(05-11-2025 02:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:59 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:52 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:28 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:22 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Your TDS is incredible

Nope.
Its simply your worship of Trump is blindingly your objectivity.

Again, if Trump accepts the “gift” on behalf of the American people, then so be it. If he accepts it as a personal gift, then its a bribe and a complete conflict of interest.

Have you ever heard of Hunter Biden? Or Joe Biden? What they did was actually illegal, not just a "bad look."

It's not bribery if the gifting party receives no tangible benefit. Name the benefit.

are you serious? Do you honestly think they’re giving a billion dollar gift to Donald Trump and expect nothing in return?

Assumptions don't equal crimes. Come back and complain when something actually happens. Seriously, lol.

And again, I don't recall you getting all stirred up when Hunter took bribes and committed actual crimes for likely hundreds of millions.

I astonished at the 'committed actual crimes' schtick.

Is there a cloud around that? Absolutely.

But I do find your blind party fog to be really telling here. Perfectly okay to create the same cloud of influence peddling with your guy, and completely proven beyond a doubt crime (its not) when the other guy.

Brilliant.

(05-11-2025 02:01 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:00 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:45 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:43 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:25 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  The crazy thing is I've actually seen people with worse cases of TDS. Hell, one of them was the mother of the woman I was married to.

You’re divorced?
shocking

Are you married, Mensa?

yep… been so for 30 years

Congratulations.

I mean that. That's awesome, man. Congratulations. You married the right woman for you. I thought I had married the right woman for me, but it turns out that I didn't.

I just hope I don't end up like my sister. Her first marriage ended after five years. She's been in her second marriage for almost ten years.

(05-11-2025 02:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:59 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:52 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:28 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:22 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Your TDS is incredible

Nope.
Its simply your worship of Trump is blindingly your objectivity.

Again, if Trump accepts the “gift” on behalf of the American people, then so be it. If he accepts it as a personal gift, then its a bribe and a complete conflict of interest.

Have you ever heard of Hunter Biden? Or Joe Biden? What they did was actually illegal, not just a "bad look."

It's not bribery if the gifting party receives no tangible benefit. Name the benefit.

are you serious? Do you honestly think they’re giving a billion dollar gift to Donald Trump and expect nothing in return?

Assumptions don't equal crimes. Come back and complain when something actually happens. Seriously, lol.

And again, I don't recall you getting all stirred up when Hunter took bribes and committed actual crimes for likely hundreds of millions.

Its why there’s is an emoluments clause that forbids accepting gifts…

Hunter Biden wasn’t President. Hunter Biden never held elected office.

(05-11-2025 02:01 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:00 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:45 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:43 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:25 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  The crazy thing is I've actually seen people with worse cases of TDS. Hell, one of them was the mother of the woman I was married to.

You’re divorced?
shocking

Are you married, Mensa?

yep… been so for 30 years

Congratulations.

I mean that. That's awesome, man. Congratulations. You married the right woman for you. I thought I had married the right woman for me, but it turns out that I didn't.

She is a saint.

(05-11-2025 02:05 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:01 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:00 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:45 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:43 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  You’re divorced?
shocking

Are you married, Mensa?

yep… been so for 30 years

Congratulations.

I mean that. That's awesome, man. Congratulations. You married the right woman for you. I thought I had married the right woman for me, but it turns out that I didn't.

I just hope I don't end up like my sister. Her first marriage ended after five years. She's been in her second marriage for almost ten years.

Someone once told me that marriage is hard work. I put in the work; she put in the work. Some of my efforts were thrown back in my face and therefore deemed not good enough. I still tried, but it started looking futile. When she told me she had been seeing someone else, I at first wanted to try to work it out, but then, I knew if we had, she would think I was a chump. So I let her leave me for him by moving out. When he threw her away, she wanted to come back, and I told her no. That's when we got divorced.

Mensa: That's awesome, man. Congratulations. I know I give you crap and stuff, but really, I'm glad you and your wife have a great marriage. I wish that had been in the cards for me. Heck, it still might be, but I didn't think I'd be divorced, if you know what I mean. Anyway, I don't know if you're a believer, but the Bible says for wives to submit to their husbands and for us men (well, those of us who are married) to love our wives as Christ loved the Church. Something tells me despite our political differences, you do that. Keep doing that, sir. You'll have a happy life. (And if you're not a believer, well, I still hope you and your wife have a happy life together.)

(05-11-2025 01:59 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:52 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:28 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:22 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Your TDS is incredible

Nope.
Its simply your worship of Trump is blindingly your objectivity.

Again, if Trump accepts the “gift” on behalf of the American people, then so be it. If he accepts it as a personal gift, then its a bribe and a complete conflict of interest.

Have you ever heard of Hunter Biden? Or Joe Biden? What they did was actually illegal, not just a "bad look."

It's not bribery if the gifting party receives no tangible benefit. Name the benefit.

are you serious? Do you honestly think they’re giving a billion dollar gift to Donald Trump and expect nothing in return?

Soooo, they can give away a Billion dollar plane without blinking an eye, but they are looking for “something” in return.

Such as what? Taylor Swift tickets? Gold bars? Our nukular codes? What?

They’re handing over billions bucks! Do you think they need money or something?

And an aside, don’t most “bribes” happen quietly and behind closed doors?

This seems to have leaked out somehow.

As the old Crazy party saying goes:
The duped will dupe again
Loons gon loon

Absolutely incredible that in this day and age Mensa considers himself superior because he isn’t divorced. What a clown you are Mensa.

(05-11-2025 02:03 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:59 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  To the presidential library. Another Federal property.

Why dont you go read up on the personal use by ex-Presidents of items in the respective libraries.

Why would I bother?

Above Reads like it’s all been “vetted”, all the little duckies in a row, and all above board, public, and will remain a Fed Govt property.

I mean How many 747-Maxxes does one girl need?

(05-11-2025 02:05 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:59 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:52 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:28 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Nope.
Its simply your worship of Trump is blindingly your objectivity.

Again, if Trump accepts the “gift” on behalf of the American people, then so be it. If he accepts it as a personal gift, then its a bribe and a complete conflict of interest.

Have you ever heard of Hunter Biden? Or Joe Biden? What they did was actually illegal, not just a "bad look."

It's not bribery if the gifting party receives no tangible benefit. Name the benefit.

are you serious? Do you honestly think they’re giving a billion dollar gift to Donald Trump and expect nothing in return?

Assumptions don't equal crimes. Come back and complain when something actually happens. Seriously, lol.

And again, I don't recall you getting all stirred up when Hunter took bribes and committed actual crimes for likely hundreds of millions.

I astonished at the 'committed actual crimes' schtick.

Is there a cloud around that? Absolutely.

But I do find your blind party fog to be really telling here. Perfectly okay to create the same cloud of influence peddling with your guy, and completely proven beyond a doubt crime (its not) when the other guy.

Brilliant.

The "same cloud of influence peddling?"

That might be the dumbest thing you've ever said.

What Hunter did (you do you, I'll do me) is a helluva long way from an announcement that Qatar has offered to supply a plane to Trump that hasn't even been accepted yet, and even if it was, most likely wouldn't be illegal.

That's not "the same cloud."

If you think Hunter didn't take bribes, you're the one blinded by party or by TDS, Clarence.

Which, btw, you are "eat up" with.

Guess what libtards, Trump is still your President and all your whining won’t change that.

(05-11-2025 02:09 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:05 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:01 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:00 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:45 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Are you married, Mensa?

yep… been so for 30 years

Congratulations.

I mean that. That's awesome, man. Congratulations. You married the right woman for you. I thought I had married the right woman for me, but it turns out that I didn't.

I just hope I don't end up like my sister. Her first marriage ended after five years. She's been in her second marriage for almost ten years.

Someone once told me that marriage is hard work. I put in the work; she put in the work. Some of my efforts were thrown back in my face and therefore deemed not good enough. I still tried, but it started looking futile. When she told me she had been seeing someone else, I at first wanted to try to work it out, but then, I knew if we had, she would think I was a chump. So I let her leave me for him by moving out. When he threw her away, she wanted to come back, and I told her no. That's when we got divorced.

Mensa: That's awesome, man. Congratulations. I know I give you crap and stuff, but really, I'm glad you and your wife have a great marriage. I wish that had been in the cards for me. Heck, it still might be, but I didn't think I'd be divorced, if you know what I mean. Anyway, I don't know if you're a believer, but the Bible says for wives to submit to their husbands and for us men (well, those of us who are married) to love our wives as Christ loved the Church. Something tells me despite our political differences, you do that. Keep doing that, sir. You'll have a happy life. (And if you're not a believer, well, I still hope you and your wife have a happy life together.)

It is hard work & I apologize for the cheap shot.

(05-11-2025 02:19 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:09 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:05 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:01 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:00 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  yep… been so for 30 years

Congratulations.

I mean that. That's awesome, man. Congratulations. You married the right woman for you. I thought I had married the right woman for me, but it turns out that I didn't.

I just hope I don't end up like my sister. Her first marriage ended after five years. She's been in her second marriage for almost ten years.

Someone once told me that marriage is hard work. I put in the work; she put in the work. Some of my efforts were thrown back in my face and therefore deemed not good enough. I still tried, but it started looking futile. When she told me she had been seeing someone else, I at first wanted to try to work it out, but then, I knew if we had, she would think I was a chump. So I let her leave me for him by moving out. When he threw her away, she wanted to come back, and I told her no. That's when we got divorced.

Mensa: That's awesome, man. Congratulations. I know I give you crap and stuff, but really, I'm glad you and your wife have a great marriage. I wish that had been in the cards for me. Heck, it still might be, but I didn't think I'd be divorced, if you know what I mean. Anyway, I don't know if you're a believer, but the Bible says for wives to submit to their husbands and for us men (well, those of us who are married) to love our wives as Christ loved the Church. Something tells me despite our political differences, you do that. Keep doing that, sir. You'll have a happy life. (And if you're not a believer, well, I still hope you and your wife have a happy life together.)

It is hard work & I apologize for the cheap shot.

Apology accepted. You didn't know. (Or at least didn't remember.) Don't worry about it.

(05-11-2025 02:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:05 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:59 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:52 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Have you ever heard of Hunter Biden? Or Joe Biden? What they did was actually illegal, not just a "bad look."

It's not bribery if the gifting party receives no tangible benefit. Name the benefit.

are you serious? Do you honestly think they’re giving a billion dollar gift to Donald Trump and expect nothing in return?

Assumptions don't equal crimes. Come back and complain when something actually happens. Seriously, lol.

And again, I don't recall you getting all stirred up when Hunter took bribes and committed actual crimes for likely hundreds of millions.

I astonished at the 'committed actual crimes' schtick.

Is there a cloud around that? Absolutely.

But I do find your blind party fog to be really telling here. Perfectly okay to create the same cloud of influence peddling with your guy, and completely proven beyond a doubt crime (its not) when the other guy.

Brilliant.

The "same cloud of influence peddling?"

That might be the dumbest thing you've ever said.

What Hunter did (you do you, I'll do me) is a helluva long way from an announcement that Qatar has offered to supply a plane to Trump that hasn't even been accepted yet, and even if it was, most likely wouldn't be illegal.

That's not "the same cloud."

If you think Hunter didn't take bribes, you're the one blinded by party or by TDS, Clarence.

Which, btw, you are "eat up" with.

Hunter Biden can take all the money a company is willing to pay. He’s not in elected office.
Jared Kushner did the same… taking billions in Saudi investments soon after leaving office.

(05-11-2025 01:50 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 12:51 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 12:44 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 12:24 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 12:16 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  So the response from the Trumpistas on this transaction is 'nothing to see', 'whadabout (something Biden)', and the general 'nothing but TDS' ?

Seriously?

Nothing at all unsavory? Especially with the apparent aim of Trump keeping it after the Presidency?

So why not wait until there is actual conflict of interest/quid pro quo that looks suspicious? I’ll absolutely grant your argument if that eventually happens, but until then…no.

I guess you are okay with Hunter/ Joe then.

I'm not.

And not for the absolute appearance of something ******.

Glad you wish to write it off.

Quote:Historical context offers that this happens pretty often with other POTUS’. Clinton got a million from Qatar that went to his foundation. Obama received gifts from Saudi Arabia.

During their Presidency? Nope. Not at all the same.

When Hillary was SoS, and later running -- absolutely disgusting appearance.

Quote:Was there quid pro quo there? I don’t recall that happening with Obama and Clinton. Could be wrong.

I think you are conflating out of office issues with in office issues. And absolutely with in office -- it's crappy. It wholly creates the wrong thing. Additionally with the comments that it would follow Trump and not the office -- even more so.

Can you demonstrate where the quid pro quo lies?

“Bribes” can happen during office, and be delayed in order to not violate the emoluments clause. And I’m not saying that Obama and Clinton did anything wrong, unless there was direct actions that helped the bribing country.

If there is zero harm done from a political standpoint, and the money isn’t hurting taxpayers…why does it matter anyway?

Because it sends the message that 'quid pro quo' is the order of the day.

If I send my county commissioner 100k simply because, he should *absolutely* turn it away. And there absolutely *should* be an investigation into the proposed 'gift' (i.e. quid without a pro quo).

Even more so with the Presidency -- especially now that the office of the Presidency now holds an extra special layer of criminal immunity about it.

If the comment is 'there is nothing wrong or bad about it because there isnt any *known* return favor' -- I would say yo uand I live on different planets of what should and should not occur.

Quote:We allow congressional representatives to insider trade and tip the market with impunity and nobody says a word. It’s a joke.

And we shouldnt allow that. And that is the current excuse now?
[/quote]


There’s nothing wrong at all with investigating or talking about it.

My problem is that anyone saying it’s “obvious corruption” when A) we don’t have all the facts yet to the story, B) “gifts” are nothing new, and C) it’s quid pro quo

I’ve asked earlier in this thread for specific evidence of C, but nothing concrete. In order for there to be actual damage done, there needs to be a true gain for Qatar. I’ve already conceded that if this does come to fruition, I will change my stance immediately. What I don’t agree with is jumping to conclusions as Mensa did.

I bring up the congressional aspect because selective enforcement of the law is much more dangerous than Trump getting an airplane from Qatar. Where are the endless amounts of threads calling out prominent politicians on both sides who have enriched themselves over the last 40 years? Why is everything all about Trump? When the focus was on Biden/Ukraine, and people like Dan Crenshaw are raking in millions, I felt the same way. It should have been brought up then as well.

Sorry, I’m very consistent on this part. Either we equally charge everyone or leave everyone alone.

(05-11-2025 02:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:05 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:59 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:52 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Have you ever heard of Hunter Biden? Or Joe Biden? What they did was actually illegal, not just a "bad look."

It's not bribery if the gifting party receives no tangible benefit. Name the benefit.

are you serious? Do you honestly think they’re giving a billion dollar gift to Donald Trump and expect nothing in return?

Assumptions don't equal crimes. Come back and complain when something actually happens. Seriously, lol.

And again, I don't recall you getting all stirred up when Hunter took bribes and committed actual crimes for likely hundreds of millions.

I astonished at the 'committed actual crimes' schtick.

Is there a cloud around that? Absolutely.

But I do find your blind party fog to be really telling here. Perfectly okay to create the same cloud of influence peddling with your guy, and completely proven beyond a doubt crime (its not) when the other guy.

Brilliant.

The "same cloud of influence peddling?"

That might be the dumbest thing you've ever said.

What Hunter did (you do you, I'll do me) is a helluva long way from an announcement that Qatar has offered to supply a plane to Trump that hasn't even been accepted yet, and even if it was, most likely wouldn't be illegal.

That's not "the same cloud."

If you think Hunter didn't take bribes, you're the one blinded by party or by TDS, Clarence.

Maybe parse your sentence. How does Hunter 'take a bribe'?

Problematic at step 1 there. Funny thing, you call me 'Clarence' as some manner to belittle my view on the law, but you are seemingly too dense to figure out the *main* and *obvious* problem with the phrase 'Hunter took a bribe'. Cool cool.

Was Hunter paid for connections? Most probably. Illegal for Hunter? Nope.

Unsightly? Absolutely. Potentially a crime by Joe? Maybe.

A crime by Hunter? Nope. But please ***** and scream broadly and stupidly as you do above to show how much worse that is than this current Trump issue.

Next kneejerk comment. As for the bolded... you may want to be a tad more careful next time with the stupid fing superlatives given the problems above.

Quote:Which, btw, you are "eat up" with.

And if so, you seemingly are affected with Trump Reverence Syndrome or Defend Anything That Impacts Trump in equal measure.

I don't feel the need as you do to repeat that as a catch all rationale. Imagine that.

Now that we have that kneejerk whine from you out of the way, perhaps let's address the Jetz 4 Trump that is the topic. And please continue your Defend Donnie At All Cost regime you perform so well above, as elsewhere.

(05-11-2025 02:16 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:03 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:59 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  To the presidential library. Another Federal property.

Why dont you go read up on the personal use by ex-Presidents of items in the respective libraries.

Why would I bother?

Above Reads like it’s all been “vetted”, all the little duckies in a row, and all above board, public, and will remain a Fed Govt property.

I mean How many 747-Maxxes does one girl need?

A Federal property to be used by one and only one person --- not even in the government at that point.

Kind of blows up your 'still government property' excuse, though.

(05-11-2025 02:29 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:05 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 01:59 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  are you serious? Do you honestly think they’re giving a billion dollar gift to Donald Trump and expect nothing in return?

Assumptions don't equal crimes. Come back and complain when something actually happens. Seriously, lol.

And again, I don't recall you getting all stirred up when Hunter took bribes and committed actual crimes for likely hundreds of millions.

I astonished at the 'committed actual crimes' schtick.

Is there a cloud around that? Absolutely.

But I do find your blind party fog to be really telling here. Perfectly okay to create the same cloud of influence peddling with your guy, and completely proven beyond a doubt crime (its not) when the other guy.

Brilliant.

The "same cloud of influence peddling?"

That might be the dumbest thing you've ever said.

What Hunter did (you do you, I'll do me) is a helluva long way from an announcement that Qatar has offered to supply a plane to Trump that hasn't even been accepted yet, and even if it was, most likely wouldn't be illegal.

That's not "the same cloud."

If you think Hunter didn't take bribes, you're the one blinded by party or by TDS, Clarence.

Which, btw, you are "eat up" with.

Hunter Biden can take all the money a company is willing to pay. He’s not in elected office.
Jared Kushner did the same… taking billions in Saudi investments soon after leaving office.

And Joe wasn't involved? Remember Hunter's partner and his testimony?

I don't know why I bother to even talk to you numbnuts.

Hunter is innocent. Joe is innocent. But let somebody announce a possible gift of a plane, and Trump is guilty.

(05-11-2025 02:38 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  There’s nothing wrong at all with investigating or talking about it.

My problem is that anyone saying it’s “obvious corruption” when A) we don’t have all the facts yet to the story, B) “gifts” are nothing new, and C) it’s quid pro quo

Im not saying "its OBVIOUS corruption" -- it IS a HIGHLY obvious benefit aimed at one and only one person, and continuing even after leaving office.

Again, should my gift of 100k to the county commissioner engender a 'hey, no pro quo there, let it pass' on an equal basis?

There is an absolute reason why gifts to political figures are problematic -- many in fact illegal.

You just want to say 'hey nothing special here, nothing that raises any issues'? Im not in that camp.

Quote:I’ve asked earlier in this thread for specific evidence of C, but nothing concrete. In order for there to be actual damage done, there needs to be a true gain for Qatar. I’ve already conceded that if this does come to fruition, I will change my stance immediately. What I don’t agree with is jumping to conclusions as Mensa did.

I think it shouldnt happen for the same reason one should not, really cannot, gift their local county commissioner 100k. I dont give a fk if C) happens or not.

Quote:I bring up the congressional aspect because selective enforcement of the law is much more dangerous than Trump getting an airplane from Qatar. Where are the endless amounts of threads calling out prominent politicians on both sides who have enriched themselves over the last 40 years? Why is everything all about Trump? When the focus was on Biden/Ukraine, and people like Dan Crenshaw are raking in millions, I felt the same way. It should have been brought up then as well.

So everybody should never be scrutinized in your view. Cool cool.

Quote:Sorry, I’m very consistent on this part. Either we equally charge everyone or leave everyone alone.

Im in the same boat, biased with enforcing the public integrity laws, instead of simply shitcanning them in the dark -- in this case not in the dark but starkly out in the open.

(05-11-2025 02:45 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:29 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:05 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Assumptions don't equal crimes. Come back and complain when something actually happens. Seriously, lol.

And again, I don't recall you getting all stirred up when Hunter took bribes and committed actual crimes for likely hundreds of millions.

I astonished at the 'committed actual crimes' schtick.

Is there a cloud around that? Absolutely.

But I do find your blind party fog to be really telling here. Perfectly okay to create the same cloud of influence peddling with your guy, and completely proven beyond a doubt crime (its not) when the other guy.

Brilliant.

The "same cloud of influence peddling?"

That might be the dumbest thing you've ever said.

What Hunter did (you do you, I'll do me) is a helluva long way from an announcement that Qatar has offered to supply a plane to Trump that hasn't even been accepted yet, and even if it was, most likely wouldn't be illegal.

That's not "the same cloud."

If you think Hunter didn't take bribes, you're the one blinded by party or by TDS, Clarence.

Which, btw, you are "eat up" with.

Hunter Biden can take all the money a company is willing to pay. He’s not in elected office.
Jared Kushner did the same… taking billions in Saudi investments soon after leaving office.

And Joe wasn't involved? Remember Hunter's partner and his testimony?

I don't know why I bother to even talk to you numbnuts.

And there goes TripleA showing how good he is with even listening to something he doesnt agree with. Brilliant.

Mensa, apparently it is all your fault for TripleA screaming at you here. Lolz.

(05-11-2025 02:45 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:29 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:05 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 02:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Assumptions don't equal crimes. Come back and complain when something actually happens. Seriously, lol.

And again, I don't recall you getting all stirred up when Hunter took bribes and committed actual crimes for likely hundreds of millions.

I astonished at the 'committed actual crimes' schtick.

Is there a cloud around that? Absolutely.

But I do find your blind party fog to be really telling here. Perfectly okay to create the same cloud of influence peddling with your guy, and completely proven beyond a doubt crime (its not) when the other guy.

Brilliant.

The "same cloud of influence peddling?"

That might be the dumbest thing you've ever said.

What Hunter did (you do you, I'll do me) is a helluva long way from an announcement that Qatar has offered to supply a plane to Trump that hasn't even been accepted yet, and even if it was, most likely wouldn't be illegal.

That's not "the same cloud."

If you think Hunter didn't take bribes, you're the one blinded by party or by TDS, Clarence.

Which, btw, you are "eat up" with.

Hunter Biden can take all the money a company is willing to pay. He’s not in elected office.
Jared Kushner did the same… taking billions in Saudi investments soon after leaving office.

And Joe wasn't involved? Remember Hunter's partner and his testimony?

I don't know why I bother to even talk to you numbnuts.

Hunter is innocent. Joe is innocent. But let somebody announce a possible gift of a plane, and Trump is guilty.

Sorry but Joe’s involvement was never proven. No doubt Hunter peddled his father’s name, and if laws were put into place to keep family members & lobbyists from peddling influence, I’d be all for it; but equating Hunter & Donald are just not similar. Now, if Joe had accepted a plane from the Chinese government while serving as President, then you’d have an equal comparison.