“Study suggests most Americans would be healthier without daylight saving time”

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2...-time.html

In before filth say its rayciss

Meh, I don't like it. Where I am, it will be daylight at 4:30 in the morning in the summer. I don't need by circadian daylight that early. It would actually screw it up regardless of what that study says. Would have to go to bed at 8 p.m. to get 8 hours. lol.

Even up at 0600 its a waste of 90 minutes of daylight.

If Trump WANTS daylight savings time to be permanent----why on earth would he suspend daylight savings time (especially when he would be doing it at a time when the clocks would normally revert to normal time anyway). Furthermore---Im at a loss as to how the president override an already existing past act of congress that currently controls the use of daylight savings time without legislative action. Presidential orders only reflect how the Executive Branch operates---they cannot create or ignore existing laws previously passed by congress and signed into law by past presidents.

(10-14-2025 02:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  If Trump WANTS daylight savings time to be permanent----why on earth would he suspect daylight savings time (especially when he would be doing it at a time when the clocks would normally revert to normal time anyway).

Impose upon the people the option that most don't want to force Congress to formally address it.

I think the DHS post in the OP is confusing. Trump doesn't want to end DST. He wants to make it permanent. Wants more daylight at the END of the day, not at the BEGINNING.

He is suspending the switch back to Standard Time.

A summary post from Grok:

Quote:Trump Weighs Executive Order to Suspend Daylight Saving Time
Last updated 48 minutes ago

President Donald Trump is reportedly considering an executive order to temporarily halt Daylight Saving Time changes ahead of the November 2 clock adjustment, awaiting congressional action for a permanent solution. His positions have shifted over time, including support for permanent DST in 2019 and calls to eliminate the biannual shifts in 2024, with recent emphasis on extending evening daylight. Public opinions on social media remain split between favoring year-round DST for later sunsets and standard time for earlier sunrises, amid frustrations over sleep disruptions and stalled bills like the 2022 Sunshine Protection Act.

This story is a summary of posts on X and may evolve over time. Grok can make mistakes, verify its outputs.

wachu two willis' talkin' 'bout ... he wants to eliminate the time change with "lighter later"...

who gives a shite if he doesn't know the difference between standard and savings...

personally, I'd split the difference and call it a 'day' ...

I do think schools and parents of school kids who walk will hate that though. Depends on where you are but for me that's a sunrise around 8:20 a.m. in Dec.

What's going to happen if Trump does this (because Trump did it) is states are going to pass their own laws and we're going have blue states with one time and red states with another time. lmao

(10-14-2025 02:25 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 02:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  If Trump WANTS daylight savings time to be permanent----why on earth would he suspect daylight savings time (especially when he would be doing it at a time when the clocks would normally revert to normal time anyway).

Impose upon the people the option that most don't want to force Congress to formally address it.

Nope. That's why I said the original post from DHS is confusing. Trump is suspending the switch back to Standard Time on Nov. 2, thus making Daylight Savings Time permanent until Congress can change it to that permanently.

(10-14-2025 02:27 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 02:25 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 02:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  If Trump WANTS daylight savings time to be permanent----why on earth would he suspect daylight savings time (especially when he would be doing it at a time when the clocks would normally revert to normal time anyway).

Impose upon the people the option that most don't want to force Congress to formally address it.

Nope. That's why I said the original post from DHS is confusing. Trump is suspending the switch back to Standard Time on Nov. 2, thus making Daylight Savings Time permanent until Congress can change it to that permanently.

I was just pontificating on why he might do something like that. Original msg was confusing though and I read that way as well.

(10-14-2025 02:27 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  wachu two willis' talkin' 'bout ... he wants to eliminate the time change with "lighter later"...

who gives a shite if he doesn't know the difference between standard and savings...

personally, I'd split the difference and call it a 'day' ...

Exactly!. But no splitting the baby, lol. Full DST permanently.

(10-14-2025 02:27 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I do think schools and parents of school kids who walk will hate that though. Depends on where you are but for me that's a sunrise around 8:20 a.m. in Dec.

What's going to happen if Trump does this (because Trump did it) is states are going to pass their own laws and we're going have blue states with one time and red states with another time. lmao

yeah ... that was the old excuse that brought it into play ... some are screwed no matter what depending on which side of the zone they live ... can't please everyone...

like I said, if it was me, I'd split the difference...

(10-14-2025 02:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 02:27 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  wachu two willis' talkin' 'bout ... he wants to eliminate the time change with "lighter later"...

who gives a shite if he doesn't know the difference between standard and savings...

personally, I'd split the difference and call it a 'day' ...

Exactly!. But no splitting the baby, lol. Full DST permanently.

lol ... I don't always get my way ... that would be a pretty cool deal, though ...

I don't really care which way we go. I keep my own hours regardless of daylight. I just think it's stupid to switch back and forth twice a year.

Last poll I saw was basically split between the two choices. That's why Trump didn't do it before. He didn't want to piss off half the country. Now, in his second term, he doesn't care so much, lol.

(10-14-2025 02:34 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I don't really care which way we go. I keep my own hours regardless of daylight. I just think it's stupid to switch back and forth twice a year.

Last poll I saw was basically split between the two choices. That's why Trump didn't do it before. He didn't want to piss off half the country. Now, in his second term, he doesn't care so much, lol.

we're a lot alike ... I go to bed early and rise early .... but it's a gimme putt I get my sleep in 2 hr. patches (if I'm lucky) ... I've been wakin' up in REM (vivid dream state ... like I could smell it) the past seven days ... it's the first time in my life that's ever happened ... does that mean end is near?! ... O

(10-14-2025 02:25 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 02:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  If Trump WANTS daylight savings time to be permanent----why on earth would he suspect daylight savings time (especially when he would be doing it at a time when the clocks would normally revert to normal time anyway).

Impose upon the people the option that most don't want to force Congress to formally address it.

We would be changing back to standard time in a roughly 15 days anyway. Nobody would notice any significant change until late next spring when the time would normally switch back to DST. Just seems like kind of a nothing burger for the next 6 months or so. I think he could get the same effect by simply getting behind the bill that would make DST permanent (or the opposite if he opposes permanent DST). lol---Im also curious as to how he can override an existing law passed by congress on a whim.

(10-14-2025 02:37 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-14-2025 02:34 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I don't really care which way we go. I keep my own hours regardless of daylight. I just think it's stupid to switch back and forth twice a year.

Last poll I saw was basically split between the two choices. That's why Trump didn't do it before. He didn't want to piss off half the country. Now, in his second term, he doesn't care so much, lol.

we're a lot a like ... I go to bed early and rise early .... but it's a gimme putt I get my sleep in 2 hr. patches (if I'm lucky) ... I've been wakin' up in REM (vivid dream state ... like I could smell it) the past seven days ... it's the first time in my life that's ever happened ... does that mean end is near?! ... O

We really are similar. I sleep in two chunks every day, anywhere from 2 to 6 hours at a time. Usually 4 or 5 hours, then later 2 hours.

I did the REM thing, too, maybe a year ago. Finally stopped. Nothing else since. Have no clue why it started or stopped.

Let Congress decide.