(09-12-2025 01:23 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:44 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:34 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I fear Charlie will not be the last martyr for the principals [sic] he advocated.

Hard to say, but he did have some pretty radical principles as far as the left is concerned. There's plenty of tape on him out there.

Do you have any examples of his radical principles? Serious, not trolling. I don't know much about him.

• Most people are scared when they see a black pilot flying a plane

• Taylor Swift should reject feminism and submit to her husband

• No one should be allowed to retire

• Leftists should not be allowed to move to red states

• British Colonialism was what "made the world decent"

• The guy who assaulted the Pelosi's should be bailed out

• Religious freedom should be terminated

• Multiple black politicians "stole white people’s spots"

• MLK Jr was "an awful person"

• If my 10 year old daughter was raped and got pregnant, I’d force her to carry her pregnancy to term.

• The Great Replacement Theory is reality

• Hydroxychloroquine cures COVID

• Vaccine requirements are "medical apartheid"

• Guns deaths are acceptable in order to have a 2nd amendment

• Women’s natural place is under their husband’s control

• Parents should prevent their daughters from taking birth control

• George Floyd had it coming, the Jan 6th protestors didn’t

• The 1964 Civil Rights Act was a "huge mistake"

• Encouraged parents to protest mask mandates

• Mamdani winning in NY was a travesty because Muslims did 9/11

• Muslims only come to America to destabilize Western Civilization

• Palestine "doesn’t exist" and those who support it are like the KKK

Source: Charlie Kirk tweets, podcast appearances and speeches

Dame Ole copy paste from leftist memes that have zero context and have been debunked over and over.

Pathetically retarded Fat Tom

Sent from my SM-S928U using Tapatalk

Well, if I was, I'd certainly rather be "fat" than a total ignorant clown like you.

(09-12-2025 01:22 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I agree with some of those. I don't agree with others. And some have a different meaning when viewed more in context.

As some have said above, I don't see how any of that justifies assassinating the man.

If there had been actual links to said statements posted, we'd have at least some context behind them. But no. It's just a bunch of copy pasta.

Tom: Yes, I did because it was part of a post that had several quotes in it. And Yes. I did say I should be a mod. And I'd be a fair one, too. If you have a problem with either of those, you can always just not read what I post. You know, since you have me on ignore and all.

(09-12-2025 12:44 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  • Most people are scared when they see a black pilot flying a plane
Not remotely the context of what was said, he also said without DEI no one would ever question when they saw a minority pilot and would just assume they were fully qualified

• Taylor Swift should reject feminism and submit to her husband
A Christian woman should reject modern feminism which is evil and destructive for the woman, marriage and family

• If my 10 year old daughter was raped and got pregnant, I’d force her to carry her pregnancy to term. Millions of Americans agree with this because ITS NOT THE BABIES FAULT. 2 wrongs don't make a right and the baby can be given up for adoption or raised by the mother. I would rather punish the rapist than punish the baby.

• The Great Replacement Theory is reality
The left openly bragged for years that through their immigration polices white conservatives would become the minority. That is not a "theory" its a very well documented strategy by the left from the horses mouth.

• Hydroxychloroquine cures COVID
This drug was and is a very effective treatment for COVID. Hard to believe anyone is ignorant enough to still be arguing otherwise

• Guns deaths are acceptable in order to have a 2nd amendment
AGAIN, not the context of what was said. He said gun deaths are horrible but just as having cars kills many more people than guns, some liberties and rights also have horrible consequences but they do not outweigh the right and liberty.

• Women’s natural place is under their husband’s control
That is just straight up not what Charlie preached as a Biblical view. A man is head of household but the wife is NOT a slave for the husband.

• George Floyd had it coming
Floyd did have it coming becuase he tried to pass a counterfeit bill, had massive OD levels of fentanyl in his system and resisted arrest. He has no one to blame but himself

• The 1964 Civil Rights Act was a "huge mistake"
Again, not the context of what was said. Charlie did not argue blacks should not have equal rights, he argued instead of giving equal rights the 1964 act put them in permanent poverty and government control by subsidizing single motherhood over the nuclear family.

• Palestine "doesn’t exist" and those who support it are like the KKK
There has NEVER been a nation of Palestine in human history, Though Israel and the UN have offered to recognize one countless times since 1948 but the Palestinians have refused over and over and over again.

Source: Charlie Kirk tweets, podcast appearances and speeches

I could go on, but you get the gist of how dishonest this BS is.

This is what happens when you just copy paste BS from lying far left commie scumbags who live to dehumanize any Christian conservative in existence and never actually spend 5 seconds fact checking or listening to the actual conversations for yourself.

I doubt you remotely care that its just a bunch of lies. You are fine with that just as you are probably fine with what happened to Charlie.

(09-12-2025 01:33 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:44 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  • Most people are scared when they see a black pilot flying a plane
Not remotely the context of what was said, he also said without DEI no one would ever question when they say a minority pilot and would just assume they were fully qualified

• Taylor Swift should reject feminism and submit to her husband
A Christian woman should reject modern feminism which is evil and destructive for the woman, marriage and family

• If my 10 year old daughter was raped and got pregnant, I’d force her to carry her pregnancy to term. Millions of Americans agree with this because ITS NOT THE BABIES FAULT. 2 wrongs don't make a right and the baby can be given up for adoption or raise by the mother. I would rather punish the rapist that punish the baby.

• The Great Replacement Theory is reality
The left openly bragged for years that through their immigration polices white conservatives would become the minority. That is not a "theory" its a very well documented strategy by the left from the horses mouth.

• Hydroxychloroquine cures COVID
This drug was and is a very effective treatment for COVID. Hard to believe anyone is ignorant enough to still be arguing otherwise

• Guns deaths are acceptable in order to have a 2nd amendment
AGAIN, not the context of what was said. He said gun deaths are horrible but just as having cars kills many more people than guns, some liberties and rights also have horrible consequences but they do not outweigh the right and liberty.

• Women’s natural place is under their husband’s control
That is just straight up not what Charlie preached as a Biblical view. A man is head of household but the wife is NOT a slave for the husband.

• George Floyd had it coming
Floyd did have it coming becuase he tried to pass a counterfeit bill, had massive OD levels of fentanyl in his system and resist arrest. He has no one to blame but himself

• The 1964 Civil Rights Act was a "huge mistake"
Again, not the context of what was said. Charlie did not argue blacks should not have equal rights, he argued instead of giving equal rights the 1964 act put them in permanent poverty and government control by subsidizing single motherhood over the nuclear family.

• Palestine "doesn’t exist" and those who support it are like the KKK
There has NEVER been a nation of Palestine in human history, Though Israel and the UN have offered to recognize one countless times since 1948 but the Palestinians have refused over and over and over again.

Source: Charlie Kirk tweets, podcast appearances and speeches

I could go on, but you get the gist oh how dishonest this BS is.

This is what happens when you just copy paste BS from lying far left commie scumbags who live to dehumanize any Christiain conservative in existence and never actually spend 5 seconds fact checking or listening to the actual conversions for yourself.

Yep. PREACH, BROTHER!

The fact that they are compiling these bogus/out of context lists of things the said, is simply for one reason and one reason only. They believe that he deserved to be killed. They can play word games all day, but the fact is they are celebrating his death. Some more openly than others.

(09-12-2025 01:41 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  The fact that they are compiling these bogus/out of context lists of things the said, is simply for one reason and one reason only. They believe that he deserved to be killed. They can play word games all day, but the fact is they are celebrating his death. Some more openly than others.

Yep, it's not the loud bodacious singing and gleeful videos, but it's an attempt to justify it.

(09-12-2025 01:33 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:44 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  • Most people are scared when they see a black pilot flying a plane
Not remotely the context of what was said, he also said without DEI no one would ever question when they saw a minority pilot and would just assume they were fully qualified

• Taylor Swift should reject feminism and submit to her husband
A Christian woman should reject modern feminism which is evil and destructive for the woman, marriage and family

• If my 10 year old daughter was raped and got pregnant, I’d force her to carry her pregnancy to term. Millions of Americans agree with this because ITS NOT THE BABIES FAULT. 2 wrongs don't make a right and the baby can be given up for adoption or raise by the mother. I would rather punish the rapist that punish the baby.

• The Great Replacement Theory is reality
The left openly bragged for years that through their immigration polices white conservatives would become the minority. That is not a "theory" its a very well documented strategy by the left from the horses mouth.

• Hydroxychloroquine cures COVID
This drug was and is a very effective treatment for COVID. Hard to believe anyone is ignorant enough to still be arguing otherwise

• Guns deaths are acceptable in order to have a 2nd amendment
AGAIN, not the context of what was said. He said gun deaths are horrible but just as having cars kills many more people than guns, some liberties and rights also have horrible consequences but they do not outweigh the right and liberty.

• Women’s natural place is under their husband’s control
That is just straight up not what Charlie preached as a Biblical view. A man is head of household but the wife is NOT a slave for the husband.

• George Floyd had it coming
Floyd did have it coming becuase he tried to pass a counterfeit bill, had massive OD levels of fentanyl in his system and resisted arrest. He has no one to blame but himself

• The 1964 Civil Rights Act was a "huge mistake"
Again, not the context of what was said. Charlie did not argue blacks should not have equal rights, he argued instead of giving equal rights the 1964 act put them in permanent poverty and government control by subsidizing single motherhood over the nuclear family.

• Palestine "doesn’t exist" and those who support it are like the KKK
There has NEVER been a nation of Palestine in human history, Though Israel and the UN have offered to recognize one countless times since 1948 but the Palestinians have refused over and over and over again.

Source: Charlie Kirk tweets, podcast appearances and speeches

I could go on, but you get the gist of how dishonest this BS is.

This is what happens when you just copy paste BS from lying far left commie scumbags who live to dehumanize any Christian conservative in existence and never actually spend 5 seconds fact checking or listening to the actual conversions for yourself.

I doubt you remotely care that its just a bunch of lies. You are fine with that just as you are problaby fine with what happened to Charlie.

Wish you guys wouldn't have done that. CTL made these claims. The burden was on him to provide the sourcing. He failed to provide it so no response was necessary nor deserved.

(09-12-2025 12:07 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:57 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(09-11-2025 09:01 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The coward will likely kill himself first. He has earned what he has coming to him in eternity.

Jesus made clear the tormet in hell is different for each person based on what they knew and what they did. For some it will be light, for others excruciating.

He has earned his special place for killing God's faithful servant, Charlie Kirk.

Remember the Apostle Paul had several Christians murdered

So, even for this plague there is still hope

Even though most don’t want to accept it

Jeff Dahmer was baptized right before he was killed and if his heart was right with God his sins were washed away

People believe they can say the magic words and be absolved. That's not how it works. God looks into the heart of those who confess and sees the truth of it or sees another intent behind it. God does forgive the repentant. I don't think that applies to those who lie to themselves and God to feel better. "If you are faithful and just to confess your sins then God is faithful and just to forgive them." Only God knows when a person is both faithful and just or simply fooling themselves and maybe others. Maybe Dahmer was forgiven or maybe he wasn't. That's not for you or me to say, but only God, through the one appointed to decide, Christ.

People are commanded to discern, which means knowing people by what we see them do and the fruit of their actions. We are commanded not to judge, which means deciding what a person is like based only upon what we have heard.

The former is so we are aware of dangers and snares. The latter is to prevent us from condemning the innocent.

Exactly only God and Jesus knows who truly is remorseful and wants to make amends.

It is the reason Nicodemus was allowed to sit at the same table with Christ when others whispered in dissent

(09-12-2025 07:39 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Leofrucked

FIFY

(09-12-2025 12:03 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The leftist garbage are going hard on the FAFO this week

Someone did a horrible job hiring SS agents. Just totally wrong mindset. And don’t say it was deliberate. They would get their own side killed too.

(09-12-2025 12:48 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  All of those statements he listed are out of context

And the poster didn’t say where he cut and pasted that from

(09-12-2025 01:06 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:44 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:34 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I fear Charlie will not be the last martyr for the principals [sic] he advocated.

Hard to say, but he did have some pretty radical principles as far as the left is concerned. There's plenty of tape on him out there.

Do you have any examples of his radical principles? Serious, not trolling. I don't know much about him.

• Most people are scared when they see a black pilot flying a plane

• Taylor Swift should reject feminism and submit to her husband

• No one should be allowed to retire

• Leftists should not be allowed to move to red states

• British Colonialism was what "made the world decent"

• The guy who assaulted the Pelosi's should be bailed out

• Religious freedom should be terminated

• Multiple black politicians "stole white people’s spots"

• MLK Jr was "an awful person"

• If my 10 year old daughter was raped and got pregnant, I’d force her to carry her pregnancy to term.

• The Great Replacement Theory is reality

• Hydroxychloroquine cures COVID

• Vaccine requirements are "medical apartheid"

• Guns deaths are acceptable in order to have a 2nd amendment

• Women’s natural place is under their husband’s control

• Parents should prevent their daughters from taking birth control

• George Floyd had it coming, the Jan 6th protestors didn’t

• The 1964 Civil Rights Act was a "huge mistake"

• Encouraged parents to protest mask mandates

• Mamdani winning in NY was a travesty because Muslims did 9/11

• Muslims only come to America to destabilize Western Civilization

• Palestine "doesn’t exist" and those who support it are like the KKK

Source: Charlie Kirk tweets, podcast appearances and speeches

Per AI, here is context to your statements.

1. Most people are scared when they see a black pilot flying a plane,
In a 2023 discussion following a plane-helicopter collision, Kirk said: "If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'" This aligns with the sentiment, implying doubt about Black pilots' competence due to diversity initiatives.

2. Taylor Swift should reject feminism and submit to her husband
On August 26, 2025, during The Charlie Kirk Show, Kirk reacted to Swift's engagement by saying: "Engage in reality more. Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor."

3. No one should be allowed to retire
Kirk stated: "I'm not a fan of retirement. I don't think retirement is biblical," and advocated raising the retirement age for those under 45, calling retirement a "waste" of God's gifts.

3. Leftists should not be allowed to move to red states
No direct evidence found. Kirk criticized leftists influencing red states but did not explicitly call for barring their movement.

4. British Colonialism was what "made the world decent"
On his show, Kirk interviewed Bruce Gilley and stated: "British colonialism actually made the world decent," calling it "the most benign global empire ever."

5. The guy who assaulted the Pelosi's should be bailed out
Following the 2022 attack on Paul Pelosi, Kirk tweeted: "Shouldn't Paul Pelosi's attacker be released on cashless bail?" and suggested a "patriot" should bail him out to "ask him some questions."

6. Religious freedom should be terminated
No, Kirk was a strong advocate for religious freedom, particularly Christian nationalism. He criticized restrictions on churches during COVID as "persecution" but never called for terminating it.

7. Multiple black politicians "stole white people’s spots"
In 2023, Kirk said of Black women like Joy Reid and Michelle Obama: "You had to go steal a white person’s slot to... be taken somewhat seriously," attributing their success to affirmative action.

8. MLK Jr was "an awful person"
At Turning Point USA's America Fest in 2023, Kirk said: "MLK was awful. He's not a good person."

9. If my 10 year old daughter was raped and got pregnant, I’d force her to carry her pregnancy to term
In a debate, when asked about a 10-year-old daughter being raped and pregnant, Kirk replied: "The answer is yes, the baby would be delivered."

10. The Great Replacement Theory is reality
Kirk repeatedly stated: "The 'Great Replacement' is not a theory, it's a reality," citing border crossings as evidence of deliberate demographic change.

11. Hydroxychloroquine cures COVID
Kirk tweeted that hydroxychloroquine was "100% effective in treating the virus," leading to a temporary Twitter ban. This was

12. Vaccine requirements are "medical apartheid"
On Tucker Carlson Tonight in 2021, Kirk said: "We are going to give everything we have to make sure that students are not going to have to live in a medical apartheid because they don't want to get the vaccine."

13. Guns deaths are acceptable in order to have a 2nd amendment
At a 2023 TPUSA event, Kirk said: "It's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."

14. Women’s natural place is under their husband’s control
At the 2022 TPUSA Young Women's Leadership Summit, Kirk described the "biblical model" for women as pursuing a husband who is "a protector and a leader," implying subordination.

15. Parents should prevent their daughters from taking birth control
At the 2022 summit, Kirk claimed birth control makes women "angry and bitter," linking it to Democratic leanings and implying parents should discourage it to promote traditional roles.

16. George Floyd had it coming, the Jan 6th protestors didn’t
Kirk called Floyd a "scumbag" and denied police responsibility, saying his death was due to an "overdose." He organized buses for Jan. 6 participants and defended them as "patriots," contrasting with his view of Floyd.

17. The 1964 Civil Rights Act was a "huge mistake"
At America Fest 2023, Kirk said: "We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s," calling it an "anti-white weapon."

18. Encouraged parents to protest mask mandates
Kirk called for parents to "stand up and push back against mask-wearing" at school board meetings and decried mandates as a "Democratic plot against Christianity."


19. Mamdani winning in NY was a travesty because Muslims did 9/11
After Zohran Mamdani's 2025 NYC mayoral primary win, Kirk tweeted: "24 years ago a group of Muslims killed 2,753 people on 9/11. Now a Muslim Socialist is on pace to run New York City," implying a travesty.

20. Muslims only come to America to destabilize Western Civilization
Kirk stated: "It’s not Islamophobia to notice that Muslims want to import values into the West that seek to destabilize our civilization," and claimed Islam has "conquest values" incompatible with the West.

21. Palestine "doesn’t exist" and those who support it are like the KKK
Kirk questioned Palestine's existence in debates, e.g., justifying Israel's actions by saying: "When you declare war on Israel, expect a firestorm." The KKK comparison was made by Jerry Seinfeld on Kirk's show, not Kirk himself; misattribution common online.

I do not agree with Charlie on every issue, but I do not want him killed because his view differs from mine.

In your opinion, was his killing justified?

Some of those things are unquestionably true

(09-12-2025 01:45 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 01:33 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:44 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  • Most people are scared when they see a black pilot flying a plane
Not remotely the context of what was said, he also said without DEI no one would ever question when they saw a minority pilot and would just assume they were fully qualified

• Taylor Swift should reject feminism and submit to her husband
A Christian woman should reject modern feminism which is evil and destructive for the woman, marriage and family

• If my 10 year old daughter was raped and got pregnant, I’d force her to carry her pregnancy to term. Millions of Americans agree with this because ITS NOT THE BABIES FAULT. 2 wrongs don't make a right and the baby can be given up for adoption or raise by the mother. I would rather punish the rapist that punish the baby.

• The Great Replacement Theory is reality
The left openly bragged for years that through their immigration polices white conservatives would become the minority. That is not a "theory" its a very well documented strategy by the left from the horses mouth.

• Hydroxychloroquine cures COVID
This drug was and is a very effective treatment for COVID. Hard to believe anyone is ignorant enough to still be arguing otherwise

• Guns deaths are acceptable in order to have a 2nd amendment
AGAIN, not the context of what was said. He said gun deaths are horrible but just as having cars kills many more people than guns, some liberties and rights also have horrible consequences but they do not outweigh the right and liberty.

• Women’s natural place is under their husband’s control
That is just straight up not what Charlie preached as a Biblical view. A man is head of household but the wife is NOT a slave for the husband.

• George Floyd had it coming
Floyd did have it coming becuase he tried to pass a counterfeit bill, had massive OD levels of fentanyl in his system and resisted arrest. He has no one to blame but himself

• The 1964 Civil Rights Act was a "huge mistake"
Again, not the context of what was said. Charlie did not argue blacks should not have equal rights, he argued instead of giving equal rights the 1964 act put them in permanent poverty and government control by subsidizing single motherhood over the nuclear family.

• Palestine "doesn’t exist" and those who support it are like the KKK
There has NEVER been a nation of Palestine in human history, Though Israel and the UN have offered to recognize one countless times since 1948 but the Palestinians have refused over and over and over again.

Source: Charlie Kirk tweets, podcast appearances and speeches

I could go on, but you get the gist of how dishonest this BS is.

This is what happens when you just copy paste BS from lying far left commie scumbags who live to dehumanize any Christian conservative in existence and never actually spend 5 seconds fact checking or listening to the actual conversions for yourself.

I doubt you remotely care that its just a bunch of lies. You are fine with that just as you are problaby fine with what happened to Charlie.

Wish you guys wouldn't have done that. CTL made these claims. The burden was on him to provide the sourcing. He failed to provide it so no response was necessary nor deserved.

I really think you would not have had a reply from CTL.

(09-12-2025 01:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 01:11 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:34 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I fear Charlie will not be the last martyr for the principals [sic] he advocated.

Hard to say, but he did have some pretty radical principles as far as the left is concerned. There's plenty of tape on him out there.

In your opinion, was his killing justified?

**** no.

I am relieved to read this. Most Democrats do not agree with you. In an April 2025 poll, 55% of self-identified left-of-center respondents said that murdering Trump was at least somewhat justified. The actual figure is likely higher, as some may hesitate to openly express a desire to kill.

Dem's bear some responsibility for the targeting of people they disagree with through their justification of political violence and inflammatory rhetoric. When Dem's, especially those in prominent positions, say things like "Trump is Hitler," call his voters fascists, or claim the very foundation of our country is under threat, it spurs impressionable people to take up arms to eliminate a perceived tyrant. This must stop. Because I do not believe in censorship except for direct threats of violence, I think it is the responsibility of Democrats to tone down their rhetoric. Dem's should explicitly condemn political violence and support policies to prevent it. Otherwise, more killings are almost certain to follow.

(09-12-2025 02:32 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 01:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 01:11 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 11:34 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I fear Charlie will not be the last martyr for the principals [sic] he advocated.

Hard to say, but he did have some pretty radical principles as far as the left is concerned. There's plenty of tape on him out there.

In your opinion, was his killing justified?

**** no.

I am relieved to read this. Most Democrats do not agree with you. In an April 2025 poll, 55% of self-identified left-of-center respondents said that murdering Trump was at least somewhat justified. The actual figure is likely higher, as some may hesitate to openly express a desire to kill.

Dem's bear some responsibility for the targeting of people they disagree with through their justification of political violence and inflammatory rhetoric. When Dem's, especially those in prominent positions, say things like "Trump is Hitler," call his voters fascists, or claim the very foundation of our country is under threat, it spurs impressionable people to take up arms to eliminate a perceived tyrant. This must stop. Because I do not believe in censorship except for direct threats of violence, I think it is the responsibility of Democrats to tone down their rhetoric. Dem's should explicitly condemn political violence and support policies to prevent it. Otherwise, more killings are almost certain to follow.

I would never advocate for the murder of trump. That'd be much too easy a fate for him, not to mention make him another sad excuse for a martyr of the right. Living out the rest of his life in a jail cell would be the way I'd like to see him go.

But if you don't think trump himself...as well as firebrands like Kirk...contribute their share of inflammatory rhetoric, I have to question your judgement.

Well, you've proven time and again that your judgement sucks, Tom.

(09-12-2025 02:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I would never advocate for the murder of trump. That'd be much too easy a fate for him, not to mention make him another sad excuse for a martyr of the right. Living out the rest of his life in a jail cell would be the way I'd like to see him go.

Jail for what? Leftists not liking him? If and when the clowns on the left can find an actual CRIME that he has committed (not the made up bargage they tried to pin on him under Biden) then take your best shot.

(09-12-2025 02:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  But if you don't think trump himself...as well as firebrands like Kirk...contribute their share of inflammatory rhetoric, I have to question your judgement.

The left can sure dish it out but when the other side responds in kind, call the waaaambulance.

Rhetoric is rhetoric. Has it gone too far? Probably. Maybe you can go check out Jasmine Crockett's take on it. It seems to align with yours.

(09-12-2025 02:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 02:32 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 01:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 01:11 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Hard to say, but he did have some pretty radical principles as far as the left is concerned. There's plenty of tape on him out there.

In your opinion, was his killing justified?

**** no.

I am relieved to read this. Most Democrats do not agree with you. In an April 2025 poll, 55% of self-identified left-of-center respondents said that murdering Trump was at least somewhat justified. The actual figure is likely higher, as some may hesitate to openly express a desire to kill.

Dem's bear some responsibility for the targeting of people they disagree with through their justification of political violence and inflammatory rhetoric. When Dem's, especially those in prominent positions, say things like "Trump is Hitler," call his voters fascists, or claim the very foundation of our country is under threat, it spurs impressionable people to take up arms to eliminate a perceived tyrant. This must stop. Because I do not believe in censorship except for direct threats of violence, I think it is the responsibility of Democrats to tone down their rhetoric. Dem's should explicitly condemn political violence and support policies to prevent it. Otherwise, more killings are almost certain to follow.

I would never advocate for the murder of trump. That'd be much too easy a fate for him, not to mention make him another sad excuse for a martyr of the right. Living out the rest of his life in a jail cell would be the way I'd like to see him go.

But if you don't think trump himself...as well as firebrands like Kirk...contribute their share of inflammatory rhetoric, I have to question your judgement.

I call BS. From the moment Kirk got shot, you went into attack mode. You were happy Kirk was murdered and you'd be ecstatic if Trump met the same fate. Even in this reply to his question, you polish it off with "firebrand like Kirk" and "inflammatory rhetoric". You are a fool, and moreso a liar. As a wise man once said...Prog Filth.

(09-12-2025 02:02 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 01:06 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Per AI, here is context to your statements.

1. Most people are scared when they see a black pilot flying a plane,
In a 2023 discussion following a plane-helicopter collision, Kirk said: "If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'" This aligns with the sentiment, implying doubt about Black pilots' competence due to diversity initiatives.

2. Taylor Swift should reject feminism and submit to her husband
On August 26, 2025, during The Charlie Kirk Show, Kirk reacted to Swift's engagement by saying: "Engage in reality more. Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor."

3. No one should be allowed to retire
Kirk stated: "I'm not a fan of retirement. I don't think retirement is biblical," and advocated raising the retirement age for those under 45, calling retirement a "waste" of God's gifts.

3. Leftists should not be allowed to move to red states
No direct evidence found. Kirk criticized leftists influencing red states but did not explicitly call for barring their movement.

4. British Colonialism was what "made the world decent"
On his show, Kirk interviewed Bruce Gilley and stated: "British colonialism actually made the world decent," calling it "the most benign global empire ever."

5. The guy who assaulted the Pelosi's should be bailed out
Following the 2022 attack on Paul Pelosi, Kirk tweeted: "Shouldn't Paul Pelosi's attacker be released on cashless bail?" and suggested a "patriot" should bail him out to "ask him some questions."

6. Religious freedom should be terminated
No, Kirk was a strong advocate for religious freedom, particularly Christian nationalism. He criticized restrictions on churches during COVID as "persecution" but never called for terminating it.

7. Multiple black politicians "stole white people’s spots"
In 2023, Kirk said of Black women like Joy Reid and Michelle Obama: "You had to go steal a white person’s slot to... be taken somewhat seriously," attributing their success to affirmative action.

8. MLK Jr was "an awful person"
At Turning Point USA's America Fest in 2023, Kirk said: "MLK was awful. He's not a good person."

9. If my 10 year old daughter was raped and got pregnant, I’d force her to carry her pregnancy to term
In a debate, when asked about a 10-year-old daughter being raped and pregnant, Kirk replied: "The answer is yes, the baby would be delivered."

10. The Great Replacement Theory is reality
Kirk repeatedly stated: "The 'Great Replacement' is not a theory, it's a reality," citing border crossings as evidence of deliberate demographic change.

11. Hydroxychloroquine cures COVID
Kirk tweeted that hydroxychloroquine was "100% effective in treating the virus," leading to a temporary Twitter ban. This was

12. Vaccine requirements are "medical apartheid"
On Tucker Carlson Tonight in 2021, Kirk said: "We are going to give everything we have to make sure that students are not going to have to live in a medical apartheid because they don't want to get the vaccine."

13. Guns deaths are acceptable in order to have a 2nd amendment
At a 2023 TPUSA event, Kirk said: "It's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."

14. Women’s natural place is under their husband’s control
At the 2022 TPUSA Young Women's Leadership Summit, Kirk described the "biblical model" for women as pursuing a husband who is "a protector and a leader," implying subordination.

15. Parents should prevent their daughters from taking birth control
At the 2022 summit, Kirk claimed birth control makes women "angry and bitter," linking it to Democratic leanings and implying parents should discourage it to promote traditional roles.

16. George Floyd had it coming, the Jan 6th protestors didn’t
Kirk called Floyd a "scumbag" and denied police responsibility, saying his death was due to an "overdose." He organized buses for Jan. 6 participants and defended them as "patriots," contrasting with his view of Floyd.

17. The 1964 Civil Rights Act was a "huge mistake"
At America Fest 2023, Kirk said: "We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s," calling it an "anti-white weapon."

18. Encouraged parents to protest mask mandates
Kirk called for parents to "stand up and push back against mask-wearing" at school board meetings and decried mandates as a "Democratic plot against Christianity."


19. Mamdani winning in NY was a travesty because Muslims did 9/11
After Zohran Mamdani's 2025 NYC mayoral primary win, Kirk tweeted: "24 years ago a group of Muslims killed 2,753 people on 9/11. Now a Muslim Socialist is on pace to run New York City," implying a travesty.

20. Muslims only come to America to destabilize Western Civilization
Kirk stated: "It’s not Islamophobia to notice that Muslims want to import values into the West that seek to destabilize our civilization," and claimed Islam has "conquest values" incompatible with the West.

21. Palestine "doesn’t exist" and those who support it are like the KKK
Kirk questioned Palestine's existence in debates, e.g., justifying Israel's actions by saying: "When you declare war on Israel, expect a firestorm." The KKK comparison was made by Jerry Seinfeld on Kirk's show, not Kirk himself; misattribution common online.

I do not agree with Charlie on every issue, but I do not want him killed because his view differs from mine.

In your opinion, was his killing justified?

Some of those things are unquestionably true

I already liked Charlie Kirk, Tiger. You don't have to convince me further.

(09-12-2025 01:27 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 01:23 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:44 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-12-2025 12:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Hard to say, but he did have some pretty radical principles as far as the left is concerned. There's plenty of tape on him out there.

Do you have any examples of his radical principles? Serious, not trolling. I don't know much about him.

• Most people are scared when they see a black pilot flying a plane

• Taylor Swift should reject feminism and submit to her husband

• No one should be allowed to retire

• Leftists should not be allowed to move to red states

• British Colonialism was what "made the world decent"

• The guy who assaulted the Pelosi's should be bailed out

• Religious freedom should be terminated

• Multiple black politicians "stole white people’s spots"

• MLK Jr was "an awful person"

• If my 10 year old daughter was raped and got pregnant, I’d force her to carry her pregnancy to term.

• The Great Replacement Theory is reality

• Hydroxychloroquine cures COVID

• Vaccine requirements are "medical apartheid"

• Guns deaths are acceptable in order to have a 2nd amendment

• Women’s natural place is under their husband’s control

• Parents should prevent their daughters from taking birth control

• George Floyd had it coming, the Jan 6th protestors didn’t

• The 1964 Civil Rights Act was a "huge mistake"

• Encouraged parents to protest mask mandates

• Mamdani winning in NY was a travesty because Muslims did 9/11

• Muslims only come to America to destabilize Western Civilization

• Palestine "doesn’t exist" and those who support it are like the KKK

Source: Charlie Kirk tweets, podcast appearances and speeches

Dame Ole copy paste from leftist memes that have zero context and have been debunked over and over.

Pathetically retarded Fat Tom

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Well, if I was, I'd certainly rather be "fat" than a total ignorant clown like you.

Any time any place, ill live stream a debate with you, Charlie Kirk, style for the members of this board.

Say when retard



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