(09-25-2025 12:46 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 12:39 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 12:30 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 11:32 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  I look at it his way.. you (average American) jumped all over the mRNA vaccine when it was proposed by the White House. even when it wasn't "mandatory".

But now that President Trump suggests a non-mandatory stay on the use of Tylenol for pregnant women.. GOVT OVERREACH! GOVT OVERREACH!!!

when their own medicine chart (Inlcuded with the bottle), says "Pregnant or Breast Feeding Please see your health care specialist before taking... " (I was going to add *This crap*..before backing of my statement)

Trump was the one who spearheaded the mRNA vaccine, hailed it as a medical miracle and one of the greatest scientific achievements in human history.

Go ahead and quote the democrat reactions to when he said that and then those reactions changed when Biden took office and started the mandates.
Also look at how the so called cult reacted. Did they blindly take the shot based on Trumps comments?

yup lots of bad knee jerk reactions from left leaning people just because trump was saying it. That being said, I'd also not just take Trumps word for it, or even a politician I agreed with, I'd like to get some level of consensus from the broader scientific community.

And to be fair- the Mrna under warp speed are fine for a specific group of people (elderly, at risk)

Even though Tucker Carlson was right when he said, "We’re all pretending we’ve got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it’s been is too tough to digest. But come on. There really isn’t an upside to Trump.” 45 was infinitely better than how 47 has been turning out.

Right, the only thing the dems really said was not to just take it because trump said so. Kind of like we're doing now, by not stopping Tylenol use for pregnant women.

And then the Dems went out and took the shot when Biden told them it was okay and that it would stop them from getting Covid. Nobody is preventing anyone from taking Tylenol as is evident by the idiots downing copious amounts to spite Trump.

(09-25-2025 01:56 PM)Claw Wrote:  Here's layman's summary of what I read.

Tylenol can temporarily reduce the body's ability to fight attacks.

You give a child a vaccine their body fights off the vaccine and that establishes immunity. BUT, if you give that child Tylenol with the vaccine, the child's ability to fight off the attacks is interfered with by the Tylenol. Then bad things can happen such as autism.

The pro-vaccine people shouldn't be opposed to this theory. It would mean they are right. The vaccines don't cause autism. BUT, a vaccine interacting with TYLENOL can increase the chances that something goes wrong.

The medical theory behind this is essentially this.

Acetaminophen depletes glutathione, disrupts detox, and magnifies vaccine injury.

Glutathione helps detox the body. Without it, toxins are left in the body longer. A normal body will detox after vaccination, but if you remove the glutathione, it can't. That leaves toxins in the body longer and increases the risk of damage.

They KNOW that acetaminophen depletes glutathione. Medical fact. The rest is not proven, but it is logical enough to dictate caution and further study.

The anti-Trump reaction to this is just childish.

As I repeatedly said on my 7 year old grandson. He was basically a normal 12 month old, met all his milestones. Babbling, saying words, bright eyed, normal.

With in weeks of taking the mmr vaccine everything changed. BTW the doctor told us to give him....

if you guessed Tylenol, you are correct. I believe she said every 6 hours for a couple days because it would be painful and keep any fever he might get down. His grandmother did just that.

With in a couple months we really started noticing the changes and talking ceased. While for a level 2, he's doing a lot better than a lot at that level its going to be difficult to get close to "normal"

Without the dna already being there a child wont get autism. But something has changed that is triggering it in larger numbers. Not just those that are on the spectrum. But the level 2 and level 3 autism.

(09-25-2025 02:54 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  And then the Dems went out and took the shot when Biden told them it was okay and that it would stop them from getting Covid. Nobody is preventing anyone from taking Tylenol as is evident by the idiots downing copious amounts to spite Trump.

I got the Moderna shots, first round. I did so without any clue what Biden even said about them. And I knew full well it was no guarantee I wouldn't still get covid.

And the evidence is/was clear. People who were vaccinated had better outcomes with Covid when compared to those who didn't.

I got the shots, never got covid. So they prevented me from getting covid, using right-wing correlation logic.

They may or may not have prevented you from getting Covid but we were told at the onset that they would prevent you from getting and spreading Covid and that was not the case.
BTW aren't you always criticizing others for anecdotal evidence?

(09-25-2025 03:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  They may or may not have prevented you from getting Covid but we were told at the onset that they would prevent you from getting and spreading Covid and that was not the case.

I always bring up the instructions on the CDC website showing the public how to make a mask out of an old T-Shirt to protect you from catching CoVid. How many people did that? That event alone should have shut the CDC down.
Proof

(09-25-2025 03:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  They may or may not have prevented you from getting Covid but we were told at the onset that they would prevent you from getting and spreading Covid and that was not the case.
BTW aren't you always criticizing others for anecdotal evidence?

I only criticize when someone tries to say it proves something. I was clearly joking in saying that it prevented me from getting covid. My mask did that!

And sure, there was a lot of conflicting information when we went through this. And I am able to understand why as it was something we really had never dealt with in decades. Others, not so much.

And as I said, I was well aware at the time that the vaccine was NEVER any guarantee. Just as no vaccine is. That was pretty much conventional wisdom. But yes, some politicians may have tried to sell it as such to get people to get it. And clearly more people should have. Outcomes of those with the shots was better. Period.

What I don't understand - why is the President of the United States making public statements about this? He can't even pronounce acetaminophen....

Consult your doctor, not the POTUS.

(09-25-2025 05:58 PM)YNot Wrote:  What I don't understand - why is the President of the United States making public statements about this? He can't even pronounce acetaminophen....

Consult your doctor, not the POTUS.

Public Service.

(09-25-2025 05:59 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 05:58 PM)YNot Wrote:  What I don't understand - why is the President of the United States making public statements about this? He can't even pronounce acetaminophen....

Consult your doctor, not the POTUS.

Public Service.

OK. Trust and consult your doctors and healthcare professionals about the use of acetaminophen to weigh the benefits and risks based on your specific circumstances.

There's my public service.

(09-25-2025 06:14 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 05:59 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 05:58 PM)YNot Wrote:  What I don't understand - why is the President of the United States making public statements about this? He can't even pronounce acetaminophen....

Consult your doctor, not the POTUS.

Public Service.

OK. Trust and consult your doctors and healthcare professionals about the use of acetaminophen to weigh the benefits and risks based on your specific circumstances.

There's my public service.

and if your doctors say its ok, but the big pharma who makes it wont, then get another doctor.

or just trust Trump.

Even Tylenol knows you are a freaking dummy if you take it when pregnant.

Quote:Curious social media users apparently dug up the old posts from the Tylenol account — which has not posted since 2021 — on X. In one post from March 7, 2017, the account posted, “We actually don’t recommend using any of our products while pregnant. Thank you for taking the time to voice your concerns today.”

(09-25-2025 04:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 03:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  They may or may not have prevented you from getting Covid but we were told at the onset that they would prevent you from getting and spreading Covid and that was not the case.
BTW aren't you always criticizing others for anecdotal evidence?

I only criticize when someone tries to say it proves something. I was clearly joking in saying that it prevented me from getting covid. My mask did that!

And sure, there was a lot of conflicting information when we went through this. And I am able to understand why as it was something we really had never dealt with in decades. Others, not so much.

And as I said, I was well aware at the time that the vaccine was NEVER any guarantee. Just as no vaccine is. That was pretty much conventional wisdom. But yes, some politicians may have tried to sell it as such to get people to get it. And clearly more people should have. Outcomes of those with the shots was better. Period.

There were people who didn't take the shot, had Covid and didn't know it the symptoms were so mild. How can you have a better outcome than that? And this was not like any other vaccine.

(09-26-2025 06:59 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 04:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 03:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  They may or may not have prevented you from getting Covid but we were told at the onset that they would prevent you from getting and spreading Covid and that was not the case.
BTW aren't you always criticizing others for anecdotal evidence?

I only criticize when someone tries to say it proves something. I was clearly joking in saying that it prevented me from getting covid. My mask did that!

And sure, there was a lot of conflicting information when we went through this. And I am able to understand why as it was something we really had never dealt with in decades. Others, not so much.

And as I said, I was well aware at the time that the vaccine was NEVER any guarantee. Just as no vaccine is. That was pretty much conventional wisdom. But yes, some politicians may have tried to sell it as such to get people to get it. And clearly more people should have. Outcomes of those with the shots was better. Period.

There were people who didn't take the shot, had Covid and didn't know it the symptoms were so mild. How can you have a better outcome than that? And this was not like any other vaccine.

there were also healthy people who got covid and died. You just didn't know how your body was going to react to the infection.

(09-26-2025 07:12 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 06:59 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 04:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 03:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  They may or may not have prevented you from getting Covid but we were told at the onset that they would prevent you from getting and spreading Covid and that was not the case.
BTW aren't you always criticizing others for anecdotal evidence?

I only criticize when someone tries to say it proves something. I was clearly joking in saying that it prevented me from getting covid. My mask did that!

And sure, there was a lot of conflicting information when we went through this. And I am able to understand why as it was something we really had never dealt with in decades. Others, not so much.

And as I said, I was well aware at the time that the vaccine was NEVER any guarantee. Just as no vaccine is. That was pretty much conventional wisdom. But yes, some politicians may have tried to sell it as such to get people to get it. And clearly more people should have. Outcomes of those with the shots was better. Period.

There were people who didn't take the shot, had Covid and didn't know it the symptoms were so mild. How can you have a better outcome than that? And this was not like any other vaccine.

there were also healthy people who got covid and died. You just didn't know how your body was going to react to the infection.

Name a single "healthy" person who died from covid.

And no, the healthy guy who died in a motorcycle accident who they said had covid doesnt count, you morons.

(09-26-2025 07:12 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-26-2025 06:59 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 04:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 03:58 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  They may or may not have prevented you from getting Covid but we were told at the onset that they would prevent you from getting and spreading Covid and that was not the case.
BTW aren't you always criticizing others for anecdotal evidence?

I only criticize when someone tries to say it proves something. I was clearly joking in saying that it prevented me from getting covid. My mask did that!

And sure, there was a lot of conflicting information when we went through this. And I am able to understand why as it was something we really had never dealt with in decades. Others, not so much.

And as I said, I was well aware at the time that the vaccine was NEVER any guarantee. Just as no vaccine is. That was pretty much conventional wisdom. But yes, some politicians may have tried to sell it as such to get people to get it. And clearly more people should have. Outcomes of those with the shots was better. Period.

There were people who didn't take the shot, had Covid and didn't know it the symptoms were so mild. How can you have a better outcome than that? And this was not like any other vaccine.

there were also healthy people who got covid and died. You just didn't know how your body was going to react to the infection.

Which is true with every malady. The more pre-existing conditions you have the more vulnerable you are. Younger healthy people were not at risk.

(09-25-2025 05:58 PM)YNot Wrote:  What I don't understand - why is the President of the United States making public statements about this? He can't even pronounce acetaminophen....

Consult your doctor, not the POTUS.

Because the majority of Americans are now so retarded you feel like you have to post this

Tell us ballygag, how many people did you know that died from Covid?

(09-26-2025 08:05 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Tell us ballygag, how many people did you know that died from Covid?

Im not ballgargleapp but i dont know a single person the clot shot prevented from getting it or helped its symptoms. The prog filth went full "fascist" at the first chance they got

(09-26-2025 07:35 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Name a single "healthy" person who died from covid.

Quote:MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) — Healthy and in their 30s, Christina and Josh Tidmore figured they were low-risk for COVID-19. With conflicting viewpoints about whether to get vaccinated against the virus filling their social media feeds and social circles, they decided to wait.

On July 20, Josh came home from work with a slight cough initially thought to be sinus trouble. On Aug. 11, he died of COVID-19 at a north Alabama hospital as Christina Tidmore witnessed a doctor and her team frantically try to resuscitate her husband.

“She would say, ‘I need a pulse. ‘I would hear, ‘no pulse,’ “Christina Tidmore said through tears. “They were trying so hard.”

“Nobody should go through this. He was only 36 and I’m 35 and we have three kids.”

Though young and healthy, unvaccinated father dies of COVID

And no, this does not mean having taken the vaccine would have saved him. No vaccine is 100% effective.