(01-22-2023 02:37 PM)High Country Student Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 02:08 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 02:03 PM)High Country Student Wrote:  Very hypothetical here but we have three teams with 4 losses. Assuming one of those teams won out and then lost a game in the conference tournament, I’d assume we may get two teams in the with a team that didn’t win the tournament only having 5 losses. Could any of those three teams still make it without winning the tournament if they suffer another regular season loss? Two more regular season losses? What is that threshold? UNT had 7 last year and didn’t make it so I’d imagine the answer is either one more regular season loss or none. Thoughts?

No, not this year.

Southern Miss does have the best resume, but even then unlikely.

So a 29-5 Marshall, Southern Miss or UL team that lose the tournament championship game doesn’t make the NCAA tournament?

Maybe USM because we have a quad 1 win if we are lucky maybe 2 because 1 more team is close. But, the others no. The NCAA has stated you need to have both quality (aka) quad 1 wins and a high NET.

(01-22-2023 02:37 PM)High Country Student Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 02:08 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 02:03 PM)High Country Student Wrote:  Very hypothetical here but we have three teams with 4 losses. Assuming one of those teams won out and then lost a game in the conference tournament, I’d assume we may get two teams in the with a team that didn’t win the tournament only having 5 losses. Could any of those three teams still make it without winning the tournament if they suffer another regular season loss? Two more regular season losses? What is that threshold? UNT had 7 last year and didn’t make it so I’d imagine the answer is either one more regular season loss or none. Thoughts?

No, not this year.

Southern Miss does have the best resume, but even then unlikely.

So a 29-5 Marshall, Southern Miss or UL team that lose the tournament championship game doesn’t make the NCAA tournament?

I doubt it. I think we are probably still a 1 bid league in that case. The SBC doesn't have enough skins on the wall yet to get multiple bids right now. Hopefully over the next few years that will develop. Would also help that if we get someone in they make a good run. Maybe 2 straight years of having a "Cinderella" team in the tourney. Also yes, good showings in the NIT would help.

Southern Miss
Marshall
Louisiana
Troy or JMU

(01-22-2023 12:48 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 12:18 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  Still far too much basketball to be played for me to predict the order but I would say

Marshall
Southern no i
Troy
ULL

JMU could certainly jump up into that group as well if they can get a little better consistency.

ULM is going to falter down the stretch. It's not a question of "if" but "when". There is almost zero chance that we can keep playing 7 and have the legs to finish. My only hope is that we can do enough to stay in the top half of the conference. We've already exceeded any expectations I had for this season so I'll try not to lose my **** as the season turns south. Yesterday you could tell they were wearing down when they started standing around more, throwing up bad shots, and missing rebounds. I think Keith is seeing that because the bench got more minutes yesterday than they have the entire rest of the season combined. Maybe they'll get enough rest to give Marshall a solid game on Thursday.

Let me give you some hope, Marshall doesn't run a very deep bench either, in fact I believe they said on the broadcast yesterday we currently have the number one two and three minutes logged players in the entire conference.

It is feasibly possible to run 7 deep if they can stay healthy, one of the reasons we faltered some yesterday was our center Handlogten is still recovering from the flu.... Yet still played limited minutes.

It seemed like #'s 0 and 11 never left the floor. #24 was close to that against stAte.

App gets hot and sneaks in the top four.

Just kidding we all know this team goes .500 in the conference and then upsets 1 or 2 teams in the tournament ensuring the SBC rep is 2-3 seeds lower than we'd like, it's just what we do.

(01-22-2023 02:08 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 02:03 PM)High Country Student Wrote:  Very hypothetical here but we have three teams with 4 losses. Assuming one of those teams won out and then lost a game in the conference tournament, I’d assume we may get two teams in the with a team that didn’t win the tournament only having 5 losses. Could any of those three teams still make it without winning the tournament if they suffer another regular season loss? Two more regular season losses? What is that threshold? UNT had 7 last year and didn’t make it so I’d imagine the answer is either one more regular season loss or none. Thoughts?

No, not this year.

Southern Miss does have the best resume, but even then unlikely.

the Vandy win at GA helped a bit ... like I've been saying all along, it's now down to the top three to go a run and lose the tourney final to have a shot at an at-large...

w/o bias, I give the edge to you guys based on how you can run the floor with size ... again, it's a big "if"...

as a fan of any version of success, I simply say, "good luck!"

(01-22-2023 03:22 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  App gets hot and sneaks in the top four.

Just kidding we all know this team goes .500 in the conference and then upsets 1 or 2 teams in the tournament ensuring the SBC rep is 2-3 seeds lower than we'd like, it's just what we do.

I'll be honest ... I hope we don't see you guys again...

however, I always had the hoTTTs for marsha ...

This really isn't difficult.

KP:
73 Marshall
89 JMU
115 USM
116 UL

133 Troy

BT:
68 Marshall
88 USM
109 JMU
120 UL

130 Troy

(01-22-2023 02:37 PM)High Country Student Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 02:08 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 02:03 PM)High Country Student Wrote:  Very hypothetical here but we have three teams with 4 losses. Assuming one of those teams won out and then lost a game in the conference tournament, I’d assume we may get two teams in the with a team that didn’t win the tournament only having 5 losses. Could any of those three teams still make it without winning the tournament if they suffer another regular season loss? Two more regular season losses? What is that threshold? UNT had 7 last year and didn’t make it so I’d imagine the answer is either one more regular season loss or none. Thoughts?

No, not this year.

Southern Miss does have the best resume, but even then unlikely.

So a 29-5 Marshall, Southern Miss or UL team that lose the tournament championship game doesn’t make the NCAA tournament?

Correct. Keep in mind, Marshall and Southern Miss have seen this play out before. In 2018, CUSA had a bonkers top of the league which saw several top 30 RPI teams get left out of the NCAA tournament.

MTSU had an RPI near the top 25, lost the first game of the conference tournament as the #1 seed and got left out. keep in mind, that was essentially the same team which one year prior beat second seed Michigan State in the NCAA tournament, and that still didn't matter.

WKU made it to the CUSA championship, losing to Marshall and also got left out.

(01-22-2023 03:48 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 02:37 PM)High Country Student Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 02:08 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 02:03 PM)High Country Student Wrote:  Very hypothetical here but we have three teams with 4 losses. Assuming one of those teams won out and then lost a game in the conference tournament, I’d assume we may get two teams in the with a team that didn’t win the tournament only having 5 losses. Could any of those three teams still make it without winning the tournament if they suffer another regular season loss? Two more regular season losses? What is that threshold? UNT had 7 last year and didn’t make it so I’d imagine the answer is either one more regular season loss or none. Thoughts?

No, not this year.

Southern Miss does have the best resume, but even then unlikely.

So a 29-5 Marshall, Southern Miss or UL team that lose the tournament championship game doesn’t make the NCAA tournament?

Correct. Keep in mind, Marshall and Southern Miss have seen this play out before. In 2018, CUSA had a bonkers top of the league which saw several top 30 RPI teams get left out of the NCAA tournament.

MTSU had an RPI near the top 25, lost the first game of the conference tournament as the #1 seed and got left out. keep in mind, that was essentially the same team which one year prior beat second seed Michigan State in the NCAA tournament, and that still didn't matter.

WKU made it to the CUSA championship, losing to Marshall and also got left out.

Middle Tennesse had the unfortunate luck of being 1-4 against the top 25% of teams in RPI. Which goes back the fact that you need to both have high rpi and high rpi wins. Same thing in NET. You need a high NET and multiple quad 1 wins.

I still think CUSA should have been a multi bid league that year though.

(01-22-2023 04:17 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 03:48 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 02:37 PM)High Country Student Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 02:08 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 02:03 PM)High Country Student Wrote:  Very hypothetical here but we have three teams with 4 losses. Assuming one of those teams won out and then lost a game in the conference tournament, I’d assume we may get two teams in the with a team that didn’t win the tournament only having 5 losses. Could any of those three teams still make it without winning the tournament if they suffer another regular season loss? Two more regular season losses? What is that threshold? UNT had 7 last year and didn’t make it so I’d imagine the answer is either one more regular season loss or none. Thoughts?

No, not this year.

Southern Miss does have the best resume, but even then unlikely.

So a 29-5 Marshall, Southern Miss or UL team that lose the tournament championship game doesn’t make the NCAA tournament?

Correct. Keep in mind, Marshall and Southern Miss have seen this play out before. In 2018, CUSA had a bonkers top of the league which saw several top 30 RPI teams get left out of the NCAA tournament.

MTSU had an RPI near the top 25, lost the first game of the conference tournament as the #1 seed and got left out. keep in mind, that was essentially the same team which one year prior beat second seed Michigan State in the NCAA tournament, and that still didn't matter.

WKU made it to the CUSA championship, losing to Marshall and also got left out.

Middle Tennesse had the unfortunate luck of being 1-4 against the top 25% of teams in RPI. Which goes back the fact that you need to both have high rpi and high rpi wins. Same thing in NET. You need a high NET and multiple quad 1 wins.

I still think CUSA should have been a multi bid league that year though.

yeah, that was a major arse rearming ... just like ODU's shun in baseball last year...

(01-22-2023 02:50 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 02:37 PM)High Country Student Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 02:08 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 02:03 PM)High Country Student Wrote:  Very hypothetical here but we have three teams with 4 losses. Assuming one of those teams won out and then lost a game in the conference tournament, I’d assume we may get two teams in the with a team that didn’t win the tournament only having 5 losses. Could any of those three teams still make it without winning the tournament if they suffer another regular season loss? Two more regular season losses? What is that threshold? UNT had 7 last year and didn’t make it so I’d imagine the answer is either one more regular season loss or none. Thoughts?

No, not this year.

Southern Miss does have the best resume, but even then unlikely.

So a 29-5 Marshall, Southern Miss or UL team that lose the tournament championship game doesn’t make the NCAA tournament?

I doubt it. I think we are probably still a 1 bid league in that case. The SBC doesn't have enough skins on the wall yet to get multiple bids right now. Hopefully over the next few years that will develop. Would also help that if we get someone in they make a good run. Maybe 2 straight years of having a "Cinderella" team in the tourney. Also yes, good showings in the NIT would help.

Agreed the winner of the conference tournament will be the only team going to the big dance.

You need to mark the thread as a men's program discussion if that's all you want discussed.

Women:

1. James Madison - top women's team and I like their schedule the rest of the way.
2. Southern Mississippi - already beaten Troy and winnable schedule the rest of the way.
3. Troy - road games at Texas State, Louisiana and Southern Mississippi will make it tough to stay in the top 3, but rest of the schedule should keep them top 4.
4. 4 way tie for 4th right now. I like Old Dominion to come out of that pack.

Men:

3 teams at 6-2, 3 teams at 5-3. These are your top contenders, at the moment.

1. Louisiana - Cajuns have the easiest road to the title...7 home games, 4 against title contenders
2. Southern Mississippi - 5 home, 5 road, 3 contenders at home, 1 road.
3. Marshall - Herd play the 3rd place teams at home and have only 1 road against a contender.

With the schedules these teams have, it will be difficult for them to mess this up. They should be in the top 4.

4. Troy, Georgia Southern and ULM are the 5-3 teams. Georgia Southern has no home games against contenders and are playing the top 3 teams on the road. Goodbye. ULM has Troy at home and the top 3 on the road. Goodbye. Troy has 2 home, 3 road against contenders. I like their chances of getting in the top 4, but there is a good chance they may be caught by a 4-4 team, James Madison most likely. For the moment, I'll side with Troy for top 4.

(01-22-2023 09:27 PM)lcitsh Wrote:  You need to mark the thread as a men's program discussion if that's all you want discussed.

Women:

1. James Madison - top women's team and I like their schedule the rest of the way.
2. Southern Mississippi - already beaten Troy and winnable schedule the rest of the way.
3. Troy - road games at Texas State, Louisiana and Southern Mississippi will make it tough to stay in the top 3, but rest of the schedule should keep them top 4.
4. 4 way tie for 4th right now. I like Old Dominion to come out of that pack.

Men:

3 teams at 6-2, 3 teams at 5-3. These are your top contenders, at the moment.

1. Louisiana - Cajuns have the easiest road to the title...7 home games, 4 against title contenders
2. Southern Mississippi - 5 home, 5 road, 3 contenders at home, 1 road.
3. Marshall - Herd play the 3rd place teams at home and have only 1 road against a contender.

With the schedules these teams have, it will be difficult for them to mess this up. They should be in the top 4.

4. Troy, Georgia Southern and ULM are the 5-3 teams. Georgia Southern has no home games against contenders and are playing the top 3 teams on the road. Goodbye. ULM has Troy at home and the top 3 on the road. Goodbye. Troy has 2 home, 3 road against contenders. I like their chances of getting in the top 4, but there is a good chance they may be caught by a 4-4 team, James Madison most likely. For the moment, I'll side with Troy for top 4.

Never underestimate coach Rigbys Troy teams. It’s a rebuilding year but she’s snuck in another SBC title under rebuilding years before. 5 time sbc champ will bite you in the butt if you over look them.

No offense… we all know it means men’s basketball unless the title of the thread specifies “Womens basketball”.

No offense, but I'm not changing the thread, when we're talking about basketball it's men's basketball, unless otherwise noted as women's basketball.

Sorry that offends some, that's just the way it is.

(01-22-2023 11:49 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  No offense… we all know it means men’s basketball unless the title of the thread specifies “Womens basketball”.

Same feels.

(01-22-2023 09:27 PM)lcitsh Wrote:  You need to mark the thread as a men's program discussion if that's all you want discussed.

Women:

1. James Madison - top women's team and I like their schedule the rest of the way.
2. Southern Mississippi - already beaten Troy and winnable schedule the rest of the way.
3. Troy - road games at Texas State, Louisiana and Southern Mississippi will make it tough to stay in the top 3, but rest of the schedule should keep them top 4.
4. 4 way tie for 4th right now. I like Old Dominion to come out of that pack.

Men:

3 teams at 6-2, 3 teams at 5-3. These are your top contenders, at the moment.

1. Louisiana - Cajuns have the easiest road to the title...7 home games, 4 against title contenders
2. Southern Mississippi - 5 home, 5 road, 3 contenders at home, 1 road.
3. Marshall - Herd play the 3rd place teams at home and have only 1 road against a contender.

With the schedules these teams have, it will be difficult for them to mess this up. They should be in the top 4.

4. Troy, Georgia Southern and ULM are the 5-3 teams. Georgia Southern has no home games against contenders and are playing the top 3 teams on the road. Goodbye. ULM has Troy at home and the top 3 on the road. Goodbye. Troy has 2 home, 3 road against contenders. I like their chances of getting in the top 4, but there is a good chance they may be caught by a 4-4 team, James Madison most likely. For the moment, I'll side with Troy for top 4.

This.

Going to come down to the gritty road tests to decide this years winner. What more could we want as a conference?

(01-23-2023 09:32 AM)KellyGreenAlumni Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 09:27 PM)lcitsh Wrote:  You need to mark the thread as a men's program discussion if that's all you want discussed.

Women:

1. James Madison - top women's team and I like their schedule the rest of the way.
2. Southern Mississippi - already beaten Troy and winnable schedule the rest of the way.
3. Troy - road games at Texas State, Louisiana and Southern Mississippi will make it tough to stay in the top 3, but rest of the schedule should keep them top 4.
4. 4 way tie for 4th right now. I like Old Dominion to come out of that pack.

Men:

3 teams at 6-2, 3 teams at 5-3. These are your top contenders, at the moment.

1. Louisiana - Cajuns have the easiest road to the title...7 home games, 4 against title contenders
2. Southern Mississippi - 5 home, 5 road, 3 contenders at home, 1 road.
3. Marshall - Herd play the 3rd place teams at home and have only 1 road against a contender.

With the schedules these teams have, it will be difficult for them to mess this up. They should be in the top 4.

4. Troy, Georgia Southern and ULM are the 5-3 teams. Georgia Southern has no home games against contenders and are playing the top 3 teams on the road. Goodbye. ULM has Troy at home and the top 3 on the road. Goodbye. Troy has 2 home, 3 road against contenders. I like their chances of getting in the top 4, but there is a good chance they may be caught by a 4-4 team, James Madison most likely. For the moment, I'll side with Troy for top 4.

This.

Going to come down to the gritty road tests to decide this years winner. What more could we want as a conference?

Yep! I like the fact that we will be facing most of the crucial games down the stretch @the Cajun Dome. I also like that we are seen as the under dogs by most of you….will make the W’s that much sweeter!

(01-23-2023 10:31 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(01-23-2023 09:32 AM)KellyGreenAlumni Wrote:  

(01-22-2023 09:27 PM)lcitsh Wrote:  You need to mark the thread as a men's program discussion if that's all you want discussed.

Women:

1. James Madison - top women's team and I like their schedule the rest of the way.
2. Southern Mississippi - already beaten Troy and winnable schedule the rest of the way.
3. Troy - road games at Texas State, Louisiana and Southern Mississippi will make it tough to stay in the top 3, but rest of the schedule should keep them top 4.
4. 4 way tie for 4th right now. I like Old Dominion to come out of that pack.

Men:

3 teams at 6-2, 3 teams at 5-3. These are your top contenders, at the moment.

1. Louisiana - Cajuns have the easiest road to the title...7 home games, 4 against title contenders
2. Southern Mississippi - 5 home, 5 road, 3 contenders at home, 1 road.
3. Marshall - Herd play the 3rd place teams at home and have only 1 road against a contender.

With the schedules these teams have, it will be difficult for them to mess this up. They should be in the top 4.

4. Troy, Georgia Southern and ULM are the 5-3 teams. Georgia Southern has no home games against contenders and are playing the top 3 teams on the road. Goodbye. ULM has Troy at home and the top 3 on the road. Goodbye. Troy has 2 home, 3 road against contenders. I like their chances of getting in the top 4, but there is a good chance they may be caught by a 4-4 team, James Madison most likely. For the moment, I'll side with Troy for top 4.

This.

Going to come down to the gritty road tests to decide this years winner. What more could we want as a conference?

Yep! I like the fact that we will be facing most of the crucial games down the stretch @the Cajun Dome. I also like that we are seen as the under dogs by most of you….will make the W’s that much sweeter!

I guarantee we do not look at Louisiana as an underdog by any means.

Most Marshall fans are very rational, I know we will be underdogs in our matchup and it will be a tough road game to pick up a win.

Looking ahead, I was really hoping our game could be picked up by ESPN2, but I think because it's a Saturday night at 7pm CST, 8pm EST, might be more difficult, if it were on a Thursday night for sure I think we would get that national coverage, but make no mistake that is definitely circled on the schedule.