(06-02-2023 10:45 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 10:39 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 10:36 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 10:29 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 10:16 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  LOL, college football is not that important.

Mark my post if Fsu somehow gets into the big instead of the sec. And watch them be AAU members the first time after that.

There's a lot of subjectivity and connections with academic affiliations

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Let me get this straight, B1G members let ND into an academic club as a reward for fighting for decades to remain outside the B1G? And this is after some voted to jettison Nebraska from the academic association soon after they joined the football club? It makes zero sense.

What I'm saying is don't be shocked if the carrot is being dangled for FSU to join. A few affiliations with big wigs who have connections in the BIG would magically get them over the hump.

Separate from this I already brought up how it's big for the usf fans and school. I wouldn't have even mentioned FSU had the one guy not been ridiculous acting like AAU affiliation means you're the better school.

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If and when FSU leaves the ACC it will be for the SEC not the BIG, you can book it. The SEC won’t let the BIG get FSU and they are a better fit there.

We shall see on that ultimately. I hope you're right because conferences are for sports and I don't really care about AAU for FSU.

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(06-02-2023 11:23 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 10:45 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 10:39 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 10:36 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 10:29 AM)Ragu Wrote:  Mark my post if Fsu somehow gets into the big instead of the sec. And watch them be AAU members the first time after that.

There's a lot of subjectivity and connections with academic affiliations

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Let me get this straight, B1G members let ND into an academic club as a reward for fighting for decades to remain outside the B1G? And this is after some voted to jettison Nebraska from the academic association soon after they joined the football club? It makes zero sense.

What I'm saying is don't be shocked if the carrot is being dangled for FSU to join. A few affiliations with big wigs who have connections in the BIG would magically get them over the hump.

Separate from this I already brought up how it's big for the usf fans and school. I wouldn't have even mentioned FSU had the one guy not been ridiculous acting like AAU affiliation means you're the better school.

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If and when FSU leaves the ACC it will be for the SEC not the BIG, you can book it. The SEC won’t let the BIG get FSU and they are a better fit there.

We shall see on that ultimately. I hope you're right because conferences are for sports and I don't really care about AAU for FSU.

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The BigTen conference has always been more than just sports, it has an academic share program which is a huge boost for the universities. If I would have a chance to choose between the two for my school it would be the BigTen.

As for USF as stated earlier getting into the AAU is a major academic goal that the university has been working towards for almost 15 years, many laughed at it, even on this board as an impossible goal. Yet here we are,goal accomplished.

USF is on the move and bright days are ahead.

(06-02-2023 11:36 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:23 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 10:45 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 10:39 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 10:36 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  Let me get this straight, B1G members let ND into an academic club as a reward for fighting for decades to remain outside the B1G? And this is after some voted to jettison Nebraska from the academic association soon after they joined the football club? It makes zero sense.

What I'm saying is don't be shocked if the carrot is being dangled for FSU to join. A few affiliations with big wigs who have connections in the BIG would magically get them over the hump.

Separate from this I already brought up how it's big for the usf fans and school. I wouldn't have even mentioned FSU had the one guy not been ridiculous acting like AAU affiliation means you're the better school.

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If and when FSU leaves the ACC it will be for the SEC not the BIG, you can book it. The SEC won’t let the BIG get FSU and they are a better fit there.

We shall see on that ultimately. I hope you're right because conferences are for sports and I don't really care about AAU for FSU.

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The BigTen conference has always been more than just sports, it has an academic share program which is a huge boost for the universities. If I would have a chance to choose between the two for my school it would be the BigTen.

As for USF as stated earlier getting into the AAU is a major academic goal that the university has been working towards for almost 15 years, many laughed at it, even on this board as an impossible goal. Yet here we are,goal accomplished.

USF is on the move and bright days are ahead.

And Fsu is a top 20 public university in the country. Whenever stuff hits the fan, they'll be courted by both of the power 2

The next 2-3 conferences will be way beneath that and a shadow of what they were. The names will carry on but it will pretty much be just the power schools consolidating under 2 banners instead of 4-5.

Still better to be there and USF probably will be. But won't be the same as past acc and big 12

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(06-02-2023 11:42 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:36 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:23 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 10:45 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 10:39 AM)Ragu Wrote:  What I'm saying is don't be shocked if the carrot is being dangled for FSU to join. A few affiliations with big wigs who have connections in the BIG would magically get them over the hump.

Separate from this I already brought up how it's big for the usf fans and school. I wouldn't have even mentioned FSU had the one guy not been ridiculous acting like AAU affiliation means you're the better school.

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If and when FSU leaves the ACC it will be for the SEC not the BIG, you can book it. The SEC won’t let the BIG get FSU and they are a better fit there.

We shall see on that ultimately. I hope you're right because conferences are for sports and I don't really care about AAU for FSU.

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The BigTen conference has always been more than just sports, it has an academic share program which is a huge boost for the universities. If I would have a chance to choose between the two for my school it would be the BigTen.

As for USF as stated earlier getting into the AAU is a major academic goal that the university has been working towards for almost 15 years, many laughed at it, even on this board as an impossible goal. Yet here we are,goal accomplished.

USF is on the move and bright days are ahead.

And Fsu is a top 20 public university in the country. Whenever stuff hits the fan, they'll be courted by both of the power 2

The next 2-3 conferences will be way beneath that and a shadow of what they were. The names will carry on but it will pretty much be just the power schools consolidating under 2 banners instead of 4-5.

Still better to be there and USF probably will be. But won't be the same as past acc and big 12

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And that’s fine. I don’t care about FSU or what it does or whether they get into AAU etc.

This is about USF.

(06-02-2023 11:45 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:42 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:36 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:23 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 10:45 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  If and when FSU leaves the ACC it will be for the SEC not the BIG, you can book it. The SEC won’t let the BIG get FSU and they are a better fit there.

We shall see on that ultimately. I hope you're right because conferences are for sports and I don't really care about AAU for FSU.

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The BigTen conference has always been more than just sports, it has an academic share program which is a huge boost for the universities. If I would have a chance to choose between the two for my school it would be the BigTen.

As for USF as stated earlier getting into the AAU is a major academic goal that the university has been working towards for almost 15 years, many laughed at it, even on this board as an impossible goal. Yet here we are,goal accomplished.

USF is on the move and bright days are ahead.

And Fsu is a top 20 public university in the country. Whenever stuff hits the fan, they'll be courted by both of the power 2

The next 2-3 conferences will be way beneath that and a shadow of what they were. The names will carry on but it will pretty much be just the power schools consolidating under 2 banners instead of 4-5.

Still better to be there and USF probably will be. But won't be the same as past acc and big 12

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And that’s fine. I don’t care about FSU or what it does or whether they get into AAU etc.

This is about USF.

I didn't bring up FSU until your fellow fan acted like AAU propels them ahead of FSU. It doesn't.

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(06-02-2023 11:59 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:45 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:42 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:36 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:23 AM)Ragu Wrote:  We shall see on that ultimately. I hope you're right because conferences are for sports and I don't really care about AAU for FSU.

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The BigTen conference has always been more than just sports, it has an academic share program which is a huge boost for the universities. If I would have a chance to choose between the two for my school it would be the BigTen.

As for USF as stated earlier getting into the AAU is a major academic goal that the university has been working towards for almost 15 years, many laughed at it, even on this board as an impossible goal. Yet here we are,goal accomplished.

USF is on the move and bright days are ahead.

And Fsu is a top 20 public university in the country. Whenever stuff hits the fan, they'll be courted by both of the power 2

The next 2-3 conferences will be way beneath that and a shadow of what they were. The names will carry on but it will pretty much be just the power schools consolidating under 2 banners instead of 4-5.

Still better to be there and USF probably will be. But won't be the same as past acc and big 12

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And that’s fine. I don’t care about FSU or what it does or whether they get into AAU etc.

This is about USF.

I didn't bring up FSU until your fellow fan acted like AAU propels them ahead of FSU. It doesn't.

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As I said, I don’t care about FSU

(06-02-2023 12:01 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:59 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:45 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:42 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:36 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  The BigTen conference has always been more than just sports, it has an academic share program which is a huge boost for the universities. If I would have a chance to choose between the two for my school it would be the BigTen.

As for USF as stated earlier getting into the AAU is a major academic goal that the university has been working towards for almost 15 years, many laughed at it, even on this board as an impossible goal. Yet here we are,goal accomplished.

USF is on the move and bright days are ahead.

And Fsu is a top 20 public university in the country. Whenever stuff hits the fan, they'll be courted by both of the power 2

The next 2-3 conferences will be way beneath that and a shadow of what they were. The names will carry on but it will pretty much be just the power schools consolidating under 2 banners instead of 4-5.

Still better to be there and USF probably will be. But won't be the same as past acc and big 12

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And that’s fine. I don’t care about FSU or what it does or whether they get into AAU etc.

This is about USF.

I didn't bring up FSU until your fellow fan acted like AAU propels them ahead of FSU. It doesn't.

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As I said, I don’t care about FSU

As I said, I only brought them up after a delusional fan equated AAU with passing them up

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(06-02-2023 12:08 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 12:01 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:59 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:45 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:42 AM)Ragu Wrote:  And Fsu is a top 20 public university in the country. Whenever stuff hits the fan, they'll be courted by both of the power 2

The next 2-3 conferences will be way beneath that and a shadow of what they were. The names will carry on but it will pretty much be just the power schools consolidating under 2 banners instead of 4-5.

Still better to be there and USF probably will be. But won't be the same as past acc and big 12

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And that’s fine. I don’t care about FSU or what it does or whether they get into AAU etc.

This is about USF.

I didn't bring up FSU until your fellow fan acted like AAU propels them ahead of FSU. It doesn't.

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As I said, I don’t care about FSU

As I said, I only brought them up after a delusional fan equated AAU with passing them up

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And you did. Now we can get back to the topic at hand, which is USF and the AAU and how it will impact them

(06-02-2023 12:08 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 12:01 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:59 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:45 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:42 AM)Ragu Wrote:  And Fsu is a top 20 public university in the country. Whenever stuff hits the fan, they'll be courted by both of the power 2

The next 2-3 conferences will be way beneath that and a shadow of what they were. The names will carry on but it will pretty much be just the power schools consolidating under 2 banners instead of 4-5.

Still better to be there and USF probably will be. But won't be the same as past acc and big 12

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And that’s fine. I don’t care about FSU or what it does or whether they get into AAU etc.

This is about USF.

I didn't bring up FSU until your fellow fan acted like AAU propels them ahead of FSU. It doesn't.

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As I said, I don’t care about FSU

As I said, I only brought them up after a delusional fan equated AAU with passing them up

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I am generally a lurker. But your spamming of this kudos thread for USF warrants a response.

I graduated from USF and went to grad school at UIUC

The quality of education in the USF Honor’s college was excellent and prepared me for my post-grad professional degree.

Let’s compare FSU and USF using objective measures, not just your intuition or my personal experience:

ARWU Ranking: 201-300 both in same tier

Florida Preeminent Designation: both Universities

AAU Membership: USF only.


FSU is only considered better because they have been there longer and started before there was any competition for the number 2 slot. USF has made a multi-decade commitment to academics, including undergraduate academics. It has shown up in objective gold standard rankings such as the ARWU.

The US News rankings are not really credible, but the two universities are separated by fewer than 50 places and both are in the 50-100 tier. Let’s see what next year’s rankings show when AAU membership is considered in the faculty/prestige portion of the rankings. USF is a hungry university on the rise, FSU is an aging, washed up university, trading on name recognition and preferential treatment by the good old boys in Florida government rather than actual merit.

(06-02-2023 09:14 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 09:09 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 07:21 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 11:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 09:34 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  Y’all are going to catch up to UCF in no time,

We just passed *FSU*.

Only UF is ahead of us in the state among publics.

No you didn't. Aau isn't the same as academic ranking where USF is far behind FSU. It's just research dollars in many cases and buying your way in. Notre Dame wasn't aau until just now and they are far ahead of many older aau schools academically . Nobody had Buffalo ranked over Notre Dame

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IMO, ND vs Buffalo is a case of a "small private" an undergraduate-focused institution, and a "big public" like Buffalo, which makes for IMO a difficult comparison given that AAU has seemingly stressed size and graduate programs in the past. ND was clearly higher-ranked and more prestigious, but had a different focus.

In contrast, FSU and USF are both "big publics", so I think the comparison is more apt.

I do concede that, e.g., US News has FSU ranked considerably higher than USF, and if someone wants to use that metric, they can. But I prefer AAU - LOL. :)

That's because AAU is more about research dollars. A lot of that has to do with attachments to Moffitt which really doesn't impact the majority of USF grads or the academic standing.

That's fine if YOU want to consider it however you want. But logical people know USF didn't pass FSU because of this.

Helps them differentiate from ucf, fiu and FAU and such so it's big. But you are going too far with it is what I'm saying . Buffalo has been AAU for awhile and are in the MAC...

Still I think USF has enough going for it that this will help when the acc is pillaged to get into the watered down acc or the improved big 12 (from what it is now)
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Eh, if I was saying USF had surpassed Notre Dame (before ND got AAU), I would agree I was going too far. But we're talking FSU here. They aren't IMO historically regarded as academic elite. Even now, they are a mid-50 US News school (just to use US News as an example), and just a few years ago were where we are, around the high 90s. Heck, IMO, it wasn't all that long ago that FSU was regarded as a classic "football factory". They have made great strides the last decade or two in academics, as has USF, but they don't have that legacy.

So IMO, in the minds of many people in academia around the country, USF probably has moved past FSU. I could be wrong but I think that being AAU would mean that to many in academia.

Just MO.

(06-02-2023 12:32 PM)UofI.Alumni Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 12:08 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 12:01 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:59 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:45 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  And that’s fine. I don’t care about FSU or what it does or whether they get into AAU etc.

This is about USF.

I didn't bring up FSU until your fellow fan acted like AAU propels them ahead of FSU. It doesn't.

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As I said, I don’t care about FSU

As I said, I only brought them up after a delusional fan equated AAU with passing them up

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I am generally a lurker. But your spamming of this kudos thread for USF warrants a response.

I graduated from USF and went to grad school at UIUC

The quality of education in the USF Honor’s college was excellent and prepared me for my post-grad professional degree.

Let’s compare FSU and USF using objective measures, not just your intuition or my personal experience:

ARWU Ranking: 201-300 both in same tier

Florida Preeminent Designation: both Universities

AAU Membership: USF only.


FSU is only considered better because they have been there longer and started before there was any competition for the number 2 slot. USF has made a multi-decade commitment to academics, including undergraduate academics. It has shown up in objective gold standard rankings such as the ARWU.

The US News rankings are not really credible, but the two universities are separated by fewer than 50 places and both are in the 50-100 tier. Let’s see what next year’s rankings show when AAU membership is considered in the faculty/prestige portion of the rankings. USF is a hungry university on the rise, FSU is an aging, washed up university, trading on name recognition and preferential treatment by the good old boys in Florida government rather than actual merit.

You had me agreeing until that last dig at FSU.

(06-02-2023 12:32 PM)UofI.Alumni Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 12:08 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 12:01 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:59 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-02-2023 11:45 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  And that’s fine. I don’t care about FSU or what it does or whether they get into AAU etc.

This is about USF.

I didn't bring up FSU until your fellow fan acted like AAU propels them ahead of FSU. It doesn't.

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As I said, I don’t care about FSU

As I said, I only brought them up after a delusional fan equated AAU with passing them up

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I am generally a lurker. But your spamming of this kudos thread for USF warrants a response.

I graduated from USF and went to grad school at UIUC

The quality of education in the USF Honor’s college was excellent and prepared me for my post-grad professional degree.

Let’s compare FSU and USF using objective measures, not just your intuition or my personal experience:

ARWU Ranking: 201-300 both in same tier

Florida Preeminent Designation: both Universities

AAU Membership: USF only.


FSU is only considered better because they have been there longer and started before there was any competition for the number 2 slot. USF has made a multi-decade commitment to academics, including undergraduate academics. It has shown up in objective gold standard rankings such as the ARWU.

The US News rankings are not really credible, but the two universities are separated by fewer than 50 places and both are in the 50-100 tier. Let’s see what next year’s rankings show when AAU membership is considered in the faculty/prestige portion of the rankings. USF is a hungry university on the rise, FSU is an aging, washed up university, trading on name recognition and preferential treatment by the good old boys in Florida government rather than actual merit.

All I have to say is lol . Also it isn't spamming when I just responded to a baseless statement that brought in FSU at the start and then quoted people who quoted me first after that. ..

Don't make baseless statements bringing in other universities first if you don't want others responding to it

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clt is still shocked that asu was allowed in.

"Can I get into ASU with a 2.7 GPA?" is a top result on the google search

Amazing how one university's achievement on this forum inevitably turns into mine is bigger than yours BS. Human nature I suppose......

Congrats USF on a major academic achievement.

Well done USF. I must agree, this makes you (plus your Florida zip code) a very temping target for any "power" league.

(06-03-2023 08:45 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  Well done USF. I must agree, this makes you (plus your Florida zip code) a very temping target for any "power" league.

Were Rice and Buffalo targets for power leagues and I missed something ?

AAU is nice and all but it hasnt had much impact on conference realignment for the G5

Buffalo is in the MAC
Tulane is in the AAC
Rice just got into the AAC

So I don't get the correlation into usf going to a power conference because of AAU ...

I think USF is in the same situation as before with conference realignment. They are in the top 4 as most likely to move along with SMU, Tulane and Memphis once crap hits the fan down the line

It will be a power 2 which none of the AAC will get into with the SEC and BIG. Then a lesser 2-3 conferences which won't be the same calibre or tier. There won't be a power 4 or 5 anymore. The top programs will consolidate in the sec and big.

Still better to be in the next tier of 2-3 who aren't power conferences over being below that. Those 4 along with San Diego State etc will get into that middle group

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(06-03-2023 08:53 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-03-2023 08:45 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  Well done USF. I must agree, this makes you (plus your Florida zip code) a very temping target for any "power" league.

Were Rice and Buffalo targets for power leagues and I missed something ?

AAU is nice and all but it hasnt had much impact on conference realignment for the G5

Buffalo is in the MAC
Tulane is in the AAC
Rice just got into the AAC

So I don't get the correlation into usf going to a power conference because of AAU ...

I think USF is in the same situation as before with conference realignment. They are in the top 4 as most likely to move along with SMU, Tulane and Memphis once crap hits the fan down the line

It will be a power 2 which none of the AAC will get into with the SEC and BIG. Then a lesser 2-3 conferences which won't be the same calibre or tier. There won't be a power 4 or 5 anymore. The top programs will consolidate in the sec and big.

Still better to be in the next tier of 2-3 who aren't power conferences over being below that. Those 4 along with San Diego State etc will get into that middle group

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(plus your Florida zip code)

(06-03-2023 08:57 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(06-03-2023 08:53 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-03-2023 08:45 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  Well done USF. I must agree, this makes you (plus your Florida zip code) a very temping target for any "power" league.

Were Rice and Buffalo targets for power leagues and I missed something ?

AAU is nice and all but it hasnt had much impact on conference realignment for the G5

Buffalo is in the MAC
Tulane is in the AAC
Rice just got into the AAC

So I don't get the correlation into usf going to a power conference because of AAU ...

I think USF is in the same situation as before with conference realignment. They are in the top 4 as most likely to move along with SMU, Tulane and Memphis once crap hits the fan down the line

It will be a power 2 which none of the AAC will get into with the SEC and BIG. Then a lesser 2-3 conferences which won't be the same calibre or tier. There won't be a power 4 or 5 anymore. The top programs will consolidate in the sec and big.

Still better to be in the next tier of 2-3 who aren't power conferences over being below that. Those 4 along with San Diego State etc will get into that middle group

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(plus your Florida zip code)

Which they are still behind the big 3 and ucf in. AAU doesn't trump athletics for athletic conference affiliation. Texas is big for sports. Did Rice jump those schools being AAU?

It's a big thing for USF but it isn't going to effect their standing in conference realignment. They are still in the group of 4 who will move on to the next tier after the power 2 when crap hits the fan.

Better place than those of us who are uncertain if we will get there but they were already in that group before AAU

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(06-03-2023 09:05 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-03-2023 08:57 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(06-03-2023 08:53 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-03-2023 08:45 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  Well done USF. I must agree, this makes you (plus your Florida zip code) a very temping target for any "power" league.

Were Rice and Buffalo targets for power leagues and I missed something ?

AAU is nice and all but it hasnt had much impact on conference realignment for the G5

Buffalo is in the MAC
Tulane is in the AAC
Rice just got into the AAC

So I don't get the correlation into usf going to a power conference because of AAU ...

I think USF is in the same situation as before with conference realignment. They are in the top 4 as most likely to move along with SMU, Tulane and Memphis once crap hits the fan down the line

It will be a power 2 which none of the AAC will get into with the SEC and BIG. Then a lesser 2-3 conferences which won't be the same calibre or tier. There won't be a power 4 or 5 anymore. The top programs will consolidate in the sec and big.

Still better to be in the next tier of 2-3 who aren't power conferences over being below that. Those 4 along with San Diego State etc will get into that middle group

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(plus your Florida zip code)

Which they are still behind the big 3 and ucf in. AAU doesn't trump athletics for athletic conference affiliation

It's a big thing for USF but it isn't going to effect their standing in conference realignment. They are still in the group of 4 who will move on to the next tier after the power 2 when crap hits the fan.

Better place than those of us who are uncertain if we will get there but they were already in that group before AAU

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Agreed.

I would argue the next contraction will be the obvious SEC and BIG10 raiding whatever is left to raid and forming a semi-pro league called The Prime Power Conferences (sponsored by Amazon)

The PAC, ACC, and Big12 solidifying the left behinds in what will be called The 2nd Round Draft Pick Conferences with the AAC and MWC strap hanging like unwanted step-children in what will be called The Development Conferences; SBC, CUSA, etc will shed schools as the financial payday of college football goes away and consolidate to join the AAC and MWC as one of the DCs.

And there you have the NFL pipeline all laid out and monetized. Welcome to 21st Century College Football (Sponsored by GEICO)

(06-03-2023 09:22 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

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(06-03-2023 08:53 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(06-03-2023 08:45 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  Well done USF. I must agree, this makes you (plus your Florida zip code) a very temping target for any "power" league.

Were Rice and Buffalo targets for power leagues and I missed something ?

AAU is nice and all but it hasnt had much impact on conference realignment for the G5

Buffalo is in the MAC
Tulane is in the AAC
Rice just got into the AAC

So I don't get the correlation into usf going to a power conference because of AAU ...

I think USF is in the same situation as before with conference realignment. They are in the top 4 as most likely to move along with SMU, Tulane and Memphis once crap hits the fan down the line

It will be a power 2 which none of the AAC will get into with the SEC and BIG. Then a lesser 2-3 conferences which won't be the same calibre or tier. There won't be a power 4 or 5 anymore. The top programs will consolidate in the sec and big.

Still better to be in the next tier of 2-3 who aren't power conferences over being below that. Those 4 along with San Diego State etc will get into that middle group

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(plus your Florida zip code)

Which they are still behind the big 3 and ucf in. AAU doesn't trump athletics for athletic conference affiliation

It's a big thing for USF but it isn't going to effect their standing in conference realignment. They are still in the group of 4 who will move on to the next tier after the power 2 when crap hits the fan.

Better place than those of us who are uncertain if we will get there but they were already in that group before AAU

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Agreed.

I would argue the next contraction will be the obvious SEC and BIG10 raiding whatever is left to raid and forming a semi-pro league called The Prime Power Conferences (sponsored by Amazon)

The PAC, ACC, and Big12 solidifying the left behinds in what will be called The 2nd Round Draft Pick Conferences with the AAC and MWC strap hanging like unwanted step-children in what will be called The Development Conferences; SBC, CUSA, etc will shed schools as the financial payday of college football goes away and consolidate to join the AAC and MWC as one of the DCs.

And there you have the NFL pipeline all laid out and monetized. Welcome to 21st Century College Football (Sponsored by GEICO)

It's possible that second tier will only be 2 instead of 3 conferences . Big could take 4 and big 12 another 4 and the PAC dies. Or keeps the name and absorbs the mwc which dies.

Really expect the big 12 to be the leader in the next tier with one other conference like the acc next

Then as you said a lower third tier

Those 4 AAC schools will probably be tier 2. As I said , USF was in that group before AAU but it's a nice cherry on top

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