"In August 1941, about four months before the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Franklin Roosevelt met with Winston Churchill aboard warships in Newfoundland’s Placentia Bay and agreed to the Atlantic Charter, a joint declaration by the world’s leading democratic powers on “common principles” for a postwar world.

Among its key points: “no aggrandizement, territorial or other”; “sovereign rights and self-government restored to those who have been forcibly deprived of them”; “freedom from fear and want”; freedom of the seas; “access, on equal terms, to the trade and to the raw materials of the world which are needed for their economic prosperity.”

The charter, and the alliance that came of it, is a high point of American statesmanship. On Friday in the Oval Office, the world witnessed the opposite. Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine’s embattled democratic leader, came to Washington prepared to sign away anything he could offer President Trump except his nation’s freedom, security and common sense. For that, he was rewarded with a lecture on manners from the most mendacious vulgarian and ungracious host ever to inhabit the White House."

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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/28/opini...=url-share

So, because the MSM treated this as some colossal failure of diplomacy you decided to crawl out from the woodwork and make yourself known again. Wrong. No one in their right mind is viewing this the way you loons have been told to view it. Zelensky brought this on himself. I'm of the opinion that this was indeed an ambush, just not the kind your dear leaders have told you to believe it was.
I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find out that your democrat gods set this all up to make Trump look bad. Guess what, it didn't work.

Kasparov comment on the UN vote with Putin.

lulz

(03-01-2025 08:13 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  "In August 1941, about four months before the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Franklin Roosevelt met with Winston Churchill aboard warships in Newfoundland’s Placentia Bay and agreed to the Atlantic Charter, a joint declaration by the world’s leading democratic powers on “common principles” for a postwar world.

Among its key points: “no aggrandizement, territorial or other”; “sovereign rights and self-government restored to those who have been forcibly deprived of them”; “freedom from fear and want”; freedom of the seas; “access, on equal terms, to the trade and to the raw materials of the world which are needed for their economic prosperity.”

The charter, and the alliance that came of it, is a high point of American statesmanship. On Friday in the Oval Office, the world witnessed the opposite. Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine’s embattled democratic leader, came to Washington prepared to sign away anything he could offer President Trump except his nation’s freedom, security and common sense. For that, he was rewarded with a lecture on manners from the most mendacious vulgarian and ungracious host ever to inhabit the White House."

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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/28/opini...=url-share

I thought about the meeting producing the Atlantic Charter after watching the botched news conference.

Churchill was savvy and solicitous about gaining American cooperation - the opposite of Zelensky. Trump was abrasive and aggressive - the antipode of FDR.

Churchill walked away securing the goodwill of the USA (the most powerful nation on earth) while Zelensky left empty handed. Zelensky should have tried harder since his nation had the most to lose.

Muh NY Times opinion!

They are still in business?

Comment on America's new lack of standing in the Free world.

Poor Nuland and Vindman lol.

Utter nonsense by the author.

A generational cuck.

https://newrepublic.com/article/155144/c...t-stephens
He was literally born into the ideological feuds of the 20th century. My grandmother Annette was an acquaintance of Leon Trotsky, a friend of Anais Nin and Diego Rivera. Her third husband was the communist composer Conlon Nancarrow. My grandfather Stevie worshipped Winston Churchill, believed inin free enterprise and a strong defense, hated communism. My grandparents divorced when my father was eight, and you could say my father wasn’t neutral between his parents’ points of view.

So to summarize: Bret Stephens’s grandfather—a captain of industry, a Navy man, a staunch conservative—was cuckolded by a leftist composer while he was off fighting in the Pacific.


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Prog filth quotes weirdos opinion from NYT after seeing it on teh fave book.

Nothing to see here folks

(03-01-2025 08:39 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  Poor Nuland and Vindman lol.

Traitors that should be hanged

(03-01-2025 08:39 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Comment on America's new lack of standing in the Free world.

This is legendary level ignorance.

Back when Ukraine was actually having "elections" and still pretending to be a democracy, Zelenskyy was tossing his political rivals in prision and shutting down all opposition media. After he seized his last "democratic victory" via eliminating the competition and campaigning with millions of US taxpayer dollars, he shut down all future elections and has been playing totalitarian dictator ever since.

And sycophants like you have the gall to say funding this war is defending the "free world".

What a joke you people are.

Tigercity laid low since the election and now he/she comes out thinking they have an opening line of attack which is foolishness. Zelensky has nowhere but to the US to salvage anything. Europe isn’t going to save him as they have a lot of strong words but little money or power to help in the long term. He’s on his own and will have to flee for his life eventually

Hey retard, how about linking you're moronic opinion article and post in the thread that's 400 deep and not starting a new one.

Troll

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(03-01-2025 09:22 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Tigercity laid low since the election and now he/she comes out thinking they have an opening line of attack which is foolishness. Zelensky has nowhere but to the US to salvage anything. Europe isn’t going to save him as they have a lot of strong words but little money or power to help in the long term. He’s on his own and will have to flee for his life eventually

At least Kruciff left.

Good lord... Trump wants to achieve peace instead of blood shed.

What a dick he is....

There is no “free world.”

A country cannot be a country if it can’t enforce its own rights and laws.

All we have done is drop trillions into unwinnable wars.

(03-01-2025 09:40 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Good lord... Trump wants to achieve peace instead of blood shed.

What a dick he is....

Progressives don't even know what to argue anymore.

(03-01-2025 09:24 AM)maximus Wrote:  Hey retard, how about linking you're moronic opinion article and post in the thread that's 400 deep and not starting a new one.

Troll

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No. I'm okay with this. I don't want any more of her bullcrap sullying my thread. lol

Also, a NYT opinion column written by someone who writes for the New Republic? Really? lol Go away.

(03-01-2025 09:52 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(03-01-2025 09:24 AM)maximus Wrote:  Hey retard, how about linking you're moronic opinion article and post in the thread that's 400 deep and not starting a new one.

Troll

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No. I'm okay with this. I don't want any more of her bullcrap sullying my thread. lol

Also, a NYT opinion column written by someone who writes for the New Republic? Really? lol Go away.

Those broken-minded libs actually think New Republic is mainstream thought since thats what their little echo chambers say.

I see one of Memphis' best and brightest has returned with the talking points.