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RE: Healthcare CEO Shot and Killed Outside His Midtown Manhattan Hotel
(12-14-2024 04:10 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  
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(12-14-2024 03:52 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  
(12-14-2024 03:48 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  He was right, and he was vilified as a result.

Yep. His reputation was destroyed. It's a real shame because he was ahead of everybody except maybe Gen. George S. Patton, Jr. Sadly, Patton died in Europe shortly after WWII. (Of course, Patton was talking about taking the fight to the Soviets, not necessarily trying to weed out the Communists here in America, but you get the point.)

Patton was right when he said we defeated the wrong enemy. We should have defeated the Soviet Union instead of Nazi Germany.
That's not exactly what Patton said. We had just defeated the Nazis and Patton was having to do occupation duty. What he said was that the Damned Bolsheviks were going to be a problem we would have to fight sooner or later, and we should fight them while we had the Army in Europe to do it with and while they were war weary and weak, mind you at this time he knew we had the bomb, and they didn't. He strongly argued that the Nazis hated them more than us and would gladly fight them if we rearmed the Wehrmacht and put them in the field under our command through their former officers of our choosing. He was right about the Soviets and had that been done Korea and Viet Nam never happen, not to mention a litany of regional actions which followed those two.

Thanks for the clarification, JR. 04-cheers

McArthur wanted to finish them off. What a much better world it would be now.
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(12-14-2024 04:14 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(12-14-2024 04:10 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  
(12-14-2024 04:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-14-2024 04:02 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  
(12-14-2024 03:52 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Yep. His reputation was destroyed. It's a real shame because he was ahead of everybody except maybe Gen. George S. Patton, Jr. Sadly, Patton died in Europe shortly after WWII. (Of course, Patton was talking about taking the fight to the Soviets, not necessarily trying to weed out the Communists here in America, but you get the point.)

Patton was right when he said we defeated the wrong enemy. We should have defeated the Soviet Union instead of Nazi Germany.
That's not exactly what Patton said. We had just defeated the Nazis and Patton was having to do occupation duty. What he said was that the Damned Bolsheviks were going to be a problem we would have to fight sooner or later, and we should fight them while we had the Army in Europe to do it with and while they were war weary and weak, mind you at this time he knew we had the bomb, and they didn't. He strongly argued that the Nazis hated them more than us and would gladly fight them if we rearmed the Wehrmacht and put them in the field under our command through their former officers of our choosing. He was right about the Soviets and had that been done Korea and Viet Nam never happen, not to mention a litany of regional actions which followed those two.

Thanks for the clarification, JR. 04-cheers

McArthur wanted to finish them off. What a much better world it would be now.

I remember learning that Patton wanted to finish them off. I don't remember MacArthur wanting to do the same thing. (I'm not saying you're wrong; just that I don't remember. 04-cheers)
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(12-14-2024 04:02 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Patton was right when he said we defeated the wrong enemy. We should have defeated the Soviet Union instead of Nazi Germany.
That's not exactly what Patton said. We had just defeated the Nazis and Patton was having to do occupation duty. What he said was that the Damned Bolsheviks were going to be a problem we would have to fight sooner or later, and we should fight them while we had the Army in Europe to do it with and while they were war weary and weak, mind you at this time he knew we had the bomb, and they didn't. He strongly argued that the Nazis hated them more than us and would gladly fight them if we rearmed the Wehrmacht and put them in the field under our command through their former officers of our choosing. He was right about the Soviets and had that been done Korea and Viet Nam never happen, not to mention a litany of regional actions which followed those two.

Thanks for the clarification, JR. 04-cheers

McArthur wanted to finish them off. What a much better world it would be now.

I remember learning that Patton wanted to finish them off. I don't remember MacArthur wanting to do the same thing. (I'm not saying you're wrong; just that I don't remember. 04-cheers)

Mc Arthur wanted the go ahead to take the war into North Korea and to chase the Migs back into China to shoot them down. IOW, he wanted to win the Korean War but the UN and Truman said no and canned him. The same excuse was used against Patton earlier in late 1945 when the excuse was war weariness in the U.S. and fear of political backlash in the next election. Patton had enough candor they tried to label him as crazy. What Patton and Mac Arthur were, were students of military history and both knew the only way to a true peace was the elimination of all of the protagonists of war and Communism wanted to expand. It's as simple as that.
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(12-14-2024 04:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(12-14-2024 04:22 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  
(12-14-2024 04:14 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(12-14-2024 04:10 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  
(12-14-2024 04:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  That's not exactly what Patton said. We had just defeated the Nazis and Patton was having to do occupation duty. What he said was that the Damned Bolsheviks were going to be a problem we would have to fight sooner or later, and we should fight them while we had the Army in Europe to do it with and while they were war weary and weak, mind you at this time he knew we had the bomb, and they didn't. He strongly argued that the Nazis hated them more than us and would gladly fight them if we rearmed the Wehrmacht and put them in the field under our command through their former officers of our choosing. He was right about the Soviets and had that been done Korea and Viet Nam never happen, not to mention a litany of regional actions which followed those two.

Thanks for the clarification, JR. 04-cheers

McArthur wanted to finish them off. What a much better world it would be now.

I remember learning that Patton wanted to finish them off. I don't remember MacArthur wanting to do the same thing. (I'm not saying you're wrong; just that I don't remember. 04-cheers)

Mc Arthur wanted the go ahead to take the war into North Korea and to chase the Migs back into China to shoot them down. IOW, he wanted to win the Korean War but the UN and Truman said no and canned him. The same excuse was used against Patton earlier in late 1945 when the excuse was war weariness in the U.S. and fear of political backlash in the next election. Patton had enough candor they tried to label him as crazy. What Patton and Mac Arthur were, were students of military history and both knew the only way to a true peace was the elimination of all of the protagonists of war and Communism wanted to expand. It's as simple as that.

Right. And todays students of war learn to provide breakfast lunch and dinner to the enemy.
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(12-14-2024 04:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
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(12-14-2024 04:14 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(12-14-2024 04:10 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  
(12-14-2024 04:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  That's not exactly what Patton said. We had just defeated the Nazis and Patton was having to do occupation duty. What he said was that the Damned Bolsheviks were going to be a problem we would have to fight sooner or later, and we should fight them while we had the Army in Europe to do it with and while they were war weary and weak, mind you at this time he knew we had the bomb, and they didn't. He strongly argued that the Nazis hated them more than us and would gladly fight them if we rearmed the Wehrmacht and put them in the field under our command through their former officers of our choosing. He was right about the Soviets and had that been done Korea and Viet Nam never happen, not to mention a litany of regional actions which followed those two.

Thanks for the clarification, JR. 04-cheers

McArthur wanted to finish them off. What a much better world it would be now.

I remember learning that Patton wanted to finish them off. I don't remember MacArthur wanting to do the same thing. (I'm not saying you're wrong; just that I don't remember. 04-cheers)

Mc Arthur wanted the go ahead to take the war into North Korea and to chase the Migs back into China to shoot them down. IOW, he wanted to win the Korean War but the UN and Truman said no and canned him. The same excuse was used against Patton earlier in late 1945 when the excuse was war weariness in the U.S. and fear of political backlash in the next election. Patton had enough candor they tried to label him as crazy. What Patton and Mac Arthur were, were students of military history and both knew the only way to a true peace was the elimination of all of the protagonists of war and Communism wanted to expand. It's as simple as that.

Hopefully, that lesson will start being taught again in our service academies going forward. (Also -- and I'm sorry, but I have to do it because of my dearly departed old man -- GO NAVY! BEAT ARMY! 04-rock lol)
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(12-17-2024 08:28 AM)TripleA Wrote:  YIKES!


These people are going to kill us all. They're all worthless.
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That's unbelievable. Sick.
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"Not only am i trashy and have a tattoo...im also a sociopath"

Nature has a way of signaling the maladaptives.
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"Not only am i trashy and have a tattoo...im also a sociopath"

Nature has a way of signaling the maladaptives.

been tellin' y'all they always come TTTreys ... 03-wink

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(12-14-2024 04:35 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  
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(12-14-2024 04:22 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  
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(12-14-2024 04:10 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Thanks for the clarification, JR. 04-cheers

McArthur wanted to finish them off. What a much better world it would be now.

I remember learning that Patton wanted to finish them off. I don't remember MacArthur wanting to do the same thing. (I'm not saying you're wrong; just that I don't remember. 04-cheers)

Mc Arthur wanted the go ahead to take the war into North Korea and to chase the Migs back into China to shoot them down. IOW, he wanted to win the Korean War but the UN and Truman said no and canned him. The same excuse was used against Patton earlier in late 1945 when the excuse was war weariness in the U.S. and fear of political backlash in the next election. Patton had enough candor they tried to label him as crazy. What Patton and Mac Arthur were, were students of military history and both knew the only way to a true peace was the elimination of all of the protagonists of war and Communism wanted to expand. It's as simple as that.

Hopefully, that lesson will start being taught again in our service academies going forward. (Also -- and I'm sorry, but I have to do it because of my dearly departed old man -- GO NAVY! BEAT ARMY! 04-rock lol)



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"Not only am i trashy and have a tattoo...im also a sociopath"

Nature has a way of signaling the maladaptives.

been tellin' y'all they always come TTTreys ... 03-wink

#fk'nWhackjobbers

Really need to open a tattoo removal business. We would make Elon money in about 10 years. Frickin retards
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These fools need to quit while they're ahead. Otherwise, they're going to get gunned down by some whacko who has a grievance with them.
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(12-18-2024 01:43 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

These fools need to quit while they're ahead. Otherwise, they're going to get gunned down by some whacko who has a grievance with them.

fk that ... I want 'em to all cry, whine, and fagoo at will ... it's a training aide in muh world (what not to do, dipshites) ... 03-wink

#fullMontyDipshite-ism
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These fools need to quit while they're ahead. Otherwise, they're going to get gunned down by some whacko who has a grievance with them.

fk that ... I want 'em to all cry, whine, and fagoo at will ... it's a training aide in muh world (what not to do, dipshites) ... 03-wink

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Actually, folks it is a damned crime to urge violence, especially murder. The suckarse leadership of the cities in which this occurs needs to be held accountable because such urgings by militants should be met with arrests for the encouragement of capital crimes and insurrection.

Our problem as a nation is not laws on the books, but rather the enforcement of them. When a city government does not enforce the law it means those occupying leadership positions should be arrested as well.
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(12-18-2024 01:51 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  
(12-18-2024 01:43 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

These fools need to quit while they're ahead. Otherwise, they're going to get gunned down by some whacko who has a grievance with them.

fk that ... I want 'em to all cry, whine, and fagoo at will ... it's a training aide in muh world (what not to do, dipshites) ... 03-wink

#fullMontyDipshite-ism
Actually, folks it is a damned crime to urge violence, especially murder. The suckarse leadership of the cities in which this occurs needs to be held accountable because such urgings by militants should be met with arrests for the encouragement of capital crimes and insurrection.

Our problem as a nation is not laws on the books, but rather the enforcement of them. When a city government does not enforce the law it means those occupying leadership positions should be arrested as well.

it's inexcusable ... "the pen is mightier!"

of course, sig lines 5 and 6 are always there for backup if that pen runs out of ink ... 03-lmfao03-drunk03-lmfao

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(12-18-2024 01:51 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  
(12-18-2024 01:43 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

These fools need to quit while they're ahead. Otherwise, they're going to get gunned down by some whacko who has a grievance with them.

fk that ... I want 'em to all cry, whine, and fagoo at will ... it's a training aide in muh world (what not to do, dipshites) ... 03-wink

#fullMontyDipshite-ism
Actually, folks it is a damned crime to urge violence, especially murder. The suckarse leadership of the cities in which this occurs needs to be held accountable because such urgings by militants should be met with arrests for the encouragement of capital crimes and insurrection.

Our problem as a nation is not laws on the books, but rather the enforcement of them. When a city government does not enforce the law it means those occupying leadership positions should be arrested as well.

The city governments are run by insurrectionists. Of course they're not going to harm their own.
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I'm surprised there haven't been more signs saying more dead Republicans or more dead Trump supporters.
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