(10-14-2025 05:26 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  If I'm correct, Arizona doesn't ever change it and I haven't heard any Arizonan complain about it. I'm retired, it doesn't make any difference to me, no how.

When I lived in Arizona it was always a bit of feeling of glee when it was time to switch and we didn't have to do it. Now in Singapore we don't have to mess with it either - of course, there is no real change in sunrise and sunset due to our location near the equator.

I am really happy to see the time change be eliminated. I really don't care which it is, as people will adjust. However, the disruption from the time change is what is bad and I am happy to see Trump do something about it.

I am also happy for Mother as she had long pointed out how it was absurd, and I am happy to see it happen during her lifetime.

Sleep is for weaklings

I just want to give a shout out to all the flat earthers ... if youse were right, we would have never had this issue ...

(10-15-2025 04:17 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Sleep is for weaklings

"I'll sleep with the worms when..." ... yeah, I remember those days of runnin' the roads veddy well ... now my arthritic arse begs for it more than any ... funny how things change as we age ...

I'll get all the sleep I need when I'm dead.

AI search response explaining how DST started...

Quote:Daylight saving time (DST) was first implemented in the USA in 1918 during World War I as a measure to conserve fuel and power by extending the workday into daylight hours. It was repealed after the war but reinstated during World War II in 1942 for the same reason. The system became more standardized with the Uniform Time Act of 1966 and was extended most recently by the Energy Policy Act of 2005.

World War I: The Standard Time Act of 1918 introduced DST to help with the war effort by saving energy. Extending the workday reduced the need for artificial lighting.

Repeal and re-implementation: After WWI, DST was repealed due to unpopularity, particularly among farmers who opposed the change. It was re-enacted during World War II in 1942 and repealed again in 1945.

Standardization and extension: The Uniform Time Act of 1966 established the twice-a-year time change for states that chose to observe it, creating a more uniform system. The Energy Policy Act of 2005 further extended the period of DST, setting the current dates for when it begins and ends.

I think farmers (and drive-in theater owners who now are almost gone) have lost their political clout over the years.

Being retired, I don't really care which way it goes. I just want us to pick one and stick with it full time.

If they get that done it would be one more good reason for a red wave next NOV.

As an aside about movie drive-in theaters, which were a staple when I was growing up in the late 40s to early 60s, their owners were opposed to DST, just like farmers.

That made me wonder if that industry is still even alive. Here's what I found:

Quote:There are between approximately 283 and 330 movie drive-in theaters remaining in the USA, according to recent estimates from organizations like the United Drive-In Theatre Owners Association and other sources. This number represents a significant decline from the peak of over 4,000 in the 1950s but has remained relatively stable in recent years.

Recent figures: The most current figures place the number between 283 and 330 drive-ins.

Historical context: The number has fallen dramatically from a peak of over 4,000 in the late 1950s due to factors like urban development and competition from television and indoor cinemas.

Current trends: While numbers fluctuated during the pandemic, the total has stabilized recently. Some sources, such as the United Drive-In Theatre Owners Association (UDITOA), reported 283 drive-ins in 2024.

Geographical distribution: Drive-ins are most commonly found in the Midwest and Northeast. New York, Pennsylvania, and Ohio have the highest concentrations.

(10-15-2025 07:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  As an aside about movie drive-in theaters, which were a staple when I was growing up in the late 40s to early 60s, their owners were opposed to DST, just like farmers.

That made me wonder if that industry is still even alive. Here's what I found:

Quote:There are between approximately 283 and 330 movie drive-in theaters remaining in the USA, according to recent estimates from organizations like the United Drive-In Theatre Owners Association and other sources. This number represents a significant decline from the peak of over 4,000 in the 1950s but has remained relatively stable in recent years.

Recent figures: The most current figures place the number between 283 and 330 drive-ins.

Historical context: The number has fallen dramatically from a peak of over 4,000 in the late 1950s due to factors like urban development and competition from television and indoor cinemas.

Current trends: While numbers fluctuated during the pandemic, the total has stabilized recently. Some sources, such as the United Drive-In Theatre Owners Association (UDITOA), reported 283 drive-ins in 2024.

Geographical distribution: Drive-ins are most commonly found in the Midwest and Northeast. New York, Pennsylvania, and Ohio have the highest concentrations.

the Beverly Drive-in in the 'burg was a must for fonzies back in the 70s to the time it shut down in the 80s ... today, it's just a forgone conclusion to the wither in time...

some 'nostalgic' crew tried to reopen in the 90s ... oopsy...

I'm with the "split the difference and never change again" crowd.

I dearly love it staying light later in the summers. I always hated in the winter going to work in the dark and also going home in the dark….. I’m in the stay light later crowd.

(10-15-2025 06:19 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 04:17 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Sleep is for weaklings

"I'll sleep with the worms when..." ... yeah, I remember those days of runnin' the roads veddy well ... now my arthritic arse begs for it more than any ... funny how things change as we age ...

...and you're just getting started. Wait until you hit your 70s. That's when I felt I was really old. Much more when I hit 76...much more stress and duress.

...and I guess drive in theater owners are gonna have to code. LOL

(10-15-2025 09:13 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 06:19 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 04:17 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Sleep is for weaklings

"I'll sleep with the worms when..." ... yeah, I remember those days of runnin' the roads veddy well ... now my arthritic arse begs for it more than any ... funny how things change as we age ...

...and you're just getting started. Wait until you hit your 70s. That's when I felt I was really old. Much more when I hit 76...much more stress and duress.

...and I guess drive in theater owners are gonna have to code. LOL

lol ... you should see pops with Parkinsons (10 years now) at almost 84 ... like yourself, we simply don't quit ... and Ja!, I'm veddy thankful I'm not surrounded by donktardios in the familia ...

(10-15-2025 09:13 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 06:19 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-15-2025 04:17 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Sleep is for weaklings

"I'll sleep with the worms when..." ... yeah, I remember those days of runnin' the roads veddy well ... now my arthritic arse begs for it more than any ... funny how things change as we age ...

...and you're just getting started. Wait until you hit your 70s. That's when I felt I was really old. Much more when I hit 76...much more stress and duress.

...and I guess drive in theater owners are gonna have to code. LOL

Age 70 is when I caught congestive heart failure from a stupid virus. I didn't even know that was a thing. Before that, my cardiologist had described my heart as the healthiest he had ever seen at any age, in his practice.

Took a few years and 2 surgeries, but I am now back to full health, including my fully recovered heart, and I am steaming toward the big 8-0 after one more birthday...lordy lordy...Andy will be 40...doubled, lol.

As for drive-in theater owners, nah, the article says the number has stabilized over the last few years, with most of them in the NE and midwest. But there were 4000 in the 1950s (the middle of my childhood), and now there are 300 or so, FWIW.

(10-14-2025 01:33 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

Wait a sec...

we're in Daylight time right now. On Nov 2 we fall back 1 hour to Standard time.

So are we ending Daylight time or Standard time?

If we're getting rid of Daylight time, then we'll fall back on 11/2 to Standard time and will live in perpetual darkness.

Or are we moving to Daylight time meaning we WON'T fall back on 11/2?

(10-15-2025 10:52 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  Or are we moving to Daylight time meaning we WON'T fall back on 11/2?

I believe this is Trump's plan, yes.

(10-15-2025 10:52 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 01:33 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

Wait a sec...

we're in Daylight time right now. On Nov 2 we fall back 1 hour to Standard time.

So are we ending Daylight time or Standard time?

If we're getting rid of Daylight time, then we'll fall back on 11/2 to Standard time and will live in perpetual darkness.

Or are we moving to Daylight time meaning we WON'T fall back on 11/2?

ok... read a few more posts in the thread and saw this was covered already.

(10-15-2025 10:52 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 01:33 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

Wait a sec...

we're in Daylight time right now. On Nov 2 we fall back 1 hour to Standard time.

So are we ending Daylight time or Standard time?

If we're getting rid of Daylight time, then we'll fall back on 11/2 to Standard time and will live in perpetual darkness.

Or are we moving to Daylight time meaning we WON'T fall back on 11/2?

Trump wants to end Standard time, and make Daylight time permanent. His EO is to suspend the change and stay on DST.

The problem is, all the states have the option to choose either, at the moment. I don't see how you take that away. Most of Arizona, some parts of Indiana, plus Hawaii, stay on ST all year. Will they now move to DT?

I don't care so long as it stays one way or the other where I am.

(10-15-2025 11:09 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  I don't care so long as it stays one way or the other where I am.

That's how I feel. No more changing back and forth.