(03-28-2024 08:08 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  The only joke is you, not knowing apparently that people will pay more than the value for something once owned by a celebrity.

Sure hope the "prestige" was worth the $4M bath the dude took when selling it.

(03-28-2024 08:18 AM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  

(03-28-2024 08:08 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  The only joke is you, not knowing apparently that people will pay more than the value for something once owned by a celebrity.

Sure hope the "prestige" was worth the $4M bath the dude took when selling it.

Isn't Trump a celebrity? So surely overvaluing is legal or is it because he no longer is a Democrat and now a Republican the same rules don't apply...

(03-28-2024 08:08 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  He broke no laws, nor lied on financial forms submitted to the state.

Nor did Donald Trump. Except in the eyes of an incredibly biased prosecutor and judge.

This "trial" rivals anything that Nazi Germany or Communist USSR ever did.

(03-28-2024 08:08 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  He broke no laws, nor lied on financial forms submitted to the state.

Nor did Donald Trump. Except in the eyes of an incredibly biased prosecutor and judge.

This "trial" rivals anything that Nazi Germany or Communist USSR ever did.

(03-28-2024 08:08 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  He broke no laws, nor lied on financial forms submitted to the state.

Nor did Donald Trump. Except in the eyes of an incredibly biased prosecutor and judge.

This "trial" rivals anything that Nazi Germany or Communist USSR ever did.

(03-28-2024 08:18 AM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  

(03-28-2024 08:08 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  The only joke is you, not knowing apparently that people will pay more than the value for something once owned by a celebrity.

Sure hope the "prestige" was worth the $4M bath the dude took when selling it.

I'm sure you can find many examples of people making bad investments, like buying Jon Voight's car.

(03-28-2024 08:19 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(03-28-2024 08:18 AM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  

(03-28-2024 08:08 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  The only joke is you, not knowing apparently that people will pay more than the value for something once owned by a celebrity.

Sure hope the "prestige" was worth the $4M bath the dude took when selling it.

Isn't Trump a celebrity? So surely overvaluing is legal or is it because he no longer is a Democrat and now a Republican the same rules don't apply...

Dude, you REALLY don't play stupid very well.

You can say something is worth anything you want. trump does it all the time, like claiming MAL is worth billions.

What you can't do, is file fraudulent forms with the state.

(03-28-2024 08:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  What you can't do, is file fraudulent forms with the state.

Which he didn't do. He filed a statement of opinion, which by definition cannot be fraudulent.

Valuation of commercial real estate is more opinion than exact science. That's very different from residential real estate, but you are trying to apply the residential process to commercial. For residential, things like how many square feet, how many bathrooms, how big a garage, how many bedrroms, location, are all easily knowable and permit easy valculation. For commercial, it's all based on cash flow, which is a much harder concept to grasp. I can drastically alter the value of commercial real estate by getting a new tenant. Residential doesn't work that way.

The banks have testified that they didn't lose a nickel. If the real estate tax people did, it's their own fault for not doing a proper appraisal.

(03-28-2024 08:50 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-28-2024 08:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  What you can't do, is file fraudulent forms with the state.

Which he didn't do. He filed a statement of opinion, which by definition cannot be fraudulent.

Valuation of commercial real estate is more opinion than exact science. That's very different from residential real estate, but you are trying to apply the residential process to commercial. For residential, things like how many square feet, how many bathrooms, how big a garage, how many bedrroms, location, are all easily knowable and permit easy valculation. For commercial, it's all based on cash flow, which is a much harder concept to grasp. I can drastically alter the value of commercial real estate by getting a new tenant. Residential doesn't work that way.

The banks have testified that they didn't lose a nickel. If the real estate tax people did, it's their own fault for not doing a proper appraisal.

Why do you even bother? There's nothing you can say to him that will make him say anything other than blah blah blah Trump yada yada yada...

(03-27-2024 10:43 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 10:37 AM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 08:44 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 08:33 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(03-27-2024 08:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I don't suppose you have video and/or the exact quotes of who said what and when, do you? If so, please share.

Why even make a stupid request like that? You don’t believe it? And yet you believe a bigger lie than that. What did the two democrat government loons say it was worth? And what did the ‘judge’ base his original guilty finding on? It makes no damn difference what anyone on the MSM said anyway. The finding was bullchit and you damn well know it and you applaud it. FO.

It's a rabbit hole.. Don't go down it.. Ignore the redwinged rabbit.

My bad. The second was CNN (not MSNBC).
https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2024...of-vpx.cnn

The first? MSNBC reported "$18M" reporting only the AG's argument and not the defendent's argument. That's tacit agreement.

Further, the CNN one is a some random RE agent making that claim, not anyone from either network.

Either way, didn't trump himself claim it was worth well over a billion?

It is you dumb commie.

Did you watch his interview on his plane? Poor ole boy is dead broke. His plane looked like a third world crack house.

Today IS the day. Hope everyone has a blessed Good Friday. Even to you Kruciff, I'll say a prayer for your lost soul.

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So many days since that day was the day....

Soooooooo many.

Buckle Up Buttercup, it's gonna happen.. Any day now...
-- Mach 2016/2017

Kruciff is perpetually stuck in "50 First Dates" land.

(05-03-2024 12:26 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Buckle Up Buttercup, it's gonna happen.. Any day now...
-- Mach 2016/2017

I still miss his arse…

@theSadist

(03-25-2024 08:38 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  As of right now, Donald Trump owes $457,721,000.00.

He has 6 hours and 35 minutes as of this post left to pay before his property starts getting seized.

Does he actually pay up or does Mar-a-lago become government property?

have those "6 hours and 35 minutes" passed yet?

(11-07-2024 12:04 PM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:  

(03-25-2024 08:38 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  As of right now, Donald Trump owes $457,721,000.00.

He has 6 hours and 35 minutes as of this post left to pay before his property starts getting seized.

Does he actually pay up or does Mar-a-lago become government property?

have those "6 hours and 35 minutes" passed yet?

*snicker*

(03-28-2024 08:20 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-28-2024 08:08 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  He broke no laws, nor lied on financial forms submitted to the state.

Nor did Donald Trump. Except in the eyes of an incredibly biased prosecutor and judge.

This "trial" rivals anything that Nazi Germany or Communist USSR ever did.

That was worth saying 3 times and giving you rep 3 times.

(03-28-2024 08:50 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-28-2024 08:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  What you can't do, is file fraudulent forms with the state.

Which he didn't do. He filed a statement of opinion, which by definition cannot be fraudulent.

Valuation of commercial real estate is more opinion than exact science. That's very different from residential real estate, but you are trying to apply the residential process to commercial. For residential, things like how many square feet, how many bathrooms, how big a garage, how many bedrroms, location, are all easily knowable and permit easy valculation. For commercial, it's all based on cash flow, which is a much harder concept to grasp. I can drastically alter the value of commercial real estate by getting a new tenant. Residential doesn't work that way.

The banks have testified that they didn't lose a nickel. If the real estate tax people did, it's their own fault for not doing a proper appraisal.

Residential is more art than science also. There are no two houses exactly the same in older neighborhoods.

I'm constantly amazed how people willingly display their ignorance of topics like the Dems on this case. But its clear they don't work in business, real estate, finance or banking.

(05-03-2024 12:33 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(05-03-2024 12:26 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Buckle Up Buttercup, it's gonna happen.. Any day now...
-- Mach 2016/2017

I still miss his arse…

@theSadist

I do too.. As a person, he was a cool guy, when it came to politics, he was more tightly wound than others but would argue tooth and nail and kept it fun..