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RE: America is too far gone to save
(11-14-2022 05:21 PM)fsquid Wrote: Will we still have college football?
Football participation in the downward trend.
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RE: America is too far gone to save
(11-14-2022 05:25 PM)Bronco14 Wrote: (11-14-2022 05:21 PM)fsquid Wrote: Will we still have college football?
Probably. The Liberal Elite control it.
sweet, you guys carry on.
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RE: America is too far gone to save
(11-14-2022 05:20 PM)Bronco14 Wrote: (11-14-2022 03:30 PM)Gamenole Wrote: (11-14-2022 02:22 PM)SUisBigEast4ever Wrote: I don't know what Republicans can do to stop that. Thank god some republicans are banning CRT etc. but even then it will be hammered into them elsewhere. Parents need to have deep talks with their kids that white people are the ones being discriminated against these days and that it will only get worse with Democrats in power.
That's as absurd as the Christian persecution in the US complex that it often goes hand in hand with. Losing ones historical ability to dominate other groups in favor of a more level playing field for all is not discrimination.
Yeah, he s/h called it affirmative action in his post. Then it's fine.
Bronco I totally understand why you would say that given my positions on most issues, but affirmative action is one of the few where I'm firmly on your side. It is one of the only things I look forward to seeing this iteration of the Supreme Court rule upon, and hopefully put an end to. The way to address historical discrimination is NOT via state run discrimination in the present. I believe the most significant progress against racism, misogyny, homophobia, etc. will only be made when the laws are race/gender/etc. neutral and discrimination for or against is outlawed.
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RE: America is too far gone to save
(11-14-2022 03:25 PM)miko33 Wrote: (11-14-2022 02:22 PM)Kruciff Wrote: (11-14-2022 01:27 PM)miko33 Wrote: (11-14-2022 11:31 AM)Kruciff Wrote: (11-14-2022 10:42 AM)miko33 Wrote: How is it looking brighter?
Trump appears to be fading into the rear view mirror, for starters.
There are all sorts of politicians that are unpopular. I think Pelosi, Schumer and Biden are cancers to this country yet they are still in their elected positions. So how is that making the future brighter?
1. Bit disingenuous to call Trump simply "unpopular"
2. Democrats elected to pass democratic legislation is popular among the left. Why should I play your both sides game when we have a very different view of current events? Half this board doesn't even believe in climate change.
Explain point 1 to me.
I can't, because you believe everything right wing media tells you. You somehow believe that these milquetoast toothless Democrats are the evil Boogeymen of the left so therefore that makes them the same as Trump, and therefore just "unpopular" as you mildly put it. Trump is under investigation for crimes never before committed by a former president. If the accusations are true, he will be thrown in prison as a traitor. Fling all the conspiraciea and what ifs you want against the three you mentioned, but none of them come close to Trump. You are being disingenuous.
Regarding climate change, you ignore the huge elephants in the room (China and India) who are NOT curbing their emmissions like us and western Europe. I thought you were a STEM major so I'm sure you understand that you have to change the variables that make the biggest impact if you want to see significant changes over time.
What difference does it make what China and India do with regards to climate change? What, we should just ignore the catastrophic warming of our planet because it's not entirely our fault? Or are you saying Americans are incapable of handling both tasks? And yet, somehow all your words still don't justify why, in the year 2022, half of y'all don't believe in anthropogenic climate change, despite overwhelming evidence. How is anyone expected to deal with such irrationality seriously? Why should I care what you guys want for this country if you can't even agree on climate change?
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RE: America is too far gone to save
(11-14-2022 06:15 PM)Kruciff Wrote: (11-14-2022 03:25 PM)miko33 Wrote: (11-14-2022 02:22 PM)Kruciff Wrote: (11-14-2022 01:27 PM)miko33 Wrote: (11-14-2022 11:31 AM)Kruciff Wrote: Trump appears to be fading into the rear view mirror, for starters.
There are all sorts of politicians that are unpopular. I think Pelosi, Schumer and Biden are cancers to this country yet they are still in their elected positions. So how is that making the future brighter?
1. Bit disingenuous to call Trump simply "unpopular"
2. Democrats elected to pass democratic legislation is popular among the left. Why should I play your both sides game when we have a very different view of current events? Half this board doesn't even believe in climate change.
Explain point 1 to me.
I can't, because you believe everything right wing media tells you. You somehow believe that these milquetoast toothless Democrats are the evil Boogeymen of the left so therefore that makes them the same as Trump, and therefore just "unpopular" as you mildly put it. Trump is under investigation for crimes never before committed by a former president. If the accusations are true, he will be thrown in prison as a traitor. Fling all the conspiraciea and what ifs you want against the three you mentioned, but none of them come close to Trump. You are being disingenuous.
Regarding climate change, you ignore the huge elephants in the room (China and India) who are NOT curbing their emmissions like us and western Europe. I thought you were a STEM major so I'm sure you understand that you have to change the variables that make the biggest impact if you want to see significant changes over time.
[What difference does it make what China and India do with regards to climate change? What, we should just ignore the catastrophic warming of our planet because it's not entirely our fault? Or are you saying Americans are incapable of handling both tasks? And yet, somehow all your words still don't justify why, in the year 2022, half of y'all don't believe in anthropogenic climate change, despite overwhelming evidence. How is anyone expected to deal with such irrationality seriously? Why should I care what you guys want for this country if you can't even agree on climate change?
I don't personally know a single conservative who doesn't believe humanity has some effect on the climate. You'd have to be joking or oblivious to the world around you not to accept the fact that we affect the climate.
What I do find is that most don't believe it's "catastrophic" as you say. There are plenty of scientists who do debate the degree of our affect on the environment and to what degree is CO2 affecting it as opposed to deforestation and desertification. The problem is many on the left believe radical measures are needed. Conservatives believe a balanced approach is much more logical. Destroying economies thru drastic measures leads to poverty and poverty has always had a far worse affect on the environment than prosperity.
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RE: America is too far gone to save
(11-14-2022 06:15 PM)Kruciff Wrote: (11-14-2022 03:25 PM)miko33 Wrote: (11-14-2022 02:22 PM)Kruciff Wrote: (11-14-2022 01:27 PM)miko33 Wrote: (11-14-2022 11:31 AM)Kruciff Wrote: Trump appears to be fading into the rear view mirror, for starters.
There are all sorts of politicians that are unpopular. I think Pelosi, Schumer and Biden are cancers to this country yet they are still in their elected positions. So how is that making the future brighter?
1. Bit disingenuous to call Trump simply "unpopular"
2. Democrats elected to pass democratic legislation is popular among the left. Why should I play your both sides game when we have a very different view of current events? Half this board doesn't even believe in climate change.
Explain point 1 to me.
I can't, because you believe everything right wing media tells you. You somehow believe that these milquetoast toothless Democrats are the evil Boogeymen of the left so therefore that makes them the same as Trump, and therefore just "unpopular" as you mildly put it. Trump is under investigation for crimes never before committed by a former president. If the accusations are true, he will be thrown in prison as a traitor. Fling all the conspiraciea and what ifs you want against the three you mentioned, but none of them come close to Trump. You are being disingenuous.
Regarding climate change, you ignore the huge elephants in the room (China and India) who are NOT curbing their emmissions like us and western Europe. I thought you were a STEM major so I'm sure you understand that you have to change the variables that make the biggest impact if you want to see significant changes over time.
What difference does it make what China and India do with regards to climate change? What, we should just ignore the catastrophic warming of our planet because it's not entirely our fault? Or are you saying Americans are incapable of handling both tasks? And yet, somehow all your words still don't justify why, in the year 2022, half of y'all don't believe in anthropogenic climate change, despite overwhelming evidence. How is anyone expected to deal with such irrationality seriously? Why should I care what you guys want for this country if you can't even agree on climate change?
As long as bombs are being dropped all over the globe on a daily basis, dont ask me to cut back on my heat during the winter or ac during the summer. Don't ask me to slow down on my driving, or any other thing.
Over 500k bombs have been dropped by our government in the past 25 years. No telling how many more of our bombs have been dropped by others, like Ukraine right now.. I am willing to guess well over a million bombs have been dropped world wide in the past 25 years. But then these same bomb droppers are telling me about the dangers of climate change... Just how far can I drive my car to equal the same emissions as one missle explosion?
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RE: America is too far gone to save
(11-14-2022 05:21 PM)fsquid Wrote: Will we still have college football?
Nothing more American than the AAC!
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(11-14-2022 06:28 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (11-14-2022 06:15 PM)Kruciff Wrote: (11-14-2022 03:25 PM)miko33 Wrote: (11-14-2022 02:22 PM)Kruciff Wrote: (11-14-2022 01:27 PM)miko33 Wrote: There are all sorts of politicians that are unpopular. I think Pelosi, Schumer and Biden are cancers to this country yet they are still in their elected positions. So how is that making the future brighter?
1. Bit disingenuous to call Trump simply "unpopular"
2. Democrats elected to pass democratic legislation is popular among the left. Why should I play your both sides game when we have a very different view of current events? Half this board doesn't even believe in climate change.
Explain point 1 to me.
I can't, because you believe everything right wing media tells you. You somehow believe that these milquetoast toothless Democrats are the evil Boogeymen of the left so therefore that makes them the same as Trump, and therefore just "unpopular" as you mildly put it. Trump is under investigation for crimes never before committed by a former president. If the accusations are true, he will be thrown in prison as a traitor. Fling all the conspiraciea and what ifs you want against the three you mentioned, but none of them come close to Trump. You are being disingenuous.
Regarding climate change, you ignore the huge elephants in the room (China and India) who are NOT curbing their emmissions like us and western Europe. I thought you were a STEM major so I'm sure you understand that you have to change the variables that make the biggest impact if you want to see significant changes over time.
What difference does it make what China and India do with regards to climate change? What, we should just ignore the catastrophic warming of our planet because it's not entirely our fault? Or are you saying Americans are incapable of handling both tasks? And yet, somehow all your words still don't justify why, in the year 2022, half of y'all don't believe in anthropogenic climate change, despite overwhelming evidence. How is anyone expected to deal with such irrationality seriously? Why should I care what you guys want for this country if you can't even agree on climate change?
As long as bombs are being dropped all over the globe on a daily basis, dont ask me to cut back on my heat during the winter or ac during the summer. Don't ask me to slow down on my driving, or any other thing.
Over 500k bombs have been dropped by our government in the past 25 years. No telling how many more of our bombs have been dropped by others, like Ukraine right now.. I am willing to guess well over a million bombs have been dropped world wide in the past 25 years. But then these same bomb droppers are telling me about the dangers of climate change... Just how far can I drive my car to equal the same emissions as one missile explosion?
THIS x infinity.
I'm still waiting on Gore-bot's postulation in his 2006 flick "An Inconvenient Truth" about the "ocean levels rising 20 feet due to the icecaps melting".
He made a chunk of $$$ from suckers who fear the climate boogeyman, LOL.
Doesn't Gore live in a house that perhaps uses a huge amount of energy? Just like Climate Czar Kerry flies his private jet to argue about climate abuse. That Horseface jack@ss dumps more toxins in the air on one of his BS trips that I have done driving my various gas guzzler(s) since 1986.
DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO.
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RE: America is too far gone to save
(11-14-2022 06:15 PM)Kruciff Wrote: (11-14-2022 03:25 PM)miko33 Wrote: (11-14-2022 02:22 PM)Kruciff Wrote: (11-14-2022 01:27 PM)miko33 Wrote: (11-14-2022 11:31 AM)Kruciff Wrote: Trump appears to be fading into the rear view mirror, for starters.
There are all sorts of politicians that are unpopular. I think Pelosi, Schumer and Biden are cancers to this country yet they are still in their elected positions. So how is that making the future brighter?
1. Bit disingenuous to call Trump simply "unpopular"
2. Democrats elected to pass democratic legislation is popular among the left. Why should I play your both sides game when we have a very different view of current events? Half this board doesn't even believe in climate change.
Explain point 1 to me.
I can't, because you believe everything right wing media tells you. You somehow believe that these milquetoast toothless Democrats are the evil Boogeymen of the left so therefore that makes them the same as Trump, and therefore just "unpopular" as you mildly put it. Trump is under investigation for crimes never before committed by a former president. If the accusations are true, he will be thrown in prison as a traitor. Fling all the conspiraciea and what ifs you want against the three you mentioned, but none of them come close to Trump. You are being disingenuous.
Regarding climate change, you ignore the huge elephants in the room (China and India) who are NOT curbing their emmissions like us and western Europe. I thought you were a STEM major so I'm sure you understand that you have to change the variables that make the biggest impact if you want to see significant changes over time.
What difference does it make what China and India do with regards to climate change? What, we should just ignore the catastrophic warming of our planet because it's not entirely our fault? Or are you saying Americans are incapable of handling both tasks? And yet, somehow all your words still don't justify why, in the year 2022, half of y'all don't believe in anthropogenic climate change, despite overwhelming evidence. How is anyone expected to deal with such irrationality seriously? Why should I care what you guys want for this country if you can't even agree on climate change?
Climate change? Sure. Human created?..to some extent. Normal cyclical event? Most likely... all combined. What bothers a lot of us is the bogus claims of imminent catastrophe that leftists have been touting for decades....One of which was a VP of the US. Just stop with the histrionics and put forth some reasonable positions that don't destroy the economy in the process. How about using some common sense and push more for Clean Air? It would accomplish the same goals. Everyone likes clean air.
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RE: America is too far gone to save
(11-14-2022 09:32 AM)CLTPirate Wrote: I will never understand why Republicans think some multi-millionaire in power want Marxism, which goes against their own interests.
Rich and powerful people don't want an ideology that strips money and power away from rich and powerful people.
Then why are there so many high profile wealthy democrats? And if you think the democrat party of today isn't marxist then I've some swamp land to sell you.
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RE: America is too far gone to save
(11-14-2022 09:51 AM)Jugnaut Wrote: (11-14-2022 09:32 AM)CLTPirate Wrote: I will never understand why Republicans think some multi-millionaire in power want Marxism, which goes against their own interests.
Rich and powerful people don't want an ideology that strips money and power away from rich and powerful people.
I think the left in power (globalists and corporations and politicians) want a Chinese style communism which is really just a leftist version of fascism with wealth and power concentrated at the top. The average street level Dem is too stupid to see what's going on and keeps voting for the people who will one day send them to a gulag.
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RE: America is too far gone to save
(11-14-2022 10:15 AM)Gamenole Wrote: (11-14-2022 09:58 AM)maximus Wrote: There should be nonstop commercials showing the data of how people are fleeing the shithole experiments of California, New York, Illinois etc etc....
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As others have said, the GOP knows nothing about winning elections. You're too caught up in petty scorekeeping and "owning the libs". So by all means keep cheering along with us about the steady export of blue voters into increasingly competitive states like Texas, when red Texas finally falls it will mean the end of GOP power on the national level.
Which will in turn herald the end of the USA as we know it. I want to be a fly on your wall when the realization hits you that what/who you support cares nothing at all for you. You apparently think that democrats are still the party of the working man. If they have their way, and if you're lucky, you can keep working to make their lives better at your own expense.
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RE: America is too far gone to save
(11-14-2022 10:18 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: (11-14-2022 10:16 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: (11-14-2022 10:15 AM)Gamenole Wrote: (11-14-2022 09:58 AM)maximus Wrote: There should be nonstop commercials showing the data of how people are fleeing the shithole experiments of California, New York, Illinois etc etc....
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As others have said, the GOP knows nothing about winning elections. You're too caught up in petty scorekeeping and "owning the libs". So by all means keep cheering along with us about the steady export of blue voters into increasingly competitive states like Texas, when red Texas finally falls it will mean the end of GOP power on the national level.
So, you are fine with a government with no restraint? Anything Goes?
Yes they are. Until it happens. The very definition of useful idiots.
And then they'll look around in bewilderment and think to themselves, wait, it wasn't supposed to be this way.
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RE: America is too far gone to save
(11-14-2022 10:36 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote: (11-14-2022 09:32 AM)CLTPirate Wrote: I will never understand why Republicans think some multi-millionaire in power want Marxism, which goes against their own interests.
Rich and powerful people don't want an ideology that strips money and power away from rich and powerful people.
Marxism protects the rich class. That's the thing that most of the left don't understand about marxism. There is always a rich and powerful elite class, but everyone else is poor and powerless.
They ignore history as if it never happened.
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RE: America is too far gone to save
(11-14-2022 12:56 PM)mlb Wrote: (11-14-2022 12:04 PM)maximus Wrote: Florida is the future of this country, how it is trending will spread.
Florida can't work for states that aren't huge tourist destinations. That is the problem with that viewpoint. Ohio can't get rid of income taxes by having super expensive hotel taxes and toll roads. Every state has to be different and will be different based on the industries that employ the people.
Not what I'm talking about.
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RE: America is too far gone to save
(11-14-2022 11:31 AM)Kruciff Wrote: (11-14-2022 10:42 AM)miko33 Wrote: (11-14-2022 10:28 AM)Kruciff Wrote: America of the 1950's will never return. If that's what you are wanting, and voting for, you would be correct.
The America of the future is looking brighter than it has in a long time.
How is it looking brighter?
Trump appears to be fading into the rear view mirror, for starters.
Seek help.
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RE: America is too far gone to save
(11-14-2022 11:46 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: (11-14-2022 11:10 AM)CLTPirate Wrote: (11-14-2022 10:36 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote: (11-14-2022 09:32 AM)CLTPirate Wrote: I will never understand why Republicans think some multi-millionaire in power want Marxism, which goes against their own interests.
Rich and powerful people don't want an ideology that strips money and power away from rich and powerful people.
Marxism protects the rich class. That's the thing that most of the left don't understand about marxism. There is always a rich and powerful elite class, but everyone else is poor and powerless.
If you look at history, this is totally untrue. Marxism pits the Bourgeoisie (ruling class) against the proletariat (working class). Saying they are at odds because the bourgeoisie owns what the workers need to produce things and that if they got rid of the bourgeoisie the proletariat would reap the benefits. As they would get to split up the sizable chunk of the pie going to the bourgeoisie
In the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, etc they went after the landlords, factory owners, the wealthy, and those in power.
Communist leaders by in large didn't come from the powerful, Mao was a farmer, Stalin grew up in poverty, Lenin grew up middle class, etc.
I'm not a Marxist but as someone on the left, I have never understood why so many conservatives think prominent Democrats are closet Marxists. Even the more radical Dems such as Bernie and AOC base their beliefs on Nordic countries not 1960s China.
You did not read what others have posted or are intentionally being obtuse. The people that lost their businesses were the upper middle class and slightly richer, the elite (like Bezos, Gates, etc) still remained elite.
He's been educated by leftists so it's understandable that everything he says came from his indoctrination.
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RE: America is too far gone to save
(11-14-2022 12:04 PM)maximus Wrote: (11-14-2022 10:15 AM)Gamenole Wrote: (11-14-2022 09:58 AM)maximus Wrote: There should be nonstop commercials showing the data of how people are fleeing the shithole experiments of California, New York, Illinois etc etc....
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As others have said, the GOP knows nothing about winning elections. You're too caught up in petty scorekeeping and "owning the libs". So by all means keep cheering along with us about the steady export of blue voters into increasingly competitive states like Texas, when red Texas finally falls it will mean the end of GOP power on the national level.
Nah schmuck I want the country to not head the direction of the shithole states I mentioned. Obviously you are hoping that will be the case.
You clowns don't understand that your platform will not fly with the majority of normal Americans, your only strategy is to harvest ballots in blue city shitholes and punish normal people in the process.
Florida is the future of this country, how it is trending will spread.
The big tent is forming itself and it doesn't include circus freaks like the left trots out.
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RE: America is too far gone to save
(11-14-2022 12:26 PM)Gamenole Wrote: (11-14-2022 12:04 PM)maximus Wrote: (11-14-2022 10:15 AM)Gamenole Wrote: (11-14-2022 09:58 AM)maximus Wrote: There should be nonstop commercials showing the data of how people are fleeing the shithole experiments of California, New York, Illinois etc etc....
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As others have said, the GOP knows nothing about winning elections. You're too caught up in petty scorekeeping and "owning the libs". So by all means keep cheering along with us about the steady export of blue voters into increasingly competitive states like Texas, when red Texas finally falls it will mean the end of GOP power on the national level.
Nah schmuck I want the country to not head the direction of the shithole states I mentioned. Obviously you are hoping that will be the case.
You clowns don't understand that your platform will not fly with the majority of normal Americans, your only strategy is to harvest ballots in blue city shitholes and punish normal people in the process.
Florida is the future of this country, how it is trending will spread.
The big tent is forming itself and it doesn't include circus freaks like the left trots out.
I do see a tent and some circus freaks, how appropriate that Florida seems to be your new seat of power since it is the traditional winter home of carnival freaks. Fortunately last Tuesday, the rest of the country declined to run away and join the circus.
And while Ringmaster Ron has demonstrated an impressive hold on the Florida electorate, we'll see how successful he is at translating that nationally. I'd be a lot more concerned if the big orange clown down south wasn't going to wage scorched earth warfare against him, and I think we can all agree he couldn't care less whether or not he burns your tent down in the process. You'll either nominate him and lose with the voters, or deny him and he'll do you far more internal damage than we ever could.
BS, straight up BS. Fully half of the people in this country are not in favor of your utopian ideals.
Youth is indeed wasted on the young.
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