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RE: Jonathan Lawson
(12-21-2022 03:31 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(12-18-2022 03:58 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  He would be starting on this team for me. Yes he has to learn to play defense better, more importantly team defense. He needs to be on the floor learning from mistakes. We are going into the soft part of our schedule, if it were me, J Law would be getting around 25-30 minutes, developing into a good player for the tournament.

So J. Lawson would be starting on this team for you? I thought you said not long ago in another thread that you don't think he's ready to be a starter. Consistently inconsistent as usual. Par for the course with you.

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(12-20-2022 10:11 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  I agree J Lawson isnt ready to be a starter. My point is... if we are going to do anything in the tournament, he needs to be ready to be a starter. While Alo does make big plays (especially on defense) he also makes the dumbest, most boneheaded plays you will ever see on a basketball court, almost immediately after making that great play. It isnt clear cut. He does something great followed by something unbelievably bad. If he makes a shot, next time down the court, he won't even look left or right, he is going straight for the basket and then take some stupid type of falling down, leaping to the left, eyes closed, with 5 defenders on him, type of shot that usually ends up hitting the bottom of the basket. I have never seen another player like him in that regard.

Oh so you have a reading comprehension problem... yes I said he isnt ready to be a starter but we need him ready to be a starter by tournament time and the only way that will happen is through development....IN THE EXACT POST YOU QUOTED


DURING THE WEAK PART OF THE SCHEDULE


In the very same place I said he isnt ready to be a starter.


Read and comprehend. It takes both.


Par for the course for you.
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12-21-2022 03:46 PM
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(12-21-2022 03:46 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(12-21-2022 03:31 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(12-18-2022 03:58 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  He would be starting on this team for me. Yes he has to learn to play defense better, more importantly team defense. He needs to be on the floor learning from mistakes. We are going into the soft part of our schedule, if it were me, J Law would be getting around 25-30 minutes, developing into a good player for the tournament.

So J. Lawson would be starting on this team for you? I thought you said not long ago in another thread that you don't think he's ready to be a starter. Consistently inconsistent as usual. Par for the course with you.

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(12-20-2022 10:11 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  I agree J Lawson isnt ready to be a starter. My point is... if we are going to do anything in the tournament, he needs to be ready to be a starter. While Alo does make big plays (especially on defense) he also makes the dumbest, most boneheaded plays you will ever see on a basketball court, almost immediately after making that great play. It isnt clear cut. He does something great followed by something unbelievably bad. If he makes a shot, next time down the court, he won't even look left or right, he is going straight for the basket and then take some stupid type of falling down, leaping to the left, eyes closed, with 5 defenders on him, type of shot that usually ends up hitting the bottom of the basket. I have never seen another player like him in that regard.

Oh so you have a reading comprehension problem... yes I said he isnt ready to be a starter but we need him ready to be a starter by tournament time and the only way that will happen is through development....IN THE EXACT POST YOU QUOTED


DURING THE WEAK PART OF THE SCHEDULE


In the very same place I said he isnt ready to be a starter.


Read and comprehend. It takes both.


Par for the course for you.

Nice try. Bottom line is he isn't ready to be a starter, and your lack of consistency is amusing. He should be getting more minutes, though. Nothing like game experience to build a player up.
12-21-2022 03:54 PM
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RE: Jonathan Lawson
(12-21-2022 03:20 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(12-21-2022 02:58 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(12-18-2022 03:58 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  He would be starting on this team for me. Yes he has to learn to play defense better, more importantly team defense. He needs to be on the floor learning from mistakes. We are going into the soft part of our schedule, if it were me, J Law would be getting around 25-30 minutes, developing into a good player for the tournament.

Understand he has had 2 good shooting games but he's pretty weak on D & I'd imagine that is what limits his PT. But with our crew having such poor perimeter shooting, he does need to get minutes.

I do understand all that. Once again what I am saying... we know what we get from pretty much every other player and to be frank, the players we have been using will get us to the tournament and maybe one win. If we want to get more than one win, we need someone to step up their game. For that to happen, they need playing time. Going into this part of the schedule, we have plenty of games to give playing time to J Lawson without losing a game because of it.

We can rely on KD and Williams to score, that is good, but having that 3rd option opens up so much more, especially the inside. Kao needs those minutes as well.

We went toe-to-toe with a top 10 team on their home floor with J-Law playing zero minutes, and Damaria just becoming eligible.
I agree that J-Law is a work in progress with a high ceiling at the moment, and we can expect to see his playing time increasing.
But to say we can't win big games without him is a bit of a stretch.
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RE: Jonathan Lawson
(12-21-2022 04:51 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(12-21-2022 03:20 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(12-21-2022 02:58 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(12-18-2022 03:58 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  He would be starting on this team for me. Yes he has to learn to play defense better, more importantly team defense. He needs to be on the floor learning from mistakes. We are going into the soft part of our schedule, if it were me, J Law would be getting around 25-30 minutes, developing into a good player for the tournament.

Understand he has had 2 good shooting games but he's pretty weak on D & I'd imagine that is what limits his PT. But with our crew having such poor perimeter shooting, he does need to get minutes.

I do understand all that. Once again what I am saying... we know what we get from pretty much every other player and to be frank, the players we have been using will get us to the tournament and maybe one win. If we want to get more than one win, we need someone to step up their game. For that to happen, they need playing time. Going into this part of the schedule, we have plenty of games to give playing time to J Lawson without losing a game because of it.

We can rely on KD and Williams to score, that is good, but having that 3rd option opens up so much more, especially the inside. Kao needs those minutes as well.

We went toe-to-toe with a top 10 team on their home floor with J-Law playing zero minutes.
I agree that J-Law is a work in progress with a high ceiling at the moment, and we can expect to see his playing time increasing.
But to say we can't win big games without him is a bit of a stretch.

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(12-21-2022 11:00 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  KJ literally gave the double-birds to Memphis.

Tubby Smith is the city of Memphis?
12-22-2022 07:52 AM
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RE: Jonathan Lawson
(12-22-2022 07:52 AM)Psicosis Wrote:  
(12-21-2022 11:00 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  KJ literally gave the double-birds to Memphis.

Tubby Smith is the city of Memphis?

Nah, that was a different video. I left that one off. The one I'm talking about here is the one where Memphis was named - not Tubby.
12-22-2022 05:18 PM
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RE: Jonathan Lawson
Jonathan is playing really well. He should’ve gotten more minutes earlier in the season. The catch-22 criticism with him is he doesn’t have enough experience — but he can’t get experience without having more experience

Would Penny be playing Jonathan and Kao as much without being required to due injuries? Or would he still be going with his guys?
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(12-22-2022 05:22 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  Jonathan is playing really well. He should’ve gotten more minutes earlier in the season. The catch-22 criticism with him is he doesn’t have enough experience — but he can’t get experience without having more experience

Would Penny be playing Jonathan and Kao as much without being required to due injuries? Or would he still be going with his guys?

I get the feeling that Kao is earning his spot with every passing day. J. Lawson is looking better, but he still needs work and it would help if he would improve his awareness and build a bit more strength.
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I like what I'm seeing from J. Lawson. Looking at his deficiencies his game might need to be modeled more like a Mike Miller/Kyle Korver. In other words don't get caught up on him being a solid defender and just let him shoot.
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Hopefully with some mileage under his belt this season, he will develop into just what this team needs come March. Having a guard with that height and a strong outside shot will undoubtedly give us an edge that we currently lack.
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(12-22-2022 05:22 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  Jonathan is playing really well. He should’ve gotten more minutes earlier in the season. The catch-22 criticism with him is he doesn’t have enough experience — but he can’t get experience without having more experience

Would Penny be playing Jonathan and Kao as much without being required to due injuries? Or would he still be going with his guys?

I do not think the lack of playing time is due to "inexperience" but rather due to lack of defensive ability.
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(12-23-2022 09:16 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(12-22-2022 05:22 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  Jonathan is playing really well. He should’ve gotten more minutes earlier in the season. The catch-22 criticism with him is he doesn’t have enough experience — but he can’t get experience without having more experience

Would Penny be playing Jonathan and Kao as much without being required to due injuries? Or would he still be going with his guys?

I do think the lack of playing time is due to "inexperience" but rather due to lack of defensive ability.

Much better for J Lawson to be eased in rather than relied upon as a starter. I'm really starting to like his game.
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RE: Jonathan Lawson
(12-23-2022 09:18 AM)holyterror Wrote:  
(12-23-2022 09:16 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(12-22-2022 05:22 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  Jonathan is playing really well. He should’ve gotten more minutes earlier in the season. The catch-22 criticism with him is he doesn’t have enough experience — but he can’t get experience without having more experience

Would Penny be playing Jonathan and Kao as much without being required to due injuries? Or would he still be going with his guys?

I do think the lack of playing time is due to "inexperience" but rather due to lack of defensive ability.

Much better for J Lawson to be eased in rather than relied upon as a starter. I'm really starting to like his game.

What I have been saying is that while we are playing "scrimmage" games against the dredges, he should be getting as much playing time as possible. If we were playing Houston or even UCF, it would be a different story. We are not, we are playing the easy teams and this is the time to take full advantage and give him playing time. Practice only goes so far, at some point you have to get in the games and play through mistakes to develop.

I feel the same way about Kao. As far as I am concerned Kao already deserves the start over Dandridge or C Lawson. Kao's ceiling is so much higher. Getting him into a good groove and getting our guards in the frame of mind to be looking for the easy pass for a dunk is important for later down the road.
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RE: Jonathan Lawson
So far in this thread I have learned that Penny is underplaying Jonathan Lawson and Penny is starting Chandler Lawson when he should be a backup— maybe Penny has a grudge against the Lawsons but he is cleverly disguising it by starting Chandler Lawson over Kai?
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This NIL stuff is out of control. I saw Jonathan Lawson selling a $9.95 life insurance plan for Colonial Penn.
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(12-24-2022 03:07 PM)holyterror Wrote:  This NIL stuff is out of control. I saw Jonathan Lawson selling a $9.95 life insurance plan for Colonial Penn.

Colonial Penn looking at a younger demographic?
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(12-24-2022 03:07 PM)holyterror Wrote:  This NIL stuff is out of control. I saw Jonathan Lawson selling a $9.95 life insurance plan for Colonial Penn.

Yeah, any amount above $7.95 for life insurance is outrageous. Outrageous, I’m telling’ ya’!
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(12-21-2022 09:47 AM)bbriggins Wrote:  
(12-19-2022 09:55 AM)msu35 Wrote:  
(12-19-2022 09:43 AM)passat25 Wrote:  
(12-19-2022 09:05 AM)holyterror Wrote:  
(12-18-2022 07:56 PM)passat25 Wrote:  The younger Lawson needs to keep getting bigger and stronger.. but he has made a lot of progress since last year.

Whatever happened to Granja from Spain??? Was he redshirted???

I heard Penny say (a few weeks ago) that Granja showed up with an undisclosed, chronic back injury. as of then, there was no timeline for The Spaniard to play.

Wow.. so the kid won't play this season LOL.. he probably won't be here next year.

If he's being redshirted for an actual injury, why would he leave after this season?

I have heard (unofficially) that he is likely to be redshirted, not so much that he will have 4 more years here, but he will still maintain 4 years of eligibility wherever he goes. There is also a chance he goes back to Europe.

I guess Granja being redshirted was thrown out of the window.. Penny decided to play him against Bama St..

The kid showed some potential.. He looks like he is a good blocker.. wanted to try too much but I guess he was anxious to prove himself.. He needs to get bigger and adjust to the speed of college basketball here.
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RE: Jonathan Lawson
(12-23-2022 09:56 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(12-23-2022 09:18 AM)holyterror Wrote:  
(12-23-2022 09:16 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(12-22-2022 05:22 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  Jonathan is playing really well. He should’ve gotten more minutes earlier in the season. The catch-22 criticism with him is he doesn’t have enough experience — but he can’t get experience without having more experience

Would Penny be playing Jonathan and Kao as much without being required to due injuries? Or would he still be going with his guys?

I do think the lack of playing time is due to "inexperience" but rather due to lack of defensive ability.

Much better for J Lawson to be eased in rather than relied upon as a starter. I'm really starting to like his game.

What I have been saying is that while we are playing "scrimmage" games against the dredges, he should be getting as much playing time as possible. If we were playing Houston or even UCF, it would be a different story. We are not, we are playing the easy teams and this is the time to take full advantage and give him playing time. Practice only goes so far, at some point you have to get in the games and play through mistakes to develop.

I feel the same way about Kao. As far as I am concerned Kao already deserves the start over Dandridge or C Lawson. Kao's ceiling is so much higher. Getting him into a good groove and getting our guards in the frame of mind to be looking for the easy pass for a dunk is important for later down the road.

Kao may well turn out to be the missing link this year, KD notwithstanding. Someone said the he is working with Dorsey, that should help him out a lot.
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(12-22-2022 05:54 PM)Alanda Wrote:  I like what I'm seeing from J. Lawson. Looking at his deficiencies his game might need to be modeled more like a Mike Miller/Kyle Korver. In other words don't get caught up on him being a solid defender and just let him shoot.

I know this sounds crazy, but the kid remids me alot of a unselfish Emoni Bates, JLaw he actually looks for his teammates.
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