CrimsonPhantom
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RE: Marine kills homeless man in nyc
Quote:This is how logic works:
If many active shooters suffer from depression, anti-social behavior, schizophrenia, gender dysphoria, or other mental illnesses, and police/ citizens must shoot or restrain them when they pose a threat to the public, then YES, logical people identify mental illness as a threat that unfortunately sometimes must be stopped.
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RE: Marine kills homeless man in nyc
(05-07-2023 12:18 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:
Quote:This is how logic works:
If many active shooters suffer from depression, anti-social behavior, schizophrenia, gender dysphoria, or other mental illnesses, and police/ citizens must shoot or restrain them when they pose a threat to the public, then YES, logical people identify mental illness as a threat that unfortunately sometimes must be stopped.
What the hell is new about a bunch of entitled street thugs threatening violence if they don't get their way? Is this not what was happening in the subway when the death occurred? Threatening violence against a city is a crime in itself, it is not protest. It's time to meet the violence brutally, and to put an end to people thinking that threatening a riot is leverage.
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RE: Marine kills homeless man in nyc
(05-05-2023 04:11 PM)DavidSt Wrote: (05-04-2023 07:10 PM)Niner National Wrote: Not saying it was right to kill him, but he had been arrested 40+ times. Guy did society a favor at the cost of his own freedom.
I simply don’t have pity for habitual criminals anymore. The homeless are becoming a plague and many cannot be rehabilitated into functional members of society.
The poor guy have been down in the dumps after his mother was murdered. He needed help, but not killed.
So, in retaliation he decided to avenge his mother by assaulting innocent people. That definitely is the wrong way.
Let me tell you a story of my life before finding Christ. My ex-wife had found someone else and it devastated me because I thought that things were going well...they weren't. So, I met this German woman who had eyes for me and wanted a liason and I was telling this to my sister and she gave it to me straight. "You were cheated on and now you want to do the same thing to this woman's husband who's away". That made a lot of sense. If I didn't like being cheated on why would this woman's husband think it was alright. In short, two wrongs don't make a right.
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RE: Marine kills homeless man in nyc
(05-06-2023 09:27 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: These tards protesting the subway 
So glad I don’t have to use mass transit
The thing that doesn't even surprise me now is that the ratio of white protestors to black protestors was about 15-1. What's in the head of white liberals who advocate for unrest. Sure, we know that they are marxists and as such makes them much more stupid because they sure don't know the outcome of a socialist government. They'll be like the French who elected Macron and then get upset at how he is governing. No sense at all. Like children who cry they want something and then get upset because it wasn't what they thought it would be.
There's a lot of people needing Jesus, I tell you. Tsk, too bad for them in the end.
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Eagleyed
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RE: Marine kills homeless man in nyc
The left's no justice no peace is the same ole suspending innocent until proven guilty. These protesters do not want a fair trial.
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RE: Marine kills homeless man in nyc
Neely didn’t deserve to die. With that being said he shouldn’t have threatened passengers on the train. If he was hungry he should have went to one of a number of shelters for a meal.
As it was Jordan chose to victimize innocent commuters as he had apparently done multiple times before.
If the NYC social services had valued Jordan Neely he would still be alive.
If the NYC judicial system had valued the welfare of its citizens Jordan Neely he would still be alive.
As it was Jordan expected everyone on that train to give him a pass just like they always did. Unfortunately for Neely he met a group of passengers who refused to do that.
While Jordan Neely’s death is unfortunate, the failed policies of NYC are just as responsible for his death as the marine who restrained him.
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RE: Marine kills homeless man in nyc
(05-07-2023 07:23 PM)CardinalJim Wrote: Neely didn’t deserve to die. With that being said he shouldn’t have threatened passengers on the train. If he was hungry he should have went to one of a number of shelters for a meal.
As it was Jordan chose to victimize innocent commuters as he had apparently done multiple times before.
If the NYC social services had valued Jordan Neely he would still be alive.
If the NYC judicial system had valued the welfare of its citizens Jordan Neely he would still be alive.
As it was Jordan expected everyone on that train to give him a pass just like they always did. Unfortunately for Neely he met a group of passengers who refused to do that.
While Jordan Neely’s death is unfortunate, the failed policies of NYC are just as responsible for his death as the marine who restrained him.
If the Marine didn't kill him he would still be alive period.
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RE: Marine kills homeless man in nyc
Deadly force should be used if your life or someone else’s life is in danger.
Home dudes life wasn’t in danger, he held a blood choke for a LONG time. Anyone who knows how to effectively lock in a blood choke knows not to hold past when they pass out, which happens fast when you cut the blood flow off. Choking someone to death is murder.
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RE: Marine kills homeless man in nyc
(05-07-2023 07:38 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote: (05-07-2023 07:23 PM)CardinalJim Wrote: Neely didn’t deserve to die. With that being said he shouldn’t have threatened passengers on the train. If he was hungry he should have went to one of a number of shelters for a meal.
As it was Jordan chose to victimize innocent commuters as he had apparently done multiple times before.
If the NYC social services had valued Jordan Neely he would still be alive.
If the NYC judicial system had valued the welfare of its citizens Jordan Neely he would still be alive.
As it was Jordan expected everyone on that train to give him a pass just like they always did. Unfortunately for Neely he met a group of passengers who refused to do that.
While Jordan Neely’s death is unfortunate, the failed policies of NYC are just as responsible for his death as the marine who restrained him.
If the Marine didn't kill him he would still be alive period.
The point is after 40 encounters with the Judicial system he should never have been in the position to harass innocent people on the train. The judges who let him walk 40 times are just a negligent as the young marine.
(This post was last modified: 05-07-2023 08:09 PM by CardinalJim.)
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RE: Marine kills homeless man in nyc
(05-07-2023 07:38 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote: (05-07-2023 07:23 PM)CardinalJim Wrote: Neely didn’t deserve to die. With that being said he shouldn’t have threatened passengers on the train. If he was hungry he should have went to one of a number of shelters for a meal.
As it was Jordan chose to victimize innocent commuters as he had apparently done multiple times before.
If the NYC social services had valued Jordan Neely he would still be alive.
If the NYC judicial system had valued the welfare of its citizens Jordan Neely he would still be alive.
As it was Jordan expected everyone on that train to give him a pass just like they always did. Unfortunately for Neely he met a group of passengers who refused to do that.
While Jordan Neely’s death is unfortunate, the failed policies of NYC are just as responsible for his death as the marine who restrained him.
If the Marine didn't kill him he would still be alive period.
And....your point?
Give the Marine a medal.
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RE: Marine kills homeless man in nyc
(05-07-2023 09:23 PM)shere khan Wrote: (05-07-2023 07:38 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote: (05-07-2023 07:23 PM)CardinalJim Wrote: Neely didn’t deserve to die. With that being said he shouldn’t have threatened passengers on the train. If he was hungry he should have went to one of a number of shelters for a meal.
As it was Jordan chose to victimize innocent commuters as he had apparently done multiple times before.
If the NYC social services had valued Jordan Neely he would still be alive.
If the NYC judicial system had valued the welfare of its citizens Jordan Neely he would still be alive.
As it was Jordan expected everyone on that train to give him a pass just like they always did. Unfortunately for Neely he met a group of passengers who refused to do that.
While Jordan Neely’s death is unfortunate, the failed policies of NYC are just as responsible for his death as the marine who restrained him.
If the Marine didn't kill him he would still be alive period.
And....your point?
Give the Marine a medal.
Amazing how hard they are defending a man who tried to kidnap a 7 year old girl. Nah I'm not sad a crazed lunatic criminal bite the dust.
I'd prefer him in a mental institution alive, but the left will never let such people be forcibly moved to such institutions so this is really the only option.
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Marine kills homeless man in nyc
Just watched a few of those videos.
Yup.
Confirmed.
Freaking loons gon’ loon.
Class dismissed
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RE: Marine kills homeless man in nyc
Guy making threats on the subway got his bluff called and was killed for it.
Don’t make threats and you’re good. Pretty simple.
Liberals can’t understand common sense.
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RE: Marine kills homeless man in nyc
 (05-07-2023 10:00 PM)Eagleyed Wrote: (05-07-2023 09:23 PM)shere khan Wrote: (05-07-2023 07:38 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote: (05-07-2023 07:23 PM)CardinalJim Wrote: Neely didn’t deserve to die. With that being said he shouldn’t have threatened passengers on the train. If he was hungry he should have went to one of a number of shelters for a meal.
As it was Jordan chose to victimize innocent commuters as he had apparently done multiple times before.
If the NYC social services had valued Jordan Neely he would still be alive.
If the NYC judicial system had valued the welfare of its citizens Jordan Neely he would still be alive.
As it was Jordan expected everyone on that train to give him a pass just like they always did. Unfortunately for Neely he met a group of passengers who refused to do that.
While Jordan Neely’s death is unfortunate, the failed policies of NYC are just as responsible for his death as the marine who restrained him.
If the Marine didn't kill him he would still be alive period.
And....your point?
Give the Marine a medal.
Amazing how hard they are defending a man who tried to kidnap a 7 year old girl. Nah I'm not sad a crazed lunatic criminal bite the dust.
I'd prefer him in a mental institution alive, but the left will never let such people be forcibly moved to such institutions so this is really the only option.
to both bold text ….. why?
that’s why the pubs are pansies…
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RE: Marine kills homeless man in nyc
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RE: Marine kills homeless man in nyc
(05-08-2023 09:46 AM)stinkfist Wrote: to both bold text ….. why?
that’s why the pubs are pansies…
In a word
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RE: Marine kills homeless man in nyc
So your plan is to "tear the city down".
Your terms are acceptable.
We'll set up a perimeter to keep you in.
Please shove it all into the Hudson.
Thank you.
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RE: Marine kills homeless man in nyc
(05-08-2023 09:46 AM)stinkfist Wrote: (05-07-2023 10:00 PM)Eagleyed Wrote: Amazing how hard they are defending a man who tried to kidnap a 7 year old girl. Nah I'm not sad a crazed lunatic criminal bite the dust.
I'd prefer him in a mental institution alive, but the left will never let such people be forcibly moved to such institutions so this is really the only option.
to both bold text ….. why?
that’s why the pubs are pansies…
Because people with mental illness shouldn't be executed for having a mental illness. That's some Nazi level stuff right there.
I don't think the marine did anything wrong, but really not wanting anyone with a mental illness to die makes one a pansie?  
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