(06-05-2023 11:53 AM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote: (06-01-2023 08:57 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote: (06-01-2023 06:18 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote: (06-01-2023 05:39 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (06-01-2023 01:45 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote: clt says congrats and how did asu make it?
Arizona State is behemoth, they really have a lot going on at that Tempe campus. I recall visiting there for the first time 25 years ago and being very impressed. I bet it has grown a lot since then too. The focus in the media sometimes seems to be on the quantity, but they have a lot of deep-faculty quality there as well.
clt says it is hard to believe they are aau with that acceptance rate.
1. acceptance rate is a meaningless number and it says nothing at all about the ease or difficulty of being admitted to a university
2. the AAU looks at the overall mission of a university and in The State of Arizona with only 3 public universities it is not possible for a public university to have extremely high admissions standards because that defeats the purpose of them being a public university in a state with limited options
this in contrast to a place like Texas or California with 30 or more public universities each it is much easier for some universities to have extremely high admissions requirements because there are still plenty of other options for students
and the AAU will take that into consideration when they use the "peer" comparisons of universities both in and outside of the AAU
Acceptance rate is one thing, but being allowed to take courses in a particular major at the university is another matter. Not everyone that gets accepted at UCF, for example, is going to be able to get into any undergraduate program they want.
people like to pretend that acceptance rate is a showing of how difficult it is to get into a university when it is in fact no such thing.....it only shows the % of unqualified applicants to qualified applicants with nothing at all that shows what qualifications were needed to be accepted
if one school has admissions that require top 5% of HS class and a 1400 SAT and they have 2,000 applicants and 1,800 of them meet that metric they have a 90% acceptance rate
if another school requires one to be in the top 50% of their HS class and to have a 950 SAT and they have 20,000 applicants and admit 10,000 of them with those qualifications they have a 50% acceptance rate.....but the school with the 90% rate had the much higher qualified applicants and admits
this is not picking on Florida it can be done for any state, but look at the US Snooze and sort by acceptance rate
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/fl?...ection=asc
in Florida two you would expect to see are at the top, but then FAMU is 3rd and then a couple of more one might expect and then universities most people have never heard of show up
with FAMU they are going to have a lot of applicants that are applying there as a "reach" and hoping to be admitted under the "general review" or whatever their university calls it...because FAMU is a state school they can make room for students and collect that funding, but because of the nature of their school it is going to be a more limited overall applicant pool.....but it will appeal to those that "hope" for a general review admit because FAMU is going to have a lot of those so they can hit enrollment goals....while a number of other universities with much more broad applicant pools and no issue having a large or even massive enrollment need very firm admissions and that do not have a lot of slots for "general review" students are not going to get those applicants because applicants know it is a waste of time and effort
there is an opposite effect with some of the very top schools as well.....every valedictorian and salutatorian out there especially if they "check a box" are going to submit applications to places like Harvard, Yale, and Stanford on the hopes they somehow make the grade and probably on the advice of their guidance person.....but the vast majority of them know there is little to no chance, but why not
but when you get down to private universities that do not have near the same cache as those top schools you get applicants looking at them as a "safety school" or as a school they might be able to attend with some tuition support from the school....and they will not have quite the same firm admissions and might need some "general review" admits to round out their freshman class....thus they get more "reach" applicants that are ultimately rejected and thus their admissions rate is lowered
