(09-10-2025 06:20 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 02:20 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 02:17 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Things are getting pretty wild in this country

As if a former president getting shot while running wasn’t enough?

I'm not super politically active. I couldn't have told you what Charlie Kirk was famous for, though if I had to guess I'd have said something to do with Conservatives. This situation is FAR different from an assassination or even attempted assassination of a past or current President, or even of a Presidential Candidate. From what little I've read on him today, it appears likely that Kirk created many enemies for himself. Things like a "professor watch list" whose members receive death threats and threats to their families? That's a very large number of potential suspects right there, assuming that with all the confusion out there they actually have not caught the real suspect ofc. Any of those profs at Utah St? How many trans kids are there at Utah St?

We can call this political violence, and tangentially it is, but it usually takes more than mean words to get somebody so angry that they wanna kill you. You don't see people gunning for Rubio or Vance, and with Trump I'm sure it had more to do with "he's the President from the wrong team" as we've seen throughout our history with nutjobs from both the right and left going after Presidents they disagreed with on policy. But you saw someone kill Kirk, a Republican who was, rightly or wrongly, demonized by the left, just as you saw someone attempt to kill Pelosi (or her husband in that case) b/c she was demonized by the right.

It's contemptible but predictable that so many here have used this tragic event to publicly proclaim and attempt to reinforce their preconceived notions about which "team" is right and which is wrong. I didn't follow any of the threads after the attempt on Trump's or Pelosi's lives, but I assume that those threads were similarly toxic. Go look in the mirror guys, if you use events like this to attempt to reinforce your political beliefs then YOU are part of the problem.

STFU and get out of here with your false equivalencies and strawman arguments.

(09-10-2025 07:05 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:20 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 02:20 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 02:17 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Things are getting pretty wild in this country

As if a former president getting shot while running wasn’t enough?

I'm not super politically active. I couldn't have told you what Charlie Kirk was famous for, though if I had to guess I'd have said something to do with Conservatives. This situation is FAR different from an assassination or even attempted assassination of a past or current President, or even of a Presidential Candidate. From what little I've read on him today, it appears likely that Kirk created many enemies for himself. Things like a "professor watch list" whose members receive death threats and threats to their families? That's a very large number of potential suspects right there, assuming that with all the confusion out there they actually have not caught the real suspect ofc. Any of those profs at Utah St? How many trans kids are there at Utah St?

We can call this political violence, and tangentially it is, but it usually takes more than mean words to get somebody so angry that they wanna kill you. You don't see people gunning for Rubio or Vance, and with Trump I'm sure it had more to do with "he's the President from the wrong team" as we've seen throughout our history with nutjobs from both the right and left going after Presidents they disagreed with on policy. But you saw someone kill Kirk, a Republican who was, rightly or wrongly, demonized by the left, just as you saw someone attempt to kill Pelosi (or her husband in that case) b/c she was demonized by the right.

It's contemptible but predictable that so many here have used this tragic event to publicly proclaim and attempt to reinforce their preconceived notions about which "team" is right and which is wrong. I didn't follow any of the threads after the attempt on Trump's or Pelosi's lives, but I assume that those threads were similarly toxic. Go look in the mirror guys, if you use events like this to attempt to reinforce your political beliefs then YOU are part of the problem.

STFU and get out of here with your false equivalencies and strawman arguments.

It’s stunning to watch people who “aren’t politically active” or even know much about Kirk, give an entire character analysis based off online conjecture. It’s the perfect summary of what America has devolved into. Disgusting remarks all over social media.

(09-10-2025 06:22 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:17 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:15 PM)mlb Wrote:  Get ******. Someone lost their life today, 2 kids lost a dad, and a wife lost the love of her life. Both parties are guilty of this rhetoric. One is more successful. You can bury your head. I've enjoyed Charlie Kirk's views and I follow him on X, even when I don't agree with him.

Are you reading what your beloved leftists are posting in this thread?

My beloved? I am not left. You guys just don't like that I don't think Trump is God and infallible.

No, we don't like that you find a way on every issue to remind us to examine it from both sides, even when the issue is cut and dried. Eff the other side, they have told us over and over and are now showing us over and over just who they are and what they want for this country, none of it good.

(09-10-2025 06:59 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  Since I saw I am going to be banned for saying the wrong words in here I was curious and I scrolled back to June. I looked at this thread from when Melissa Hortman was assassinated in a shooting in her home. It seems like a more politics talk was allow then for some reason. I wonder why. Most of the thread was allowed to be politics there.

(06-14-2025 08:29 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  A Trump supporter shooting two Democrats who just voted to revoke state benefits for illegal aliens? The same suspect who was found to have been carrying NO KINGS flyers in his car and was an appointee of two separate Democrat governors of the Land of 10,000 Lakes?

lolnope

(06-15-2025 06:05 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Tim Walz could take a gun, if he could load it, shoot half the Minnesota State legislature and Leftist would claim Walz was a Trump supporter.

Of course it’s sickening that Democrats look to assign political blame instead of condemning whoever is responsible. It’s happened time and time again.

If the shooter is white he’s a racist, if he’s black he’s lashing out at white oppression.
If a shooter kills an insurance CEO, he’s a hero.
If a shooter is transgender, we don’t talk about it and hide what they believe.

Rahm Emanuel said the quiet part out loud.
“Never let a crisis go to waste”

Leftists live by that mantra. Regardless who is responsible. They’ll figure out a way to blame it on political enemies. The weak minded will take to the streets to protest and tear up their own neighborhoods while the Leftist Legacy Lemmings in media will amplify the madness.

A year ago I would have laughed at 2nd Civil War talk. After the last few months of Leftist violence, if we continue on this path it seems inevitable.

(06-14-2025 08:59 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Well that's your 21st century democratic party.

Do what you're told... or we'll kill ya.

(06-15-2025 08:44 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(06-15-2025 01:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Good grief! Who cares? He killed 2 people. It doesn't matter if he's a 3-legged blind transgender giraffe.

Whole thread is trying to claim he is a democrat, suddenly when it comes out that he is an anti LGBT, anti abortion, Trump supporter you are all “who cares”.

Oh well. Maybe we'll learn to pass laws to stop these threads from happening so frequently. If not it would be interesting for those who are not banned to compare why different ones are treated differently.

You step into one pile of crap and then put your foot into another pile of crap. You must be new around this parts.

As of now the shooter is still on the loose. The second guy they arrested was just released. It wasnt him.

I’m curious what would Republicans think of launching a modern cointelpro? This was an operation by the FBI in the 1960s and early 70s aimed at breaking the back of radical leftist organizations and a few right ones. The FBI infiltrated, raided, and in some cases even potentially assassinated members of militant leftist groups large and small.

(09-10-2025 07:19 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Byron Donald would make a hell of a VP

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(09-10-2025 07:24 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  I’m curious what would Republicans think of launching a modern cointelpro? This was an operation by the FBI in the 1960s and early 70s aimed at breaking the back of radical leftist organizations and a few right ones. The FBI infiltrated, raided, and in some cases even potentially assassinated members of militant leftist groups large and small.

Wanna talk about it? Make a thread about it. Don't derail this one.

(09-10-2025 06:24 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:23 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 06:17 PM)ABAB_Up_down Wrote:  Half of what I have said is quoting or referencing what Kirk said himself. Yet by quoting him and acting nowhere near as disrespectful as he did in life I'm being divisive? Does that say anything about his rhetoric?

It is very odd to be okay with everything Kirk said when other people were attacked or killed, but upset by what I am saying. I'm just pointing out that he was killed by laws he fought for. Other people will continue to also die in random shooting if nothing is changed.

You people are just stuck on stupid.

Laws do not kill people, guns do not kill people. People kill people.

The simple presence of guns are not what trigger people to murder others. And as we have seen time and time and time again, if they want to kill and don't have a gin they will just make a bomb or drive into a crowd of people or do countless other things to satisfy their blood lust.

Guns very much do kill people. Killing things is actually the whole point of guns.

If I were to say "Atomic bombs don't kill people. People kill people. Everyone should have access to atomic bombs since it's not the bombs it's the people." Would you say "yeah that makes sense."? No you wouldn't say that? Why not?

None of my guns has ever done one thing on its own. They all sit in my reinforced gun closet, many have been with me for decades, none of them has ever so much as moved until I pick it up and use it to perform its function. In all the thousands and thousands of times I've shot guns, none of them has ever killed a person.

You would deprive me of my natural right to self defense by taking away the single most effective means of defending myself and leave me helpless against criminals who aren't about to follow any gun law you can come up with. If you eliminated every single gun in America today there would still be murders and within days criminals would again be in possession of illegal firearms. The only noticeable change would be that I would now be weaponless and at the mercy of the criminals. How very marxist of you...

(09-10-2025 07:25 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:24 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  I’m curious what would Republicans think of launching a modern cointelpro? This was an operation by the FBI in the 1960s and early 70s aimed at breaking the back of radical leftist organizations and a few right ones. The FBI infiltrated, raided, and in some cases even potentially assassinated members of militant leftist groups large and small.

Wanna talk about it? Make a thread about it. Don't derail this one.

That’s the average liberal for you. Scatterbrained, can’t stay on topic, strictly talking points.

This has the feel of (even different from those) the MLK assassination and in a smaller sense the JFK assassination. This has a personal feel to it, that not even Trump had when he was almost assinated.

(09-10-2025 07:25 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:24 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  I’m curious what would Republicans think of launching a modern cointelpro? This was an operation by the FBI in the 1960s and early 70s aimed at breaking the back of radical leftist organizations and a few right ones. The FBI infiltrated, raided, and in some cases even potentially assassinated members of militant leftist groups large and small.

Wanna talk about it? Make a thread about it. Don't derail this one.

Only reason I brought it up was so many in this thread are saying the left is violent and needs to be stopped, I was asking to what lengths should the government go to stop it?

(09-10-2025 07:02 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  JR don't play dude.

Like I said.

(09-10-2025 07:39 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:25 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:24 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  I’m curious what would Republicans think of launching a modern cointelpro? This was an operation by the FBI in the 1960s and early 70s aimed at breaking the back of radical leftist organizations and a few right ones. The FBI infiltrated, raided, and in some cases even potentially assassinated members of militant leftist groups large and small.

Wanna talk about it? Make a thread about it. Don't derail this one.

Only reason I brought it up was so many in this thread are saying the left is violent and needs to be stopped, I was asking to what lengths should the government go to stop it?

Most people in this thread are crying about a good family man dead and his children fatherless, gtfo.


You should pay attention to ABAB_Up_down

(09-10-2025 07:39 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:25 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:24 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  I’m curious what would Republicans think of launching a modern cointelpro? This was an operation by the FBI in the 1960s and early 70s aimed at breaking the back of radical leftist organizations and a few right ones. The FBI infiltrated, raided, and in some cases even potentially assassinated members of militant leftist groups large and small.

Wanna talk about it? Make a thread about it. Don't derail this one.

Only reason I brought it up was so many in this thread are saying the left is violent and needs to be stopped, I was asking to what lengths should the government go to stop it?

How about encouraging keeping the traditional nuclear family together? That would help.

Next.

(09-10-2025 07:37 PM)hburg Wrote:  This has the feel of (even different from those) the MLK assassination and in a smaller sense the JFK assassination. This has a personal feel to it, that not even Trump had when he was almost assinated.

It would have had Trump died. The fact that CK leaves behind a wife and children is enough to make any man with a soul cry, as it happened to me.

(09-10-2025 07:39 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:25 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:24 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  I’m curious what would Republicans think of launching a modern cointelpro? This was an operation by the FBI in the 1960s and early 70s aimed at breaking the back of radical leftist organizations and a few right ones. The FBI infiltrated, raided, and in some cases even potentially assassinated members of militant leftist groups large and small.

Wanna talk about it? Make a thread about it. Don't derail this one.

Only reason I brought it up was so many in this thread are saying the left is violent and needs to be stopped, I was asking to what lengths should the government go to stop it?

The government can’t force people to stop acting like demons. It has to come from within.

You do realize the current trajectory is not sustainable? Assassinating political opponents because you hate them is ******* evil.

(09-10-2025 07:40 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(09-10-2025 07:37 PM)hburg Wrote:  This has the feel of (even different from those) the MLK assassination and in a smaller sense the JFK assassination. This has a personal feel to it, that not even Trump had when he was almost assinated.

It would have had Trump died. The fact that CK leaves behind a wife and children is enough to make any man with a soul cry, as it happened to me.

Hey, I cried, too, man. Then I got angry. (Heck, I'm still a little angry.)

(09-10-2025 07:37 PM)hburg Wrote:  This has the feel of (even different from those) the MLK assassination and in a smaller sense the JFK assassination. This has a personal feel to it, that not even Trump had when he was almost assinated.

This is a big deal and hopefully will influence kids and adults alike in a positive way.

He was on a trajectory to be in some type of high office at some point for sure.

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