(09-10-2024 09:58 PM)SUisBigEast4ever Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 09:57 PM)TripleA Wrote:  MacCallum said the mods tipped the scales. Trump did better on foreign policy and other things near the end.

Hume said the mods let her off the hook on the flip-flopping.

He also said Trump had a bad night. He rose to the bait repeatedly when she baited him. Brought up a lot of the old grievances like beating cheated in the 2020 election which is changing zero minds now.

Hume said due to that, Kamala had a good night, although it remains to be seen if it makes any difference.

Hannity said the biggest loser was ABC. The mods didn't push Kamala on any of her weak points. Lots of lies from her. Hannity is stuttering and unhappy b/c we got no answers on her changing positions or the economy. He said it was frustrating.

Harold Ford said this has to be a disappointment for Trump. He criticized the mods for being unfair, but he thinks Trump didn't prepare correctly. Said Kamala didn't answer many questions, but remained calm. Ford busted Trump for the "concept of a plan" remark.

Watters is waving the victory flag, as much as he can.

Harold Ford is a far leftist.

Brit Hume is a RINO (really a Democrat) and worked for ABC for awhile.

Just reporting what they said.

I listen to Ford a lot on Fox. He is def a big Dem but not far left. That's Kamala. Ford not in that neighborhood.

Yes, I have watched network news since 1952, so I know who everybody is. including Britt Hume. He is fair, and leans right.

You just don't like the answers. I'm on your side, but I'm simply reporting the commentary, not judging it.

This debate, unlike the debate on CNN three months ago, is an example of a media outlet showing which side of the political aisle it favors. (Granted, we know CNN also leans left, but the moderators from that network did a great job being fair and balanced during that debate.) I don't remember who said it on this subforum, but we're not supposed to know the political beliefs of journalists, especially those who purport to be impartial arbiters of information. ABC's left-wing bias was on full display tonight, and the American people lost as a result.

Journalism -- real journalism -- is truly dead.

(09-10-2024 09:58 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 09:51 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 09:46 PM)solohawks Wrote:  There is a set of the population that hates Trump and was looking for a reason to vote for her...she just gave it to them tonight my being better than Biden in June

True, but the kind of person you describe was not “undecided” or even “leaning”. They are either Dem. or Never-Trump and were always going to come home to Harris sooner or later, if they hadn’t already.

Perhaps

I think of people like my father in law who aren't liberal but hate Trump

They want to find a reason to vote against him and not just abstain

Obviously I don’t know your f-i-l but 99.9% of the people who “hate Trump” are going to vote for Harris — they just are. Unless they hate her, too. Such “double-haters” are a thing in politics and it takes a lot to move them to one side or the other. As well as Harris did tonight, I don’t believe this debate was anywhere near enough to do that.

(09-10-2024 10:09 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 08:48 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 08:46 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Well shite, we are doomed. She's making him look like an idiot.

DeSantis would have done MUCH better in this debate. He was my preferred choice for the nomination but we have to live with what we have…

Once again you are commenting on something you turned off 20 minutes ago...

Rontards still butt hurt.

Trump did a good job.

It was not a debate

Americans saw a man hold his own against 3 on 1

Magnificent Orange Bastard

(09-10-2024 09:46 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 09:44 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Kamala Harris just won the presidency tonight.

Winning a debate =/= winning the presidency.

Yeah, this likely changed nothing. We on the right are just disappointed that Kamals didn't implode like we hoped, which would have perhaps ended the race. Like with Biden.

But IMO, she only won with Dems already voting for her. I honestly think this swayed no undecideds either way.

Instant reaction

(09-10-2024 10:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 09:58 PM)SUisBigEast4ever Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 09:57 PM)TripleA Wrote:  MacCallum said the mods tipped the scales. Trump did better on foreign policy and other things near the end.

Hume said the mods let her off the hook on the flip-flopping.

He also said Trump had a bad night. He rose to the bait repeatedly when she baited him. Brought up a lot of the old grievances like beating cheated in the 2020 election which is changing zero minds now.

Hume said due to that, Kamala had a good night, although it remains to be seen if it makes any difference.

Hannity said the biggest loser was ABC. The mods didn't push Kamala on any of her weak points. Lots of lies from her. Hannity is stuttering and unhappy b/c we got no answers on her changing positions or the economy. He said it was frustrating.

Harold Ford said this has to be a disappointment for Trump. He criticized the mods for being unfair, but he thinks Trump didn't prepare correctly. Said Kamala didn't answer many questions, but remained calm. Ford busted Trump for the "concept of a plan" remark.

Watters is waving the victory flag, as much as he can.

Harold Ford is a far leftist.

Brit Hume is a RINO (really a Democrat) and worked for ABC for awhile.

Just reporting what they said.

I listen to Ford a lot on Fox. He is def a big Dem but not far left. That's Kamala. Ford not in that neighborhood.

Yes, I have watched network news since 1952, so I know who everybody is. including Britt Hume. He is fair, and leans right.

You just don't like the answers. I'm on your side, but I'm simply reporting the commentary, not judging it.

Ah the ford crime family. One of those ford idiiots nearly killed me going 100 moh on i 40 to nashville years ago

(09-10-2024 09:53 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Strong finish. No one on either side changed their mind but the undecideds might have been impressed with Harris's demeanor and delivery.

I'm in about the same place.

But if they have a second debate, as Fox is saying now, then Trump has time to learn a lesson. She won't be any better than she was tonight.

(09-10-2024 10:16 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 10:09 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 08:48 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 08:46 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Well shite, we are doomed. She's making him look like an idiot.

DeSantis would have done MUCH better in this debate. He was my preferred choice for the nomination but we have to live with what we have…

Once again you are commenting on something you turned off 20 minutes ago...

Rontards still butt hurt.

Trump did a good job.

It was not a debate

Americans saw a man hold his own against 3 on 1

Magnificent Orange Bastard

Exactly

Again it was TOO obvious. If they had just pressed her a little bit on her assertions then maybe they could had gotten away but they went all in on being her BFF

(09-10-2024 10:16 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Instant reaction

Useful idiot

(09-10-2024 09:51 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  The Trump slurs and attacks didn't work tonight. And because he has nothing else a very bad night for Trump and the trumpers.

Harris wasn’t exactly spectacular.

She was condescending and dodged any meaty questions.

That might be her victory

(09-10-2024 10:21 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 09:51 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  The Trump slurs and attacks didn't work tonight. And because he has nothing else a very bad night for Trump and the trumpers.

Harris wasn’t exactly spectacular.

She was condescending and dodged any meaty questions.

That might be her victory

She sounded like she received the questions in advance which she probably did. Everything sounded rehearsed and not just talking

(09-10-2024 10:09 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  The reason why every GOP candidate "buckles" is he or she feels that if he or she doesn't go into enemy territory, he or she would be seen as weak.

Such feelings are misguided. The Dems. never do that. The GOP’s don’t need to do it, either.

There is a time and a place for engaging with adversarial media, but it must be done in a way that everyone sees what’s going on. By participating in debates like this one, Trump partially validates ABC’s pretense of objectivity and non-partisanship. Never a good idea.

Quote:But yes, the legacy media need to lose the left wing bias before any outlet of theirs hosts another debate involving Republican candidates.

the portion in bold italics will never, ever happen.

(09-10-2024 10:11 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 09:58 PM)SUisBigEast4ever Wrote:  Brit Hume is a RINO (really a Democrat) and worked for ABC for a while.

Hume’s original mentor in national media was Jack Anderson, a very big name in that business long ago, who was one of the top Nixon-haters in Washington

brit hume is a certified trump hater ...

CHRIS WALLACE IN DRAG

(09-10-2024 09:09 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 09:05 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 08:37 PM)miko33 Wrote:  LOL, Trump didn’t prepare for this…. This is why politicians 71 and older need to retire.

Still voting for him because her answers are empty, but she’s doing better than he thought she would. As usual, dumb*** took her lightly

"because her answers are empty".
Really? There's something she could say that you'd believe that would change your mind?

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There is no one posting on this site whose mind will be changed. This debate is aimed at the non-engaged voters.

And he’s blowing it.

You really believe "non-engaged voters" decided tonight was the time they would become engaged?

Got one person that can't stop talking about age and I bet Trump out works him in 3 days than he does in 5. And others that believe there are people out there that has never paid any attention but they going to start tonight.

I'm not disagreeing that Trump had less than a good night. But I went into this debate knowing that and knowing the questions would be presented in a way to make him look bad.

But lets get this correct....


not a damn one of us knowns what someone who doesn't know anything about this election....

was looking for

For all we know they might not be puzzies like some on here that think a handshake matters (not calling you a puzzy or anything I just think that is fing silly comment). Personally I dont believe there are very many of "non-engaged voters" out there that tonight was going to be that night they decided to spend 2 hours of their time. But of course like I said....


none of us know that

Trump was off tonight, got way too distracted.

Harris was cogent enough to win.

Obviously the moderators went to bat for her numerous times and that helped lock up the debate for her

I doubt you will see a big jump for either candidate. Most already chose the candidate and most will not change from that. Trump may have not done as well as he could have, Harris looked and sounded like a total B, condensending and just outright ugly.

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(09-10-2024 10:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 10:16 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Instant reaction

Useful idiot

I mean, it’s accurate.

Doesn’t mean it will stick or even be that big of a deal.

(09-10-2024 10:28 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 10:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 10:16 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Instant reaction

Useful idiot

I mean, it’s accurate.

Doesn’t mean it will stick or even be that big of a deal.

Accurate why? Who says its accurate? You?

FFS