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RE: Opinion article. Trump and Zielinsky and leadership
(03-01-2025 09:37 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  
(03-01-2025 09:22 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Tigercity laid low since the election and now he/she comes out thinking they have an opening line of attack which is foolishness. Zelensky has nowhere but to the US to salvage anything. Europe isn’t going to save him as they have a lot of strong words but little money or power to help in the long term. He’s on his own and will have to flee for his life eventually

At least Kruciff left.

The filth with at least average intelligence usually do because they are embarrased. The obliviious retards never do
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RE: Opinion article. Trump and Zielinsky and leadership
(03-01-2025 10:00 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(03-01-2025 09:52 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  
(03-01-2025 09:24 AM)maximus Wrote:  Hey retard, how about linking you're moronic opinion article and post in the thread that's 400 deep and not starting a new one.

Troll

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No. I'm okay with this. I don't want any more of her bullcrap sullying my thread. lol

Also, a NYT opinion column written by someone who writes for the New Republic? Really? lol Go away.

Those broken-minded libs actually think New Republic is mainstream thought since thats what their little echo chambers say.

I figured that out years ago. I'm too "in the know" (because of my journalism background) to know better anyway.
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[Image: Ukraine-Zelensky-dictator.jpg]
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(03-01-2025 10:04 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(03-01-2025 09:37 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  
(03-01-2025 09:22 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Tigercity laid low since the election and now he/she comes out thinking they have an opening line of attack which is foolishness. Zelensky has nowhere but to the US to salvage anything. Europe isn’t going to save him as they have a lot of strong words but little money or power to help in the long term. He’s on his own and will have to flee for his life eventually

At least Kruciff left.

The filth with at least average intelligence usually do because they are embarrased. The obliviious retards never do

Mentally, they're stupid two year old children. That's how they've always been.
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It's why they congregate on Reddit to tantrum together.
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(03-01-2025 10:27 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  It's why they congregate on Reddit to tantrum together.

Yep. They'll include Trump and Musk in every conversation, even if the conversation doesn't include those two men.
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RE: Opinion article. Trump and Zielinsky and leadership
(03-01-2025 10:30 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  
(03-01-2025 10:27 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  It's why they congregate on Reddit to tantrum together.

Yep. They'll include Trump and Musk in every conversation, even if the conversation doesn't include those two men.

Well, they're entitled to go full retard. I'm glad it's on Reddit and not over here.
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(03-01-2025 10:30 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  
(03-01-2025 10:27 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  It's why they congregate on Reddit to tantrum together.

Yep. They'll include Trump and Musk in every conversation, even if the conversation doesn't include those two men.

Misery loves company. Their entire life is on the socials. They are like the weirdo gym guys. Once they walk out of the gym they go back to parking cars or bussing tables and are nobodies again. In the gym they feel like super heroes. That's why you see them every time you go in there. They never leave.
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(03-01-2025 10:04 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(03-01-2025 09:37 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  
(03-01-2025 09:22 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Tigercity laid low since the election and now he/she comes out thinking they have an opening line of attack which is foolishness. Zelensky has nowhere but to the US to salvage anything. Europe isn’t going to save him as they have a lot of strong words but little money or power to help in the long term. He’s on his own and will have to flee for his life eventually

At least Kruciff left.

The filth with at least average intelligence usually do because they are embarrased. The obliviious retards never do

Are you saying OST, or "Baby Hair Guy" as I call him, is of average intelligence? 03-lmfao

I mean OST does occasionally surprise me with a semi-nuanced argument, but then he goes and ruins it with, as Steven Tyler of Aerosmith once sang, the "same ol' story; same ol' song and dance." Which is why I say he's just brainwashed, maybe even to the point of no return. But stupid? No. He's not stupid.
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(03-01-2025 10:27 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  It's why they congregate on Reddit to tantrum together.

Redditards

Do you think they realize the world laughs at them?
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(03-01-2025 08:35 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(03-01-2025 08:13 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  "In August 1941, about four months before the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Franklin Roosevelt met with Winston Churchill aboard warships in Newfoundland’s Placentia Bay and agreed to the Atlantic Charter, a joint declaration by the world’s leading democratic powers on “common principles” for a postwar world.

Among its key points: “no aggrandizement, territorial or other”; “sovereign rights and self-government restored to those who have been forcibly deprived of them”; “freedom from fear and want”; freedom of the seas; “access, on equal terms, to the trade and to the raw materials of the world which are needed for their economic prosperity.”

The charter, and the alliance that came of it, is a high point of American statesmanship. On Friday in the Oval Office, the world witnessed the opposite. Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine’s embattled democratic leader, came to Washington prepared to sign away anything he could offer President Trump except his nation’s freedom, security and common sense. For that, he was rewarded with a lecture on manners from the most mendacious vulgarian and ungracious host ever to inhabit the White House."


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I thought about the meeting producing the Atlantic Charter after watching the botched news conference.

Churchill was savvy and solicitous about gaining American cooperation - the opposite of Zelensky. Trump was abrasive and aggressive - the antipode of FDR.

Churchill walked away securing the goodwill of the USA (the most powerful nation on earth) while Zelensky left empty handed. Zelensky should have tried harder since his nation had the most to lose.

That's a fair take. You kind of reminded me of the Zimmerman/Martin incident. Two people doing stupid things and one ends up dead and one has his life ruined.
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(03-01-2025 08:39 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Comment on America's new lack of standing in the Free world.


Kasparov and Vindman have two of the most severe cases of TDS on the planet. Anything they say about Trump should be dismissed out of hand.

Now Kasparov also hates Putin.
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Z thought that he was back in Ukraine where he has absolute power. He found out differently. That sucker has changed his mind twice already about signing the REM deal and he still thinks he has credibility?

Trump and Vance had to treat him like "some" parents treat their daughters when the daughters get all teenager-like and scream "I hate you, I hate you" and in some cases cuss at them, like Z did to Vance. Afterwards, the parents send them to their room and in Z's case, back to his hotel room. We'll have none of this petulance, said the president. Come out when you're ready and especially when WE'RE ready for you.
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(03-01-2025 11:17 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  Z thought that he was back in Ukraine where he has absolute power. He found out differently. That sucker has changed his mind twice already about signing the REM deal and he still thinks he has credibility?

Trump and Vance had to treat him like "some" parents treat their daughters when the daughters get all teenager-like and scream "I hate you, I hate you" and in some cases cuss at them, like Z did to Vance. Afterwards, the parents send them to their room and in Z's case, back to his hotel room. We'll have none of this petulance, said the president. Come out when you're ready and especially when WE'RE ready for you.

The only petulant little children I saw were Vance and Trump.
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(03-01-2025 08:39 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Comment on America's new lack of standing in the Free world.


Let us see how well Zelensky can defend the free world throwing rocks at advancing Russian troops.

All of this virtue signaling by who? Countries that won't spend 1% of their GDP on defense.

This guy must live in clown world.

Not one European country that is spewing this will send one person to Ukraine.

Reality bites
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(03-01-2025 11:47 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  
(03-01-2025 08:39 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Comment on America's new lack of standing in the Free world.


Let us see how well Zelensky can defend the free world throwing rocks at advancing Russian troops.

All of this virtue signaling by who? Countries that won't spend 1% of their GDP on defense.

This guy must live in clown world.

Not one European country that is spewing this will send one person to Ukraine.

Reality bites

The EU has sent a similar amount of money as the US.
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(03-01-2025 10:09 AM)shere khan Wrote:  [Image: Ukraine-Zelensky-dictator.jpg]



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(03-01-2025 11:02 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(03-01-2025 08:35 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(03-01-2025 08:13 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  "In August 1941, about four months before the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Franklin Roosevelt met with Winston Churchill aboard warships in Newfoundland’s Placentia Bay and agreed to the Atlantic Charter, a joint declaration by the world’s leading democratic powers on “common principles” for a postwar world.

Among its key points: “no aggrandizement, territorial or other”; “sovereign rights and self-government restored to those who have been forcibly deprived of them”; “freedom from fear and want”; freedom of the seas; “access, on equal terms, to the trade and to the raw materials of the world which are needed for their economic prosperity.”

The charter, and the alliance that came of it, is a high point of American statesmanship. On Friday in the Oval Office, the world witnessed the opposite. Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine’s embattled democratic leader, came to Washington prepared to sign away anything he could offer President Trump except his nation’s freedom, security and common sense. For that, he was rewarded with a lecture on manners from the most mendacious vulgarian and ungracious host ever to inhabit the White House."


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I thought about the meeting producing the Atlantic Charter after watching the botched news conference.

Churchill was savvy and solicitous about gaining American cooperation - the opposite of Zelensky. Trump was abrasive and aggressive - the antipode of FDR.

Churchill walked away securing the goodwill of the USA (the most powerful nation on earth) while Zelensky left empty handed. Zelensky should have tried harder since his nation had the most to lose.

That's a fair take. You kind of reminded me of the Zimmerman/Martin incident. Two people doing stupid things and one ends up dead and one has his life ruined.

No - one has nothing to do with the other. What yesterday was was an attempt by Trump to have his fragile ego stroked once again. In Trump's ego centric world he would invite the media to record him reducing Zielinsky to pleading tears. Then force him to eat McDonald's hamburgers like he did in members of his staff. When that didn't happen, like when you stand up to a bully, Trump became enraged. That's when the petulant opportunist, JD, steps in to squirrel points with his on version of nastiness he knows a gangster appreciates, before Trump concludes the fiasco with "this will make great TV." Trump has no better plan than himself. He's not a complicated person. He's a person who has literally no self reflection and he's never grown beyond an unaware child. That's the level Trump exists at and trying to assign anything more complicated or, God forbid, better motivated, has proven over and over to the wrong.
This.
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(03-01-2025 11:54 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  
(03-01-2025 10:09 AM)shere khan Wrote:  [Image: Ukraine-Zelensky-dictator.jpg]




Neocons here dgaf as long as the MIC war machine keeps churning.
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