(09-25-2025 11:32 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  I look at it his way.. you (average American) jumped all over the mRNA vaccine when it was proposed by the White House. even when it wasn't "mandatory".

But now that President Trump suggests a non-mandatory stay on the use of Tylenol for pregnant women.. GOVT OVERREACH! GOVT OVERREACH!!!

when their own medicine chart (Inlcuded with the bottle), says "Pregnant or Breast Feeding Please see your health care specialist before taking... " (I was going to add *This crap*..before backing of my statement)

I once read a description of people that vote Democrat and it applies across the board: Democrats believe good government is when a smart liberals aka the TV show the West Wing is in office telling people how to live their lives. When Republicans are in office it is bad governance.

Advil LiquiGels always worked wonders for me.

(09-25-2025 11:32 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  I look at it his way.. you (average American) jumped all over the mRNA vaccine when it was proposed by the White House. even when it wasn't "mandatory".

But now that President Trump suggests a non-mandatory stay on the use of Tylenol for pregnant women.. GOVT OVERREACH! GOVT OVERREACH!!!

when their own medicine chart (Inlcuded with the bottle), says "Pregnant or Breast Feeding Please see your health care specialist before taking... " (I was going to add *This crap*..before backing of my statement)

It's not really government overreach IMO, there's just no medical basis to do what they want.

And as mentioned before, of course the manufacturer is going to say that, as those things are gone over by teams of lawyers.

If Trump said, "Firing a .44 Magnum at your uvula is bad for you, very bad, do not do it", some folks would do it anyway just to own 'OMB'.

(09-25-2025 11:32 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  I look at it his way.. you (average American) jumped all over the mRNA vaccine when it was proposed by the White House. even when it wasn't "mandatory".

But now that President Trump suggests a non-mandatory stay on the use of Tylenol for pregnant women.. GOVT OVERREACH! GOVT OVERREACH!!!

when their own medicine chart (Inlcuded with the bottle), says "Pregnant or Breast Feeding Please see your health care specialist before taking... " (I was going to add *This crap*..before backing of my statement)

Trump was the one who spearheaded the mRNA vaccine, hailed it as a medical miracle and one of the greatest scientific achievements in human history.

(09-25-2025 12:30 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 11:32 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  I look at it his way.. you (average American) jumped all over the mRNA vaccine when it was proposed by the White House. even when it wasn't "mandatory".

But now that President Trump suggests a non-mandatory stay on the use of Tylenol for pregnant women.. GOVT OVERREACH! GOVT OVERREACH!!!

when their own medicine chart (Inlcuded with the bottle), says "Pregnant or Breast Feeding Please see your health care specialist before taking... " (I was going to add *This crap*..before backing of my statement)

Trump was the one who spearheaded the mRNA vaccine, hailed it as a medical miracle and one of the greatest scientific achievements in human history.

Trump is not a medical scientist. He just repeated what he was told.

I mean, damn you prog filth are stupid.

(09-25-2025 12:30 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 11:32 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  I look at it his way.. you (average American) jumped all over the mRNA vaccine when it was proposed by the White House. even when it wasn't "mandatory".

But now that President Trump suggests a non-mandatory stay on the use of Tylenol for pregnant women.. GOVT OVERREACH! GOVT OVERREACH!!!

when their own medicine chart (Inlcuded with the bottle), says "Pregnant or Breast Feeding Please see your health care specialist before taking... " (I was going to add *This crap*..before backing of my statement)

Trump was the one who spearheaded the mRNA vaccine, hailed it as a medical miracle and one of the greatest scientific achievements in human history.

Go ahead and quote the democrat reactions to when he said that and then those reactions changed when Biden took office and started the mandates.
Also look at how the so called cult reacted. Did they blindly take the shot based on Trumps comments?

(09-25-2025 12:37 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 12:30 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 11:32 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  I look at it his way.. you (average American) jumped all over the mRNA vaccine when it was proposed by the White House. even when it wasn't "mandatory".

But now that President Trump suggests a non-mandatory stay on the use of Tylenol for pregnant women.. GOVT OVERREACH! GOVT OVERREACH!!!

when their own medicine chart (Inlcuded with the bottle), says "Pregnant or Breast Feeding Please see your health care specialist before taking... " (I was going to add *This crap*..before backing of my statement)

Trump was the one who spearheaded the mRNA vaccine, hailed it as a medical miracle and one of the greatest scientific achievements in human history.

Trump is not a medical scientist. He just repeated what he was told.

so trump just does what he's told?

Trump is a businessman, not a doctor. I realize you're too stupid to grasp that distinction.

(09-25-2025 12:39 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 12:30 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 11:32 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  I look at it his way.. you (average American) jumped all over the mRNA vaccine when it was proposed by the White House. even when it wasn't "mandatory".

But now that President Trump suggests a non-mandatory stay on the use of Tylenol for pregnant women.. GOVT OVERREACH! GOVT OVERREACH!!!

when their own medicine chart (Inlcuded with the bottle), says "Pregnant or Breast Feeding Please see your health care specialist before taking... " (I was going to add *This crap*..before backing of my statement)

Trump was the one who spearheaded the mRNA vaccine, hailed it as a medical miracle and one of the greatest scientific achievements in human history.

Go ahead and quote the democrat reactions to when he said that and then those reactions changed when Biden took office and started the mandates.
Also look at how the so called cult reacted. Did they blindly take the shot based on Trumps comments?

yup lots of bad knee jerk reactions from left leaning people just because trump was saying it. That being said, I'd also not just take Trumps word for it, or even a politician I agreed with, I'd like to get some level of consensus from the broader scientific community.

And to be fair- the Mrna under warp speed are fine for a specific group of people (elderly, at risk)

Even though Tucker Carlson was right when he said, "We’re all pretending we’ve got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it’s been is too tough to digest. But come on. There really isn’t an upside to Trump.” 45 was infinitely better than how 47 has been turning out.

(09-25-2025 12:46 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Trump is a businessman, not a doctor. I realize you're too stupid to grasp that distinction.

Trump is the president. I have higher expectations than you of the office.

And by the way, many, myself included, were pissed at the way Trump handled Covid. I still voted for him in '24.

People on the Right don't walk in lockstep like you prog filth do.

(09-25-2025 12:47 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 12:46 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Trump is a businessman, not a doctor. I realize you're too stupid to grasp that distinction.

Trump is the president. I have higher expectations than you of the office.

lol!!

Who did you vote for in the last two Presidential elections?

(09-25-2025 12:48 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  And by the way, many, myself included, were pissed at the way Trump handled Covid. I still voted for him in '24.

People on the Right don't walk in lockstep like you prog filth do.

This. Heck, I didn't even vote for Trump in '16. (Went third party; regretted it ever since.)

(09-25-2025 11:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 11:32 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  I look at it his way.. you (average American) jumped all over the mRNA vaccine when it was proposed by the White House. even when it wasn't "mandatory".

But now that President Trump suggests a non-mandatory stay on the use of Tylenol for pregnant women.. GOVT OVERREACH! GOVT OVERREACH!!!

when their own medicine chart (Inlcuded with the bottle), says "Pregnant or Breast Feeding Please see your health care specialist before taking... " (I was going to add *This crap*..before backing of my statement)

It's not really government overreach IMO, there's just no medical basis to do what they want.

And as mentioned before, of course the manufacturer is going to say that, as those things are gone over by teams of lawyers.

Same Point though Tom.. (agian not aimed at any particular person here) . Just the silly tik-tokkers, who were jumping on the bandwagon because Trump told them (again ,with no scientific proof) that we needed vaccine .. aka, Operation Warp Speed.

Then this statement comes out same president, same limited scientific proof, just some previous journals saying "Maybe you should rethink taking anyyhing with acidomephrine (sp?)"

And now those people are going out of their way to say "I don't need to listen to what my govt claims".

I'm just not seeing why these people that are so adamant one way, and then completely 180 the minute it comes up again.

(09-25-2025 12:46 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 12:39 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 12:30 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-25-2025 11:32 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  I look at it his way.. you (average American) jumped all over the mRNA vaccine when it was proposed by the White House. even when it wasn't "mandatory".

But now that President Trump suggests a non-mandatory stay on the use of Tylenol for pregnant women.. GOVT OVERREACH! GOVT OVERREACH!!!

when their own medicine chart (Inlcuded with the bottle), says "Pregnant or Breast Feeding Please see your health care specialist before taking... " (I was going to add *This crap*..before backing of my statement)

Trump was the one who spearheaded the mRNA vaccine, hailed it as a medical miracle and one of the greatest scientific achievements in human history.

Go ahead and quote the democrat reactions to when he said that and then those reactions changed when Biden took office and started the mandates.
Also look at how the so called cult reacted. Did they blindly take the shot based on Trumps comments?

yup lots of bad knee jerk reactions from left leaning people just because trump was saying it. That being said, I'd also not just take Trumps word for it, or even a politician I agreed with, I'd like to get some level of consensus from the broader scientific community.

And to be fair- the Mrna under warp speed are fine for a specific group of people (elderly, at risk)

Even though Tucker Carlson was right when he said, "We’re all pretending we’ve got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it’s been is too tough to digest. But come on. There really isn’t an upside to Trump.” 45 was infinitely better than how 47 has been turning out.

There is a tremendous upside to Trump. He isn't Harris. If Tylenol says pregnant women should check with their physician then I'm not sure what the stink is other than it's Trump saying it and liberals go nuts when he makes a statement like that.

Here's layman's summary of what I read.

Tylenol can temporarily reduce the body's ability to fight attacks.

You give a child a vaccine their body fights off the vaccine and that establishes immunity. BUT, if you give that child Tylenol with the vaccine, the child's ability to fight off the attacks is interfered with by the Tylenol. Then bad things can happen such as autism.

The pro-vaccine people shouldn't be opposed to this theory. It would mean they are right. The vaccines don't cause autism. BUT, a vaccine interacting with TYLENOL can increase the chances that something goes wrong.

The medical theory behind this is essentially this.

Acetaminophen depletes glutathione, disrupts detox, and magnifies vaccine injury.

Glutathione helps detox the body. Without it, toxins are left in the body longer. A normal body will detox after vaccination, but if you remove the glutathione, it can't. That leaves toxins in the body longer and increases the risk of damage.

They KNOW that acetaminophen depletes glutathione. Medical fact. The rest is not proven, but it is logical enough to dictate caution and further study.

The anti-Trump reaction to this is just childish.