(03-28-2023 07:47 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  The truth means nothing to these people. A mentally ill person murdered 6 people and all the leftists want to talk about is "guns". Guns didn't kill those people. A sick deranged person committed an atrocity and guns were just the vehicle.

Twisted pieces of chit just like her.

How many more times will a mentally ill person be allowed to do this before we try something else? Because what we are doing is not working. The definition of insanity.

(03-28-2023 08:51 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 07:03 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 06:41 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 06:16 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  The left is desperate to blame Nashville shooting on:
Guns -- yes
Anti-genital mutilation bills -- debatable
Gov. Lee -- sign stupid bills, win stupid prizes
Christian parents -- no
Rightwing influencers -- you mean like Charlie Kirk talking

They refuse to blame:
The shooter herself -- absolutely to blame
Mental illness -- blame this every time.
Hormone therapy -- how do we know this contributed? How many mass murders have been trans
Media incitement -- Like Charlie Kirk?
Trans vengeance movement --wtf is he talking about?

Unlike you and other leftwing lemmings, most of us on the right don't need somebody to tell them what to think. If you want to call Charlie Kirk a media influencer, have at it. I don't care, as I don't know anybody influenced by him or his opinions.

Whenever a democrat does this it's usually the first time I've ever paid attention to the name. I guess Charlie Kirk is someone I should know.

I remember when some liberal jacka$$ whose dead daughter had this board named after her told me I only thought the way I did because I followed Alex Jones...I had to google who the hell Alex Jones was. Lol

It’s the politics of personal destruction. They’ll do the same to every single visible conservative. Nothing at all wrong with Charlie Kirk.
Now, as far as liberals go. There’s four of them on the view that are a lot worse than Charlie Kirk ever thought about being.

No. I know plenty of conservatives, family, friends and coworkers. Even a few of you dunces here. I am not trying to destroy or cancel him. I just said I thought he is wrong. Why is it you focus on Kirk and not were I refuted the things he said liberals were trying to deny? Telling, very telling.

(03-28-2023 09:31 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 06:40 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 05:02 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 04:54 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 04:44 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  Because getting out of the ghetto is so easy right? Your privilege is showing.

It is also important to note that gun theft is believed to be significantly underreported. Only 11 states and D.C. require gun owners to report a stolen weapon. Wonder why that is?

Privilege? Loololololol

The lib mantra. There are so many predictable lib horse$hit talking points who can keep up….

Then please give us your 100% tired and true method for doing so?

Of doing what exactly?

And Memphis, unfortunately, IS the ghetto. No matter where you live in the area, the ghetto comes to you. The ghetto has swallowed areas like Cordova, East Memphis, Wolfchase and other recently nice areas. The once beautiful and safe city is now a cesspool.

Based on what? White flight? I have not lived in Memphis for sometime now but I do visit. Calling the areas you mentioned ghetto is messed up.

White flight? Bwahahaha still the go to I see.

I live in an area outside of Memphis and in my small neighborhood alone it's probably 25% black well to do families. Why do you think they choose not to live in the places he mentioned?

Crime numbnuts, thats why.




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(03-28-2023 07:47 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  The truth means nothing to these people. A mentally ill person murdered 6 people and all the leftists want to talk about is "guns". Guns didn't kill those people. A sick deranged person committed an atrocity and guns were just the vehicle.

Twisted pieces of chit just like her.

Incited by idiots like this leftist commie and her merry band of morons on national TV

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(03-28-2023 09:42 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 09:31 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 06:40 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 05:02 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 04:54 PM)450bench Wrote:  Privilege? Loololololol

The lib mantra. There are so many predictable lib horse$hit talking points who can keep up….

Then please give us your 100% tired and true method for doing so?

Of doing what exactly?

And Memphis, unfortunately, IS the ghetto. No matter where you live in the area, the ghetto comes to you. The ghetto has swallowed areas like Cordova, East Memphis, Wolfchase and other recently nice areas. The once beautiful and safe city is now a cesspool.

Based on what? White flight? I have not lived in Memphis for sometime now but I do visit. Calling the areas you mentioned ghetto is messed up.

White flight? Bwahahaha still the go to I see.

I live in an area outside of Memphis and in my small neighborhood alone it's probably 25% black well to do families. Why do you think they choose not to live in the places he mentioned?

Crime numbnuts, thats why.




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And could it be that one is tied to the other or and you always going to give us anecdotal evidence?

Fonda's dead corpse should be swinging from a tree with the buzzards picking it apart, one piece of smelly liberal has-been flesh at a time. She betrayed the US during the Vietnam War, and continues to undermine this country. Kill the Cont.

(03-28-2023 09:49 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 09:42 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 09:31 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 06:40 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 05:02 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  Then please give us your 100% tired and true method for doing so?

Of doing what exactly?

And Memphis, unfortunately, IS the ghetto. No matter where you live in the area, the ghetto comes to you. The ghetto has swallowed areas like Cordova, East Memphis, Wolfchase and other recently nice areas. The once beautiful and safe city is now a cesspool.

Based on what? White flight? I have not lived in Memphis for sometime now but I do visit. Calling the areas you mentioned ghetto is messed up.

White flight? Bwahahaha still the go to I see.

I live in an area outside of Memphis and in my small neighborhood alone it's probably 25% black well to do families. Why do you think they choose not to live in the places he mentioned?

Crime numbnuts, thats why.




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And could it be that one is tied to the other or and you always going to give us anecdotal evidence?

What the hell are you asking, spit it out...

What is tied to one another...people leaving areas behind because they are fed up with crime?

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I’m not going to claim I’ve read through the entirety of this thread about a degenerate, obviously mentally ill thing committing a horrific act in the name of leftist, prog filth agenda, enabled by every single one of you who continues to vote for this crap. But, has this point been made?

When these events happen, there’s always talk about compromise. Where exactly is the compromise promoted by the leftists? It never exists. It’s always the right that needs to make concessions as if we aren’t talking about a constitutional right. Is the left willing to concede that trannies are mentally unwell and should be stripped of their constitutional rights? That inner city blacks are statistically far more likely to commit violent crimes and not allowed to vote? I don’t believe that either should be the case.

There’s some mythical middle ground with the 2a apparently that just so happens to not exist with ANY other right. I’ll give some ground on the 2nd as soon as I will on issues like poll taxes or literacy tests for voting, which is to say never.

(03-28-2023 09:37 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 07:47 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  The truth means nothing to these people. A mentally ill person murdered 6 people and all the leftists want to talk about is "guns". Guns didn't kill those people. A sick deranged person committed an atrocity and guns were just the vehicle.

Twisted pieces of chit just like her.

How many more times will a mentally ill person be allowed to do this before we try something else? Because what we are doing is not working. The definition of insanity.

Your sides stupid ideas about gun restriction don't work either. Some of the deadliest cities in America have the most restrictive gun laws in the nation.

Yet every time this comes up all the left wants to do is take away more rights from law abiding citizens.

The definition of insanity.

Therein lies the problem. There is no permanent middle ground.

Every concession is just the next step to the next one.

This is coming from a gun owner who wouldn't have a problem with some of the proposals out there.

I simply don't trust the left and even they know they wouldn't stop.

(03-28-2023 06:16 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 05:32 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 05:28 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

And that sums up the hive mind responses in this thread

The left is desperate to blame Nashville shooting on:
Guns -- yes
Anti-genital mutilation bills -- debatable
Gov. Lee -- sign stupid bills, win stupid prizes
Christian parents -- no
Rightwing influencers -- you mean like Charlie Kirk talking

They refuse to blame:
The shooter herself -- absolutely to blame
Mental illness -- blame this every time.
Hormone therapy -- how do we know this contributed? How many mass murders have been trans
Media incitement -- Like Charlie Kirk?
Trans vengeance movement --wtf is he talking about?

Don't worry. He's just a step ahead of you.

He's talking about this: https://www.transradicalactivistnetwork....-vengeance

(03-28-2023 09:37 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 07:47 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  The truth means nothing to these people. A mentally ill person murdered 6 people and all the leftists want to talk about is "guns". Guns didn't kill those people. A sick deranged person committed an atrocity and guns were just the vehicle.

Twisted pieces of chit just like her.

How many more times will a mentally ill person be allowed to do this before we try something else? Because what we are doing is not working. The definition of insanity.

I don't think people are allowed to engage in mass homicide, mentally ill or not.

They choose to do it.

(03-28-2023 09:31 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 06:40 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 05:02 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 04:54 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 04:44 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  Because getting out of the ghetto is so easy right? Your privilege is showing.

It is also important to note that gun theft is believed to be significantly underreported. Only 11 states and D.C. require gun owners to report a stolen weapon. Wonder why that is?

Privilege? Loololololol

The lib mantra. There are so many predictable lib horse$hit talking points who can keep up….

Then please give us your 100% tired and true method for doing so?

Of doing what exactly?

And Memphis, unfortunately, IS the ghetto. No matter where you live in the area, the ghetto comes to you. The ghetto has swallowed areas like Cordova, East Memphis, Wolfchase and other recently nice areas. The once beautiful and safe city is now a cesspool.

Based on what? White flight? I have not lived in Memphis for sometime now but I do visit. Calling the areas you mentioned ghetto is messed up.

Messed up? It’s the truth. Memphis has become th ghetto. Everywhere.

(03-28-2023 01:18 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  The majority opinion on Heller says specifically it isn’t a default ban on all gun control, and a wide range of gun control laws remain presumptively lawful including laws that (1) prohibit carrying concealed weapons, (2) prohibit gun possession by felons or the mentally retarded, (3) prohibit carrying firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, (4) impose “conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms,” (5) prohibit “dangerous and unusual weapons,” and (6) regulate firearm storage to prevent accidents.

I'm very interested in the bolded part of your post as I cannot find it in the majority opinion as filed. I can find items 1-5 (though not number and in that order) in a single paragraph on page 54. The following pages go on to list common restrictions that the court had not issue with, but "regulate firearm storage and to prevent accidents" is not one I can find in the text of the opinion. Can you share your source?

(03-29-2023 08:21 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 01:18 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  The majority opinion on Heller says specifically it isn’t a default ban on all gun control, and a wide range of gun control laws remain presumptively lawful including laws that (1) prohibit carrying concealed weapons, (2) prohibit gun possession by felons or the mentally retarded, (3) prohibit carrying firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, (4) impose “conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms,” (5) prohibit “dangerous and unusual weapons,” and (6) regulate firearm storage to prevent accidents.

I'm very interested in the bolded part of your post as I cannot find it in the majority opinion as filed. I can find items 1-5 (though not number and in that order) in a single paragraph on page 54. The following pages go on to list common restrictions that the court had not issue with, but "regulate firearm storage and to prevent accidents" is not one I can find in the text of the opinion. Can you share your source?

NO

Frick the prog filth, they lie.

remember we just wanna be tolerated, left alone and allowed to marry

now we have trannys shooting 9 years olds

Just frick em

(03-29-2023 08:21 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 01:18 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  The majority opinion on Heller says specifically it isn’t a default ban on all gun control, and a wide range of gun control laws remain presumptively lawful including laws that (1) prohibit carrying concealed weapons, (2) prohibit gun possession by felons or the mentally retarded, (3) prohibit carrying firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, (4) impose “conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms,” (5) prohibit “dangerous and unusual weapons,” and (6) regulate firearm storage to prevent accidents.

I'm very interested in the bolded part of your post as I cannot find it in the majority opinion as filed. I can find items 1-5 (though not number and in that order) in a single paragraph on page 54. The following pages go on to list common restrictions that the court had not issue with, but "regulate firearm storage and to prevent accidents" is not one I can find in the text of the opinion. Can you share your source?

He makes up most of his posts.

(03-28-2023 09:37 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 07:47 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  The truth means nothing to these people. A mentally ill person murdered 6 people and all the leftists want to talk about is "guns". Guns didn't kill those people. A sick deranged person committed an atrocity and guns were just the vehicle.

Twisted pieces of chit just like her.

How many more times will a mentally ill person be allowed to do this before we try something else? Because what we are doing is not working. The definition of insanity.

You tell me. You're just another of the mentally ill in this country. Maybe you can explain it from your own experience?

(03-28-2023 10:48 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Therein lies the problem. There is no permanent middle ground.

Every concession is just the next step to the next one.

This is coming from a gun owner who wouldn't have a problem with some of the proposals out there.

I simply don't trust the left and even they know they wouldn't stop.

Winner why being a moderate conservative makes no sense.

(03-29-2023 06:17 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 09:31 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 06:40 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 05:02 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 04:54 PM)450bench Wrote:  Privilege? Loololololol

The lib mantra. There are so many predictable lib horse$hit talking points who can keep up….

Then please give us your 100% tired and true method for doing so?

Of doing what exactly?

And Memphis, unfortunately, IS the ghetto. No matter where you live in the area, the ghetto comes to you. The ghetto has swallowed areas like Cordova, East Memphis, Wolfchase and other recently nice areas. The once beautiful and safe city is now a cesspool.

Based on what? White flight? I have not lived in Memphis for sometime now but I do visit. Calling the areas you mentioned ghetto is messed up.

Messed up? It’s the truth. Memphis has become th ghetto. Everywhere.

And there is a very specific reason WHY the "ghetto" has expanded its reach across the metro area.

I've shared it before, but this article from The Atlantic in the summer of 2008, American Murder Mystery, explains it in explicit detail.

And just an FYI... lots of people moved from Memphis to DeSoto County, MS just across the state line.

Now it's commonplace to see stories in the news where a crime occurred in DeSoto County and police chase the perps as they flee across the state line back into Memphis.

From the linked article...

Richard Janikowski was a criminologist at the University of Memphis. He had been working inside the police department tracking crime trends.

Quote:Janikowski might not have managed to pinpoint the cause of this pattern if he hadn’t been married to Phyllis Betts, a housing expert at the University of Memphis. Betts and Janikowski have two dogs, three cats, and no kids; they both tend to bring their work home with them. Betts had been evaluating the impact of one of the city government’s most ambitious initiatives: the demolition of the city’s public-housing projects, as part of a nationwide experiment to free the poor from the destructive effects of concentrated poverty. Memphis demolished its first project in 1997. The city gave former residents federal “Section8” rent-subsidy vouchers and encouraged them to move out to new neighborhoods. Two more waves of demolition followed over the next nine years, dispersing tens of thousands of poor people into the wider metro community.

If police departments are usually stingy with their information, housing departments are even more so. Getting addresses of Section 8 holders is difficult, because the departments want to protect the residents’ privacy. Betts, however, helps the city track where the former residents of public housing have moved. Over time, she and Janikowski realized that they were doing their fieldwork in the same neighborhoods.

About six months ago, they decided to put a hunch to the test. Janikowski merged his computer map of crime patterns with Betts’s map of Section8 rentals. Where Janikowski saw a bunny rabbit, Betts saw a sideways horseshoe (“He has a better imagination,” she said). Otherwise, the match was near-perfect. On the merged map, dense violent-crime areas are shaded dark blue, and Section8 addresses are represented by little red dots. All of the dark-blue areas are covered in little red dots, like bursts of gunfire. The rest of the city has almost no dots.

Betts remembers her discomfort as she looked at the map. The couple had been musing about the connection for months, but they were amazed—and deflated—to see how perfectly the two data sets fit together. She knew right away that this would be a “hard thing to say or write.” Nobody in the antipoverty community and nobody in city leadership was going to welcome the news that the noble experiment that they’d been engaged in for the past decade had been bringing the city down, in ways they’d never expected. But the connection was too obvious to ignore, and Betts and Janikowski figured that the same thing must be happening all around the country. Eventually, they thought, they’d find other researchers who connected the dots the way they had, and then maybe they could get city leaders, and even national leaders, to listen.

Regarding the bolded text, where those projects used to sit it's common to see nice, new developments.

(03-29-2023 08:21 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-28-2023 01:18 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  The majority opinion on Heller says specifically it isn’t a default ban on all gun control, and a wide range of gun control laws remain presumptively lawful including laws that (1) prohibit carrying concealed weapons, (2) prohibit gun possession by felons or the mentally retarded, (3) prohibit carrying firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, (4) impose “conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms,” (5) prohibit “dangerous and unusual weapons,” and (6) regulate firearm storage to prevent accidents.

I'm very interested in the bolded part of your post as I cannot find it in the majority opinion as filed. I can find items 1-5 (though not number and in that order) in a single paragraph on page 54. The following pages go on to list common restrictions that the court had not issue with, but "regulate firearm storage and to prevent accidents" is not one I can find in the text of the opinion. Can you share your source?

When Scalia discuss Breyer's dissenting opinion :

"Nothing about those fire-safety laws undermines our analysis; they do not remotely burden the right of self-defense as much as an absolute ban on handguns. Nor, correspondingly, does our analysis suggest the invalidity of laws regulating the storage of firearms to prevent accidents"

Scalia is judging storage laws based on the burden that they place on self defense. Having to have a gun unloaded with a trigger lock makes it useless for self defense, having a gun loaded in a steel quick access safe that is cabled to a wall stud prevents accidents via unauthorized access while still providing rapid access that doesn't burden self defense.