(08-27-2023 04:56 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  Admin should contact this idiot and get him to take this down or amend it. I'm no lawyer, but this seems similar to yelling fire in an auditorium in the absence of a fire.

Unfortunately, past Rice administrations did not care enough about athletics to take action on things like this. We shall see whether this administration cares.

(08-27-2023 04:56 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 03:48 PM)Grungy Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 10:35 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 08:17 AM)greyowl72 Wrote:  Ouch. That hurts.
Structurally unsound? I knew it was old and ugly but structurally unsound?

Is there any truth to that claim? If not, take his butt to court. If there is, why are the Owls still playing there?

There is no truth to that statement.
What you see is solid.
What you don't see is solid too.

Without demand for second-deck seats (other than the Schaffer family) there hasn't been a lot of motivation to make any improvements or do much of anything beyond base-level maintenance.

Second deck - no concessions, and the restrooms are almost as good as they were in 1950.

Concourse level will have renovated and air-conditioned restrooms on both sides, and the usual trucked-in concessions.
The Flight Decks no longer say "Flight Deck" (after the beer) - they say Amerant (after the sponsoring bank), and there is a set of party decks in the NW and SE corners.

Glad to hear I don't have to wear a hard hat to games!

Admin should contact this idiot and get him to take this down or amend it. I'm no lawyer, but this seems similar to yelling fire in an auditorium in the absence of a fire.

Hmmm...
I wasn't thinking about it in those terms.
My thought was "Is this thing going to fall down?", not "Is the concrete spalling, and might I be in the way when small pieces plummet?"
A hard hat would protect you from the latter, not the former.
I've seen some less-than-one-inch to two-inch chunks where they weren't the week before.
There are also some curious squares of plywood high overhead that may have been put up with construction adhesive (I can't see any fasteners) to keep flakes and such from falling.
They aren't going to fall, and the concrete above them isn't either.

Let me modify what I said earlier.
Risk of catastrophic failure approximates zero.
Risk of being in the way of the equivalent of a falling golf ball is present, yet quite small.

Fans sit in the path of foul balls at baseball games.
Fans stand in the path of errant golf balls during tournaments.
I've had a hockey puck slam into a seat near me, over the top of the protective glass behind the crease.
I've had a Coke (paper cup) hit me on the head, thrown by an angry Aggie in the second deck.

What is acceptable risk?
It's not as if the upper deck will be filled with singing, swaying Aggies, shaking things loose.
I found that Aggie behavior concerning, but they do tend to alternate rows in their swaying.

One of The MOB's past drum majors is a professional engineer who specializes in analyzing this sort of thing.
The firm she works for has done work for Rice in the past.
The athletic department could call for her services, if Rice's general counsel senses a risk to the deep pockets that they protect.

(08-27-2023 10:35 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 08:17 AM)greyowl72 Wrote:  

(08-26-2023 11:50 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Well..... this one grabbed my attention when I was watching it....


go to 8:33

Ouch. That hurts.
Structurally unsound? I knew it was old and ugly but structurally unsound?

Is there any truth to that claim? If not, take his butt to court. If there is, why are the Owls still playing there?

How old is that picture?

(08-28-2023 10:16 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 10:35 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 08:17 AM)greyowl72 Wrote:  

(08-26-2023 11:50 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Well..... this one grabbed my attention when I was watching it....


go to 8:33

Ouch. That hurts.
Structurally unsound? I knew it was old and ugly but structurally unsound?

Is there any truth to that claim? If not, take his butt to court. If there is, why are the Owls still playing there?

How old is that picture?

Of Dix Stadium at Kent State?
No telling…

(08-28-2023 01:57 PM)Grungy Wrote:  

(08-28-2023 10:16 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 10:35 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 08:17 AM)greyowl72 Wrote:  

(08-26-2023 11:50 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Well..... this one grabbed my attention when I was watching it....


go to 8:33

Ouch. That hurts.
Structurally unsound? I knew it was old and ugly but structurally unsound?

Is there any truth to that claim? If not, take his butt to court. If there is, why are the Owls still playing there?

How old is that picture?

Of Dix Stadium at Kent State?
No telling…

No, the one of HRS.

But thanks, I was wondering which that one was.

(08-28-2023 05:04 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  No, the one of HRS.
But thanks, I was wondering which that one was.

Photo has Patterson and the bubble, so fairly recent.

(08-28-2023 05:14 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-28-2023 05:04 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  No, the one of HRS.
But thanks, I was wondering which that one was.

Photo has Patterson and the bubble, so fairly recent.

Prior to summer 2022.
The MOB's conducting stand is still in the old location, and looks to be all in one piece.
I started disassembly of it in the summer of 2022.
The south scoreboard also looks to be the 2021 and earlier version, without the white corrugated side panels.



The reviewer does indeed slander the structural integrity of the second decks, claiming that they are closed "for fear they might f***ing fall down".
The other inaccuracy is in saying that they are closed for heavily-attended games, when in fact the east stands are always closed and the upper west stands just don't have many people baking in the sun or enduring the long hike to refreshments.

(08-27-2023 04:56 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 03:48 PM)Grungy Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 10:35 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 08:17 AM)greyowl72 Wrote:  Ouch. That hurts.
Structurally unsound? I knew it was old and ugly but structurally unsound?

Is there any truth to that claim? If not, take his butt to court. If there is, why are the Owls still playing there?

There is no truth to that statement.
What you see is solid.
What you don't see is solid too.

Without demand for second-deck seats (other than the Schaffer family) there hasn't been a lot of motivation to make any improvements or do much of anything beyond base-level maintenance.

Second deck - no concessions, and the restrooms are almost as good as they were in 1950.

Concourse level will have renovated and air-conditioned restrooms on both sides, and the usual trucked-in concessions.
The Flight Decks no longer say "Flight Deck" (after the beer) - they say Amerant (after the sponsoring bank), and there is a set of party decks in the NW and SE corners.

Glad to hear I don't have to wear a hard hat to games!

Admin should contact this idiot and get him to take this down or amend it. I'm no lawyer, but this seems similar to yelling fire in an auditorium in the absence of a fire.

I know you’re not supposed to yell fire in a *crowded* theater.

What’s the legal/social protocol regarding yelling fire in an *empty* theater?

If no one is there to hear it, did you make a sound??

(08-28-2023 08:18 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 04:56 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 03:48 PM)Grungy Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 10:35 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(08-27-2023 08:17 AM)greyowl72 Wrote:  Ouch. That hurts.
Structurally unsound? I knew it was old and ugly but structurally unsound?

Is there any truth to that claim? If not, take his butt to court. If there is, why are the Owls still playing there?

There is no truth to that statement.
What you see is solid.
What you don't see is solid too.

Without demand for second-deck seats (other than the Schaffer family) there hasn't been a lot of motivation to make any improvements or do much of anything beyond base-level maintenance.

Second deck - no concessions, and the restrooms are almost as good as they were in 1950.

Concourse level will have renovated and air-conditioned restrooms on both sides, and the usual trucked-in concessions.
The Flight Decks no longer say "Flight Deck" (after the beer) - they say Amerant (after the sponsoring bank), and there is a set of party decks in the NW and SE corners.

Glad to hear I don't have to wear a hard hat to games!

Admin should contact this idiot and get him to take this down or amend it. I'm no lawyer, but this seems similar to yelling fire in an auditorium in the absence of a fire.

I know you’re not supposed to yell fire in a *crowded* theater.

What’s the legal/social protocol regarding yelling fire in an *empty* theater?

If no one is there to hear it, did you make a sound??

If there is no one there, then there is no one to yell fire, or the stadium is falling.

(08-28-2023 08:18 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  What’s the legal/social protocol regarding yelling fire in an *empty* theater?

What's the use? Or the purpose? To hear echoes?

How are the visitors dressing room in the stadium, still like in the 50s not long after the Korean war?

(08-29-2023 10:55 AM)Texasowl Wrote:  How are the visitors dressing room in the stadium, still like in the 50s not long after the Korean war?

Don’t visiting teams now use the former Owls dressing room after Patterson opened? If so, probably more like the 60s-70s post Vietnam war.

Yes, the visitors are now in the former home team locker room, on the west side of the tunnel.

It's in pretty good shape, comparatively (to the former visitors' space on the east side of the tunnel), but nothing like the palatial suites that home teams now enjoy.

The names of former locker users are still on brass plaques in many of the lockers.

Any recent pictures to show?

(08-31-2023 04:11 PM)Ourland Wrote:  Any recent pictures to show?

I'm trying to balance between being a source of information and really annoying the ADept facilities team.
I like them.
Yes, there are issues and wonders.
I've only gotten a peek through the scrim on the R-Room doors at the progress.
It looks really good, and is very close to ready for the Bayou Bucket luncheon on Wednesday.
That's for them to do the grand reveal - I'm not stealing their thunder.

The west restrooms are nearing completion, and ought to be ready for the game on the 9th. I'm building a photo sequence from start to finish.
They're going to look just like the east restrooms from last year, so no surprises.

There are lots of things that need attention on the south end, but I'm not going to drive Dan & Co crazy with those while they frantically prepare for the home opener. I'll take care of the things that I can do myself.

And I have to get the remaining stuff rescued from the R-Room out of the old visiting team locker room before the refs use that space for the game.
Stephen Trauber came by on Wednesday morning to pick up his 2015 Hall of Fame poster.
He sent a message to Brent Scott, to see if Brent would like to get his poster.
Eva Lee is coming by sometime to pick up her poster, and deliver Hally Beth Poindexter's to her family.

What I can show you.
The ring of honor has been whitewashed preparatory to redoing it, with the Lending Tree Bowl added.



The grass on the north end is simply beyond keeping green in the drought.

Not too much detail here…



And I don’t know if they plan to pressure wash the concrete

(08-31-2023 08:36 PM)Grungy Wrote:  Not too much detail here…



And I don’t know if they plan to pressure was the concrete

Looks like they're waiting to add an additional logo next to the Rice, Texas, Adidas in the middle. Got to be honest, that might throw me off in practice.

15 seconds into Super Bowl VIII

No dont pressure wash it. Keep the antique look.

(09-01-2023 08:36 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(08-31-2023 08:36 PM)Grungy Wrote:  Not too much detail here…



And I don’t know if they plan to pressure was the concrete

Looks like they're waiting to add an additional logo next to the Rice, Texas, Adidas in the middle. Got to be honest, that might throw me off in practice.