(09-26-2025 08:05 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Tell us ballygag, how many people did you know that died from Covid?

I know one. He was my 98 year old uncle who was already in a nursing home. And guess where he caught Covid?

(09-25-2025 03:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  They may or may not have prevented you from getting Covid but we were told at the onset that they would prevent you from getting and spreading Covid and that was not the case.
BTW aren't you always criticizing others for anecdotal evidence?

Because of working in the medical field I was an early person to get the shot (required to stay employed). They never once said I wouldn't get covid, they said from the getgo that the symptoms would be much lighter compared to people who didn't get the shot. I actually got my first dose of the moderna solution on January 6th, funny enough.

I don't know who lied to you, but it had to have been someone who didn't understand that it was more like a flu shot than a real vaccine.

(09-26-2025 08:05 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Tell us ballygag, how many people did you know that died from Covid?

I know quite a few who died with covid. Family, friends, and coworkers. Most of them had comorbidities, but we attribute death from influenza in the same way. Same with someone who dies from AIDS as well. The virus weakens you until something else ultimately kills you.

(09-26-2025 09:21 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 03:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  They may or may not have prevented you from getting Covid but we were told at the onset that they would prevent you from getting and spreading Covid and that was not the case.
BTW aren't you always criticizing others for anecdotal evidence?

Because of working in the medical field I was an early person to get the shot (required to stay employed). They never once said I wouldn't get covid, they said from the getgo that the symptoms would be much lighter compared to people who didn't get the shot. I actually got my first dose of the moderna solution on January 6th, funny enough.

I don't know who lied to you, but it had to have been someone who didn't understand that it was more like a flu shot than a real vaccine.

You may want to do a search on the comments made at the time by Biden and members of the media. They aren't hard to find.

Here's Biden:

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-2021-...es-1726900

(09-26-2025 09:23 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 08:05 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Tell us ballygag, how many people did you know that died from Covid?

I know quite a few who died with covid. Family, friends, and coworkers. Most of them had comorbidities, but we attribute death from influenza in the same way. Same with someone who dies from AIDS as well. The virus weakens you until something else ultimately kills you.

You're the only person I've ever talked to that said this.

And the few that know any, like 3A, were 98 years old and a stiff wind could have killed them.

(09-26-2025 09:41 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 09:21 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 03:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  They may or may not have prevented you from getting Covid but we were told at the onset that they would prevent you from getting and spreading Covid and that was not the case.
BTW aren't you always criticizing others for anecdotal evidence?

Because of working in the medical field I was an early person to get the shot (required to stay employed). They never once said I wouldn't get covid, they said from the getgo that the symptoms would be much lighter compared to people who didn't get the shot. I actually got my first dose of the moderna solution on January 6th, funny enough.

I don't know who lied to you, but it had to have been someone who didn't understand that it was more like a flu shot than a real vaccine.

You may want to do a search on the comments made at the time by Biden and members of the media. They aren't hard to find.

Maybe people should talk to their doctor instead of an elected official or the news media. Same goes with this Tylenol debate.

(09-26-2025 09:44 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 09:23 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 08:05 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Tell us ballygag, how many people did you know that died from Covid?

I know quite a few who died with covid. Family, friends, and coworkers. Most of them had comorbidities, but we attribute death from influenza in the same way. Same with someone who dies from AIDS as well. The virus weakens you until something else ultimately kills you.

You're the only person I've ever talked to that said this.

And the few that know any, like 3A, were 98 years old and a stiff wind could have killed them.

My aunt was in her late 50s but she had comorbidities. A 35 year old coworker passed, but same deal, comorbidities.

(09-26-2025 07:12 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 06:59 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 04:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 03:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  They may or may not have prevented you from getting Covid but we were told at the onset that they would prevent you from getting and spreading Covid and that was not the case.
BTW aren't you always criticizing others for anecdotal evidence?

I only criticize when someone tries to say it proves something. I was clearly joking in saying that it prevented me from getting covid. My mask did that!

And sure, there was a lot of conflicting information when we went through this. And I am able to understand why as it was something we really had never dealt with in decades. Others, not so much.

And as I said, I was well aware at the time that the vaccine was NEVER any guarantee. Just as no vaccine is. That was pretty much conventional wisdom. But yes, some politicians may have tried to sell it as such to get people to get it. And clearly more people should have. Outcomes of those with the shots was better. Period.

There were people who didn't take the shot, had Covid and didn't know it the symptoms were so mild. How can you have a better outcome than that? And this was not like any other vaccine.

there were also healthy people who got covid and died. You just didn't know how your body was going to react to the infection.

All of which were early on because they were provided incorrect therapies and treatment.



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(09-26-2025 08:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 08:05 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Tell us ballygag, how many people did you know that died from Covid?

I know one. He was my 98 year old uncle who was already in a nursing home. And guess where he caught Covid?

My 93 year old grandmother "died of COVID" in a locked down skilled nursing facility. We had to watch her die through her window... because of the incompetence of the CDC asshats.

And no, she was never diagnosed with COVID but it sure as hell was on her death certificate.... which we objected to. She was 93 and had been declining after a stroke for 6 months.

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(09-26-2025 09:44 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 09:41 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 09:21 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 03:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  They may or may not have prevented you from getting Covid but we were told at the onset that they would prevent you from getting and spreading Covid and that was not the case.
BTW aren't you always criticizing others for anecdotal evidence?

Because of working in the medical field I was an early person to get the shot (required to stay employed). They never once said I wouldn't get covid, they said from the getgo that the symptoms would be much lighter compared to people who didn't get the shot. I actually got my first dose of the moderna solution on January 6th, funny enough.

I don't know who lied to you, but it had to have been someone who didn't understand that it was more like a flu shot than a real vaccine.

You may want to do a search on the comments made at the time by Biden and members of the media. They aren't hard to find.

Maybe people should talk to their doctor instead of an elected official or the news media. Same goes with this Tylenol debate.

I'm sorry. You only asked who lied about what the vaccine would do. I responded to that. I don't disagree that people should go to their doctors but do you remember how the doctors who didn't follow the narrative were treated?

I did have a very old friend, as in we went back to Elementary school, not that he was all that old in years. He confided in me and another friend that he was sick and had been diagnosed with RSV. Which is not good of course. People die from that all the time. He died shortly after that. This was in 2021 I think?

Guess what his death certificate said?

(09-26-2025 09:50 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 08:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 08:05 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Tell us ballygag, how many people did you know that died from Covid?

I know one. He was my 98 year old uncle who was already in a nursing home. And guess where he caught Covid?

My 93 year old grandmother "died of COVID" in a locked down skilled nursing facility. We had to watch her die through her window... because of the incompetence of the CDC asshats.

And no, she was never diagnosed with COVID but it sure as hell was on her death certificate.... which we objected to. She was 93 and had been declining after a stroke for 6 months.

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We couldn't even see my uncle. He died alone. Very sad. And he was already at death's door, so who knows?

You can't hate them enough.

(09-26-2025 09:21 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 03:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  They may or may not have prevented you from getting Covid but we were told at the onset that they would prevent you from getting and spreading Covid and that was not the case.
BTW aren't you always criticizing others for anecdotal evidence?

Because of working in the medical field I was an early person to get the shot (required to stay employed). They never once said I wouldn't get covid, they said from the getgo that the symptoms would be much lighter compared to people who didn't get the shot. I actually got my first dose of the moderna solution on January 6th, funny enough.

I don't know who lied to you, but it had to have been someone who didn't understand that it was more like a flu shot than a real vaccine.

I told that to a brainwashed Democrat voting ex-school nurse and she laughed and asked me if I was a doctor now. Who's laughing now. She actually believed it was a vac and not a therapeutic.

(09-26-2025 09:50 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 08:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 08:05 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Tell us ballygag, how many people did you know that died from Covid?

I know one. He was my 98 year old uncle who was already in a nursing home. And guess where he caught Covid?

My 93 year old grandmother "died of COVID" in a locked down skilled nursing facility. We had to watch her die through her window... because of the incompetence of the CDC asshats.

And no, she was never diagnosed with COVID but it sure as hell was on her death certificate.... which we objected to. She was 93 and had been declining after a stroke for 6 months.

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My grandparents were 98 and we had the same situation. We couldn't see either and both got Covid while in the nursing home. Grandpa passed as he had congestive heart failure. Grandma also had heart issues but recovered and lived to 100. I'm still bitter over not getting to talk to my Grandpa the last year of his life.

(09-26-2025 09:50 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  I'm sorry. You only asked who lied about what the vaccine would do. I responded to that. I don't disagree that people should go to their doctors but do you remember how the doctors who didn't follow the narrative were treated?

What was the narrative? Mine most certainly didn't tell me I wouldn't covid after getting the shots. I didn't have a long discussion because both my doctor and me were required to get it by our employer anyway.

(09-26-2025 09:57 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 09:21 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 03:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  They may or may not have prevented you from getting Covid but we were told at the onset that they would prevent you from getting and spreading Covid and that was not the case.
BTW aren't you always criticizing others for anecdotal evidence?

Because of working in the medical field I was an early person to get the shot (required to stay employed). They never once said I wouldn't get covid, they said from the getgo that the symptoms would be much lighter compared to people who didn't get the shot. I actually got my first dose of the moderna solution on January 6th, funny enough.

I don't know who lied to you, but it had to have been someone who didn't understand that it was more like a flu shot than a real vaccine.

I told that to a brainwashed Democrat voting ex-school nurse and she laughed and asked me if I was a doctor now. Who's laughing now. She actually believed it was a vac and not a therapeutic.

They pushed it as a Vac's and at the same time trying to change the definition of a vaccine.

(09-26-2025 10:05 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 09:50 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  I'm sorry. You only asked who lied about what the vaccine would do. I responded to that. I don't disagree that people should go to their doctors but do you remember how the doctors who didn't follow the narrative were treated?

What was the narrative? Mine most certainly didn't tell me I wouldn't covid after getting the shots. I didn't have a long discussion because both my doctor and me were required to get it by our employer anyway.

You are kidding right? You don't remember all the pressure put on people to take the shot regardless of their risk factor? You don't remember how doctors who questioned the vaccine or suggested alternative treatments were vilified?
My wife was forced to take the shot. She tested positive for Covid 3 or 4 times since. I didn't take the shot and had it once. Anecdotal evidence I know but it sure makes me feel better about not taking it.

(09-26-2025 10:08 AM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 09:57 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 09:21 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 03:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  They may or may not have prevented you from getting Covid but we were told at the onset that they would prevent you from getting and spreading Covid and that was not the case.
BTW aren't you always criticizing others for anecdotal evidence?

Because of working in the medical field I was an early person to get the shot (required to stay employed). They never once said I wouldn't get covid, they said from the getgo that the symptoms would be much lighter compared to people who didn't get the shot. I actually got my first dose of the moderna solution on January 6th, funny enough.

I don't know who lied to you, but it had to have been someone who didn't understand that it was more like a flu shot than a real vaccine.

I told that to a brainwashed Democrat voting ex-school nurse and she laughed and asked me if I was a doctor now. Who's laughing now. She actually believed it was a vac and not a therapeutic.

They pushed it as a Vac's and at the same time trying to change the definition of a vaccine.

Exactly. They keep forgetting that. Once upon a time a vaccine prevented you from getting something. You know, like polio or smallpox.

Now vaccines are just to make Big Pharma more money.

(09-26-2025 10:10 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 10:05 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 09:50 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  I'm sorry. You only asked who lied about what the vaccine would do. I responded to that. I don't disagree that people should go to their doctors but do you remember how the doctors who didn't follow the narrative were treated?

What was the narrative? Mine most certainly didn't tell me I wouldn't covid after getting the shots. I didn't have a long discussion because both my doctor and me were required to get it by our employer anyway.

You are kidding right? You don't remember all the pressure put on people to take the shot regardless of their risk factor? You don't remember how doctors who questioned the vaccine or suggested alternative treatments were vilified?
My wife was forced to take the shot. She tested positive for Covid 3 or 4 times since. I didn't take the shot and had it once. Anecdotal evidence I know but it sure makes me feel better about not taking it.

Yeah, because the harm of getting the vaccine was virtually nonexistent. And regardless of your health, studies all show that those who were vaccinated had better outcomes if they got Covid.

But yes, every poster here knew a friend or family member who got heart issues that DEFINITELY were a result of taking the vaccine.