(08-23-2023 11:57 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(08-22-2023 10:25 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(08-22-2023 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And he doubles down, saying the 911 Commission Report lied.

Would you vote for him over Biden?

I’d vote for him over anyone…….well almost anyone.

I have some issues with him---but this isnt one of them.

(08-22-2023 12:00 PM)appst89 Wrote:  

(08-22-2023 11:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-22-2023 10:25 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(08-22-2023 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And he doubles down, saying the 911 Commission Report lied.

Would you vote for him over Biden?

Haven't really given him much of a thought as at this point, the GOP is insistent on running trump. But from what I've seen, I don't think he's a possibility for me.

I could see myself voting for a Republican like Romney, Kasich, or maybe even Christie over Biden. But anyone who still refuses to denounce trump is a non-starter for me.

Those aren't Republicans.

He would rather vote for defenders of Biden than defenders of Trump. That is all.

(08-22-2023 11:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Would you vote for him over Biden?

I'd vote for my neighbor's dog over Biden.

(08-31-2023 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Still has done more than live off the government teat like Joseph Biden.

(08-31-2023 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

That is laughable given the author likely voted for the current vegetable in chief.

(08-31-2023 09:27 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Still has done more than live off the government teat like Joseph Biden.

Well if Biden has spent less than $144 million on himself, he's spent less than Trump did on golf alone

(08-31-2023 09:29 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 09:27 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Still has done more than live off the government teat like Joseph Biden.

Well if Biden has spent less than $144 million on himself, he's spent less than Trump did on golf alone

We're discussing Vivek, not Trump... I'm pointing out that Vivek has made himself a millionaire without the help of being part of the US Government for most of his career.. Funny how does a Senator making 6 figures become a millionaire?

Mind explaining how a man that has spent 50 years "serving his country" and I say that loosely because it seems that he sold out his country, became a millionaire vs Vivek, who might've came from a well off family, they definitely weren't millionaires, became one?

I don't expect a response, I expect you to run off as you always do or deflect like your counterpart there.

But since you want to bring Trump in it.. I don't think Trump spent 40% of his presidency on vacation like Biden...

(08-31-2023 09:35 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 09:29 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 09:27 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Still has done more than live off the government teat like Joseph Biden.

Well if Biden has spent less than $144 million on himself, he's spent less than Trump did on golf alone

We're discussing Vivek, not Trump... I'm pointing out that Vivek has made himself a millionaire without the help of being part of the US Government for most of his career.. Funny how does a Senator making 6 figures become a millionaire?

I guess big pharma ain't that bad after all

Mind explaining how a man that has spent 50 years "serving his country" and I say that loosely because it seems that he sold out his country, became a millionaire vs Vivek, who might've came from a well off family, they definitely weren't millionaires, became one?

don't care to entertain your red herring

I don't expect a response, I expect you to run off as you always do or deflect like your counterpart there.

If I don't respond to you, it means you've said nothing worth responding to

But since you want to bring Trump in it.. I don't think Trump spent 40% of his presidency on vacation like Biden...

You're right, it seems Biden's vacation figures include "going to his home in Delaware" and "Camp David" instead of entertaining club members and business associates at his private club. But I thought we were talking about Vivek?

(08-31-2023 09:58 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 09:35 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 09:29 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 09:27 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Still has done more than live off the government teat like Joseph Biden.

Well if Biden has spent less than $144 million on himself, he's spent less than Trump did on golf alone

We're discussing Vivek, not Trump... I'm pointing out that Vivek has made himself a millionaire without the help of being part of the US Government for most of his career.. Funny how does a Senator making 6 figures become a millionaire?

I guess big pharma ain't that bad after all

Mind explaining how a man that has spent 50 years "serving his country" and I say that loosely because it seems that he sold out his country, became a millionaire vs Vivek, who might've came from a well off family, they definitely weren't millionaires, became one?

don't care to entertain your red herring

I don't expect a response, I expect you to run off as you always do or deflect like your counterpart there.

If I don't respond to you, it means you've said nothing worth responding to

But since you want to bring Trump in it.. I don't think Trump spent 40% of his presidency on vacation like Biden...

You're right, it seems Biden's vacation figures include "going to his home in Delaware" and "Camp David" instead of entertaining club members and business associates at his private club. But I thought we were talking about Vivek?

It's not a red herring, but thanks for playing.

Vivek Ramaswamy is a millionaire due to his work ethic, you can play the Big Pharma card, but he didn't do it as a politician making 6 figures, and you can't explain how that happens, but it's ok. I've exposed you for what you are. No go along and play elsewhere, you're out of your depth and this conversation is about Vivek and his run, not Trump. Go deflect elsewhere, I think there's a Pope thread where you can't point out where the Pope is sinless. Thanks.

(08-31-2023 09:29 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Well if Biden has spent less than $144 million on himself, he's spent less than Trump did on golf alone

lol. What's funny here is that some people actually BELIEVE crap like this.

Apparently, 300 golf trips costs $144 million...

First, 'on the golf course' is where a lot of business among people of a certain age is conducted. It may not be 'your' thing, but it IS a thing... and golf is relatively expensive. Not as expensive as some other things, but expensive.

I'm absolutely certain that all sorts of 'sunk costs' are included in figures like these... which makes them stupid. It probably costs DOUBLE that for him to sleep at the White House for 300 nights if you follow the same accounting.

Figures don't lie, but liars figure.... meaning a relatively smart person can make numbers dance.

(08-31-2023 09:58 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  If I don't respond to you, it means you've said nothing worth responding to

Or more likely, you said something stupid and can't back it up.

(08-31-2023 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Just like Obama did in 2008 right?

Lol


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Old boy is getting targeted by flak from both sides right now. Means he must be over the target.

(08-31-2023 11:49 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Old boy is getting targeted by flak from both sides right now. Means he must be over the target.

The thing that scares the right and the left is the same thing that scared them in 2016. An outsider coming in and blowing their narrative apart. Trump like Vivek is not/was not a politician. I fully believe politicians all play a game together to get to a goal they all truly want, people like Vivek aren't interested in continuing to play the game. They don't need the DC politics game to keep them afloat or to continue to make them rich.

Unfortunately, Vivek like Gary Johnson in 2016 is showing that maybe he's not as prepared as he should be when it comes to certain policies and that could be his undoing.

(08-31-2023 12:18 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 11:49 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Old boy is getting targeted by flak from both sides right now. Means he must be over the target.

The thing that scares the right and the left is the same thing that scared them in 2016. An outsider coming in and blowing their narrative apart. Trump like Vivek is not/was not a politician. I fully believe politicians all play a game together to get to a goal they all truly want, people like Vivek aren't interested in continuing to play the game. They don't need the DC politics game to keep them afloat or to continue to make them rich.

Unfortunately, Vivek like Gary Johnson in 2016 is showing that maybe he's not as prepared as he should be when it comes to certain policies and that could be his undoing.

The same thing happened frequently in the Diplomatic Corps. Relationships between Diplomats and how they played their games with one another took precedence over the needs of the nation. A good old boy system, on an international scale was preferred to loyalty to the nation. When generals, presidents, or personalities would set up conferences, there was a lot of foot-dragging at the State Department.

(08-31-2023 12:24 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 12:18 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 11:49 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Old boy is getting targeted by flak from both sides right now. Means he must be over the target.

The thing that scares the right and the left is the same thing that scared them in 2016. An outsider coming in and blowing their narrative apart. Trump like Vivek is not/was not a politician. I fully believe politicians all play a game together to get to a goal they all truly want, people like Vivek aren't interested in continuing to play the game. They don't need the DC politics game to keep them afloat or to continue to make them rich.

Unfortunately, Vivek like Gary Johnson in 2016 is showing that maybe he's not as prepared as he should be when it comes to certain policies and that could be his undoing.

The same thing happened frequently in the Diplomatic Corps. Relationships between Diplomats and how they played their games with one another took precedence over the needs of the nation. A good old boy system, on an international scale was preferred to loyalty to the nation. When generals, presidents, or personalities would set up conferences, there was a lot of foot-dragging at the State Department.

What we truly need is a President with a backbone that could cut alot of the beaurocrats in DC loose. You want to know who wields the power, it's not elected officials unfortunately it's the ones the elected officials surround themselves with .

(08-31-2023 12:18 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 11:49 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Old boy is getting targeted by flak from both sides right now. Means he must be over the target.

The thing that scares the right and the left is the same thing that scared them in 2016. An outsider coming in and blowing their narrative apart. Trump like Vivek is not/was not a politician. I fully believe politicians all play a game together to get to a goal they all truly want, people like Vivek aren't interested in continuing to play the game. They don't need the DC politics game to keep them afloat or to continue to make them rich.

Unfortunately, Vivek like Gary Johnson in 2016 is showing that maybe he's not as prepared as he should be when it comes to certain policies and that could be his undoing.

Vivek would be up by 50 without Trump in the picture. It’s clear the GOP electorate wants a rhetoric driven ideologue with paleoconservative views.

His campaign has been virtually flawless IMO, but there’s no other lane in 2024 for him to get the nomination.


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Vivek, like Oblunder is not ready for the WH. He should be good for a cabinet seat of some kind. He can't be any worst than the idiots who THE SOB appointed, can you say Mayorka. Being a seasoned politician though is not the answer to who might be a good president. Just look at THE SOB who is leading the nation over a cliff and his supporters are happily behind him. It doesn't take a genius to know that he is inapt and corrupt. Even David can see that, I think, and he has shown that he's not that bright.

Speaking of David, have you noticed that his grammar has improved dramatically? Either he is taking English classes or someone else is writing his posts.

(08-31-2023 01:06 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Vivek, like Oblunder is not ready for the WH. He should be good for a cabinet seat of some kind. He can't be any worst than the idiots who THE SOB appointed, can you say Mayorka. Being a seasoned politician though is not the answer to who might be a good president. Just look at THE SOB who is leading the nation over a cliff and his supporters are happily behind him. It doesn't take a genius to know that he is inapt and corrupt. Even David can see that, I think, and he has shown that he's not that bright.

Speaking of David, have you noticed that his grammar has improved dramatically? Either he is taking English classes or someone else is writing his posts.

Fair take.