(09-10-2025 08:47 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 08:38 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 08:34 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:53 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:47 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  Go back to BlueSky.
Bluesky Leftists Mock and Celebrate Assassination of Charlie Kirk — ‘Going Directly to Hell’

The irony is Charlie is absolutely in heaven with His Lord and Savior at this very moment. He was as genuine of a true believer in the entire politician spectrum and shared the Gospel more often than anything else.

And where does everyone think those God hating, Christian hating, Bible hating loons of BlueSky are headed at 1000mph?

Eric, let them run down the highway to hell. I don't see how any conservative Christian can continue to pray for the left after today. Why would you pray for people who hate you and want you dead? Charlie Kirk probably did and look what happened.

Andy, the reason you pray for them is so Christ can soften their hardened heart, which means they let Him in. By doing that, we're praying that they see the error in their ways, accept Christ as their Lord and Savior, and repent from their sins so they can live a Christ-like life. Remember, Christian essentially means "Christ-like".

It doesn't look like they're going to change any time soon, GC. They're quadrupling down as we speak.

Well, as long as I'm alive, I'm going to pray for them. All of them. Heck, all of us, too, because I'm not better than anybody else. We're all sinners. I'm just saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. I don't always talk about it; and I get pretty heated where I do insult people to a degree and use foul language, but I'm a Christian. I need to act like one a lot more often, which also includes telling the truth through God's eyes as I see it.

You've got to have faith, Andy. It's hard sometimes, but it's not impossible. Love ya, my brother.

I’ll pray for them too. They won’t much like it if my prayer is answered though.

(09-10-2025 08:33 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:ERIC TRUMP ON CHARLIE KIRK: "'I'm SICK AND TIRED of seeing the bullets—they are only going one way!

First it was my father, then you saw what they tried to do to Kavanaugh, to Steve Scalise. Now they just KlLLED Charlie Kirk."

"When is there accountability from MSNBC and NBC and everybody else who just fosters this hate EVERY SINGLE DAY, including today, right after that incredible man right there was kiIIed? It's ENOUGH!"

But muh both sides use rhetoric.

Prog filth are intolerant violent lunatics.

Things were bad after Trump's assassination attempt, but as a politcal figure who the left have hated for so long I hated it but at least had an objective understanding of it.

Then the killing of the insurance guy, I started to see how the left was loosening the definition of symbolic causes of suffering. No doubt that guy oversaw and probably made some business decisions that caused suffering, but he was a cog in a multi-billion dollar machine.

This though. I have not been this sickened by the general population in a very long time. Even if you didn't agree with Charlie, even if he said some things you felt were incompassionate, he was just a guy that went around trying to engage people in political conversations at colleges. There is nothing to celebrate here. I have read comments on facebook from 2nd degree friends saying there are always going to be casualties in revolutions. This is ******* madness and it has to stop. We used to be a country that bitched and sulked for a couple years when our team lost in the election but it just drove people to try harder the next go around.

I did not agree with what alot of Charlie said, but I still probably watched 10-15 minutes of his clips every day just because I enjoyed how he interacted with people even it was clear he thought they were idiots. There is no reason why he should have been murdered.

I don't post on facebook very often, but I put this out today. This week will be a turning point in the history of our country just like the George Floyd protests. The events in Charlotte and Utah will not go unanswered. The left always screams about oppression and persecution while the right silently has been taking hit after hit. I pray for peace, but I do fear an escalation in violence is coming.

Political violence against anyone in this country is unacceptable. I know the name but wasn't super familiar with Mr. Kirk, but I'm we disagreed on most issues. But we certainly would agree he had the right to appear on that campus today and safely present his point of view. My thoughts and prayers are with his friends and family tonight following this horrific assassination.

(09-10-2025 09:20 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  Political violence against anyone in this country is unacceptable. I know the name but wasn't super familiar with Mr. Kirk, but I'm we disagreed on most issues. But we certainly would agree he had the right to appear on that campus today and safely present his point of view. My thoughts and prayers are with his friends and family tonight following this horrific assassination.

Thank you for that, Gamenole. You're a lot classier than most of the leftists who posted in the thread.

He doesn’t mean it

(09-10-2025 11:01 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

Well, there's your talking point for the day. How did they know to have it scripted? Was it prepared for the next incident and pre0rehearsed? The division of this nation into factions has been carefully orchestrated and has been in preparation since Obama. And it plays in perfectly with Maoist philosophy for defeating the melting pot West. Lenin's theory of class struggle doesn't work with a large middle class. Racial tensions and hatred had to be fed to get it and that's Chairman Mao's playbook. And foreign trading power has worked closely with the Dems? In Trump's words, "Chi----nah!"

(09-10-2025 06:17 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:09 PM)Frank Grimes Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:39 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:35 PM)Frank Grimes Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 05:30 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  This is a man that argued that the people being killed from gun violence is a necessary cost.

This is the only developed country that has such a sad amount of shootings because whenever these shootings happen people like Kirk always rush to say thoughts and prayers but also that the deaths are worth not changing our gun laws. If it wasn't for people like Kirk he might still be alive today and his kids might still have a dad.

Utah passed a law to allow open carry on college campuses less than a month ago. Would it have been so easy for this shooter to kill Kirk if he couldn't be openly carrying a gun on UV's campus today? Will Utah reconsider its new law that already helped one murderer or will Utah's lawmakers just say thoughts and prayers and move on?

This is also a man that was not sympathetic at all about the shootings of Melissa Hortman and John Hoffman in July. When that shooting happened he rushed to blame Tim Walz.

I expect this post to be met with people reporting me, trying to ban me and maybe even hoping to censor the words I typed along with claims of me being hateful, evil, and whatever else, but think back to when Paul Pelosi was attacked in his own home. Kirk decided to push the right wing conspiracy that Pelosi and the random assailant man were gay lovers and that someone should pay the bail of the criminal. So as long as someone is not accusing Kirk of actually being gay lovers with his murderer then they are are higher moral grounds than the grounds of which Kirk lived his life.

Are you actually justifying him being killed?

Again, I disagreed with Kirk on most things, but I’m not gonna justify his death. You make change by convincing people why you think they’re wrong, not violence.

Justifying? No.

Pointing out that he spent his life working to make sure murders like this kept happening? Yes.



And I don't care for any moral outrage because again remember that as long as someone is not accusing Kirk of actually being gay lovers with his murderer then they are are higher moral grounds than the grounds of which he lived his life.

What happened to Kirk is horrific. Just like what happened in Minnesota a couple months ago was horrific. Trump nearly getting assassinated is horrific. Or Pelosi’s husband getting assaulted. Political violence just shows how intellectually weak someone is.

You aren’t bringing anyone to your side of the argument when you say, “he did this to himself”. You’re just causing more division and hatred. If you can just ignore a father/husband/son dying with no sympathy, seek help.

Half of what I have said is quoting or referencing what Kirk said himself. Yet by quoting him and acting nowhere near as disrespectful as he did in life I'm being divisive? Does that say anything about his rhetoric?

It is very odd to be okay with everything Kirk said when other people were attacked or killed, but upset by what I am saying. I'm just pointing out that he was killed by laws he fought for. Other people have been killed by the same laws and other people will continue to be killed by them. It's easy to view those deaths as "necessary" like this person did when they are faceless statics. Yet when they are personal or parasocial people feel differently.

This sociopath really believes anyone is listening to his lunacy

Here are some facts for you to chew on because it’s obvious a box of rocks has more sense and wherewithal than you ever will. Man, talk about a waste of good oxygen

Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot & Mao all agree with you about gun control.

Let that sink in to your Neanderthal skull.

This equates to possibly 100 million deaths from tyrants

People kill people not guns

Ban the drones next as they will be the new weapon of choice

The idiocy will never stop

Be accountable as an adult

Stop trying to police people and take away every freedom left

Clown world must’ve had an escapee

The most terrifying force of death, comes from the hands of men who wanted to be left alone. They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love. They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know, that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over.

The moment the men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the men who just wanted to be left alone.

Alexandr Solzhenitsyn

(09-10-2025 11:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 11:01 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

Well, there's your talking point for the day. How did they know to have it scripted? Was it prepared for the next incident and pre0rehearsed? The division of this nation into factions has been carefully orchestrated and has been in preparation since Obama. And it plays in perfectly with Maoist philosophy for defeating the melting pot West. Lenin's theory of class struggle doesn't work with a large middle class. Racial tensions and hatred had to be fed to get it and that's Chairman Mao's playbook. And foreign trading power has worked closely with the Dems? In Trump's words, "Chi----nah!"

Not more than 5 minutes after news broke, MSNBC was criticizing Utah's constitutional carry laws.

Here is what is really important. More important than arguing about which kind of gun is in a photo...

Quote:JUST IN: FBI Director Kash Patel says the person they took into custody for the assassination of Charlie Kirk has been RELEASED.

"The subject in custody has been released after an interrogation by law enforcement. Our investigation continues and we will continue to release information in interest of transparency."

This is crazy. They arrested one old man, said it wasn't him, arrested another, and it's not him.

Going back to the earlier posts on this. We(meaning the general public) have to stop latching on to everything that comes across social media. The old guy that was originally arrested is still being blasted across social media and while his life isn't over like Charlie's it likely will never be the same. This modern age demand for instant news has lead to an uprising of people willing to deliver that instant news regardless of it's accuracy.

(09-11-2025 12:29 AM)bobdizole Wrote:  Going back to the earlier posts on this. We(meaning the general public) have to stop latching on to everything that comes across social media. The old guy that was originally arrested is still being blasted across social media and while his life isn't over like Charlie's it likely will never be the same. This modern age demand for instant news has lead to an uprising of people willing to deliver that instant news regardless of it's accuracy.

With AI even an alleged live television feed can be altered. The ability to lie to the public is now at levels of which never before were conceived. When an image overwhelms the emotions, the mind misses so many details that may have even been seen. I've always harbored doubts about the kid patsy in Pennsylvania. The officials told us where to look, but snipers are usually not seen though an unwitting decoy may be there to draw attention away from the actual shooter. At 200 yards and at elevation this shooter had to account for distance, bullet droppage, and wind. IOW, he had to be trained to make that precise of a shot over a crowd and hitting his target with one shot. The anti-gun news out within minutes of the shooting blaming the state of Utah's laws, is suspicious as hell. Nobody thinks that up in an unfolding crisis. Just my opinion but one which needs to be thought about.

JD is part of the legacy Charlie leaves with our country. Here's an outstanding tribute from the VP

Quote:A while ago, probably in 2017, I appeared on Tucker Carlson's Fox show to talk about God knows what. Afterwards a name I barely knew sent me a DM on twitter and told me I did a great job. It was Charlie Kirk, and that moment of kindness began a friendship that lasted until today.

Charlie was fascinated by ideas and always willing to learn and change his mind. Like me, he was skeptical of Donald Trump in 2016. Like me, he came to see President Trump as the only figure capable of moving American politics away from the globalism that had dominated for our entire lives. When others were right, he learned from them. When he was right--as he usually was--he was generous. With Charlie, the attitude was never, "I told you so." But: "welcome."

Charlie was one of the first people I called when I thought about running for senate in early 2021. I was interested but skeptical there was a pathway. We talked through everything, from the strategy to the fundraising to the grassroots of the movement he knew so well. He introduced me to some of the people who would run my campaign and also to Donald Trump Jr. "Like his dad, he's misunderstood. He's extremely smart, and very much on our wavelength." Don took a call from me because Charlie asked him too.

Long before I ever committed (even in my mind) to running, Charlie had me speak to his donors at a TPUSA event. He walked me around the room and introduced me. He gave me honest feedback on my remarks. He had no reason to do this, no expectation that I'd go anywhere. I was polling, at that point, well below 5 percent. He did it because we were friends, and because he was a good man.

When I became the VP nominee--something Charlie advocated for both in public and private--Charlie was there for me. I was so glad to be part of the president's team, but candidly surprised by the effect it had on our family. Our kids, especially our oldest, struggled with the attention and the constant presence of the protective detail. I felt this acute sense of guilt, that I had conscripted my kids into this life without getting their permission. And Charlie was constantly calling and texting, checking on our family and offering guidance and prayers. Some of our most successful events were organized not by the campaign, but by TPUSA. He wasn't just a thinker, he was a doer, turning big ideas into bigger events with thousands of activists. And after every event, he would give me a big hug, tell me he was praying for me, and ask me what he could do. "You focus on Wisconsin," he'd tell me. "Arizona is in the bag." And it was.

Charlie genuinely believed in and loved Jesus Christ. He had a profound faith. We used to argue about Catholicism and Protestantism and who was right about minor doctrinal questions. Because he loved God, he wanted to understand him.

Someone else pointed out that Charlie died doing what he loved: discussing ideas. He would go into these hostile crowds and answer their questions. If it was a friendly crowd, and a progressive asked a question to jeers from the audience, he'd encourage his fans to calm down and let everyone speak. He exemplified a foundational virtue of our Republic: the willingness to speak openly and debate ideas.

Charlie had an uncanny ability to know when to push the envelope and when to be more conventional. I've seen people attack him for years for being wrong on this or that issue publicly, never realizing that privately he was working to broaden the scope of acceptable debate.

He was a great family man. I was talking to President Trump in the Oval Office today, and he said, "I know he was a very good friend of yours." I nodded silently, and President Trump observed that Charlie really loved his family. The president was right. Charlie was so proud of Erika and the two kids. He was so happy to be a father. And he felt such gratitude for having found a woman of God with whom he could build a family.

Charlie Kirk was a true friend. The kind of guy you could say something to and know it would always stay with him. I am on more than a few group chats with Charlie and people he introduced me to over the years. We celebrate weddings and babies, bust each other's chops, and mourn the loss of loved ones. We talk about politics and policy and sports and life. These group chats include people at the very highest level of our government. They trusted him, loved him, and knew he'd always have their backs. And because he was a true friend ,you could instinctively trust the people Charlie introduced you to. So much of the success we've had in this administration traces directly to Charlie's ability to organize and convene. He didn't just help us win in 2024, he helped us staff the entire government.

I was in a meeting in the West Wing when those group chats started lighting up with people telling Charlie they were praying for him. And that's how I learned the news that my friend had been shot. I prayed a lot over the next hour, as first good news and then bad trickled in.

God didn't answer those prayers, and that's OK. He had other plans. And now that Charlie is in heaven, I'll ask him to talk to big man directly on behalf of his family, his friends, and the country he loved so dearly.

You ran a good race, my friend.

We've got it from here.