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RE: Election Results Nov 4, 2025
(11-05-2025 11:27 AM)maximus Wrote:  
(11-05-2025 10:38 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
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(11-05-2025 09:29 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Because our tax dollars are being spent there. Not that you would know anything about that. People on spousal support usually dont pay taxes.

FFS, you're ignorant. Our tax dollars are spent everywhere...I don't spend a second of my day worrying about what any Mayor in any random red city is doing.

And you're projecting again...you're the one who had a wife who divorced them, not me.

TBF, NYC isn't just a typical random city. It's the hub of finance in our country, and seeing a socialist mayor elected SHOULD BE concerning to many people outside of NYC. We'll see how it goes. I strongly doubt he does a good job.

Yet in order they previously elected Bloomberg, DeBlasio, and Adams. Each was touted (especially DeBlasio) with the same type of aim, and potential effect.

NYC (or any city) really cannot move the needle on anything outside its own area, and even in its own area, the actions of a city are put on pretty tight leash.

Yes its the hub of finance in our country. I dont see how a mayor of NY can affect that in the slightes -- the 'closest' governing entity that conceivably could affect that is the State of New York.

So great, Zohran gets elected with a background of democratic socialism. All he can really do is confined to City actions, and even then, and even no matter how zealous a Democratic Socialist he is -- his actions have to be governed by his tax coffers. And the limitations of the office. Both of which he really cannot go out and affect on a grand scale in the slightest.

Its like my friend who ran for a County District Clerk of a major metro area. Her first campaign was filled with all sorts of paeans to her very progressive politics -- all of which meant *zero* in the position she ran for and ultimately won.

Zohan talks a big epoch game -- but the game he can actually play is highly restricted in what it can do by the State of New York.
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RE: Election Results Nov 4, 2025
(11-05-2025 01:25 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  It's NOT "healthcare". It is health insurance. Health care is a service that requires payment.

The ACA cut payments to hospitals from the government. So it still absolutely affected them. The feds wanted to put the hospitals under such financial strain that they could take them over under the watch of a national emergency, hence making it a nationalized system. Thus far they've been unable to put them all into bankruptcy... yet.
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RE: Election Results Nov 4, 2025
(11-05-2025 12:38 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
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(11-05-2025 11:04 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I read an article a few days ago talking about the financial flight from NYC to Texas, that a good part of the infrastructure has already moved, and with Mamdani's win, it is likely to amplify quickly.

There actually is a scenario where Texas replaces NYC as the financial capitol of the world. In the not-so-distant future.

I don't think you're aware of the type of infrastructure thats required. We're talking billions to lay underwater FO between NY-London to get information a few MS faster.

about 3/4 of the trades done on NYSE are done algorithmically. That few MS actually results in $B each year. I think it would cost hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars to offer the kind of infrastructure already set up in NYC.

Whats it cost to lay fiber from Austin to London?

as Tanq mentioned, people can make all kinds of promises (releasing Epstein files on day 1, Mexico will pay for the wall etc). The question is what levers can they actually pull.

Dude, I'm 78 years old. I spent a number of years working in NYC for various companies, including ConEd and others involved in exactly what you are talking about.

Don't tell me you think I'm not aware of the infrastructure it takes. I actually worked in it, doofus. For years.

You act like nothing can be replicated. You realize they did it once, right? Also, there are things called work-arounds. And better technology. And innovation. And expediency. Oh, and satellites.

How do you think they already managed to move some of it to Texas?

Oh, and wipe that water from behind your ears, kid. You are WAY too big for your little boy britches.

you are showing whatever your experience is, you really don't understand this at all.

Latency lag alone would kill anybody trading out of Texas long term with satellites. Not to mention imagine not being able to trade everytime a thunderstorm rolls through Texas. Does that happen ever? A computer trading in NYC has already disseminated information received from London and made a trade before a computer in Texas can even send information to a satellite relay. Not competitive.

I didn't say that there aren't workarounds, or the ability to move to Texas. I said it would cost a lot of money.

Well, they're moving, regardless of your knowledge or lack thereof. And it may get worse with the Commie in charge now.

Your personal knowledge and facts? Or are you channeling 'The Five' again?
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RE: Election Results Nov 4, 2025
In Virginia, one thing was very clear.

1. Dems did not vote for a black female.
2. Dems did not vote for an openly gay man
3. NAACP refused to endorse a black woman and instead endorsed a white woman.
4. Obama endorsed a white woman and a someone who wants to murder opposition.
5. Obama refused to endorse a black woman.

Am I missing anything?
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RE: Election Results Nov 4, 2025
(11-05-2025 12:40 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
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(11-05-2025 10:27 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I wish they would fix the system. Somehow the repubs are unable to even put together a plan to replace the current one.

b/c there isn't one w/o taking monies away from some 'groups'...

it's puttin' back the genie in the bottle scenario...

in politics, that's a death wish...
"It's the Republicans' fault Medical Insurance is bad because they haven't come up with something to replace Obamacare!!!" You can't make this up. I know, how bout you have to get a job to get Medical Insurance if you aren't 100% disabled or 65 or older? Sounds pretty simple to me. Obamacare did what it was supposed to do. Destroy the private medical insurance business so the Feds were in control of your health. What could go wrong? Hey Stink, I see Johnny Dupree is back in business up around your way. People are so stupid.

Your take makes sense. However, if you had control of both chambers and ultimately failed to find a better replacement to Obamacare…then what good are you as a party? That’s also a reasonable take.

like I said, how do you put the genie back in the bottle ... w/o disrupting the current version of status quo, you're politically screwed...

owl #s would be pining Bismark ... #RIP

we all know the goal of zero-care was single payer ... that's the reality...

Bismark is a great solution. And yes, absolutely -- #RIP.
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RE: Election Results Nov 4, 2025
(11-05-2025 12:44 PM)mlb Wrote:  
(11-05-2025 11:44 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  "It's the Republicans' fault Medical Insurance is bad because they haven't come up with something to replace Obamacare!!!" You can't make this up. I know, how bout you have to get a job to get Medical Insurance if you aren't 100% disabled or 65 or older? Sounds pretty simple to me. Obamacare did what it was supposed to do. Destroy the private medical insurance business so the Feds were in control of your health. What could go wrong? Hey Stink, I see Johnny Dupree is back in business up around your way. People are so stupid.

A couple things here.

1. My personal belief is that Obamacare was intended to bankrupt the healthcare providers, not the insurance companies. The insurance companies are producing HUGE profits while the healthcare providers have been struggling to just get out of the red post covid. The ACA cut reimbursement rates for Medicare and Medicaid patients thus killing our hospitals, especially when their demographics currently has 60-70% of their patients being covered by one of those 2 entities. Last time I saw a breakdown it cost over $115 for every $100 reimbursed for those patients. Those rebursement cuts allowed the Obamacare plans to essentially match those reimbursement rates, exacerbating the situation.

2. A lot of companies don't offer insurance, or if they do they are terribly expensive and don't cover jack ****. Someone having a job does not guarantee them of affordible, quality insurance.

Glad someone else besides me said the second part. I've got a very good job, in the healthcare industry, that offers as far as this country goes good plans and they cover over 1/2 of the cost of the plan. Even with all of that for me to keep the plan I had last year for my now family of 3 even with the companies help will cost me over 1,300 a month, an increase of over 200 a month from this past year. AKA over 15k a year just to have the insurance not to use it at all. If I used it to the OOP max (which we did last year with my wife being pregnant) you are talking about spending over 23k for the insurance and the OOP max (and the only "illness" we had was us having a child), and quite frankly what I have is probably on the top end of what you get with jobs.
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RE: Election Results Nov 4, 2025
(11-05-2025 01:28 PM)mlb Wrote:  
(11-05-2025 01:25 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  It's NOT "healthcare". It is health insurance. Health care is a service that requires payment.

The ACA cut payments to hospitals from the government. So it still absolutely affected them. The feds wanted to put the hospitals under such financial strain that they could take them over under the watch of a national emergency, hence making it a nationalized system. Thus far they've been unable to put them all into bankruptcy... yet.

Perfect reason the government shouldn't be involved in business. See Student loas in relation to the increase in tuition. Health care is a business.
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(11-05-2025 01:29 PM)hburg Wrote:  In Virginia, one thing was very clear.

1. Dems did not vote for a black female.
2. Dems did not vote for an openly gay man
3. NAACP refused to endorse a black woman and instead endorsed a white woman.
4. Obama endorsed a white woman and a someone who wants to murder opposition.
5. Obama refused to endorse a black woman.

Am I missing anything?

nope ... not a lick...

auntie thomasina (female uncle tom) and Miyares were problem 'childs' for the donks and their globohomo takeover of the republic...
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RE: Election Results Nov 4, 2025
(11-05-2025 01:22 PM)mlb Wrote:  
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(11-05-2025 01:12 PM)mlb Wrote:  
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(11-05-2025 01:00 PM)mlb Wrote:  5% profit is basically zero, especially when they then have to take that money and reinvest it into technology and facilities.

Net income is not profit. Advocate Health is not for profit.

What were their numbers for the last 5 years?

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/chart...net-income

So they are barely pulling 5% margin, if that. Look up what successful businesses look for in terms of margin in order to be able to have financial stability. I'll clue you in, 10-15% minimum. This is healthcare, and it is absolutely needed by everyone, but you still have to be able to sustain, reinvest, and upgrade at all times or you risk the best patient outcomes.

I disagree, and FWIW I think wall street investors back me up. HCA is reporting operating income of almost 20%. All capital expenditures are amortized and deducted from NI which is ~10% annually, well in range for their industry which is a mature industry.

Wall street roughly agrees their stock has moved up with the general market and not been punished for bad results. They are not a growth industry with crazy margins like tech, biotech etc. Their stock has almost quintupled over the last 5 years while the DJIA is only up 66% in the same time frame.
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(11-05-2025 01:38 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  I disagree, and FWIW I think wall street investors back me up. HCA is reporting operating income of almost 20%. All capital expenditures are amortized and deducted from NI which is ~10% annually, well in range for their industry which is a mature industry.

Wall street roughly agrees their stock has moved up with the general market and not been punished for bad results. They are not a growth industry with crazy margins like tech, biotech etc. Their stock has almost quintupled over the last 5 years while the DJIA is only up 66% in the same time frame.

Almost no healthcare systems are on wall street, let alone for profit. As someone who does work for a non-profit hospital, we actually lose money every year except our charity foundation gives us an infusion of cash, approximately 3-4% of revenue, in order to even up the books at the end of the year (thankfully they have a large endowment that affords them the ability to do that). Most hospital systems in the region I live are the same way. Nobody is making 20%, and most aren't really even showing 5%.
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(11-05-2025 12:40 PM)miko33 Wrote:  
(11-05-2025 12:34 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Over 100 posts and extra long posts when it's a simple things:

1. Blue states voted blue

2. The only reasons Republicans had hopes in some of these elections was because Trump was on the ballot in 2024 that shifted those states slightly rightward and these Dem candidates had troubling history. Trump wasn’t on the ballot and dem voters didn’t care about troubling history

3. Women once again carried dems to victory bases on the numbers

The end

Number 2 should be very concerning moving forward if true. It means the GOP cannot figure out how to effectively organize after Trump’s gone.

I don't think that's the issue. The key is to find another leader who attracts votes.

Is JD the guy? I think maybe. We'll see. Everybody seems to think the no-brainer ticket is JD/Marco.

I think it should be JD and a strong woman like Noem or Wiles, perhaps.
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(11-05-2025 12:45 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  
(11-05-2025 12:34 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Over 100 posts and extra long posts when it's a simple things:

1. Blue states voted blue

2. The only reasons Republicans had hopes in some of these elections was because Trump was on the ballot in 2024 that shifted those states slightly rightward and these Dem candidates had troubling history. Trump wasn’t on the ballot and dem voters didn’t care about troubling history

3. Women once again carried dems to victory bases on the numbers

The end

I, for one, hope it is not the end. But I fear you are right.

I did not expect this year's elections to be "business as usual". Donald Trump has had a spectacularly successful first year in office - - undoing damage done to us by the criminally incompetent Biden administration - - on virtually every front. Showing up the media for the partisan weasels that they are. Making inroads against an entrenched deep state.

Yet it didn't make a difference. Not even a little bit. Why? Donald Trump has always been, and still remains, a very unpleasant man. But that can't be the whole explanation.

There is something very unhealthy in our current state of politics. I hope we solve it. Because otherwise it will be "the end".

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This is google AI, but it is very close to my experience in healthcare for the last 10 years.

Quote:Since the Affordable Care Act (ACA) was passed in 2010, many individual hospitals and some health systems have closed, with financial distress being the primary driver. Closures have disproportionately affected rural areas, particularly in states that did not expand Medicaid.
It is difficult to attribute closures solely to the ACA, as many factors are involved, including workforce shortages, aging infrastructure, and low patient volume, but the ACA's impact (such as reduced DSH payments and the push for value-based care) has been a contributing factor alongside other economic and policy pressures.
Examples of Hospital Systems and Hospitals that Closed
While numerous individual hospitals have closed, entire systems going out of business are less common. More often, systems sell or restructure hospitals to avoid total collapse.
Steward Health Care: Once the largest private hospital system in the country, Steward filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in May 2024. As part of its restructuring efforts, it has been selling or closing many of its 31 hospitals across eight states, leading to significant disruption.
Community Health Systems (CHS): While still in business, CHS has been in significant financial distress and has sold or closed numerous facilities since its peak to manage debt.
Rural Hospitals: The majority of closures since 2010 have been individual rural hospitals. As of November 2020, 134 rural hospitals had closed or stopped providing inpatient services since January 2010. States with the most closures include Texas (21), Tennessee (14), and Oklahoma and Georgia (8 each).
Examples of specific hospitals that ceased inpatient services include Mercy Hospital (Independence, Kansas), Parkway Regional Hospital (Fulton, Kentucky), and North Adams Regional Hospital (Massachusetts).
Key Drivers of Closures Since 2010
Financial Pressures: Many hospitals, particularly rural ones, operate on thin margins.
Medicaid Expansion: States that expanded Medicaid under the ACA experienced fewer rural hospital closures compared to non-expansion states, indicating that the lack of expansion contributed to financial vulnerability for some hospitals.
Shift to Outpatient Care: The ACA's focus on bundled payments and reducing hospital admissions has encouraged a shift toward outpatient care, challenging the traditional inpatient revenue model.
Uncompensated Care: Despite the ACA, hospitals in non-expansion states still face high levels of uncompensated care costs from uninsured patients, which strains their finances.
Private Equity Involvement: In some cases, such as with Steward Health Care, private equity ownership and related financial strategies have been cited as a factor in system collapse.
The list of individual hospitals that have closed is extensive and spread across many states, reflecting a challenging financial environment for many providers, especially in underserved areas.
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RE: Election Results Nov 4, 2025
(11-05-2025 01:29 PM)hburg Wrote:  In Virginia, one thing was very clear.

1. Dems did not vote for a black female.
2. Dems did not vote for an openly gay man
3. NAACP refused to endorse a black woman and instead endorsed a white woman.
4. Obama endorsed a white woman and a someone who wants to murder opposition.
5. Obama refused to endorse a black woman.

Am I missing anything?

1. Dems voted for a candidate, not a sex and not a gender.
2. Dems voted for a candidate, not a sexual persuasion.
3. NAACP endorsed a candidate, and not a race.
4. Obama endorsed a candidate, and not a race, nor a sex.
5. Obama endorsed a candidate, and not a race, nor sex.

I guess you are upset that Dems, NAACP, and Obama operated in a political manner, and not one based on race, sex, or sexual leaning?

I guess how dare that happen, a series of people operated on race neutral manner, operated in a sex neutral manner, and operated in a sexual persuasion neutral manner. The horror. The sheer outrage.
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#5.
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RE: Election Results Nov 4, 2025
(11-05-2025 01:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-05-2025 12:40 PM)miko33 Wrote:  
(11-05-2025 12:34 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Over 100 posts and extra long posts when it's a simple things:

1. Blue states voted blue

2. The only reasons Republicans had hopes in some of these elections was because Trump was on the ballot in 2024 that shifted those states slightly rightward and these Dem candidates had troubling history. Trump wasn’t on the ballot and dem voters didn’t care about troubling history

3. Women once again carried dems to victory bases on the numbers

The end

Number 2 should be very concerning moving forward if true. It means the GOP cannot figure out how to effectively organize after Trump’s gone.

I don't think that's the issue. The key is to find another leader who attracts votes.

Is JD the guy? I think maybe. We'll see. Everybody seems to think the no-brainer ticket is JD/Marco.

I think it should be JD and a strong woman like Noem or Wiles, perhaps.

keep pounding ballot reform in the states that matter, take mail-it-inns to SCOTUS, and fk all the rest of the bs...

JDV and whomever will be just fine ... the blue is always going blue ... there's still a few states that haven't tossed in the towel to this point...

it's the only way ... if not, it wouldn't matter if you reincarnated JFK and Marilyn as the resurrected 'right' ... 03-wink
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RE: Election Results Nov 4, 2025
(11-05-2025 01:51 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(11-05-2025 01:29 PM)hburg Wrote:  In Virginia, one thing was very clear.

1. Dems did not vote for a black female.
2. Dems did not vote for an openly gay man
3. NAACP refused to endorse a black woman and instead endorsed a white woman.
4. Obama endorsed a white woman and a someone who wants to murder opposition.
5. Obama refused to endorse a black woman.

Am I missing anything?

1. Dems voted for a candidate, not a sex and not a gender.
2. Dems voted for a candidate, not a sexual persuasion.
3. NAACP endorsed a candidate, and not a race.
4. Obama endorsed a candidate, and not a race, nor a sex.
5. Obama endorsed a candidate, and not a race, nor sex.


I guess you are upset that Dems, NAACP, and Obama operated in a political manner, and not one based on race, sex, or sexual leaning?

I guess how dare that happen, a series of people operated on race neutral manner, operated in a sex neutral manner, and operated in a sexual persuasion neutral manner. The horror. The sheer outrage.

that may be your best interpretation of the medicine man from the 19th century...
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RE: Election Results Nov 4, 2025
(11-05-2025 01:53 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(11-05-2025 01:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-05-2025 12:40 PM)miko33 Wrote:  
(11-05-2025 12:34 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Over 100 posts and extra long posts when it's a simple things:

1. Blue states voted blue

2. The only reasons Republicans had hopes in some of these elections was because Trump was on the ballot in 2024 that shifted those states slightly rightward and these Dem candidates had troubling history. Trump wasn’t on the ballot and dem voters didn’t care about troubling history

3. Women once again carried dems to victory bases on the numbers

The end

Number 2 should be very concerning moving forward if true. It means the GOP cannot figure out how to effectively organize after Trump’s gone.

I don't think that's the issue. The key is to find another leader who attracts votes.

Is JD the guy? I think maybe. We'll see. Everybody seems to think the no-brainer ticket is JD/Marco.

I think it should be JD and a strong woman like Noem or Wiles, perhaps.

keep pounding ballot reform in the states that matter, take mail-it-inns to SCOTUS, and fk all the rest of the bs...

JDV and whomever will be just fine ... the blue is always going blue ... there's still a few states that haven't tossed in the towel to this point...

it's the only way ... if not, it wouldn't matter if you reincarnated JFK and Marilyn as the resurrected 'right' ... 03-wink

NY, NJ,Cali and Nova voted blue.

Shocker

They got him now.

03-lmfao
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RE: Election Results Nov 4, 2025
(11-05-2025 01:53 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(11-05-2025 01:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-05-2025 12:40 PM)miko33 Wrote:  
(11-05-2025 12:34 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Over 100 posts and extra long posts when it's a simple things:

1. Blue states voted blue

2. The only reasons Republicans had hopes in some of these elections was because Trump was on the ballot in 2024 that shifted those states slightly rightward and these Dem candidates had troubling history. Trump wasn’t on the ballot and dem voters didn’t care about troubling history

3. Women once again carried dems to victory bases on the numbers

The end

Number 2 should be very concerning moving forward if true. It means the GOP cannot figure out how to effectively organize after Trump’s gone.

I don't think that's the issue. The key is to find another leader who attracts votes.

Is JD the guy? I think maybe. We'll see. Everybody seems to think the no-brainer ticket is JD/Marco.

I think it should be JD and a strong woman like Noem or Wiles, perhaps.

keep pounding ballot reform in the states that matter, take mail-it-inns to SCOTUS, and fk all the rest of the bs...

JDV and whomever will be just fine ... the blue is always going blue ... there's still a few states that haven't tossed in the towel to this point...

it's the only way ... if not, it wouldn't matter if you reincarnated JFK and Marilyn as the resurrected 'right' ... 03-wink

Well, that part goes without saying. If somebody doesn't keep a close eye on the crooks, you're right, it matters not whom the Pubs run. That's always a given.

I mean, how many times have you typed mail-it-ins in the last few years? 03-lmfao
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RE: Election Results Nov 4, 2025
(11-05-2025 01:57 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(11-05-2025 01:51 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(11-05-2025 01:29 PM)hburg Wrote:  In Virginia, one thing was very clear.

1. Dems did not vote for a black female.
2. Dems did not vote for an openly gay man
3. NAACP refused to endorse a black woman and instead endorsed a white woman.
4. Obama endorsed a white woman and a someone who wants to murder opposition.
5. Obama refused to endorse a black woman.

Am I missing anything?

1. Dems voted for a candidate, not a sex and not a gender.
2. Dems voted for a candidate, not a sexual persuasion.
3. NAACP endorsed a candidate, and not a race.
4. Obama endorsed a candidate, and not a race, nor a sex.
5. Obama endorsed a candidate, and not a race, nor sex.


I guess you are upset that Dems, NAACP, and Obama operated in a political manner, and not one based on race, sex, or sexual leaning?

I guess how dare that happen, a series of people operated on race neutral manner, operated in a sex neutral manner, and operated in a sexual persuasion neutral manner. The horror. The sheer outrage.

that may be your best interpretation of the medicine man from the 19th century...

yo, trip As, what's the donk count at now ... 5, 6, 7, ... 03-wink
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