Serious question, you're a smart guy so what's the point of all these pro-Russia, pro-Putin threads? Who are you trying to convince and of what are you trying to convince them?

(02-28-2024 11:16 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Serious question, you're a smart guy so what's the point of all these pro-Russia, pro-Putin threads? Who are you trying to convince and of what are you trying to convince them?

I’m not a smart guy. I’m practically uneducated and barely literate actually.

The US president and media establishment came out a declared that we have cratered Russias economy, they are unable to produce weapons, we have cut off their sources of income and our sanctions have strangled their exports. We said they are isolated in the world community and that everyone has turned their backs on them, that they are isolated and alone.

All of this is said by the US media. None of it true, and I have never heard a retraction for any of their false stories.

They want everyone to believe that Russia is on the verge of collapse at any moment, so we have to keep borrowing and borrowing and borrowing to fund more wars so we can accomplish this goal. But it’s all fake. They want us to feel like we have to agree to this spending because it makes so much sense to do so, based on everything we are being fed.

And the narrative that everyone in Russia hates Putin and he does nothing for the country while it falls apart around him is another line of that narrative. So I ask people, how is life in Russia getting worse under his rule?

And the only answer I have heard yet is that life is bad there because it was bad BEFORE he took over. The exact opposite of the question.

If this country wants me to work and pay taxes and to fund wars based on lies, I’m going to correct the lies when I can.

So I ask people here, how is Putin making the country of Russia worse like I hear on the news daily? And I’m still waiting for an answer. I’m also waiting for all of the major news outlets to correct all of the misinformation they promote to help sell an agenda which is I don’t want to borrow money to fund.

Btw, that was a good question and I appreciate being asked. All the people that come on to attempt to insult me, and not one of them ever sincerely asked me such a basic question.

Pro Tip- if someone has different ideas than you, it’s always wise to try to figure out where they are coming from. And usually, all you have to do is ask!

World Bank names Russia as a top ten country for improving both education and health care.

https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-...-education

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NkVZF4pd7e...DpghGJ3Fnf

This video is about how US sanctions are making Russia stronger. In the video is Tucker Carlson in Moscow. At about the 1:50 mark he is talking about the dominance of the dollar, and that if you ask anyone in most of the world, they know things are changing. But ask anyone in the English speaking world, and they don’t know it-because no one has told them the truth.

And that ties in directly with what I see in the media here. That we need to borrow because Russia is about to collapse at any moment. But what if that isn’t true?

The video is by Cyrus Janssen, an American business consultant who lives in Asia. He’s given Ted Talks and does consulting work for various businesses. I only recently became familiar with him.

(02-28-2024 11:35 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(02-28-2024 11:16 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Serious question, you're a smart guy so what's the point of all these pro-Russia, pro-Putin threads? Who are you trying to convince and of what are you trying to convince them?

I’m not a smart guy. I’m practically uneducated and barely literate actually.

The US president and media establishment came out a declared that we have cratered Russias economy, they are unable to produce weapons, we have cut off their sources of income and our sanctions have strangled their exports. We said they are isolated in the world community and that everyone has turned their backs on them, that they are isolated and alone.

All of this is said by the US media. None of it true, and I have never heard a retraction for any of their false stories.

They want everyone to believe that Russia is on the verge of collapse at any moment, so we have to keep borrowing and borrowing and borrowing to fund more wars so we can accomplish this goal. But it’s all fake. They want us to feel like we have to agree to this spending because it makes so much sense to do so, based on everything we are being fed.

And the narrative that everyone in Russia hates Putin and he does nothing for the country while it falls apart around him is another line of that narrative. So I ask people, how is life in Russia getting worse under his rule?

And the only answer I have heard yet is that life is bad there because it was bad BEFORE he took over. The exact opposite of the question.

If this country wants me to work and pay taxes and to fund wars based on lies, I’m going to correct the lies when I can.

So I ask people here, how is Putin making the country of Russia worse like I hear on the news daily? And I’m still waiting for an answer. I’m also waiting for all of the major news outlets to correct all of the misinformation they promote to help sell an agenda which is I don’t want to borrow money to fund.

Btw, that was a good question and I appreciate being asked. All the people that come on to attempt to insult me, and not one of them ever sincerely asked me such a basic question.

Pro Tip- if someone has different ideas than you, it’s always wise to try to figure out where they are coming from. And usually, all you have to do is ask!

You and I share the bold part in common. As to the rest, there's not much there with which I can disagree.

I am not a fan of some of the things Putin has allegedly done while in office, but neither am I a huge critic. As I mentioned before, my son speaks fluent Russian, has been there several times on my dime as a student, and went on his own his senior year in high school after winning a scholarship contest. He loved it there, and that was in the mid-90's. He and I had plans to visit there in 2020, had an itinerary, and had done everything except purchase airfare in preparation to go, and then the superflu shut everything down.

I'd still go should another opportunity present itself.

Also, many of us here grew up in an era where the single largest threat was that of a nuclear attack from Russia. Russia became an arch-enemy after WWII and a central figure in the axis of evil. Almost every child of my generation remembers the drills: hiding under desks, sitting in hallways, head tucked between knees, fearful that the world was going to end at any moment. That kind of conditioning is hard to overcome, and I think we see that in several cases here.

Until Iraq and Afghanistan, every war or military action we involved ourselves in during the 20th century pitted western democracy against communist tyranny. I'm 67 years old and have just relatively recently come to understand that the need to sate the ravenous appetite of the MIC has been the underlying cause of most of the conflicts we've been involved in, and communism—bad as it is—was the boogeyman our government told us was hiding under our very beds.

I have been vehemently anti-communist, and I remain so, but I don't see Russia as the dominant threat we face today. So many are focused on Russia Russia Russia that they fail to recognize the real enemy at the gate, which is the CCP. Well, they and our own uniquely evil American left.

(02-28-2024 02:51 PM)Todor Wrote:  Can anyone name a metric that is worse now than when Putin first became president? Life span? Income? Health care? Any examples of how he has made things worse during his terms?

You can name all the SMO related things you want btw, but I know, you know, and everybody else knows that’s a cop out because you likely can’t name anything else

I'd venture to guess he's made life a living hell for millions of people in Ukraine.

(02-29-2024 08:52 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-28-2024 02:51 PM)Todor Wrote:  Can anyone name a metric that is worse now than when Putin first became president? Life span? Income? Health care? Any examples of how he has made things worse during his terms?

You can name all the SMO related things you want btw, but I know, you know, and everybody else knows that’s a cop out because you likely can’t name anything else

I'd venture to guess he's made life a living hell for millions of people in Ukraine.

I know it, you know it, and everybody else knows that’s a cop out…

Couldn’t name anything else?

(02-28-2024 11:35 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(02-28-2024 11:16 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Serious question, you're a smart guy so what's the point of all these pro-Russia, pro-Putin threads? Who are you trying to convince and of what are you trying to convince them?

Pro Tip- if someone has different ideas than you, it’s always wise to try to figure out where they are coming from. And usually, all you have to do is ask!

Your snarky bull**** is meaningless because people DO ask you, in almost every one of these nonsense threads - what is your background, why are you so Russia happy, and what is your motivation for all these threads? Tiger just asked you straight up in the previous post and you ignored it. So here, again, since "all we have to do is ask!":

What is your background?
Why do you post Russia threads almost weekly?
What is your motivation to do so?
What do you want to convince this "audience" of?

You can answer each one directly. It will be easy.

Gas infrastructure investment continues to soar. Thankfully, the West is paying for it so that frees up infrastructure money for other projects.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/10/20/rus...ed-states/

(02-29-2024 09:32 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(02-28-2024 11:35 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(02-28-2024 11:16 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Serious question, you're a smart guy so what's the point of all these pro-Russia, pro-Putin threads? Who are you trying to convince and of what are you trying to convince them?

Pro Tip- if someone has different ideas than you, it’s always wise to try to figure out where they are coming from. And usually, all you have to do is ask!

Your snarky bull**** is meaningless because people DO ask you, in almost every one of these nonsense threads - what is your background, why are you so Russia happy, and what is your motivation for all these threads? Tiger just asked you straight up in the previous post and you ignored it. So here, again, since "all we have to do is ask!":

What is your background?
Why do you post Russia threads almost weekly?
What is your motivation to do so?
What do you want to convince this "audience" of?

You can answer each one directly. It will be easy.

Id like to know this too

You may be 100% right, but it is also fair to question your motivation

Putin has also revived a dormant airliner manufacturing industry. Long dependent on money flowing out to the west for commercial planes, domestic investment has revived the industry and Aeroflot and over a dozen foreign airline are currently on the order list for the new Russian planes. Another mark of being free from western tech that up being used as a weapon.

More high tech, high paying manufacturing has returned to Russia.

https://onemileatatime.com/news/aeroflot...an-planes/

(02-29-2024 10:33 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 09:32 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(02-28-2024 11:35 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(02-28-2024 11:16 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Serious question, you're a smart guy so what's the point of all these pro-Russia, pro-Putin threads? Who are you trying to convince and of what are you trying to convince them?

Pro Tip- if someone has different ideas than you, it’s always wise to try to figure out where they are coming from. And usually, all you have to do is ask!

Your snarky bull**** is meaningless because people DO ask you, in almost every one of these nonsense threads - what is your background, why are you so Russia happy, and what is your motivation for all these threads? Tiger just asked you straight up in the previous post and you ignored it. So here, again, since "all we have to do is ask!":

What is your background?
Why do you post Russia threads almost weekly?
What is your motivation to do so?
What do you want to convince this "audience" of?

You can answer each one directly. It will be easy.

Id like to know this too

You may be 100% right, but it is also fair to question your motivation

He just ignores the question every time it is asked. He's doing it again right now. Been asked directly by 3 different people now in this thread. BUT ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS ASK!

Right. Propaganda Boy gonna propaganda.

(02-28-2024 04:29 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(02-28-2024 03:11 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I dunno.. I live in America not Russia.

That’s one “I have no idea.”

Russias GDP has risen from around 209 billion to around 2 trillion.

That’s up by a factor of 10.

Ok.. Next ask me how my life has changed with the change of King Charles taking over Great Britain..

(02-29-2024 11:28 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(02-28-2024 04:29 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(02-28-2024 03:11 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I dunno.. I live in America not Russia.

That’s one “I have no idea.”

Russias GDP has risen from around 209 billion to around 2 trillion.

That’s up by a factor of 10.

Ok.. Next ask me how my life has changed with the change of King Charles taking over Great Britain..

you got a new season of the Crown out of it.

(02-29-2024 11:59 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 11:28 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(02-28-2024 04:29 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(02-28-2024 03:11 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I dunno.. I live in America not Russia.

That’s one “I have no idea.”

Russias GDP has risen from around 209 billion to around 2 trillion.

That’s up by a factor of 10.

Ok.. Next ask me how my life has changed with the change of King Charles taking over Great Britain..

you got a new season of the Crown out of it.

There is? I mean I don't watch that trash.

553 clicks and 35 posts so far, and no one has named any metrics that are going down since Putin was elected. People have attempted to change the topic to anything but the topic of the thread, because they CAN’T name anything.

But perhaps the most important way Putin has improved Russia (and the one that infuriates the West the most) are the upgrades to Russias defensive infrastructure.

Here is American media covering some of it-just look at how they cover it- they say Russia is militarizing the Arctic lol. Also known as building defensive bases on their own border, not even near another country, just on their arctic coast.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/21/europe/ru...index.html

Another reason the West ks so keen to demonize Russia-we want them to weak to defend themselves, or simply not smart enough to defend their own borders like us.

Anyone notice how Russia has surged to become one of the largest fish exporters lately? Completely new ports, new ships, new gear. Every thing state of the art.

New backend processing planets have brought tens of thousands of jobs to a number of key regions. Of course, since Japan has sanctions going on, they are now buying seafood from a number of totally landlocked nations, if you believe the packaging.

In other words, the sanctions are a bust and most countries continue to buy anything they want from Russia.

But fishing and seafood is just one of hundreds of moribund industries that have been given new investment and new life in the last decades. The West wanted them to die, but they have been rescued.

Who’s got their list of metrics that how their lives are getting worse in Russia under Putin? Come on boys, step it up. It should be easy for you experts. Especially the experts that have never been to Russia either before or after Putin.

Lolololololololololol

(02-29-2024 11:59 PM)Todor Wrote:  But perhaps the most important way Putin has improved Russia (and the one that infuriates the West the most) are the upgrades to Russias defensive infrastructure.

Here is American media covering some of it-just look at how they cover it- they say Russia is militarizing the Arctic lol. Also known as building defensive bases on their own border, not even near another country, just on their arctic coast.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/21/europe/ru...index.html

Another reason the West ks so keen to demonize Russia-we want them to weak to defend themselves, or simply not smart enough to defend their own borders like us.

They cant tell you why they hate putin. I tried that experiment.