(12-11-2024 03:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 03:21 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 02:52 PM)TripleA Wrote:  More from the Pentagon spokesperson:

1. The drones are not from a foreign entity.

2. They are not our drones.

3. They pose no threat.

4. If any entity in the area feels the drones are a threat, they have the option to shoot them down.

They obviously know more than they are saying. OR, they don't know jack and refuse to do anything. Like the spy balloons. Or the screw-up with the Afghanistan withdrawal.

If 1. and 2. are true how can 3. be true?

it cannot unless muh DEI rules the roost...

That's a given.

Quote:If this “mothership” story is true, send it to Davie Jones’s locker room asap.

And how dare our government be aware of this and do nothing.

Also, those who advocate shooting these drones down over civilian populated areas would be mistaken. The chances of killing innocent Americans are too high. These drones should NEVER have been allowed to penetrate US airspace (PERIOD!).

20 January can’t get here soon enough!!!

Good grief...only the frickin' Biden admin can screw up something like this so badly.

Jan 20 needs to get here before we're in a full blown war.

And if it's not that, then this is even more stupid. Is there a single person in the Biden admin who is competent? Apparently not.

Sorry, Dems. This is WORSE than Jimmy Carter.

(12-11-2024 02:33 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 02:28 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 02:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Pentagon spokesperson just said live that Rep. Van Drew's information is incorrect. She said there is no Iranian ship off the coast.

Damn, we need some adults in charge!

Its not passing the common sense test. Why would spy drones have port and starboard lights.

This feels like some military ish

The lights reportedly disappear when they are noticed. Don't ask me how.

I don't believe it's our military b/c:

1. It would be simple to say it's a military test and there is nothing to worry about.

2. Several peeps have already said we don't have the technology to produce drones like that. For now, only China does.

3. If #2 is incorrect, then go back to #1, lol.

You believe that? We also didn't have the technology to build an SR-71 in the 1960's. You shouldn't believe anything any of them are saying. That includes the pentagon or Van Drew. It wouldn't shock me if he's in on it somehow trying to blame a foreign entity.

More info, perhaps.

NJ Repub State Senator Douglas Steinhardt, just said the following on Fox:

1. This is proving how weak and feckless the Biden admin really is. He said there are only two possibilities. They are our assets, but they're lying and keeping the info from us, or they are foreign assets, and they are failing in their duty to protect the public.

2. Jan 20 can't come soon enough. It just highlights a multitude of failures on every level.

3. This possibility has been a long time coming. We knew this. We need to marshal resources to deal with this, and they have to come from DC, and they are not prepared to handle this.

4. The rules we have in place are hampering our ability to find out more. State troopers engage them, but the drones just turn off their lights and disappear, and the troopers aren't authorized to shoot them down over populated areas.

5. What he has been told by the feds is the drones have been staying up for 6-7 hours, but they don't have typical electronics that allow us to track them.

6. He says again that we should have been prepared for this, which implies it's advanced technology by an adversary.

7. The FBI, the NJ gov and all the mayors are in the dark about this, yet the drones are spotted daily.

8. Several different sources are saying they are coming from the ocean. He was told the Coast Guard has been engaged, but he's not sure about the Navy.

Okay, this is my add-on from this point:

If the drones are coming from the ocean, then a ship is involved. If it's not our ship, then that makes Van Drew's info seem more likely. Van Drew was told that we have been tracking that ship since it left port, and it took almost a month to get here, and that at some point they discovered it was carrying all these drones.

Looks to me like the Pentagon folks are lying through their teeth, or they are unbelievably incompetent. Probably both.

(12-11-2024 04:35 PM)TripleA Wrote:  More info, perhaps.

NJ Repub State Senator Douglas Steinhardt, just said the following on Fox:

1. This is proving how weak and feckless the Biden admin really is. He said there are only two possibilities. They are our assets, but they're lying and keeping the info from us, or they are foreign assets, and they are failing in their duty to protect the public.

2. Jan 20 can't come soon enough. It just highlights a multitude of failures on every level.

3. This possibility has been a long time coming. We knew this. We need to marshal resources to deal with this, and they have to come from DC, and they are not prepared to handle this.

4. The rules we have in place are hampering our ability to find out more. State troopers engage them, but the drones just turn off their lights and disappear, and the troopers aren't authorized to shoot them down over populated areas.

5. What he has been told by the feds is the drones have been staying up for 6-7 hours, but they don't have typical electronics that allow us to track them.

6. He says again that we should have been prepared for this, which implies it's advanced technology by an adversary.

7. The FBI, the NJ gov and all the mayors are in the dark about this, yet the drones are spotted daily.

8. Several different sources are saying they are coming from the ocean. He was told the Coast Guard has been engaged, but he's not sure about the Navy.

Okay, this is my add-on from this point:

If the drones are coming from the ocean, then a ship is involved. If it's not our ship, then that makes Van Drew's info seem more likely. Van Drew was told that we have been tracking that ship since it left port, and it took almost a month to get here, and that at some point they discovered it was carrying all these drones.

Looks to me like the Pentagon folks are lying through their teeth, or they are unbelievably incompetent. Probably both.

hence, all the negative Hegseth sect/cult...

Yep, the Pentagon is FUBAR, and they don't want anybody stomping around in their playhouse, where all the big military and civilian honchos are getting fat off the relationship.

(12-11-2024 04:35 PM)TripleA Wrote:  More info, perhaps.

NJ Repub State Senator Douglas Steinhardt, just said the following on Fox:

1. This is proving how weak and feckless the Biden admin really is. He said there are only two possibilities. They are our assets, but they're lying and keeping the info from us, or they are foreign assets, and they are failing in their duty to protect the public.

2. Jan 20 can't come soon enough. It just highlights a multitude of failures on every level.

3. This possibility has been a long time coming. We knew this. We need to marshal resources to deal with this, and they have to come from DC, and they are not prepared to handle this.

4. The rules we have in place are hampering our ability to find out more. State troopers engage them, but the drones just turn off their lights and disappear, and the troopers aren't authorized to shoot them down over populated areas.

5. What he has been told by the feds is the drones have been staying up for 6-7 hours, but they don't have typical electronics that allow us to track them.

6. He says again that we should have been prepared for this, which implies it's advanced technology by an adversary.

7. The FBI, the NJ gov and all the mayors are in the dark about this, yet the drones are spotted daily.

8. Several different sources are saying they are coming from the ocean. He was told the Coast Guard has been engaged, but he's not sure about the Navy.

Okay, this is my add-on from this point:

If the drones are coming from the ocean, then a ship is involved. If it's not our ship, then that makes Van Drew's info seem more likely. Van Drew was told that we have been tracking that ship since it left port, and it took almost a month to get here, and that at some point they discovered it was carrying all these drones.

Looks to me like the Pentagon folks are lying through their teeth, or they are unbelievably incompetent. Probably both.

Thanks, CP. That guy has given us more info than anybody so far.

Btw, the video above in CP's post is a different one with Steinhardt than the one I saw on Fox. Mine was with Neil Cavuto.

(12-11-2024 01:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Geez, I've been saying this for over an hour now, and about 20 posts ago.

Rep. Van Drew said the drones are coming from an Iranian ship sitting off the NY/NJ coast in international waters.

I watched that interview above when it was live.

The real mystery is WTF hasn't the Vegetable in Chief done anything about it yet? You can set some fighter jets just off the coast and blow all the damn things out of the water.

Crackhead Bob's check from the moolahs hasn't cleared yet?

Just spitballin here.

Iranian Navy

The Government does not know

Come on folks...

This is the govt testing some new tech.

Good grief

Go buy a drone and fly it over a military base. Send us a text as soon as the black suvs pull up and then post in 5 years when you get out

Its absolutely the government.

(12-11-2024 05:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Iranian Navy

The Government does not know

Come on folks...

This is the govt testing some new tech.

Good grief

Go buy a drone and fly it over a military base. Send us a text as soon as the black suvs pull up and then post in 5 years when you get out

Its absolutely the government.

I'm in stitches right now ... (thank you boys and muh 420) ... all kinds of crAzy in da howse...

(12-11-2024 01:51 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 01:39 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 01:35 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-11-2024 01:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Geez, I've been saying this for over an hour now, and about 20 posts ago.

Rep. Van Drew said the drones are coming from an Iranian ship sitting off the NY/NJ coast in international waters.

I watched that interview above when it was live.

The real mystery is WTF hasn't the Vegetable in Chief done anything about it yet?

Sauces.



If it is Iran then our military is wholly incompetent and there should be heads roll

I surprised he didnt say Russians

I still call BS.

Wanna bet? I saw the interview. He wasn't BSing. This was coming from his contacts, not Biden's.

The military isn't going to do anything unless the President, the Commander in Chief, gives the word. We don't have one of those right now, in case you missed it, lol. This is Chinese spy balloons all over again, only 100 times worse.

Crazy. They need to capture the drones, sink the ship and dump about 50 cruise missles on Iran.

Its hard for me to accept our military is this incomptent although from postings like govt teat boy it shouldnt be a surprise

It's not incompetence when they're in on it.

(12-11-2024 02:23 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  I've been saying for a while now, WWIII has started and we have yet to engage. This country is run by imbeciles and it looks like damn near half the population are imbeciles also.

This ^

None of this is by accident nor is it caused by incompetence. Convince me that our government isn't colluding with foreign actors against us.

It's the advance guard from an alien civilization. We are frucked.

Here's New Jersey State Senator John Bramnick:





Drone expert and Fox News contributor Brett Velicovich discusses the mysterious drone sightings in New Jersey airspace:

the Velicovich vid got my att'n ... you can't fake that concern vs. faggoo congressman from NJ that led with "let me be clear...." ... yeah, fk ewe and that bs rhetoric...

(12-11-2024 03:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Here's another thought. If those drones are ours, why would the Pentagon spox say it was okay to shoot them down?

Perhaps the only people who could shoot them down is the defense department---who is not shooting them down. To be clear---I have not heard a single explanation that makes sense given what we DO know.

If they are foreign surveillance drones---why would they turn on the lights? If they are our drones---what would be the value in exposing them to our own population and to the world? If they are just large drones using basic technology flown by unknown operators----why are they being allowed to meander wherever they wish over highly secure territory? None of the explanations being floated so far by officials really make any sense.

There are explanations that might make sense----but I havent heard anyone in authority say anything that would survive even a bit of critical thinking. Here is an example of the kind of answer that might survive some critical analysis based on what little we DO know. What if they are our drones and they are searching the area for something dangerous that would create a panic if revealed (say a dirty bomb). Thats just an example of a theoretical explanation that at least fits with the facts and makes sense with respect to logical behavior. I havent heard anything that fulfills that criteria from officials thus far.

I wonder if out military has anything like this they could use:

(12-11-2024 06:36 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  I wonder if out military has anything like this they could use:

Yes---we have several similar systems---including this one I believe.