RE: Healthcare CEO Shot and Killed Outside His Midtown Manhattan Hotel
(12-04-2024 03:28 PM)bullet Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:48 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:19 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:07 PM)mlb Wrote: My first thought was that it was a disgruntled family member of someone who died because of them fighting to cover their loved one's condition. But then I saw that video... definitely seems like something even more sinister.
Just watching the video, 100% positive this was a professional hit. Zero doubt in my mind. The murder apparently occurred at 6:45am this morning — about 7.5 hrs. ago. If I am correct that the shooter is a pro, and if he hasn’t been caught by now, then he probably never will be unless somebody else chooses to give him up for whatever reason. I’m hearing he took a bike and disappeared into Central Park. Even with all the security cameras out there, that’s a needle in a haystack type of scenario for the cops.
Quote:Prayers to his family as this has to be awful.
Yes. Very much so.
Professional hit men probably don’t exist outside state sponsored intelligence orgs (Russians with a polonium dart).
I’m not saying you can’t pay someone to kill someone, I’m just saying that the highly competent professional hitman of the movies (John Wick, Grey Man) isn’t out there.
This person did seem to know what they were doing, had practiced enough to know that whatever subsonic / suppressor (weapon looks suppressed) combo they had wasn’t going to cycle and smoothly moved into manual operation.
This is less likely a paid hitman and more likely someone who is REALLY pissed at UHG. Something like they denied something for their kid and the kid died.
You don't think the MOB or Cartels don't have hit men? You hear plenty of cases also of people hiring someone to kill somebody.
100% fact there are professionals outside of state sponsored ops
RE: Healthcare CEO Shot and Killed Outside His Midtown Manhattan Hotel
(12-04-2024 02:48 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:19 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:07 PM)mlb Wrote: My first thought was that it was a disgruntled family member of someone who died because of them fighting to cover their loved one's condition. But then I saw that video... definitely seems like something even more sinister.
Just watching the video, 100% positive this was a professional hit. Zero doubt in my mind. The murder apparently occurred at 6:45am this morning — about 7.5 hrs. ago. If I am correct that the shooter is a pro, and if he hasn’t been caught by now, then he probably never will be unless somebody else chooses to give him up for whatever reason. I’m hearing he took a bike and disappeared into Central Park. Even with all the security cameras out there, that’s a needle in a haystack type of scenario for the cops.
Quote:Prayers to his family as this has to be awful.
Yes. Very much so.
Professional hit men probably don’t exist outside state sponsored intelligence orgs (Russians with a polonium dart).
I’m not saying you can’t pay someone to kill someone, I’m just saying that the highly competent professional hitman of the movies (John Wick, Grey Man) isn’t out there.
This person did seem to know what they were doing, had practiced enough to know that whatever subsonic / suppressor (weapon looks suppressed) combo they had wasn’t going to cycle and smoothly moved into manual operation.
This is less likely a paid hitman and more likely someone who is REALLY pissed at UHG. Something like they denied something for their kid and the kid died.
So you're going to use a John Wick movie to base your opinion on how professional hit men work?
RE: Healthcare CEO Shot and Killed Outside His Midtown Manhattan Hotel
(12-04-2024 04:03 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:48 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:19 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:07 PM)mlb Wrote: My first thought was that it was a disgruntled family member of someone who died because of them fighting to cover their loved one's condition. But then I saw that video... definitely seems like something even more sinister.
Just watching the video, 100% positive this was a professional hit. Zero doubt in my mind. The murder apparently occurred at 6:45am this morning — about 7.5 hrs. ago. If I am correct that the shooter is a pro, and if he hasn’t been caught by now, then he probably never will be unless somebody else chooses to give him up for whatever reason. I’m hearing he took a bike and disappeared into Central Park. Even with all the security cameras out there, that’s a needle in a haystack type of scenario for the cops.
Quote:Prayers to his family as this has to be awful.
Yes. Very much so.
Professional hit men probably don’t exist outside state sponsored intelligence orgs (Russians with a polonium dart).
I’m not saying you can’t pay someone to kill someone, I’m just saying that the highly competent professional hitman of the movies (John Wick, Grey Man) isn’t out there.
This person did seem to know what they were doing, had practiced enough to know that whatever subsonic / suppressor (weapon looks suppressed) combo they had wasn’t going to cycle and smoothly moved into manual operation.
This is less likely a paid hitman and more likely someone who is REALLY pissed at UHG. Something like they denied something for their kid and the kid died.
So you're going to use a John Wick movie to base your opinion on how professional hit men work?
in every and any capacity, it's all the cunTTTs know ... 1.5B, the piano dicktaster, and muh EV succubus is all yaz needs to knows ...
RE: Healthcare CEO Shot and Killed Outside His Midtown Manhattan Hotel
(12-04-2024 03:57 PM)maximus Wrote:
(12-04-2024 03:28 PM)bullet Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:48 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:19 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:07 PM)mlb Wrote: My first thought was that it was a disgruntled family member of someone who died because of them fighting to cover their loved one's condition. But then I saw that video... definitely seems like something even more sinister.
Just watching the video, 100% positive this was a professional hit. Zero doubt in my mind. The murder apparently occurred at 6:45am this morning — about 7.5 hrs. ago. If I am correct that the shooter is a pro, and if he hasn’t been caught by now, then he probably never will be unless somebody else chooses to give him up for whatever reason. I’m hearing he took a bike and disappeared into Central Park. Even with all the security cameras out there, that’s a needle in a haystack type of scenario for the cops.
Quote:Prayers to his family as this has to be awful.
Yes. Very much so.
Professional hit men probably don’t exist outside state sponsored intelligence orgs (Russians with a polonium dart).
I’m not saying you can’t pay someone to kill someone, I’m just saying that the highly competent professional hitman of the movies (John Wick, Grey Man) isn’t out there.
This person did seem to know what they were doing, had practiced enough to know that whatever subsonic / suppressor (weapon looks suppressed) combo they had wasn’t going to cycle and smoothly moved into manual operation.
This is less likely a paid hitman and more likely someone who is REALLY pissed at UHG. Something like they denied something for their kid and the kid died.
You don't think the MOB or Cartels don't have hit men? You hear plenty of cases also of people hiring someone to kill somebody.
100% fact there are professionals outside of state sponsored ops
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Surely you are aware EVERY military worth its salt has trained assassins. Why does any of this surprise anyone?
RE: Healthcare CEO Shot and Killed Outside His Midtown Manhattan Hotel
(12-04-2024 04:25 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:
(12-04-2024 03:57 PM)maximus Wrote:
(12-04-2024 03:28 PM)bullet Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:48 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:19 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: Just watching the video, 100% positive this was a professional hit. Zero doubt in my mind. The murder apparently occurred at 6:45am this morning — about 7.5 hrs. ago. If I am correct that the shooter is a pro, and if he hasn’t been caught by now, then he probably never will be unless somebody else chooses to give him up for whatever reason. I’m hearing he took a bike and disappeared into Central Park. Even with all the security cameras out there, that’s a needle in a haystack type of scenario for the cops.
Yes. Very much so.
Professional hit men probably don’t exist outside state sponsored intelligence orgs (Russians with a polonium dart).
I’m not saying you can’t pay someone to kill someone, I’m just saying that the highly competent professional hitman of the movies (John Wick, Grey Man) isn’t out there.
This person did seem to know what they were doing, had practiced enough to know that whatever subsonic / suppressor (weapon looks suppressed) combo they had wasn’t going to cycle and smoothly moved into manual operation.
This is less likely a paid hitman and more likely someone who is REALLY pissed at UHG. Something like they denied something for their kid and the kid died.
You don't think the MOB or Cartels don't have hit men? You hear plenty of cases also of people hiring someone to kill somebody.
100% fact there are professionals outside of state sponsored ops
Sent from my SM-S928U using Tapatalk
Surely you are aware EVERY military worth its salt has trained assassins. Why does any of this surprise anyone?
he's obviously aware ... 'muh reals' become unreal to some ... I'll never figgle out that bs in the 'why or the whine' ... any way you slice it, it's a planned hit...
RE: Healthcare CEO Shot and Killed Outside His Midtown Manhattan Hotel
(12-04-2024 05:08 PM)maximus Wrote: Live rounds left behind, this guy better have loaded that clip with gloves on or he will be identified within a day
True. If he was stupid enough to leave his prints, he might as well have sat down on the pavement and waited for the cops like the guy who shot John Lennon.
RE: Healthcare CEO Shot and Killed Outside His Midtown Manhattan Hotel
(12-04-2024 05:08 PM)maximus Wrote: Live rounds left behind, this guy better have loaded that clip with gloves on or he will be identified within a day
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He left live rounds. He was catching his spent rounds and looks like after every shot would "****" the gun, which he didn't need to do since it is a semi and would expel a live round. If I'm knocking somebody off, I'm using a revolver.
RE: Healthcare CEO Shot and Killed Outside His Midtown Manhattan Hotel
(12-04-2024 03:28 PM)bullet Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:48 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:19 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:07 PM)mlb Wrote: My first thought was that it was a disgruntled family member of someone who died because of them fighting to cover their loved one's condition. But then I saw that video... definitely seems like something even more sinister.
Just watching the video, 100% positive this was a professional hit. Zero doubt in my mind. The murder apparently occurred at 6:45am this morning — about 7.5 hrs. ago. If I am correct that the shooter is a pro, and if he hasn’t been caught by now, then he probably never will be unless somebody else chooses to give him up for whatever reason. I’m hearing he took a bike and disappeared into Central Park. Even with all the security cameras out there, that’s a needle in a haystack type of scenario for the cops.
Quote:Prayers to his family as this has to be awful.
Yes. Very much so.
Professional hit men probably don’t exist outside state sponsored intelligence orgs (Russians with a polonium dart).
I’m not saying you can’t pay someone to kill someone, I’m just saying that the highly competent professional hitman of the movies (John Wick, Grey Man) isn’t out there.
This person did seem to know what they were doing, had practiced enough to know that whatever subsonic / suppressor (weapon looks suppressed) combo they had wasn’t going to cycle and smoothly moved into manual operation.
This is less likely a paid hitman and more likely someone who is REALLY pissed at UHG. Something like they denied something for their kid and the kid died.
You don't think the MOB or Cartels don't have hit men? You hear plenty of cases also of people hiring someone to kill somebody.
You hear plenty of cases of people hiring cops to try and kill someone and going to jail, or random people they already know.
There isn’t some pool of highly skilled black market hit men for hire out there.
RE: Healthcare CEO Shot and Killed Outside His Midtown Manhattan Hotel
(12-04-2024 05:13 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:
(12-04-2024 05:08 PM)maximus Wrote: Live rounds left behind, this guy better have loaded that clip with gloves on or he will be identified within a day
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He left live rounds. He was catching his spent rounds and looks like after every shot would "****" the gun, which he didn't need to do since it is a semi and would expel a live round. If I'm knocking somebody off, I'm using a revolver.
He had a suppressor, the weight of the suppressor on the barrel can cause the gun not to cycle reliably. You need a Nielsen device to boost the pressure and get the pistol to cycle reliably. He may have been using a homemade can without one and had to manually cycle the slide to get another round in.
Even with one some very low power subsonic can have issues cycling.
RE: Healthcare CEO Shot and Killed Outside His Midtown Manhattan Hotel
(12-04-2024 05:22 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(12-04-2024 05:13 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:
(12-04-2024 05:08 PM)maximus Wrote: Live rounds left behind, this guy better have loaded that clip with gloves on or he will be identified within a day
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He left live rounds. He was catching his spent rounds and looks like after every shot would "****" the gun, which he didn't need to do since it is a semi and would expel a live round. If I'm knocking somebody off, I'm using a revolver.
He had a suppressor, the weight of the suppressor on the barrel can cause the gun not to cycle reliably. You need a Nielsen device to boost the pressure and get the pistol to cycle reliably. He may have been using a homemade can without one and had to manually cycle the slide to get another round in.
Even with one some very low power subsonic can have issues cycling.
heat quickly becomes the shooters enemy ... yeah, it's why he never flinched and why pro or practiced to kill ... either way, it was a planned hit...
RE: Healthcare CEO Shot and Killed Outside His Midtown Manhattan Hotel
(12-04-2024 05:15 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(12-04-2024 03:28 PM)bullet Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:48 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:19 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:07 PM)mlb Wrote: My first thought was that it was a disgruntled family member of someone who died because of them fighting to cover their loved one's condition. But then I saw that video... definitely seems like something even more sinister.
Just watching the video, 100% positive this was a professional hit. Zero doubt in my mind. The murder apparently occurred at 6:45am this morning — about 7.5 hrs. ago. If I am correct that the shooter is a pro, and if he hasn’t been caught by now, then he probably never will be unless somebody else chooses to give him up for whatever reason. I’m hearing he took a bike and disappeared into Central Park. Even with all the security cameras out there, that’s a needle in a haystack type of scenario for the cops.
Quote:Prayers to his family as this has to be awful.
Yes. Very much so.
Professional hit men probably don’t exist outside state sponsored intelligence orgs (Russians with a polonium dart).
I’m not saying you can’t pay someone to kill someone, I’m just saying that the highly competent professional hitman of the movies (John Wick, Grey Man) isn’t out there.
This person did seem to know what they were doing, had practiced enough to know that whatever subsonic / suppressor (weapon looks suppressed) combo they had wasn’t going to cycle and smoothly moved into manual operation.
This is less likely a paid hitman and more likely someone who is REALLY pissed at UHG. Something like they denied something for their kid and the kid died.
You don't think the MOB or Cartels don't have hit men? You hear plenty of cases also of people hiring someone to kill somebody.
You hear plenty of cases of people hiring cops to try and kill someone and going to jail, or random people they already know.
There isn’t some pool of highly skilled black market hit men for hire out there.
RE: Healthcare CEO Shot and Killed Outside His Midtown Manhattan Hotel
(12-04-2024 04:03 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:48 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:19 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:
(12-04-2024 02:07 PM)mlb Wrote: My first thought was that it was a disgruntled family member of someone who died because of them fighting to cover their loved one's condition. But then I saw that video... definitely seems like something even more sinister.
Just watching the video, 100% positive this was a professional hit. Zero doubt in my mind. The murder apparently occurred at 6:45am this morning — about 7.5 hrs. ago. If I am correct that the shooter is a pro, and if he hasn’t been caught by now, then he probably never will be unless somebody else chooses to give him up for whatever reason. I’m hearing he took a bike and disappeared into Central Park. Even with all the security cameras out there, that’s a needle in a haystack type of scenario for the cops.
Quote:Prayers to his family as this has to be awful.
Yes. Very much so.
Professional hit men probably don’t exist outside state sponsored intelligence orgs (Russians with a polonium dart).
I’m not saying you can’t pay someone to kill someone, I’m just saying that the highly competent professional hitman of the movies (John Wick, Grey Man) isn’t out there.
This person did seem to know what they were doing, had practiced enough to know that whatever subsonic / suppressor (weapon looks suppressed) combo they had wasn’t going to cycle and smoothly moved into manual operation.
This is less likely a paid hitman and more likely someone who is REALLY pissed at UHG. Something like they denied something for their kid and the kid died.
So you're going to use a John Wick movie to base your opinion on how professional hit men work?
No, I’m assuming the original poster is basing his frame of reference on movies as he thinks professional hitmen are an actual thing.
RE: Healthcare CEO Shot and Killed Outside His Midtown Manhattan Hotel
(12-04-2024 05:33 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(12-04-2024 04:03 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote: So you're going to use a John Wick movie to base your opinion on how professional hit men work?
No, I’m assuming the original poster is basing his frame of reference on movies as he thinks professional hitmen are an actual thing.
I’m sure that at some point in my life I saw a tv/movie that had a “professional hitman” as a character. But I don’t think those kinds of shows represent real life. Not even close. At the same time, yeah I do believe that there are some people out there who are ready, willing, and able to kill a random stranger (to them) in exchange for $$$. For now, I suspect that is what happened in this case.
Meanwhile, it appears that Brian Thompson’s killer walked into a Manhattan Starbucks about 25 min. before the shooting, and stood at the counter for a brief time to place his order. This allowed his face to be partially photographed (eyes and nose, skin color), and possibly (very doubtful — but possible) allowed a barista to observe his eye-color, hear his voice, etc. All of which does cause me to doubt my own theory. So, we’ll see.
(This post was last modified: 12-04-2024 06:06 PM by Native Georgian.)
RE: Healthcare CEO Shot and Killed Outside His Midtown Manhattan Hotel
(12-04-2024 05:58 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:
(12-04-2024 05:33 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(12-04-2024 04:03 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote: So you're going to use a John Wick movie to base your opinion on how professional hit men work?
No, I’m assuming the original poster is basing his frame of reference on movies as he thinks professional hitmen are an actual thing.
I’m sure that at some point in my life I saw a tv/movie that had a “professional hitman” as a character. But I don’t think those kinds of shows represent real life. Not even close. At the same time, yeah I do believe that there are some people out there who are ready, willing, and able to kill a random stranger (to them) in exchange for $$$. For now, I suspect that is what happened in this case.
Meanwhile, it appears that Brian Thompson’s killer walked into a Manhattan Starbucks about 25 min. before the shooting, and stood at the counter for a brief time to place his order. This allowed his face to be partially photographed (eyes and nose, skin color), and possibly (very doubtful — but possible) allowed a barista to observe his eye-color, hear his voice, etc. All of which does cause me to doubt my own theory. So, we’ll see.
RE: Healthcare CEO Shot and Killed Outside His Midtown Manhattan Hotel
(12-04-2024 06:09 PM)bullet Wrote:
(12-04-2024 05:58 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:
(12-04-2024 05:33 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:
(12-04-2024 04:03 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote: So you're going to use a John Wick movie to base your opinion on how professional hit men work?
No, I’m assuming the original poster is basing his frame of reference on movies as he thinks professional hitmen are an actual thing.
I’m sure that at some point in my life I saw a tv/movie that had a “professional hitman” as a character. But I don’t think those kinds of shows represent real life. Not even close. At the same time, yeah I do believe that there are some people out there who are ready, willing, and able to kill a random stranger (to them) in exchange for $$$. For now, I suspect that is what happened in this case.
Meanwhile, it appears that Brian Thompson’s killer walked into a Manhattan Starbucks about 25 min. before the shooting, and stood at the counter for a brief time to place his order. This allowed his face to be partially photographed (eyes and nose, skin color), and possibly (very doubtful — but possible) allowed a barista to observe his eye-color, hear his voice, etc. All of which does cause me to doubt my own theory. So, we’ll see.
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