(11-14-2022 10:15 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 09:58 AM)maximus Wrote:  There should be nonstop commercials showing the data of how people are fleeing the shithole experiments of California, New York, Illinois etc etc....



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As others have said, the GOP knows nothing about winning elections. You're too caught up in petty scorekeeping and "owning the libs". So by all means keep cheering along with us about the steady export of blue voters into increasingly competitive states like Texas, when red Texas finally falls it will mean the end of GOP power on the national level.

Nah schmuck I want the country to not head the direction of the shithole states I mentioned. Obviously you are hoping that will be the case.

You clowns don't understand that your platform will not fly with the majority of normal Americans, your only strategy is to harvest ballots in blue city shitholes and punish normal people in the process.

Florida is the future of this country, how it is trending will spread.

The big tent is forming itself and it doesn't include circus freaks like the left trots out.

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(11-14-2022 10:28 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  America of the 1950's will never return. If that's what you are wanting, and voting for, you would be correct.

The America of the future is looking brighter than it has in a long time.

I'm always shocked by the mental gymnastics or psychotic break with reality people have to think America's future is looking bright. Long term trends show we're a nation in decline. This election only speeds that up.

(11-14-2022 12:04 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 10:15 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 09:58 AM)maximus Wrote:  There should be nonstop commercials showing the data of how people are fleeing the shithole experiments of California, New York, Illinois etc etc....



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As others have said, the GOP knows nothing about winning elections. You're too caught up in petty scorekeeping and "owning the libs". So by all means keep cheering along with us about the steady export of blue voters into increasingly competitive states like Texas, when red Texas finally falls it will mean the end of GOP power on the national level.

Nah schmuck I want the country to not head the direction of the shithole states I mentioned. Obviously you are hoping that will be the case.

You clowns don't understand that your platform will not fly with the majority of normal Americans, your only strategy is to harvest ballots in blue city shitholes and punish normal people in the process.

Florida is the future of this country, how it is trending will spread.

The big tent is forming itself and it doesn't include circus freaks like the left trots out.

I do see a tent and some circus freaks, how appropriate that Florida seems to be your new seat of power since it is the traditional winter home of carnival freaks. Fortunately last Tuesday, the rest of the country declined to run away and join the circus.

And while Ringmaster Ron has demonstrated an impressive hold on the Florida electorate, we'll see how successful he is at translating that nationally. I'd be a lot more concerned if the big orange clown down south wasn't going to wage scorched earth warfare against him, and I think we can all agree he couldn't care less whether or not he burns your tent down in the process. You'll either nominate him and lose with the voters, or deny him and he'll do you far more internal damage than we ever could.

(11-14-2022 10:15 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 09:58 AM)maximus Wrote:  There should be nonstop commercials showing the data of how people are fleeing the shithole experiments of California, New York, Illinois etc etc....



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As others have said, the GOP knows nothing about winning elections. You're too caught up in petty scorekeeping and "owning the libs". So by all means keep cheering along with us about the steady export of blue voters into increasingly competitive states like Texas, when red Texas finally falls it will mean the end of GOP power on the national level.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/11/09/...sults/amp/

(11-14-2022 12:04 PM)maximus Wrote:  Florida is the future of this country, how it is trending will spread.

Florida can't work for states that aren't huge tourist destinations. That is the problem with that viewpoint. Ohio can't get rid of income taxes by having super expensive hotel taxes and toll roads. Every state has to be different and will be different based on the industries that employ the people.

A large number of citizens on both sides of the political discourse are going to have some serious issues to deal with in the not too distant future.

All of this is necessary for the USA to eventually collapse. It has been a good run for 246 years; but it will end. It has to get much worse for the "plug to be pulled". I believe it will take about 30 years for the unofficial split to create such serious stability issues that the vast majority of both sides will realize a need to TRUE CHANGE.

Finally leaders from the various factions/sides will get together to dissolve the USA and form what I call the North American Union (NAU). Obviously the leaders in the 2050's and on into the early 60's could call the concept something else.

Basically I believe the former USA - perhaps with some of Canada - will merge into about 7 or 8 different "regions" similar to the current European Union.

The bottom line is the USA will NOT see a tricentennial in 2076. I can't see things continuing like this for 50+ more years.

(11-14-2022 11:31 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 10:42 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 10:28 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  America of the 1950's will never return. If that's what you are wanting, and voting for, you would be correct.

The America of the future is looking brighter than it has in a long time.

How is it looking brighter?

Trump appears to be fading into the rear view mirror, for starters.

There are all sorts of politicians that are unpopular. I think Pelosi, Schumer and Biden are cancers to this country yet they are still in their elected positions. So how is that making the future brighter?

Nah, not too far gone to save. It just hasn't gotten bad enough, on a personal basis, for those that keep voting for high inflation, etc. It WILL get bad enough, eventually.

(11-14-2022 01:27 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 11:31 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 10:42 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 10:28 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  America of the 1950's will never return. If that's what you are wanting, and voting for, you would be correct.

The America of the future is looking brighter than it has in a long time.

How is it looking brighter?

Trump appears to be fading into the rear view mirror, for starters.

There are all sorts of politicians that are unpopular. I think Pelosi, Schumer and Biden are cancers to this country yet they are still in their elected positions. So how is that making the future brighter?

Congressional term limits & a max age for POTUS would solve many of the problems in politics.

(11-14-2022 01:01 PM)boss man Wrote:  A large number of citizens on both sides of the political discourse are going to have some serious issues to deal with in the not too distant future.

All of this is necessary for the USA to eventually collapse. It has been a good run for 246 years; but it will end. It has to get much worse for the "plug to be pulled". I believe it will take about 30 years for the unofficial split to create such serious stability issues that the vast majority of both sides will realize a need to TRUE CHANGE.

Finally leaders from the various factions/sides will get together to dissolve the USA and form what I call the North American Union (NAU). Obviously the leaders in the 2050's and on into the early 60's could call the concept something else.

Basically I believe the former USA - perhaps with some of Canada - will merge into about 7 or 8 different "regions" similar to the current European Union.

The bottom line is the USA will NOT see a tricentennial in 2076. I can't see things continuing like this for 50+ more years.

Once that happens, and America falls, the world will enter a thousand years of darkness.

(11-14-2022 01:29 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 01:27 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 11:31 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 10:42 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 10:28 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  America of the 1950's will never return. If that's what you are wanting, and voting for, you would be correct.

The America of the future is looking brighter than it has in a long time.

How is it looking brighter?

Trump appears to be fading into the rear view mirror, for starters.

There are all sorts of politicians that are unpopular. I think Pelosi, Schumer and Biden are cancers to this country yet they are still in their elected positions. So how is that making the future brighter?

Congressional term limits & a max age for POTUS would solve many of the problems in politics.

Those won't fix a thing. People will still vote based on identity politics.

(11-14-2022 01:29 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 01:01 PM)boss man Wrote:  A large number of citizens on both sides of the political discourse are going to have some serious issues to deal with in the not too distant future.

All of this is necessary for the USA to eventually collapse. It has been a good run for 246 years; but it will end. It has to get much worse for the "plug to be pulled". I believe it will take about 30 years for the unofficial split to create such serious stability issues that the vast majority of both sides will realize a need to TRUE CHANGE.

Finally leaders from the various factions/sides will get together to dissolve the USA and form what I call the North American Union (NAU). Obviously the leaders in the 2050's and on into the early 60's could call the concept something else.

Basically I believe the former USA - perhaps with some of Canada - will merge into about 7 or 8 different "regions" similar to the current European Union.

The bottom line is the USA will NOT see a tricentennial in 2076. I can't see things continuing like this for 50+ more years.

Once that happens, and America falls, the world will enter a thousand years of darkness.

Thankfully we have climate change to help speed up the process.

(11-14-2022 01:30 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 01:29 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 01:27 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 11:31 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 10:42 AM)miko33 Wrote:  How is it looking brighter?

Trump appears to be fading into the rear view mirror, for starters.

There are all sorts of politicians that are unpopular. I think Pelosi, Schumer and Biden are cancers to this country yet they are still in their elected positions. So how is that making the future brighter?

Congressional term limits & a max age for POTUS would solve many of the problems in politics.

Those won't fix a thing. People will still vote based on identity politics.

Conflating two issues - you won't have bitter lifers looking to settle scores and revenge tactics on a daily basis.

(11-14-2022 12:56 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 12:04 PM)maximus Wrote:  Florida is the future of this country, how it is trending will spread.

Florida can't work for states that aren't huge tourist destinations. That is the problem with that viewpoint. Ohio can't get rid of income taxes by having super expensive hotel taxes and toll roads. Every state has to be different and will be different based on the industries that employ the people.

Way to miss the point.

What changes in election laws did Florida make before this election? This has nothing to do with being a tourist destination or income taxes. Focus, man.

(11-14-2022 01:31 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 01:30 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 01:29 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 01:27 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 11:31 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Trump appears to be fading into the rear view mirror, for starters.

There are all sorts of politicians that are unpopular. I think Pelosi, Schumer and Biden are cancers to this country yet they are still in their elected positions. So how is that making the future brighter?

Congressional term limits & a max age for POTUS would solve many of the problems in politics.

Those won't fix a thing. People will still vote based on identity politics.

Conflating two issues - you won't have bitter lifers looking to settle scores and revenge tactics on a daily basis.

If terms limits existed, you wouldn't have lifers true, but you would still end up.with politicians spending their two terms or however long they're allowed to stay in looking to get even with their enemies.

Sounds like some of you guys should leave. Good Luck to ya!

(11-14-2022 01:34 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 01:31 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 01:30 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 01:29 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 01:27 PM)miko33 Wrote:  There are all sorts of politicians that are unpopular. I think Pelosi, Schumer and Biden are cancers to this country yet they are still in their elected positions. So how is that making the future brighter?

Congressional term limits & a max age for POTUS would solve many of the problems in politics.

Those won't fix a thing. People will still vote based on identity politics.

Conflating two issues - you won't have bitter lifers looking to settle scores and revenge tactics on a daily basis.

If terms limits existed, you wouldn't have lifers true, but you would still end up.with politicians spending their two terms or however long they're allowed to stay in looking to get even with their enemies.

The "establishment" in both parties would have to have fresh blood every decade or so. McConnell controls the entire GOP agenda. Schumer/Pelosi controls the entire Democrat agenda. Giving that an expiration date lessens their grip and will give more power back to their bases.

(11-14-2022 12:56 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 12:04 PM)maximus Wrote:  Florida is the future of this country, how it is trending will spread.

Florida can't work for states that aren't huge tourist destinations. That is the problem with that viewpoint. Ohio can't get rid of income taxes by having super expensive hotel taxes and toll roads. Every state has to be different and will be different based on the industries that employ the people.

Exactly, plus the D areas of Florida pay for the R areas of Florida by producing the overwhelming majority of the state's revenue.

(11-14-2022 12:04 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 10:15 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(11-14-2022 09:58 AM)maximus Wrote:  There should be nonstop commercials showing the data of how people are fleeing the shithole experiments of California, New York, Illinois etc etc....



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As others have said, the GOP knows nothing about winning elections. You're too caught up in petty scorekeeping and "owning the libs". So by all means keep cheering along with us about the steady export of blue voters into increasingly competitive states like Texas, when red Texas finally falls it will mean the end of GOP power on the national level.

Nah schmuck I want the country to not head the direction of the shithole states I mentioned. Obviously you are hoping that will be the case.

You clowns don't understand that your platform will not fly with the majority of normal Americans, your only strategy is to harvest ballots in blue city shitholes and punish normal people in the process.

Florida is the future of this country, how it is trending will spread.

The big tent is forming itself and it doesn't include circus freaks like the left trots out.

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You want to be a Floridaman huh?

(11-14-2022 10:28 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  America of the 1950's will never return. If that's what you are wanting, and voting for, you would be correct.

The America of the future is looking brighter than it has in a long time.

Why exactly? What looks so bright about it specifically? I can go either way depending on what kind of reality you're talking about.