As I am reading through the threads there is a common (but not overtly obvious).

Nobody in the Blue Aisle (or the anyone but Trump Aisle) seem willing to at the very least acknowledge that Biden is not the answer either.

Most here who put on the red underwear have acknowledged that Trump is an abrasive, arrogant douche` and would vote for another option if a viable one was offered.

Biden is fumbling and bumbling through each day and it is easy to see that the guy is deteriorating. He's 80 FFS... most people are. I cannot assert if Trump is fading or he just speaks poorly, but you can make a case for him starting to fade too.

Let's be honest here, the last 2 presidential elections were decided on voting against someone, not for someone.



Lets have an exercise .....

Instead of Not Trump or Not Biden (or Harris), who would you support on your side of the aisle. Who would you vote for?

(02-15-2024 11:56 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Lets have an exercise .....

Instead of Not Trump or Not Biden (or Harris), who would you support on your side of the aisle. Who would you vote for?

DeSantis, Youngkin, Ramaswamy, Scott maybe. The list gets thin after that.

(02-15-2024 12:00 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(02-15-2024 11:56 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Lets have an exercise .....

Instead of Not Trump or Not Biden (or Harris), who would you support on your side of the aisle. Who would you vote for?

DeSantis, Youngkin, Ramaswamy, Scott maybe. The list gets thin after that.

I could accept any of those. My biggest concern with Ramaswamy is the foreign affairs positions.

2028 hopefully

The most sincere person in reigning in the administrative state, intelligence community and not intentionally trying to get entangled into foreign matters. Finding that sincere one is the hardest task. Vivek seems like the one for now but there’s still a lot of questions

I never answered my own question...

I was originally on the DeSantis train, but he lost me over the last 5 moths. He proved he is not much different that Tubby or Haley... too much pandering not enough taking a stand.


I would jump on a Glenn Youngkin presidential run if given the option. Bring Windsome Sears along with him to be his attorney general or even VP.

We'd all be better off if neither of them were running.

Trump is streamlined for primary dominance. He's going to lose to whomever the Democrats replace Biden with. We all lose. Again.

(02-15-2024 12:35 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  I never answered my own question...

I was originally on the DeSantis train, but he lost me over the last 5 moths. He proved he is not much different that Tubby or Haley... too much pandering not enough taking a stand.


I would jump on a Glenn Youngkin presidential run if given the option. Bring Windsome Sears along with him to be his attorney general or even VP.

It's been mentioned before - - Winsome Sears is not a natural-born citizen. I believe that she is a native of Jamaica. It's a shame, because she would be terrific.

I like Youngkin, but don't think that he's got the nut-kicking ability it will take to handle a national campaign. Perhaps he'll develop that by 2028 - - assuming that we still have a functional nation in 2028.

(02-15-2024 12:04 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(02-15-2024 12:00 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(02-15-2024 11:56 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Lets have an exercise .....

Instead of Not Trump or Not Biden (or Harris), who would you support on your side of the aisle. Who would you vote for?

DeSantis, Youngkin, Ramaswamy, Scott maybe. The list gets thin after that.

I could accept any of those. My biggest concern with Ramaswamy is the foreign affairs positions.

I'm hoping in 4 years he studies up and is ready for the next time.

(02-15-2024 12:43 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  It's been mentioned before - - Winsome Sears is not a natural-born citizen. I believe that she is a native of Jamaica. It's a shame, because she would be terrific.

I like Youngkin, but don't think that he's got the nut-kicking ability it will take to handle a national campaign. Perhaps he'll develop that by 2028 - - assuming that we still have a functional nation in 2028.

It worked for Barry

would someone please redirect nuts z. to the DIII realignment thread…

this is where I miss ciggy butts, cocaine, and cheap area hoes in meridian …

If Trump wasn't on the ballot, whichever Republican was the nominee would be the worst person on the planet... a fascist, racist, homophobe who is going to put gays in labor camps and kill your grandma.

A lot of people actually voted FOR Trump, myself included.

Trump would be Emperor of the Free Southern States?

A big wall keeping filth out would be being built.


How far you want ke to go with this?

(02-15-2024 03:42 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  If Trump wasn't on the ballot, whichever Republican was the nominee would be the worst person on the planet... a fascist, racist, homophobe who is going to put gays in labor camps and kill your grandma.

Instantly. They just add water.

Can we nominate Putin? Weve had one foriegn spy president already

Let's settle something up front. If Trump's the nominee there is no way in hell I'm voting for any of the Democrats. Therefore, Trump gets my vote.

Now to the OP, a good exercise which asks the wrong question. The right question is why in the hell are the two nominees going to be Trump and Biden?

Nobody wants to know the answer to that because the answer is bleak as hell, though the truth of it is obvious. Because some of the most self serving know nothing SOB's and Susie Q. Sorority Narcissists are all that is running against them. How could that be?
Easy! PAC money and corporate backing. What do the corporations want? They want government of the people, by the people and for the people to flat out fail! They want corporations to run Europe, China, and the United States and they hate those who will not capitulate to their Fascist view of the world, and their out of the bubble dipshit plans for all of us and how we should lead our lives.

That's why a Soap Opera star is fighting a former head of the KGB. One wants a corporate world, and the other doesn't.

Trump, the corporatist's scapegoat for everyone who doesn't want their agenda instilled by a brain-dead fool and his even more vapid VP, is the only obstacle in their way. You are supposed to give up all hope and accept the vision of Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and Tim Cook! Hell by comparison do they not look like geniuses? And Klauss Schwab? He's a leftover kooky offspring of the Third Reich who dreams of a 4th Reich ushered in by the EU and led by Bonn.

I'll take Trump. He hates those bastards! I'm not voting for him because I like all of his actions and ideas. I'll vote for him because he's against the right people!!!

If you are disgusted by the prospect of corporate globalism, you have no other choice. The enemy isn't Putin, or those who supported Brexit, or even the third world terrorists. Your enemy, my enemy, our enemy are those who fund every disgusting thing assaulting us in an effort to make us give up. They have ruined our elections with PAC money which places their lackies in many positions in both parties and then makes a mockery of our form of government.

I don't give a damn what Trump is. I only care about what he is not!

(02-15-2024 04:07 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  A lot of people actually voted FOR Trump, myself included.

I did and will again. I’m very fond of cheaper gas and groceries, less illegal aliens, and lower taxes.


But that’s just me

(02-15-2024 04:09 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Trump would be Emperor of the Free Southern States?

A big wall keeping filth out would be being built.


How far you want ke to go with this?

This seems like a good idea. Wall off the south. We can let the Midwest join too I guess. Kick out all the trash Dems. Let’s do this!!

(02-15-2024 10:46 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(02-15-2024 04:09 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Trump would be Emperor of the Free Southern States?

A big wall keeping filth out would be being built.


How far you want ke to go with this?

This seems like a good idea. Wall off the south. We can let the Midwest join too I guess. Kick out all the trash Dems. Let’s do this!!

This won't happen without conflict. The very existence of a free thinking meritocracy would be impossible for the left in the North and West to accept. To even have a chance at success the military would have to split as well. And that means equipment and weapons, aircraft, ships, subs, tanks, etc.

If you really think this is possible raise your hand. Logistically it is not. Now having a Southern block of states who align themselves with the Southwest and Midwest to essentially agree on law enforcement for the region is initially possible. Be prepared for Federal money to be cut off. It would hurt, but it would also help. Don't take their money and you don't have to put up with their BS either!