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(12-04-2024 02:20 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
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(12-04-2024 01:53 PM)VA49er Wrote:  It's appalling to read online all the people that that think this murder is justified.

It was a straight assassination, like something out of a movie

The responses online celebrating a man's death have been horrid

lmmfao ... like it's never happened if "movie" is removed from your statement...

what world do you gated folks live within...

welcome to reality in the 21st...

Have you seen the video? It was not an random act of violence, it was a targeted hit...again like something you would see in a mob or spy movie

I alluded to such in muh first post, mr. density ... keep up, bruv...

it's sad too many think they're 'insulated' ... that's what's really sad...
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Your first post seemed to make light of the incident
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(12-04-2024 02:19 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(12-04-2024 02:07 PM)mlb Wrote:  My first thought was that it was a disgruntled family member of someone who died because of them fighting to cover their loved one's condition. But then I saw that video... definitely seems like something even more sinister.
Just watching the video, 100% positive this was a professional hit. Zero doubt in my mind. The murder apparently occurred at 6:45am this morning — about 7.5 hrs. ago. If I am correct that the shooter is a pro, and if he hasn’t been caught by now, then he probably never will be unless somebody else chooses to give him up for whatever reason. I’m hearing he took a bike and disappeared into Central Park. Even with all the security cameras out there, that’s a needle in a haystack type of scenario for the cops.

Quote:Prayers to his family as this has to be awful.
Yes. Very much so.

Professional hit men probably don’t exist outside state sponsored intelligence orgs (Russians with a polonium dart).

I’m not saying you can’t pay someone to kill someone, I’m just saying that the highly competent professional hitman of the movies (John Wick, Grey Man) isn’t out there.

This person did seem to know what they were doing, had practiced enough to know that whatever subsonic / suppressor (weapon looks suppressed) combo they had wasn’t going to cycle and smoothly moved into manual operation.

This is less likely a paid hitman and more likely someone who is REALLY pissed at UHG. Something like they denied something for their kid and the kid died.
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(12-04-2024 02:45 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Your first post seemed to make light of the incident

read thru the subsequent bang bang posts ... I don't do diatribes ... it's a waste time if early w/o knowing any other than the initial post...
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(12-04-2024 02:48 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(12-04-2024 02:19 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(12-04-2024 02:07 PM)mlb Wrote:  My first thought was that it was a disgruntled family member of someone who died because of them fighting to cover their loved one's condition. But then I saw that video... definitely seems like something even more sinister.
Just watching the video, 100% positive this was a professional hit. Zero doubt in my mind. The murder apparently occurred at 6:45am this morning — about 7.5 hrs. ago. If I am correct that the shooter is a pro, and if he hasn’t been caught by now, then he probably never will be unless somebody else chooses to give him up for whatever reason. I’m hearing he took a bike and disappeared into Central Park. Even with all the security cameras out there, that’s a needle in a haystack type of scenario for the cops.

Quote:Prayers to his family as this has to be awful.
Yes. Very much so.

Professional hit men probably don’t exist outside state sponsored intelligence orgs (Russians with a polonium dart).

I’m not saying you can’t pay someone to kill someone, I’m just saying that the highly competent professional hitman of the movies (John Wick, Grey Man) isn’t out there.

This person did seem to know what they were doing, had practiced enough to know that whatever subsonic / suppressor (weapon looks suppressed) combo they had wasn’t going to cycle and smoothly moved into manual operation.

This is less likely a paid hitman and more likely someone who is REALLY pissed at UHG. Something like they denied something for their kid and the kid died.

that would be my assumption ... if = 1, there's more than one nuts zongo ... 03-wink
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(12-04-2024 01:53 PM)VA49er Wrote:  It's appalling to read online all the people that that think this murder is justified.

As someone who has had to deal with that company, I feel for his kids.
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(12-04-2024 01:53 PM)VA49er Wrote:  It's appalling to read online all the people that that think this murder is justified.

In a country of well over 300 million and mostly anonymous social media, it's not hard for ******** and idiots to get attention.

Prayers for his family and friends.
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(12-04-2024 02:48 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  I’m not saying you can’t pay someone to kill someone, I’m just saying that the highly competent professional hitman of the movies (John Wick, Grey Man) isn’t out there.
And I’m not saying this was a John Wick-type scenario. But unless he left behind some incriminating evidence that we haven't (yet) heard about, it does appear to have been a staged hit, meticulously planned and executed by someone who has done this sort of thing before.

Quote:This person did seem to know what they were doing, had practiced enough to know that whatever subsonic / suppressor (weapon looks suppressed) combo they had wasn’t going to cycle and smoothly moved into manual operation.
Quite so.

Quote:This is less likely a paid hitman and more likely someone who is REALLY pissed at UHG. Something like they denied something for their kid and the kid died.
I won’t say that is impossible, but for someone with a deep emotional investment, it’s hard to do the planning/staging and the shooting and the getaway without leaving some sort of trail. If that happened here, we will probably hear about it very soon.

For now, my guess is that the kind of person you describe initiated it, but someone else with some degree of clinical detachment did the deed.
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(12-04-2024 02:00 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(12-04-2024 01:53 PM)VA49er Wrote:  It's appalling to read online all the people that that think this murder is justified.

It was a straight assassination, like something out of a movie

The responses online celebrating a man's death have been horrid

Does he have an ex-wife? That would be the most likely.

United was always horrible. I had to deal with them for decades. I haven't dealt with them using AI, but I dealt with them before that. They basically denied and hoped you wouldn't pursue it. They lost lawsuits over their fake internally generated Reasonable and Customary.
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(12-04-2024 02:48 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(12-04-2024 02:19 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(12-04-2024 02:07 PM)mlb Wrote:  My first thought was that it was a disgruntled family member of someone who died because of them fighting to cover their loved one's condition. But then I saw that video... definitely seems like something even more sinister.
Just watching the video, 100% positive this was a professional hit. Zero doubt in my mind. The murder apparently occurred at 6:45am this morning — about 7.5 hrs. ago. If I am correct that the shooter is a pro, and if he hasn’t been caught by now, then he probably never will be unless somebody else chooses to give him up for whatever reason. I’m hearing he took a bike and disappeared into Central Park. Even with all the security cameras out there, that’s a needle in a haystack type of scenario for the cops.

Quote:Prayers to his family as this has to be awful.
Yes. Very much so.

Professional hit men probably don’t exist outside state sponsored intelligence orgs (Russians with a polonium dart).

I’m not saying you can’t pay someone to kill someone, I’m just saying that the highly competent professional hitman of the movies (John Wick, Grey Man) isn’t out there.

This person did seem to know what they were doing, had practiced enough to know that whatever subsonic / suppressor (weapon looks suppressed) combo they had wasn’t going to cycle and smoothly moved into manual operation.

This is less likely a paid hitman and more likely someone who is REALLY pissed at UHG. Something like they denied something for their kid and the kid died.

You don't think the MOB or Cartels don't have hit men? You hear plenty of cases also of people hiring someone to kill somebody.
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It was a hit by a foreign entity. Remember, anybody in the world can come into this country, especially New York. Either somebody or some entity lost a lot of money on UHC from him selling his stock and making $15million and they want it back in blood.
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(12-04-2024 03:24 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(12-04-2024 02:00 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(12-04-2024 01:53 PM)VA49er Wrote:  It's appalling to read online all the people that that think this murder is justified.

It was a straight assassination, like something out of a movie

The responses online celebrating a man's death have been horrid

Does he have an ex-wife? That would be the most likely.

United was always horrible. I had to deal with them for decades. I haven't dealt with them using AI, but I dealt with them before that. They basically denied and hoped you wouldn't pursue it. They lost lawsuits over their fake internally generated Reasonable and Customary.

hence, the theme of the 'rainmaker' posts ... it's a gimme putt with folks like 'these' ... again, as the noose tightens, this will become more commonplace ... better tighten up buttercups ... once the boomers are gone, it's going to become a free-for-all...







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(12-04-2024 03:31 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  It was a hit by a foreign entity. Remember, anybody in the world can come into this country, especially New York. Either somebody or some entity lost a lot of money on UHC from him selling his stock and making $15million and they want it back in blood.


which is easily plausible...
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after watching that, he's a either a pro, or has practiced the art of revenge/assassination ... he never shook a leaf, and didn't panic when the gun apparently jammed...

it's strange how long it took him to exit the scene ... not sure how to process that move (shock vs. ensure the kill)
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(12-04-2024 03:41 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
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after watching that, he's a either a pro, or has practiced the art of revenge/assassination ... he never shook a leaf, and didn't panic when the gun apparently jammed...

it's strange how long it took him to exit the scene ... not sure how to process that move (shock vs. ensure the kill)

And he walked right in front of a car with at least one person in it. All that person had to do was press the gas and pin him against the car in front of them, and this would be solved. Guess they didn't want to be indicted for vehicular manslaughter by the DA.
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(12-04-2024 03:48 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
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(12-04-2024 03:35 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

after watching that, he's a either a pro, or has practiced the art of revenge/assassination ... he never shook a leaf, and didn't panic when the gun apparently jammed...

it's strange how long it took him to exit the scene ... not sure how to process that move (shock vs. ensure the kill)

And he walked right in front of a car with at least one person in it. All that person had to do was press the gas and pin him against the car in front of them, and this would be solved. Guess they didn't want to be indicted for vehicular manslaughter by the DA.

even if they saw it happen (highly unlikely) .... but yeah ... there's not a snowball's I interfere in that city/state of shite-ism...
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(12-04-2024 03:48 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
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(12-04-2024 03:35 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

after watching that, he's a either a pro, or has practiced the art of revenge/assassination ... he never shook a leaf, and didn't panic when the gun apparently jammed...

it's strange how long it took him to exit the scene ... not sure how to process that move (shock vs. ensure the kill)

And he walked right in front of a car with at least one person in it. All that person had to do was press the gas and pin him against the car in front of them, and this would be solved. Guess they didn't want to be indicted for vehicular manslaughter by the DA.

I wouldn't wanna get involved in anything in NYC
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