The Trump slurs and attacks didn't work tonight. And because he has nothing else a very bad night for Trump and the trumpers.

If they hated Harris as much as they do Trump they would have been all over her about flip flopping, the afghanistan pull out and the border.

But... they didn't.

And of course, the standard January 6th gotcha question is always a crowd pleaser.

(09-10-2024 09:49 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Kamala Harris earned her stripes tonight. Looked presidential. Trump looked shaken especially during the early part of the debate.

Easy to do in a friendly environment when the moderators do the attacking for you. She did fine, she just was never challenged.

(09-10-2024 09:49 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Kamala Harris earned her stripes tonight. Looked presidential. Trump looked shaken especially during the early part of the debate.

Dude walked into a 3 vs 1 ambush, there’s only so much you can do, even when you know it’s coming. He took their shot and finished strong.

(09-10-2024 09:44 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  YES! Bring up the fact she's part of the current administration and haven't done anything about what's wrong now. Hammer her on it!

Yes he waited until minute 90

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I don't think that crap will change anyone's vote either way

(09-10-2024 09:50 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 09:46 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 09:41 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 09:39 PM)PirateJP Wrote:  A blackrock commercial during a presidential debate. They’re not even trying to hide it anymore.

I'm watching Fox News. Besides, I have DirecTV and they don't have the Disney-owned channels on right now so it's probably a good thing I'm not watching that feed.

Okay. Closing statements.

They own 15% of Fox.

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I just checked, and no, Disney doesn't Fox Corporation. All they own from Fox is the entertainment side, aka 21st Century Fox Entertainment.

Black Rock owns 15% of Fox. You'd said you were watching Fox. My point was you're not getting away from it. Illusion of choice.

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(09-10-2024 09:51 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  If they hated Harris as much as they do Trump they would have been all over her about flip flopping, the afghanistan pull out and the border.

But... they didn't.

And of course, the standard January 6th gotcha question is always a crowd pleaser.

Yep, and they will never let it go.

Strong finish. No one on either side changed their mind but the undecideds might have been impressed with Harris's demeanor and delivery.

(09-10-2024 09:52 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 09:50 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 09:46 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 09:41 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 09:39 PM)PirateJP Wrote:  A blackrock commercial during a presidential debate. They’re not even trying to hide it anymore.

I'm watching Fox News. Besides, I have DirecTV and they don't have the Disney-owned channels on right now so it's probably a good thing I'm not watching that feed.

Okay. Closing statements.

They own 15% of Fox.

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I just checked, and no, Disney doesn't Fox Corporation. All they own from Fox is the entertainment side, aka 21st Century Fox Entertainment.

Black Rock owns 15% of Fox. You'd said you were watching Fox. My point was you're not getting away from it. Illusion of choice.

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Oh, I see. My mistake. I must have missed the Black Rock ad anyway.

Anyway, I apologize. I thought you meant Disney and not Black Rock. My fault.

(09-10-2024 09:49 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Kamala Harris earned her stripes tonight. Looked presidential. Trump looked shaken especially during the early part of the debate.

Well of course. Her buddies were running it.

Now let big bad presidential Kamala do a debate on Fox news with Hannity and Laura Ingrahm as moderators.

(09-10-2024 09:53 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Strong finish. No one on either side changed their mind but the undecideds might have been impressed with Harris's demeanor and delivery.

I keep hearing she had good demeanor. How did she? I said it a few pages back but she kept rolling her eyes, scowling and shaking her head uncontrollably to his answers. His demeanor was way better than hers.

(09-10-2024 09:53 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Strong finish. No one on either side changed their mind but the undecideds might have been impressed with Harris's demeanor and delivery.

Her facial expressions were so rehearsed that it was irritating.

(09-10-2024 09:52 PM)Claw Wrote:  I don't think that crap will change anyone's vote either way

Nope. Trump still has this. She didn’t say anything that would improve the terrible Biden economy and she’s incapable of fixing the border.

MacCallum said the mods tipped the scales. Trump did better on foreign policy and other things near the end.

Hume said the mods let her off the hook on the flip-flopping.

He also said Trump had a bad night. He rose to the bait repeatedly when she baited him. Brought up a lot of the old grievances like beating cheated in the 2020 election which is changing zero minds now.

Hume said due to that, Kamala had a good night, although it remains to be seen if it makes any difference.

Hannity said the biggest loser was ABC. The mods didn't push Kamala on any of her weak points. Lots of lies from her. Hannity is stuttering and unhappy b/c we got no answers on her changing positions or the economy. He said it was frustrating.

Harold Ford said this has to be a disappointment for Trump. He criticized the mods for being unfair, but he thinks Trump didn't prepare correctly. Said Kamala didn't answer many questions, but remained calm. Ford busted Trump for the "concept of a plan" remark. He thinks Kamala won the debate.

Watters is waving the victory flag, as much as he can, but he's not convincing.

Our Vice President, and next President, just delivered a master class in controlling a debate and baiting Donald Trump. Well done and forward to the White House!

Trump missed some opportunities, but he did mention that he fired people who were incompetent at their jobs.

ABC sucks. No more debates moderated by them.

(09-10-2024 09:57 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  Our Vice President, and next President, just delivered a master class in controlling a debate and baiting Donald Trump. Well done and forward to the White House!

(09-10-2024 09:51 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(09-10-2024 09:46 PM)solohawks Wrote:  There is a set of the population that hates Trump and was looking for a reason to vote for her...she just gave it to them tonight my being better than Biden in June

True, but the kind of person you describe was not “undecided” or even “leaning”. They are either Dem. or Never-Trump and were always going to come home to Harris sooner or later, if they hadn’t already.

Perhaps

I think of people like my father in law who aren't liberal but hate Trump

They want to find a reason to vote against him and not just abstain

(09-10-2024 09:57 PM)TripleA Wrote:  MacCallum said the mods tipped the scales. Trump did better on foreign policy and other things near the end.

Hume said the mods let her off the hook on the flip-flopping.

He also said Trump had a bad night. He rose to the bait repeatedly when she baited him. Brought up a lot of the old grievances like beating cheated in the 2020 election which is changing zero minds now.

Hume said due to that, Kamala had a good night, although it remains to be seen if it makes any difference.

Hannity said the biggest loser was ABC. The mods didn't push Kamala on any of her weak points. Lots of lies from her. Hannity is stuttering and unhappy b/c we got no answers on her changing positions or the economy. He said it was frustrating.

Harold Ford said this has to be a disappointment for Trump. He criticized the mods for being unfair, but he thinks Trump didn't prepare correctly. Said Kamala didn't answer many questions, but remained calm. Ford busted Trump for the "concept of a plan" remark.

Watters is waving the victory flag, as much as he can.

Harold Ford is a far leftist.

Brit Hume is a RINO (really a Democrat) and worked for ABC for awhile.