His only issue with those companies being "wokeness" is why I'd never support him. His critique of corporate power begins and ends there. If BlackRock came out and adopted his 10 truths they could continue doing every other evil and vile thing they are doing and he wouldn't give 1 single crap about it.

And he doubles down, saying the 911 Commission Report lied.

(08-22-2023 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And he doubles down, saying the 911 Commission Report lied.

Would you vote for him over Biden?

(08-22-2023 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And he doubles down, saying the 911 Commission Report lied.

And there's no chance he could be at least partially correct? You believe everything our government puts out there on topics like this?

https://apnews.com/article/sept-11-saudi...25bab79bb4

I don't understand what point he's trying to make about agents on planes, but he's absolutely correct on the 9/11 Commission Report not outlining what role Saudi Arabia played. Either the report was incomplete, or they lied by omission.

Our resident commie still seems to believe what the gubmint tells him. Especially if it was in an official report. Must be true, then.

(08-22-2023 10:25 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(08-22-2023 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And he doubles down, saying the 911 Commission Report lied.

Would you vote for him over Biden?

Haven't really given him much of a thought as at this point, the GOP is insistent on running trump. But from what I've seen, I don't think he's a possibility for me.

I could see myself voting for a Republican like Romney, Kasich, or maybe even Christie over Biden. But anyone who still refuses to denounce trump is a non-starter for me.

(08-22-2023 10:31 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(08-22-2023 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And he doubles down, saying the 911 Commission Report lied.

And there's no chance he could be at least partially correct? You believe everything our government puts out there on topics like this?

https://apnews.com/article/sept-11-saudi...25bab79bb4

Regarding American police or federal agents? No. Zip. Nada. Not a chance in hell. He just looks like a loon even hinting at this. This happened over 20 years ago. The identities of all those killed on the planes has been well known.

Interesting that this is out there. I don't know whether this is true or not.

Quote:REPORT: Vivek Ramaswamy PAID Wikipedia To Get Soros Connection Erased From Wikipedia Page

This story was first reported in May 2023. by Huff Post. As Ramaswamy appeared here in Atlanta last week, The Georgia Record decided to check on the current status of his Wikipedia information page.

It appears his page has again been amended, now to include information about his fellowship by the Paul & Daisy Soros Fellowships for New Americans.

In May, as the original story became widely known across multiple publications, Wikipedia reportedly added several disclosures including “multiple issues,” “contains paid contributions” and “may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia’s content policies, particularly neutral point of view.”

We now see reporting that Ramaswamy is touting the TPP Pacific Trade deal, a deal that Trump cancelled. Ramaswamy is also in support of "more migration."

Many say we need to keep close watch on Ramaswamy as his benefactors seem to be trying to position him as the next "Trump" yet his beliefs and positions actually seem anything but "Trump-like."

https://www.georgiarecord.com/politics/2...edia-page/

(08-22-2023 11:19 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Interesting that this is out there. I don't know whether this is true or not.

Quote:REPORT: Vivek Ramaswamy PAID Wikipedia To Get Soros Connection Erased From Wikipedia Page

This story was first reported in May 2023. by Huff Post. As Ramaswamy appeared here in Atlanta last week, The Georgia Record decided to check on the current status of his Wikipedia information page.

It appears his page has again been amended, now to include information about his fellowship by the Paul & Daisy Soros Fellowships for New Americans.

In May, as the original story became widely known across multiple publications, Wikipedia reportedly added several disclosures including “multiple issues,” “contains paid contributions” and “may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia’s content policies, particularly neutral point of view.”

We now see reporting that Ramaswamy is touting the TPP Pacific Trade deal, a deal that Trump cancelled. Ramaswamy is also in support of "more migration."

Many say we need to keep close watch on Ramaswamy as his benefactors seem to be trying to position him as the next "Trump" yet his beliefs and positions actually seem anything but "Trump-like."

https://www.georgiarecord.com/politics/2...edia-page/[/b]

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No offense, but even if it is, so what?

Vivek has addressed this publicly about why he took the $$$ in the first place. Trump used to be a liberal democrat from New York and people took a chance on him in 2016...

He said the we should have merit based immigration. That's a good thing.

He said we should look back at TPP and make changes that hurt China. That's a good thing.

Connections to Soros concern me. That is all. Don't need any more Manchurian candidates. Dealing with RINOS is enough of a hassle.

(08-22-2023 11:36 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Connections to Soros concern me. That is all. Don't need any more Manchurian candidates. Dealing with RINOS is enough of a hassle.

That's comical. I bet you know next to absolutely nothing about Soros and what he actually does, as opposed to what your talking points say he does.

(08-22-2023 11:36 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Connections to Soros concern me. That is all. Don't need any more Manchurian candidates. Dealing with RINOS is enough of a hassle.

Was Trump a RINO for donating to the Clintons?

All that supporters had in 2015/2016 was rhetoric and his willingness to call out the leftists in media.

Genuinely curious about how you draw the line with Trump and someone like Vivek.


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(08-22-2023 11:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-22-2023 11:36 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Connections to Soros concern me. That is all. Don't need any more Manchurian candidates. Dealing with RINOS is enough of a hassle.

That's comical. I bet you know next to absolutely nothing about Soros and what he actually does, as opposed to what your talking points say he does.

Neither do you, except what the leftwing propaganda tells you.

For me, it's not difficult to understand he's a big financier of leftwing causes. I've read that his son who is taking over is even worse than old George himself.

(08-22-2023 11:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-22-2023 10:25 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(08-22-2023 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And he doubles down, saying the 911 Commission Report lied.

Would you vote for him over Biden?

Haven't really given him much of a thought as at this point, the GOP is insistent on running trump. But from what I've seen, I don't think he's a possibility for me.

I could see myself voting for a Republican like Romney, Kasich, or maybe even Christie over Biden. But anyone who still refuses to denounce trump is a non-starter for me.

Those aren't Republicans.

(08-22-2023 11:36 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Connections to Soros concern me. That is all. Don't need any more Manchurian candidates. Dealing with RINOS is enough of a hassle.

He discussed it in a previous interview with with Jordan Peterson or PBD IIRC. My take away was basically he’s not happy who it was tied to looking back on it but at the time basically saw the fellowship/scholarship as just something to help pay for law school.

My guess is he really wasn’t political at the time and not all aware of Soros junk. Then again, he’s clearly elite intelligence so I would think he would look into their foundations on his own but hey he may have been more focused on just getting through law school at the cheapest rate at the time. If he was aware and just said screw em I’ll take their money and tell them to buzz off later I’d have no issues but am not all aware what the fellowship entails myself.

There is plenty on Vivek that will need to be ironed out still. His campaign is great. There are questions to be answered in further detail for a better read on exactly who he is IMO. I’m guessing most of these types of ties are young ignorance of a highly successful person taking advantage whenever they can but we’ll see.

Doubt he gets close to Trump anyways so good to find out now before likely future campaigns/runs.

(08-22-2023 10:33 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  I don't understand what point he's trying to make about agents on planes, but he's absolutely correct on the 9/11 Commission Report not outlining what role Saudi Arabia played. Either the report was incomplete, or they lied by omission.

My understanding is he's directly referring to the Saudi angle that was totally ignored by the commission. He's not actually saying they are hiding more than that----he is merely suggesting that we might find there are other embarrassing things that were swept under the rug---because the folks in charge thought we might not be able to handle the full truth. I mean---its a fairly common belief--perhaps even a majority opinion these days---that the Warren Commission that investigated the Kennedy assassination was something less than completely truthful. The fact that much of the supporting Warren Commission evidence has STILL not been released is no doubt a contributing factor in the mistrust of that commission's ultimate findings.

I see no reason why these rather limited statements by Ramswamy are even controversial.

(08-22-2023 10:25 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(08-22-2023 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And he doubles down, saying the 911 Commission Report lied.

Would you vote for him over Biden?

I’d vote for him over anyone…….well almost anyone.

(08-22-2023 11:06 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-22-2023 10:31 AM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  

(08-22-2023 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And he doubles down, saying the 911 Commission Report lied.

And there's no chance he could be at least partially correct? You believe everything our government puts out there on topics like this?

https://apnews.com/article/sept-11-saudi...25bab79bb4

Regarding American police or federal agents? No. Zip. Nada. Not a chance in hell. He just looks like a loon even hinting at this. This happened over 20 years ago. The identities of all those killed on the planes has been well known.

You forget this was the Bush administration? You are one twisted pretzel. Thinking only team over country.

(08-22-2023 11:36 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Connections to Soros concern me. That is all. Don't need any more Manchurian candidates. Dealing with RINOS is enough of a hassle.

If he’s doing this much lying he is the best at it in history. At least the best mortal.