(09-01-2024 08:09 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 09:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 08:49 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  These s/ all go to museums.

They don't b/c they want to rewrite history.

The Party of professors, doctors, academics, not in favor of that, it's heartbreaking.

Agree. They want to erase all vestiges of a free society and any reference to our founders. The socialist way...

A free society as long as you were a white male landowner.

Don’t get too high and mighty about the good old days.

The good old days weren’t very long ago. Lib nutjobs began to ruin everything just a few short years ago.

Such a shame. Now, if libs touch it or even talk about it, it’s ruined.

(08-31-2024 08:10 PM)450bench Wrote:  My aunt and uncle bought a house in the marina district of San Francisco years ago back when it was one of the best city’s on the planet. Upon their passing a couple of years, my dad sold it immediately. I asked him why he sold it and he said “great neighborhood” but the rest of the once beautiful city “is now a garbage dump.”
Such a shame.

Liberals destroy everything they touch.

a house in the Marina District of San Francisco will currently set you back between 3 mil to 6 million dollars… a lot of dough for a dump.

I was just in SF last October… it is incomparable to Memphis, Birmingham, Jackson, Little Rock, Charlotte, Dallas, Houston & even Nashville. The idea of SF being a dump is just right wing nonsense… it is still the most beautiful city in America but conversely one of the most expensive.

(09-01-2024 11:13 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 08:09 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 09:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 08:49 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  These s/ all go to museums.

They don't b/c they want to rewrite history.

The Party of professors, doctors, academics, not in favor of that, it's heartbreaking.

Agree. They want to erase all vestiges of a free society and any reference to our founders. The socialist way...

A free society as long as you were a white male landowner.

Don’t get too high and mighty about the good old days.

The good old days weren’t very long ago. Lib nutjobs began to ruin everything just a few short years ago.

Such a shame. Now, if libs touch it or even talk about it, it’s ruined.

I’m pretty sure the statues they are going to recommend changing aren’t from a few short years ago. The statues people want to remove are of people that owned other humans as property.

(09-01-2024 12:27 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 08:10 PM)450bench Wrote:  My aunt and uncle bought a house in the marina district of San Francisco years ago back when it was one of the best city’s on the planet. Upon their passing a couple of years, my dad sold it immediately. I asked him why he sold it and he said “great neighborhood” but the rest of the once beautiful city “is now a garbage dump.”
Such a shame.

Liberals destroy everything they touch.

a house in the Marina District of San Francisco will currently set you back between 3 mil to 6 million dollars… a lot of dough for a dump.

I was just in SF last October… it is incomparable to Memphis, Birmingham, Jackson, Little Rock, Charlotte, Dallas, Houston & even Nashville. The idea of SF being a dump is just right wing nonsense… it is still the most beautiful city in America but conversely one of the most expensive.

Hey genius, he didn't say that neighborhood was a dump, he said the rest of SF was. Reading comprehension is fun. Try it.

(09-01-2024 10:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 08:09 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 09:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 08:49 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  These s/ all go to museums.

They don't b/c they want to rewrite history.

The Party of professors, doctors, academics, not in favor of that, it's heartbreaking.

Agree. They want to erase all vestiges of a free society and any reference to our founders. The socialist way...

A free society as long as you were a white male landowner.

Don’t get too high and mighty about the good old days.

And you're ignoring the real reason they want to remove statues. It happens in every society where leaders become tyrannical. They want to erase any reference to a time where people had more freedom than what they intend to allow.

A time where white people had freedom to own other humans as property?

You long for the days of “freedom” to own slaves?

Like I said, a free society if you were a white male landowner.

(09-01-2024 12:27 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 08:10 PM)450bench Wrote:  My aunt and uncle bought a house in the marina district of San Francisco years ago back when it was one of the best city’s on the planet. Upon their passing a couple of years, my dad sold it immediately. I asked him why he sold it and he said “great neighborhood” but the rest of the once beautiful city “is now a garbage dump.”
Such a shame.

Liberals destroy everything they touch.

a house in the Marina District of San Francisco will currently set you back between 3 mil to 6 million dollars… a lot of dough for a dump.

I was just in SF last October… it is incomparable to Memphis, Birmingham, Jackson, Little Rock, Charlotte, Dallas, Houston & even Nashville. The idea of SF being a dump is just right wing nonsense… it is still the most beautiful city in America but conversely one of the most expensive.

Yes, it sold for a fortune. The neighborhood and street the house is on is fantastic. And yes SanFrancisco is still physically beautiful. Unfortunately it is a crime riddled junk yard of a city now. It’s truly a shadow of its former self.

(09-01-2024 12:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 10:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 08:09 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 09:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 08:49 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  These s/ all go to museums.

They don't b/c they want to rewrite history.

The Party of professors, doctors, academics, not in favor of that, it's heartbreaking.

Agree. They want to erase all vestiges of a free society and any reference to our founders. The socialist way...

A free society as long as you were a white male landowner.

Don’t get too high and mighty about the good old days.

And you're ignoring the real reason they want to remove statues. It happens in every society where leaders become tyrannical. They want to erase any reference to a time where people had more freedom than what they intend to allow.

A time where white people had freedom to own other humans as property?

You long for the days of “freedom” to own slaves?

Like I said, a free society if you were a white male landowner.

You guys use slavery, something that was abolished in this country 160 years ago, as a bludgeon to justify your POV, which is to destroy freedom and establish a one-party system.

Sort of slavery in reverse.

(09-01-2024 12:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 10:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 08:09 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 09:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 08:49 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  These s/ all go to museums.

They don't b/c they want to rewrite history.

The Party of professors, doctors, academics, not in favor of that, it's heartbreaking.

Agree. They want to erase all vestiges of a free society and any reference to our founders. The socialist way...

A free society as long as you were a white male landowner.

Don’t get too high and mighty about the good old days.

And you're ignoring the real reason they want to remove statues. It happens in every society where leaders become tyrannical. They want to erase any reference to a time where people had more freedom than what they intend to allow.

A time where white people had freedom to own other humans as property?

You long for the days of “freedom” to own slaves?

Like I said, a free society if you were a white male landowner.

Something you must of forgot or did you.

A time where black people had freedom to own other humans as property?

You long for the days of “freedom” to own slaves?

Like I said, a free society if you were a black male landowner.

(09-01-2024 12:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 10:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 08:09 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 09:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 08:49 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  These s/ all go to museums.

They don't b/c they want to rewrite history.

The Party of professors, doctors, academics, not in favor of that, it's heartbreaking.

Agree. They want to erase all vestiges of a free society and any reference to our founders. The socialist way...

A free society as long as you were a white male landowner.

Don’t get too high and mighty about the good old days.

And you're ignoring the real reason they want to remove statues. It happens in every society where leaders become tyrannical. They want to erase any reference to a time where people had more freedom than what they intend to allow.

A time where white people had freedom to own other humans as property?

You long for the days of “freedom” to own slaves?

Like I said, a free society if you were a white male landowner.

And for a time, free black people could even “own” the services of white indentured servants in Virginia as well. Free blacks owned slaves in Boston by 1724 and in Connecticut by 1783; by 1790, 48 black people in Maryland owned 143 slaves. One particularly notorious black Maryland farmer named Nat Butler “regularly purchased and sold Negroes for the Southern trade,” Halliburton wrote.

Is there outright discrimination of Blacks today? I don't think so as a matter of fact I think that the one discriminated now is the White man. If a Martian happened to watch American television he would think that Blacks comprised the majority in the US when in fact they only comprised what is it, 13%? Nowadays I would venture to say around 75% of the people on television and other venues are Black so no, I don't think they are being discriminated. Today is the moden heyday of Black opportunity. We have them in the SC even if they can't tell you the difference between a man and a woman. We have them in elite universities where DEI reigns and is the reason they're in those elite positions.

If we really wanted to approportion their numbers to stop privilege they would be in 13% of every business, institution, etc. In other words they have nothing to biatch about, they have it made. Those that are outside looking in have only themselves to blame.

(09-01-2024 02:07 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Is there outright discrimination of Blacks today? I don't think so as a matter of fact I think that the one discriminated now is the White man. If a Martian happened to watch American television he would think that Blacks comprised the majority in the US when in fact they only comprised what is it, 13%? Nowadays I would venture to say around 75% of the people on television and other venues are Black so no, I don't think they are being discriminated. Today is the moden heyday of Black opportunity. We have them in the SC even if they can't tell you the difference between a man and a woman. We have them in elite universities where DEI reigns and is the reason they're in those elite positions.

If we really wanted to approportion their numbers to stop privilege they would be in 13% of every business, institution, etc. In other words they have nothing to biatch about, they have it made. Those that are outside looking in have only themselves to blame.

Great points

(09-01-2024 01:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 12:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 10:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 08:09 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 09:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Agree. They want to erase all vestiges of a free society and any reference to our founders. The socialist way...

A free society as long as you were a white male landowner.

Don’t get too high and mighty about the good old days.

And you're ignoring the real reason they want to remove statues. It happens in every society where leaders become tyrannical. They want to erase any reference to a time where people had more freedom than what they intend to allow.

A time where white people had freedom to own other humans as property?

You long for the days of “freedom” to own slaves?

Like I said, a free society if you were a white male landowner.

You guys use slavery, something that was abolished in this country 160 years ago, as a bludgeon to justify your POV, which is to destroy freedom and establish a one-party system.

Sort of slavery in reverse.

You guys are getting mad because they want to take down statues of people who owned slaves, and your argument is that the government doesn’t want to remind people of the freedoms they took away.

You seem suspiciously upset that the government took away the freedom to own other people.

(09-01-2024 02:17 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 01:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 12:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 10:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 08:09 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  A free society as long as you were a white male landowner.

Don’t get too high and mighty about the good old days.

And you're ignoring the real reason they want to remove statues. It happens in every society where leaders become tyrannical. They want to erase any reference to a time where people had more freedom than what they intend to allow.

A time where white people had freedom to own other humans as property?

You long for the days of “freedom” to own slaves?

Like I said, a free society if you were a white male landowner.

You guys use slavery, something that was abolished in this country 160 years ago, as a bludgeon to justify your POV, which is to destroy freedom and establish a one-party system.

Sort of slavery in reverse.

You guys are getting mad because they want to take down statues of people who owned slaves, and your argument is that the government doesn’t want to remind people of the freedoms they took away.

You seem suspiciously upset that the government took away the freedom to own other people.

You probably want to prosecute Charlie Manson’s offspring for the crimes he himself committed in 1969.

Typical liberal logic that makes no sense.

Pretzel logic.

(09-01-2024 01:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 12:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 10:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 08:09 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 09:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Agree. They want to erase all vestiges of a free society and any reference to our founders. The socialist way...

A free society as long as you were a white male landowner.

Don’t get too high and mighty about the good old days.

And you're ignoring the real reason they want to remove statues. It happens in every society where leaders become tyrannical. They want to erase any reference to a time where people had more freedom than what they intend to allow.

A time where white people had freedom to own other humans as property?

You long for the days of “freedom” to own slaves?

Like I said, a free society if you were a white male landowner.

You guys use slavery, something that was abolished in this country 160 years ago, as a bludgeon to justify your POV, which is to destroy freedom and establish a one-party system.

Sort of slavery in reverse.

Exactly. We are almost all descendants of slaves because most of the population of the earth was enslaved at some point in history. For some it may have been more recent than others---but nobody has a monopoly on passed down victimhood suffered by their descendants. Unless we want to be like the Middle East---where they are still fuming over the Crusades---its way past time to move on.

(09-01-2024 05:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 01:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 12:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 10:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 08:09 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  A free society as long as you were a white male landowner.

Don’t get too high and mighty about the good old days.

And you're ignoring the real reason they want to remove statues. It happens in every society where leaders become tyrannical. They want to erase any reference to a time where people had more freedom than what they intend to allow.

A time where white people had freedom to own other humans as property?

You long for the days of “freedom” to own slaves?

Like I said, a free society if you were a white male landowner.

You guys use slavery, something that was abolished in this country 160 years ago, as a bludgeon to justify your POV, which is to destroy freedom and establish a one-party system.

Sort of slavery in reverse.

Exactly. We are almost all descendants of slaves because most of the population of the earth was enslaved at some point in history. For some it may have been more recent than others---but nobody has a monopoly on passed down victimhood suffered by their descendants.

Same with "stolen land." There is very little territory on this earth that hasn't been taken by someone from somebody else. Most even multiple times.

It is simply used to justify some additional egregious action or POV.

(09-01-2024 05:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 05:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 01:04 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 12:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(09-01-2024 10:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  And you're ignoring the real reason they want to remove statues. It happens in every society where leaders become tyrannical. They want to erase any reference to a time where people had more freedom than what they intend to allow.

A time where white people had freedom to own other humans as property?

You long for the days of “freedom” to own slaves?

Like I said, a free society if you were a white male landowner.

You guys use slavery, something that was abolished in this country 160 years ago, as a bludgeon to justify your POV, which is to destroy freedom and establish a one-party system.

Sort of slavery in reverse.

Exactly. We are almost all descendants of slaves because most of the population of the earth was enslaved at some point in history. For some it may have been more recent than others---but nobody has a monopoly on passed down victimhood suffered by their descendants.

Same with "stolen land." There is very little territory on this earth that hasn't been taken by someone from somebody else. Most even multiple times.

It is simply used to justify some additional egregious action or POV.

Exactly. Its one of the things the current wave of "from the river to the sea" Palestinian protesters seem incredibly ignorant of. The Jews have been living there literally forever. Im a pragmatic person.
The reality is we are where we are today. Lets craft the best solution we can for today's disputes and move on.

(08-31-2024 07:04 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Do you live in San Francisco?

In a generation or two you won't be able to tell the difference between SF and any other democrat run city. You idiots fuq up everything you touch.

(08-31-2024 08:10 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 07:06 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 07:04 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Do you live in San Francisco?

Do you?

I do not, therefore if SF opts to remove memorials to people they no longer choose to honor, then it is of no concern to me.

That's because you take a myopic view of things that you should consider existential threats. Are you really so dense that you can't recognize and extend the dynamic that currently ails SF out to other areas of the country?

What is it that you think ails SF anyway?

(08-31-2024 11:51 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 11:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 09:53 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 08:17 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-31-2024 08:10 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I do not, therefore if SF opts to remove memorials to people they no longer choose to honor, then it is of no concern to me.

Good so in the future we can count on comments on things onky pertaining to the shitehole you live in


Great

Why are you concerned about statues in San Francisco?

I realize you are too far up the butts of the socialists to understand, so I'm simply doing this as a PSA.

Removing reminders of the past is a story that could eventually affect all of us.

Why remove statues? Because it is part of the socialist / Marxist / Communist playbook to eliminate all things that could be taught in opposition. You know, like Washington and Jefferson and the Constitution and the 1A and 2A, etc.

But of course, you're blindly cheering for that side, b/c you're too ignorant or too leftist to give a sh!t.

How is removing a statue in San Francisco going to affect me in East Memphis? How did removing Nathan Bedford Forests statue in Memphis impact Jeff Lebowski in Los Angeles. That’s simply a load of hyperbolic nonsense. So many of the offensive confederate statues were erected in the 1920’s & 1930’s to rewrite & glorify the lost cause of the confederacy & placed by the United Daughters of the Confederacy.

Have you ever answered a question with a straight answer? No one asked for a history of statue erection.