business and the perks purchased by corporate multi-nationals have brought another threat to the scene, a threat from a fascist use of government by the corporate class.

When we get through with the jackassery of the left it will be time to deal with the bullying of the corporate elite.

Bondi has to either start filing fraud cases by the dozens, or she has to go ... the NGOs have to go...

you know where I'm at with voter reform .... and it's a comin' lickety splickety ... even the Schmuckster is worried ... he knows what happens if'n...

Thune has to nuke the filibuster to pass the SAVE Act ... I can't stress how important that cog is to regain control of having an electorate with muscle ... toss in dominion and smartmatic (watch Maduro chirp), and '26 is gonna make '19 look like a day in the park...

it's everything we've been pining about over the years ... I can smell and almost taste it...

if '26 plays out like I think it will, it will offer a once-in-a-lifetime op for the right in congress to do their job properly ... #groverII has begun dealing with the pharmas ... soon it will be time to go after farming and the blackrocks due to how they're artificially inflating food costs/real estate ... reduction of 20 to 12 under a roof isn't going to be enough...

there are so many moving parts ... but those are the ones I focus upon coupled with real healthcare reform ... the red states are beginning to regain control of public education ... the blue can die on their dei vine for all I care...

one may ask, "how does this all tie into the VZ?" ... b/c it's time to tame this side of the hemisphere and let the other side deal with their bed and make it w/o our $$$ other than in trade and matched support when necessary ... fk the UN and fk NATO until they obey and pony up....

I don't disagree. The U.N. should not have lasted past Viet Nam. NATO has remained a freeloading Europe relying on Uncle Sam. The U.S. has no problems if Canada lines up with us, ditches the Trudeau types, and grows a pair, and Mexico is built up and the cartels eliminated. Control everything down to the Panama Canal and you make Eastern adversaries spend more on their Navies and defense and Western Adversaries do the same. Between South America and North America there aren't many resources we lack. But again, to make it all work we have to raise the standard of living for all from Canada to Chile and Argentina.

(01-03-2026 07:11 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 07:03 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 06:51 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 05:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 05:26 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Drugs aside, I'm against nation building, regardless of who is President.

Should we align more with our Central and South American brethren over Europe? Yes

Should we turn them into future Americans? Absolutely not.

None of it is nation building. All of it in the South China Sea and Southern Pacific, in the Ukraine and potentially Europe, and in the Caribbean, Central and South America is the establishment of an active sphere of influence for the use of raw materials, defense of all peoples in those regions, and what is going to be 3 spheres of control by the Super-Powers.

Reject it or oppose it and we are in for WWIII. Utilize it and WWIII may be avoided for a few more decades. The United States is not going to tolerate Chinese or Russian influences in our sphere of control, and they will not tolerate ours.

Think of the U.N. being the NCAA, and all FCS and lower tier FBS countries will do their own thing but within the sphere of the Upper tier. And this will happen for defense (protection of markets and resources) and to help the most powerful protect their resources. Responsibility through it will be upon the Superpower to enhance the standard of living throughout their sphere of influence and that is in their self-interest because doing so will eliminate much of any potential threat if the vast majority of people lead improved lives.

Do that in all 3 spheres of influence and the chance for peace exists, at least until one feels they have taken the technological advantage.

You can call me a pessimist or simply a realist but avoiding WWIII right now should be the globes priority. We all lose if it breaks out and the extant forces are there for it to ignite.

Trump doesn’t want Russian influence- unless it’s to help him get elected.

What you’re describing is mercantilism (which the heritage foundation subscribes to) which represents a significant regression in humanity, but tracks with the modern Republican Party.

yo, son, not only do ewe have mercantilism wrong as we now operate in the fiat (by itself makes it moot), but boy oh boy oh soy ewe are fk'n with the wrong mothertrucker ... JR will make ewe look sillier than that Bozo .gif...

please, keep pos(t)in'....

Gold and silver were for keeping score, We have other vehicles now. The concepts are the same.

lmmfao ... how is the fiat "finite" ... better to 'build with 'muh fraud', eh?! ... remind me what the donks offer as a solution in "concept" ... #popcornHeaven

w/o a tangible asset that measures, mercantilism never exists ... only tech allows the fiat in today's version ... and she's a fragile li'l biatch when debt outruns the banks...

ewe puzzy hats ain' seen shite, yet...

(01-03-2026 08:31 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 07:11 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 07:03 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 06:51 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 05:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  None of it is nation building. All of it in the South China Sea and Southern Pacific, in the Ukraine and potentially Europe, and in the Caribbean, Central and South America is the establishment of an active sphere of influence for the use of raw materials, defense of all peoples in those regions, and what is going to be 3 spheres of control by the Super-Powers.

Reject it or oppose it and we are in for WWIII. Utilize it and WWIII may be avoided for a few more decades. The United States is not going to tolerate Chinese or Russian influences in our sphere of control, and they will not tolerate ours.

Think of the U.N. being the NCAA, and all FCS and lower tier FBS countries will do their own thing but within the sphere of the Upper tier. And this will happen for defense (protection of markets and resources) and to help the most powerful protect their resources. Responsibility through it will be upon the Superpower to enhance the standard of living throughout their sphere of influence and that is in their self-interest because doing so will eliminate much of any potential threat if the vast majority of people lead improved lives.

Do that in all 3 spheres of influence and the chance for peace exists, at least until one feels they have taken the technological advantage.

You can call me a pessimist or simply a realist but avoiding WWIII right now should be the globes priority. We all lose if it breaks out and the extant forces are there for it to ignite.

Trump doesn’t want Russian influence- unless it’s to help him get elected.

What you’re describing is mercantilism (which the heritage foundation subscribes to) which represents a significant regression in humanity, but tracks with the modern Republican Party.

yo, son, not only do ewe have mercantilism wrong as we now operate in the fiat (by itself makes it moot), but boy oh boy oh soy ewe are fk'n with the wrong mothertrucker ... JR will make ewe look sillier than that Bozo .gif...

please, keep pos(t)in'....

Gold and silver were for keeping score, We have other vehicles now. The concepts are the same.

lmmfao ... how is the fiat "finite" ... better to 'build with 'muh fraud', eh?! ... remind me what the donks offer as a solution in "concept" ... #popcornHeaven

w/o a tangible asset that measures, mercantilism never exists ... only tech allows the fiat in today's version ... and she's a fragile li'l biatch when debt outruns the banks...

ewe puzzy hats ain' seen shite, yet...

I see he doesn't understand at all. Digital is far worse than fiat. It lacks transparency so that one nation can not gauge the value of another nation's currency which bogs down trade.

Gold and Silver are up because the central banks are buying snapping it up and they are doing that to try to shore up the confidence in their fiat currencies which risk becoming hyperinflationary because they can't be accurately valued and have no intrinsic or inherent value of their own. The great experiment away from backed currency whether with an actual item of worth like gold, or a representation of stability provided by something like a nation's GDP, simply have spun out of control since the inception of digital currency.

The monetary system is freed to move at break neck speed, but nobody is finding the value in it. Crypto was simply another attempt to provide something of value but it has inherent flaws as well in as much as those who buy in late stand to lose a lot as they would with any Ponzi scheme. And metal payments are even suspect as China found out about a decade and a little more ago when they received a large payment in Gold, which was assayed once in the U.S., once in Germany, and then the Bank of England only to arrive in China as gilded Tungston. Each nation had plausible deniability.

Why is digital currency opaque? Because the accounting for how much of a nations debt is lost. Currency production is monitored and inventoried. Digital currency is just a computer marker saying the wealth exists. Therefore, how much digital wealth any nation claims really just amplifies the mystery surrounding their actual debt in a way that makes Weimar's printing of large and larger notes look amateurish by comparison.

Gold has hovered around all time highs for a reason. People trust it. Silver the same and has shattered its all time high. Hell even an old copper penny is almost worth 5 cents. There are 150 copper pennies in a pound of copper. Copper sells in trade 100lbs at the time. In 1982 when we started making pennies out of zinc copper pennies fluctuated between 2 cents to 2.5 cents in copper value. That's doubled in 40 years.

There is a move back to precious metals by the banks to regain a stable value for their currency. The banks are buying it up because they fear not being the main store of precious metal and having someone or some other entity establish its worth and rate of trade.

And therein resides yet another reason global trade is breaking down, hemispheric approaches to trade may gain traction, and why a World War is likelier than it should be.

Fiat currency is only backed by military say so. Might makes right and makes for the World Reserve Currency's acceptance. Thank you WWII for making the dollar strong! China wants to supplant the dollar as WRC. Them's fighting words.

Everyone has to go their corner and behave while the world tries to figure this out.

Good luck to us all! "Avast and fairwell to ye fair Spanish ladies!"

Retard Momdanhi called Trump to “voice his concern” and it made such an impression that Maduro is sitting in jail in Commie Mamdonhi’s city as we speak. This clown will be such a gift to republicans

(01-03-2026 09:24 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Retard Momdanhi called Trump to “voice his concern” and it made such an impression that Maduro is sitting in jail in Commie Mamdonhi’s city as we speak. This clown will be such a gift to republicans

Or better yet the democrats of NY sees it and moves more to the center because a republican is not winning in NYC. But you better hope whatever he does is a 100% complete failure...

if not a lot of peoples worse nightmare is just getting started

(01-03-2026 07:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 07:03 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 06:51 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 05:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 05:26 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Drugs aside, I'm against nation building, regardless of who is President.

Should we align more with our Central and South American brethren over Europe? Yes

Should we turn them into future Americans? Absolutely not.

None of it is nation building. All of it in the South China Sea and Southern Pacific, in the Ukraine and potentially Europe, and in the Caribbean, Central and South America is the establishment of an active sphere of influence for the use of raw materials, defense of all peoples in those regions, and what is going to be 3 spheres of control by the Super-Powers.

Reject it or oppose it and we are in for WWIII. Utilize it and WWIII may be avoided for a few more decades. The United States is not going to tolerate Chinese or Russian influences in our sphere of control, and they will not tolerate ours.

Think of the U.N. being the NCAA, and all FCS and lower tier FBS countries will do their own thing but within the sphere of the Upper tier. And this will happen for defense (protection of markets and resources) and to help the most powerful protect their resources. Responsibility through it will be upon the Superpower to enhance the standard of living throughout their sphere of influence and that is in their self-interest because doing so will eliminate much of any potential threat if the vast majority of people lead improved lives.

Do that in all 3 spheres of influence and the chance for peace exists, at least until one feels they have taken the technological advantage.

You can call me a pessimist or simply a realist but avoiding WWIII right now should be the globes priority. We all lose if it breaks out and the extant forces are there for it to ignite.

Trump doesn’t want Russian influence- unless it’s to help him get elected.

What you’re describing is mercantilism (which the heritage foundation subscribes to) which represents a significant regression in humanity, but tracks with the modern Republican Party.

yo, son, not only do ewe have mercantilism wrong as we now operate in the fiat (by itself makes it moot), but boy oh boy oh soy ewe are fk'n with the wrong mothertrucker ... JR will make ewe look sillier than that Bozo .gif...

please, keep pos(t)in'....

LOL! The most regressive thing to humanity is an ideology which takes from the productive to give to the nonproductive. When a leftist cites humanity, it is merely a sanitized way of saying the collective instead of the citizen. Citizens are individuals who share rights. Humanity is a formless identity which is spoken on behalf of by dictators and bureaucrats who want to amass power over the citizens.

There is no more regressive form of government than communism, whether Marxist or Maoist only varies by the slightest degree in which is touted as the oppressed group, the poor versus middle class and wealthy, or a particular racial group claiming special rights over others.

I would add that the destruction of private business and the perks purchased by corporate multi-nationals have brought another threat to the scene, a threat from a fascist use of government by the corporate class.

When we get through with the jackassery of the left it will be time to deal with the bullying of the corporate elite.

It’s really a shame JR, you’re almost there. Of course you are weakening your position by building up several straw men that nobody advocates here like Marxism and Maoism. I’ll put it in your parlance: we’re regressing for ~1 billion individuals in our “sphere”

The problem with your worldview is that you’re half correctly diagnosing the problem (corpos) but you’re attributing it to the wrong group. Of course you are going to have to come to grips with the fact that the corporate class owns Trump too and is calling the shots here via a vis Venezuela. Im willing to bet the us pays for some infrastructure projects in Venezuela and then tirns it over to the oil companies, socialize the costs privatize the profits baby! The rest of your post is just typical class warfare bs the looting class parrots out to people so they can continue to loot the country.

(01-03-2026 09:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 08:31 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 07:11 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 07:03 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 06:51 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  Trump doesn’t want Russian influence- unless it’s to help him get elected.

What you’re describing is mercantilism (which the heritage foundation subscribes to) which represents a significant regression in humanity, but tracks with the modern Republican Party.

yo, son, not only do ewe have mercantilism wrong as we now operate in the fiat (by itself makes it moot), but boy oh boy oh soy ewe are fk'n with the wrong mothertrucker ... JR will make ewe look sillier than that Bozo .gif...

please, keep pos(t)in'....

Gold and silver were for keeping score, We have other vehicles now. The concepts are the same.

lmmfao ... how is the fiat "finite" ... better to 'build with 'muh fraud', eh?! ... remind me what the donks offer as a solution in "concept" ... #popcornHeaven

w/o a tangible asset that measures, mercantilism never exists ... only tech allows the fiat in today's version ... and she's a fragile li'l biatch when debt outruns the banks...

ewe puzzy hats ain' seen shite, yet...

I see he doesn't understand at all. Digital is far worse than fiat. It lacks transparency so that one nation can not gauge the value of another nation's currency which bogs down trade.

Gold and Silver are up because the central banks are buying snapping it up and they are doing that to try to shore up the confidence in their fiat currencies which risk becoming hyperinflationary because they can't be accurately valued and have no intrinsic or inherent value of their own. The great experiment away from backed currency whether with an actual item of worth like gold, or a representation of stability provided by something like a nation's GDP, simply have spun out of control since the inception of digital currency.

The monetary system is freed to move at break neck speed, but nobody is finding the value in it. Crypto was simply another attempt to provide something of value but it has inherent flaws as well in as much as those who buy in late stand to lose a lot as they would with any Ponzi scheme. And metal payments are even suspect as China found out about a decade and a little more ago when they received a large payment in Gold, which was assayed once in the U.S., once in Germany, and then the Bank of England only to arrive in China as gilded Tungston. Each nation had plausible deniability.

Why is digital currency opaque? Because the accounting for how much of a nations debt is lost. Currency production is monitored and inventoried. Digital currency is just a computer marker saying the wealth exists. Therefore, how much digital wealth any nation claims really just amplifies the mystery surrounding their actual debt in a way that makes Weimar's printing of large and larger notes look amateurish by comparison.

Gold has hovered around all time highs for a reason. People trust it. Silver the same and has shattered its all time high. Hell even an old copper penny is almost worth 5 cents. There are 150 copper pennies in a pound of copper. Copper sells in trade 100lbs at the time. In 1982 when we started making pennies out of zinc copper pennies fluctuated between 2 cents to 2.5 cents in copper value. That's doubled in 40 years.

There is a move back to precious metals by the banks to regain a stable value for their currency. The banks are buying it up because they fear not being the main store of precious metal and having someone or some other entity establish its worth and rate of trade.

And therein resides yet another reason global trade is breaking down, hemispheric approaches to trade may gain traction, and why a World War is likelier than it should be.

Fiat currency is only backed by military say so. Might makes right and makes for the World Reserve Currency's acceptance. Thank you WWII for making the dollar strong! China wants to supplant the dollar as WRC. Them's fighting words.

Everyone has to go their corner and behave while the world tries to figure this out.

Good luck to us all! "Avast and fairwell to ye fair Spanish ladies!"

No one (except for Trump et al) is advocating for crypto. I’m certainly not. Trumps not forcing regime change in Venezuela for crypto-or fiat. He’s already said why he’s doing it (which I think he’s doing it for multiple reasons.

As to W filled Au bars. That was the Russian special back in the day. There was a lot of stuff coming out of the USSR during the looting stage that was W filled it’s almost exactly the same density as gold. There were guys who essentially had to bring grinders to deals (and sweep up the fines)

Just to help clarify your thoughts on metal trading- we don’t trade copper in 150# lots. We’d be drowning in paperwork if that was the case as the world consumes tens of millions of tons of copper per year. It’s traded on 3 major exchanges- COMEX (US) 25,000# lots, LME (UK) 25MT lots, SHFE(China) 5MT lots

(01-03-2026 09:56 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 07:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 07:03 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 06:51 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 05:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  None of it is nation building. All of it in the South China Sea and Southern Pacific, in the Ukraine and potentially Europe, and in the Caribbean, Central and South America is the establishment of an active sphere of influence for the use of raw materials, defense of all peoples in those regions, and what is going to be 3 spheres of control by the Super-Powers.

Reject it or oppose it and we are in for WWIII. Utilize it and WWIII may be avoided for a few more decades. The United States is not going to tolerate Chinese or Russian influences in our sphere of control, and they will not tolerate ours.

Think of the U.N. being the NCAA, and all FCS and lower tier FBS countries will do their own thing but within the sphere of the Upper tier. And this will happen for defense (protection of markets and resources) and to help the most powerful protect their resources. Responsibility through it will be upon the Superpower to enhance the standard of living throughout their sphere of influence and that is in their self-interest because doing so will eliminate much of any potential threat if the vast majority of people lead improved lives.

Do that in all 3 spheres of influence and the chance for peace exists, at least until one feels they have taken the technological advantage.

You can call me a pessimist or simply a realist but avoiding WWIII right now should be the globes priority. We all lose if it breaks out and the extant forces are there for it to ignite.

Trump doesn’t want Russian influence- unless it’s to help him get elected.

What you’re describing is mercantilism (which the heritage foundation subscribes to) which represents a significant regression in humanity, but tracks with the modern Republican Party.

yo, son, not only do ewe have mercantilism wrong as we now operate in the fiat (by itself makes it moot), but boy oh boy oh soy ewe are fk'n with the wrong mothertrucker ... JR will make ewe look sillier than that Bozo .gif...

please, keep pos(t)in'....

LOL! The most regressive thing to humanity is an ideology which takes from the productive to give to the nonproductive. When a leftist cites humanity, it is merely a sanitized way of saying the collective instead of the citizen. Citizens are individuals who share rights. Humanity is a formless identity which is spoken on behalf of by dictators and bureaucrats who want to amass power over the citizens.

There is no more regressive form of government than communism, whether Marxist or Maoist only varies by the slightest degree in which is touted as the oppressed group, the poor versus middle class and wealthy, or a particular racial group claiming special rights over others.

I would add that the destruction of private business and the perks purchased by corporate multi-nationals have brought another threat to the scene, a threat from a fascist use of government by the corporate class.

When we get through with the jackassery of the left it will be time to deal with the bullying of the corporate elite.

It’s really a shame JR, you’re almost there. Of course you are weakening your position by building up several straw men that nobody advocates here like Marxism and Maoism. I’ll put it in your parlance: we’re regressing for ~1 billion individuals in our “sphere”

The problem with your worldview is that you’re half correctly diagnosing the problem (corpos) but you’re attributing it to the wrong group. Of course you are going to have to come to grips with the fact that the corporate class owns Trump too and is calling the shots here via a vis Venezuela. Im willing to bet the us pays for some infrastructure projects in Venezuela and then tirns it over to the oil companies, socialize the costs privatize the profits baby! The rest of your post is just typical class warfare bs the looting class parrots out to people so they can continue to loot the country.

The fog of hatred really distorts one’s vision. Explain how Trump’s tariffs have enriched the corporate elite at the expense of the treasury of the country? Explain how his assault on HB-1 visas and cheap illegal labor has benefitted corporations at the expense of American workers. But somehow you view this move as Trump being a puppet for corporations and willing to expend US taxpayer money for corporate profit?

Venezuela stole billions in assets from American companies. We let that go for decades. Trump looks at the most simple answer for a problem. You will construe that comment as yeah, simple is his limit, but it’s really the most direct path. What will happen is he will return the oil company facilities to them. They will pay for necessary infrastructure upgrades. This will increase the oil supply for us, which will reduce prices. A percentage of profits, most likely the same structure that existed before seizure, the framework that provided a great standard of living for Venezuelans, will be reestablished. He will also require the oil companies to give the US first dibs on production, which means he can cut off shipments to China as a negotiating tool. This also is a roadblock to China’s effort to increase South American influence.

What the left hasn’t figured out about Trump is that he is a man that is solely focused on his legacy and redemption at this point. He’s not unlike Carnegie toward the end of his life, trying desperately to redeem himself in the eyes of God. His vision for doing that will drive everything he does and being a puppet to corporate America isn’t part of that.

You can argue the validity of his vision for that, but that really doesn’t matter because you won’t change his thought process. He believes restoring America is the number one job. He believes ending wars and reducing crime is #2. Everything flows through only those two prisms.

(01-03-2026 09:56 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 07:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 07:03 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 06:51 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 05:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  None of it is nation building. All of it in the South China Sea and Southern Pacific, in the Ukraine and potentially Europe, and in the Caribbean, Central and South America is the establishment of an active sphere of influence for the use of raw materials, defense of all peoples in those regions, and what is going to be 3 spheres of control by the Super-Powers.

Reject it or oppose it and we are in for WWIII. Utilize it and WWIII may be avoided for a few more decades. The United States is not going to tolerate Chinese or Russian influences in our sphere of control, and they will not tolerate ours.

Think of the U.N. being the NCAA, and all FCS and lower tier FBS countries will do their own thing but within the sphere of the Upper tier. And this will happen for defense (protection of markets and resources) and to help the most powerful protect their resources. Responsibility through it will be upon the Superpower to enhance the standard of living throughout their sphere of influence and that is in their self-interest because doing so will eliminate much of any potential threat if the vast majority of people lead improved lives.

Do that in all 3 spheres of influence and the chance for peace exists, at least until one feels they have taken the technological advantage.

You can call me a pessimist or simply a realist but avoiding WWIII right now should be the globes priority. We all lose if it breaks out and the extant forces are there for it to ignite.

Trump doesn’t want Russian influence- unless it’s to help him get elected.

What you’re describing is mercantilism (which the heritage foundation subscribes to) which represents a significant regression in humanity, but tracks with the modern Republican Party.

yo, son, not only do ewe have mercantilism wrong as we now operate in the fiat (by itself makes it moot), but boy oh boy oh soy ewe are fk'n with the wrong mothertrucker ... JR will make ewe look sillier than that Bozo .gif...

please, keep pos(t)in'....

LOL! The most regressive thing to humanity is an ideology which takes from the productive to give to the nonproductive. When a leftist cites humanity, it is merely a sanitized way of saying the collective instead of the citizen. Citizens are individuals who share rights. Humanity is a formless identity which is spoken on behalf of by dictators and bureaucrats who want to amass power over the citizens.

There is no more regressive form of government than communism, whether Marxist or Maoist only varies by the slightest degree in which is touted as the oppressed group, the poor versus middle class and wealthy, or a particular racial group claiming special rights over others.

I would add that the destruction of private business and the perks purchased by corporate multi-nationals have brought another threat to the scene, a threat from a fascist use of government by the corporate class.

When we get through with the jackassery of the left it will be time to deal with the bullying of the corporate elite.

It’s really a shame JR, you’re almost there. Of course you are weakening your position by building up several straw men that nobody advocates here like Marxism and Maoism. I’ll put it in your parlance: we’re regressing for ~1 billion individuals in our “sphere”

The problem with your worldview is that you’re half correctly diagnosing the problem (corpos) but you’re attributing it to the wrong group. Of course you are going to have to come to grips with the fact that the corporate class owns Trump too and is calling the shots here via a vis Venezuela. Im willing to bet the us pays for some infrastructure projects in Venezuela and then tirns it over to the oil companies, socialize the costs privatize the profits baby! The rest of your post is just typical class warfare bs the looting class parrots out to people so they can continue to loot the country.

CEOs don't own CEOs. Billionaires don't own other Billionaires. The shame here is the load of crap you've been sold as "education". But I see oodles of it today. Why do you think H.W. Bush pushed for the grandfathering of the two main political parties on the ballot? Perot is why. H.W. Bush feared Ross Perot. Perot got his people out of Iran and embarrassed the CIA while doing it. The DEMs hate Trump because they can't buy him, or control him, and he hates what today's Democratic party stands for. He didn't change. The Democratic Party moved way left.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/03/politics/...-venezuela



Guys I have some bad news, we have to return both of them because CNN said the whole operation wasn’t legal.

(01-03-2026 11:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 09:56 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 07:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 07:03 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 06:51 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  Trump doesn’t want Russian influence- unless it’s to help him get elected.

What you’re describing is mercantilism (which the heritage foundation subscribes to) which represents a significant regression in humanity, but tracks with the modern Republican Party.

yo, son, not only do ewe have mercantilism wrong as we now operate in the fiat (by itself makes it moot), but boy oh boy oh soy ewe are fk'n with the wrong mothertrucker ... JR will make ewe look sillier than that Bozo .gif...

please, keep pos(t)in'....

LOL! The most regressive thing to humanity is an ideology which takes from the productive to give to the nonproductive. When a leftist cites humanity, it is merely a sanitized way of saying the collective instead of the citizen. Citizens are individuals who share rights. Humanity is a formless identity which is spoken on behalf of by dictators and bureaucrats who want to amass power over the citizens.

There is no more regressive form of government than communism, whether Marxist or Maoist only varies by the slightest degree in which is touted as the oppressed group, the poor versus middle class and wealthy, or a particular racial group claiming special rights over others.

I would add that the destruction of private business and the perks purchased by corporate multi-nationals have brought another threat to the scene, a threat from a fascist use of government by the corporate class.

When we get through with the jackassery of the left it will be time to deal with the bullying of the corporate elite.

It’s really a shame JR, you’re almost there. Of course you are weakening your position by building up several straw men that nobody advocates here like Marxism and Maoism. I’ll put it in your parlance: we’re regressing for ~1 billion individuals in our “sphere”

The problem with your worldview is that you’re half correctly diagnosing the problem (corpos) but you’re attributing it to the wrong group. Of course you are going to have to come to grips with the fact that the corporate class owns Trump too and is calling the shots here via a vis Venezuela. Im willing to bet the us pays for some infrastructure projects in Venezuela and then tirns it over to the oil companies, socialize the costs privatize the profits baby! The rest of your post is just typical class warfare bs the looting class parrots out to people so they can continue to loot the country.

CEOs don't own CEOs. Billionaires don't own other Billionaires. The shame here is the load of crap you've been sold as "education". But I see oodles of it today. Why do you think H.W. Bush pushed for the grandfathering of the two main political parties on the ballot? Perot is why. H.W. Bush feared Ross Perot. Perot got his people out of Iran and embarrassed the CIA while doing it. The DEMs hate Trump because they can't buy him, or control him, and he hates what today's Democratic party stands for. He didn't change. The Democratic Party moved way left.

You have a really simplistic view of things and you are very wrong. Lots of CEOs are owned and many billionaires are too. The idea that all these guys are FYIV is fantasy.Not sure if you’ve never been in the corporate world or just buy into the carefully constructed media portrayals, but it’s laughable.

As for why the dems hate Trump- he gets lots of dumb people to vote for him, it’s why he loves the poorly educated.

I’ll never stop laughing at the Trump can’t be bought bit of propaganda. It’s definitely the funniest fantasy you guys have about dear leader. Either that or that general bone spur is some alpha warrior who just has to wear adult diapers.

(01-03-2026 11:25 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 11:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 09:56 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 07:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 07:03 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  yo, son, not only do ewe have mercantilism wrong as we now operate in the fiat (by itself makes it moot), but boy oh boy oh soy ewe are fk'n with the wrong mothertrucker ... JR will make ewe look sillier than that Bozo .gif...

please, keep pos(t)in'....

LOL! The most regressive thing to humanity is an ideology which takes from the productive to give to the nonproductive. When a leftist cites humanity, it is merely a sanitized way of saying the collective instead of the citizen. Citizens are individuals who share rights. Humanity is a formless identity which is spoken on behalf of by dictators and bureaucrats who want to amass power over the citizens.

There is no more regressive form of government than communism, whether Marxist or Maoist only varies by the slightest degree in which is touted as the oppressed group, the poor versus middle class and wealthy, or a particular racial group claiming special rights over others.

I would add that the destruction of private business and the perks purchased by corporate multi-nationals have brought another threat to the scene, a threat from a fascist use of government by the corporate class.

When we get through with the jackassery of the left it will be time to deal with the bullying of the corporate elite.

It’s really a shame JR, you’re almost there. Of course you are weakening your position by building up several straw men that nobody advocates here like Marxism and Maoism. I’ll put it in your parlance: we’re regressing for ~1 billion individuals in our “sphere”

The problem with your worldview is that you’re half correctly diagnosing the problem (corpos) but you’re attributing it to the wrong group. Of course you are going to have to come to grips with the fact that the corporate class owns Trump too and is calling the shots here via a vis Venezuela. Im willing to bet the us pays for some infrastructure projects in Venezuela and then tirns it over to the oil companies, socialize the costs privatize the profits baby! The rest of your post is just typical class warfare bs the looting class parrots out to people so they can continue to loot the country.

CEOs don't own CEOs. Billionaires don't own other Billionaires. The shame here is the load of crap you've been sold as "education". But I see oodles of it today. Why do you think H.W. Bush pushed for the grandfathering of the two main political parties on the ballot? Perot is why. H.W. Bush feared Ross Perot. Perot got his people out of Iran and embarrassed the CIA while doing it. The DEMs hate Trump because they can't buy him, or control him, and he hates what today's Democratic party stands for. He didn't change. The Democratic Party moved way left.

You have a really simplistic view of things and you are very wrong. Lots of CEOs are owned and many billionaires are too. The idea that all these guys are FYIV is fantasy.Not sure if you’ve never been in the corporate world or just buy into the carefully constructed media portrayals, but it’s laughable.

As for why the dems hate Trump- he gets lots of dumb people to vote for him, it’s why he loves the poorly educated.

I’ll never stop laughing at the Trump can’t be bought bit of propaganda. It’s definitely the funniest fantasy you guys have about dear leader. Either that or that general bone spur is some alpha warrior who just has to wear adult diapers.

Why is it when the conversation starts getting fundamentally more difficult you tend to just jump to sophomoric names and broad, unsupportable statements? Give us some examples of billionaires owning billionaires, how that ownership is evidenced, how your conclusion was reached. If you’ve done the work, show it.

(01-03-2026 03:23 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 01:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  I think a lot of Trump’s supporters are isolationists and will be very unhappy.

This board is blindly following him. It’s great that Maduro is gone but I fear our price. See Iraq. All of you critique Bush as an idiot for Iraq and Afghanistan but love Trump getting us into a bigger quagmire than Iraq. You are scared of selling weapons to Ukraine but want us to run Venezuela? This is NOT Panama. Maduro has a lot of people who love him and his movement.

Over the last 18 months.....

your thoughts process caught up with your age and like that is on the decline.

I support Trump the man, more than some of the the policies of the right. I think Trump, the man, would government even more to the center if not for the right. I accept the man for who he is, dont want him to change to suit my every thought like some idiots do. Every body on this board at this age is....WHO WE ARE. You not changing why expect that from someone who's almost 80?

President Trump is EXACTLY what this country needed at this time. I say that even if I believe somethings he does is a little too far right. The man has to give the crazies on that side something.

Personally I believe the biggest and most deadly drug overlords are the owners of AB and other companies like that. But under our law they are legal.

Not for one second do I think President "Big balls" Trump, took this action just for the drugs. I personally dont care if there are more to this than drugs. To put this in the same context of Bush starting a war that lasted 20 years.....

IS AS STUPID AS ANYTHING THOSE FAR LEFT IDIOTS SAY

President Bush very well could be the worse President of our lifetime when you take in what actually took under him. Then add in the effect of what took place because of his leadership......there is no President Obama, without Bush. Carters F'ups were dealt with in 4 short years. Most of Bidens will be also, maybe not the border but it will get there. Bush's F'ups we are still dealing with today and will be for a very long time.

I'm not a Republican. I;m not a Democrat.....I'm an America and at this time in history, I fully support Donald J. Trump, even if I disagree with him at times....

I, like most people that think outside of 'politics' understand his was not just about drugs. This was about oil, it was about sending a message to other countries around us. This was about China and this was about Russia.

Drugs gave this President the opening and President Trump took that and kicked it in. Most other President would not have had the balls to do that because of politics. That's why I like this man, suport this man....even if I disagree with some of his too far right politics

You’re a hypocrite. You hate Bush and nation building in Iraq but love Trump promising to run Venezuela and MVGA.

This Venezuela action is not something I expected from him. He has been very much focusing on the USA and trying to keep us from getting bogged down.

(01-03-2026 08:08 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 07:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 07:03 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 06:51 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 05:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  None of it is nation building. All of it in the South China Sea and Southern Pacific, in the Ukraine and potentially Europe, and in the Caribbean, Central and South America is the establishment of an active sphere of influence for the use of raw materials, defense of all peoples in those regions, and what is going to be 3 spheres of control by the Super-Powers.

Reject it or oppose it and we are in for WWIII. Utilize it and WWIII may be avoided for a few more decades. The United States is not going to tolerate Chinese or Russian influences in our sphere of control, and they will not tolerate ours.

Think of the U.N. being the NCAA, and all FCS and lower tier FBS countries will do their own thing but within the sphere of the Upper tier. And this will happen for defense (protection of markets and resources) and to help the most powerful protect their resources. Responsibility through it will be upon the Superpower to enhance the standard of living throughout their sphere of influence and that is in their self-interest because doing so will eliminate much of any potential threat if the vast majority of people lead improved lives.

Do that in all 3 spheres of influence and the chance for peace exists, at least until one feels they have taken the technological advantage.

You can call me a pessimist or simply a realist but avoiding WWIII right now should be the globes priority. We all lose if it breaks out and the extant forces are there for it to ignite.

Trump doesn’t want Russian influence- unless it’s to help him get elected.

What you’re describing is mercantilism (which the heritage foundation subscribes to) which represents a significant regression in humanity, but tracks with the modern Republican Party.

yo, son, not only do ewe have mercantilism wrong as we now operate in the fiat (by itself makes it moot), but boy oh boy oh soy ewe are fk'n with the wrong mothertrucker ... JR will make ewe look sillier than that Bozo .gif...

please, keep pos(t)in'....

LOL! The most regressive thing to humanity is an ideology which takes from the productive to give to the nonproductive. When a leftist cites humanity, it is merely a sanitized way of saying the collective instead of the citizen. Citizens are individuals who share rights. Humanity is a formless identity which is spoken on behalf of by dictators and bureaucrats who want to amass power over the citizens.

There is no more regressive form of government than communism, whether Marxist or Maoist only varies by the slightest degree in which is touted as the oppressed group, the poor versus middle class and wealthy, or a particular racial group claiming special rights over others.

I would add that the destruction of private business and the perks purchased by corporate multi-nationals have brought another threat to the scene, a threat from a fascist use of government by the corporate class.

When we get through with the jackassery of the left it will be time to deal with the bullying of the corporate elite.

Bondi has to either start filing fraud cases by the dozens, or she has to go ... the NGOs have to go...

you know where I'm at with voter reform .... and it's a comin' lickety splickety ... even the Schmuckster is worried ... he knows what happens if'n...

Thune has to nuke the filibuster to pass the SAVE Act ... I can't stress how important that cog is to regain control of having an electorate with muscle ... toss in dominion and smartmatic (watch Maduro chirp), and '26 is gonna make '19 look like a day in the park...

it's everything we've been pining about over the years ... I can smell and almost taste it...

if '26 plays out like I think it will, it will offer a once-in-a-lifetime op for the right in congress to do their job properly ... #groverII has begun dealing with the pharmas ... soon it will be time to go after farming and the blackrocks due to how they're artificially inflating food costs/real estate ... reduction of 20 to 12 under a roof isn't going to be enough...

there are so many moving parts ... but those are the ones I focus upon coupled with real healthcare reform ... the red states are beginning to regain control of public education ... the blue can die on their dei vine for all I care...

one may ask, "how does this all tie into the VZ?" ... b/c it's time to tame this side of the hemisphere and let the other side deal with their bed and make it w/o our $$$ other than in trade and matched support when necessary ... fk the UN and fk NATO until they obey and pony up....

I certainly agree about Bondi generating indictments. You need consequences. And the filibuster was designed for a different breed of senator.

(01-03-2026 11:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 03:23 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-03-2026 01:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  I think a lot of Trump’s supporters are isolationists and will be very unhappy.

This board is blindly following him. It’s great that Maduro is gone but I fear our price. See Iraq. All of you critique Bush as an idiot for Iraq and Afghanistan but love Trump getting us into a bigger quagmire than Iraq. You are scared of selling weapons to Ukraine but want us to run Venezuela? This is NOT Panama. Maduro has a lot of people who love him and his movement.

Over the last 18 months.....

your thoughts process caught up with your age and like that is on the decline.

I support Trump the man, more than some of the the policies of the right. I think Trump, the man, would government even more to the center if not for the right. I accept the man for who he is, dont want him to change to suit my every thought like some idiots do. Every body on this board at this age is....WHO WE ARE. You not changing why expect that from someone who's almost 80?

President Trump is EXACTLY what this country needed at this time. I say that even if I believe somethings he does is a little too far right. The man has to give the crazies on that side something.

Personally I believe the biggest and most deadly drug overlords are the owners of AB and other companies like that. But under our law they are legal.

Not for one second do I think President "Big balls" Trump, took this action just for the drugs. I personally dont care if there are more to this than drugs. To put this in the same context of Bush starting a war that lasted 20 years.....

IS AS STUPID AS ANYTHING THOSE FAR LEFT IDIOTS SAY

President Bush very well could be the worse President of our lifetime when you take in what actually took under him. Then add in the effect of what took place because of his leadership......there is no President Obama, without Bush. Carters F'ups were dealt with in 4 short years. Most of Bidens will be also, maybe not the border but it will get there. Bush's F'ups we are still dealing with today and will be for a very long time.

I'm not a Republican. I;m not a Democrat.....I'm an America and at this time in history, I fully support Donald J. Trump, even if I disagree with him at times....

I, like most people that think outside of 'politics' understand his was not just about drugs. This was about oil, it was about sending a message to other countries around us. This was about China and this was about Russia.

Drugs gave this President the opening and President Trump took that and kicked it in. Most other President would not have had the balls to do that because of politics. That's why I like this man, suport this man....even if I disagree with some of his too far right politics

You’re a hypocrite. You hate Bush and nation building in Iraq but love Trump promising to run Venezuela and MVGA.

This Venezuela action is not something I expected from him. He has been very much focusing on the USA and trying to keep us from getting bogged down.

If you don’t see the many ways this action is US focused, I would say you are simply not slowing down to think about it.

1. Drugs - the upfront, but least meaningful reason. I guess we could spend billions having a fleet sitting off the coast for years, blowing up boats and shooting down planes, but it would be back to business as usual if we ever left. This is a far more permanent solution to drug shipments through Venezuela.

2. Increase financial stability and national security through increased energy flow (oil) in the hemisphere, still a secondary reason, but lower energy costs and transportation costs in the US. Could totally end any dependence on ME oil which China could stop during conflict.

3. Removal of a key ally of our 3’biggest adversaries that was sitting in our backyard, more of a primary reason.

4. A clear message to China that they can play their belt and road BS in Africa, but not in our hemisphere, primary reason

5. A direct message to other South American and central American governments that we are going to play on the same team, primary reason.

As far as bogged down, not his style. I think most will be amazed how quick this cycles out and all we’ll hear is occasional progress updates that will be overwhelming positive.

the full-length version...

Ball boy trying to educate JR. That's rich.