Quote:Democrats are all-in on Pennsylvania Senator-to-be John Fetterman, and if you thought it was weird enough that someone with actual brain damage got elected, then hang on to your hats because this is about to get much weirder.

MSNBC’s election night was filled to the brim with relatively relaxed and pleased Democrats, one of whom was MSNBC host Katy Tur. Leaning back, arms folded, and with a sly smile on her face, Tur wondered aloud if maybe Fetterman has a future in the Oval Office given his performance in the red parts of Pennsylvania.

“Fetterman as a nominee at some point for President,” began Tur. “I know there are some variables, obviously.”

“What he did in the super-red, deep-red parts of Pennsylvania, and the way that he ran ahead of Biden as we were saying, and the way that he ran ahead of Trump, I mean, it makes you wonder about his future.”

To be clear, Fetterman has no business being in office at all. The man suffered a stroke not that long ago, and you can see its outward effect on him. He has a hard time keeping track of what he’s talking about and ends up saying bizarre things. He sounds more like a babbling toddler with a grown man’s voice than someone who has it together.

The bottom line is that Fetterman does not have it together enough to run his office without assistance, and that’s assistance we’re not electing. Those people are being chosen by other outside forces and none of these people answer to us, the citizens granting one man the power of the people.

If you’re an authoritarian with grand designs for a more authoritarian state, you salivate at the idea of a man who can’t run his own office being elected because it gives you the chance to step in and run it in the background. This might sound a bit conspiracy theorist, but it’s the logical truth. Fetterman is not going to run his office. He doesn’t have the cognitive capacity to do so. Others will have to do it for him, and they don’t have to face you for their action.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Fetterman candidacy in the future. Democrats already elected a man who has no business being in the oval office due to his cognitive decay, so it’s not that much of a stretch to think they’d put Fetterman up as an option.

If they do, when you see Fetterman know that what you’re really considering is putting a group of people behind him in power.

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They always complain there's been too many old white male presidents but continually nominate old white male presidents.

Imagine a scenario where John Fetterman looks at an electric vehicle.

Fetterman (checking the "gas tank", which is really the charging port for the electric vehicle): This ain't got no gas in it.

Random aide: Of course not, Sen. Fetterman. It's an electric vehicle.

Fetterman: Can we go to McDonalds in this thing? I want some French Fried potatuhs. Mm-hmm.

(11-10-2022 12:07 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  They always complain there's been too many old white male presidents but continually nominate old white male presidents.

Typical Republican misunderstanding of diversity. It doesn't mean there won't be old white male Presidential nominees, just that not ALL the nominees will be old white males. "Continually" is flat out wrong here, as the Democratic nominee was either nonwhite or nonmale in 3 of the last 5 cycles (2008, 2012, 2016). Our current President was the first old white male Democratic nominee since John Kerry in 2004 16 years earlier.

I don’t think you’ll ever see a John Fetterman presidential campaign.

Although the combined precedents of Joe Biden becoming POTUS in 2021, and now Fetterman winning a Senate election in 2022, makes me less sure of that than I would’ve been before.

One prediction I will make with with confidence, though, is that John Fetterman will not resign from the Senate, regardless of what his mental/physical condition is like over the next 6 years. Some have speculated that he might resign, secure in the knowledge that Gov.-elect Shapiro would appoint a loyal-Dem successor. I don’t think that will happen at all. I think the only scenario where Shapiro gets to make a replacement pick is if Fetterman dies.

Hard to say if he would have the appeal to overcome the primaries.

(11-10-2022 12:07 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  They always complain there's been too many old white male presidents but continually nominate old white male presidents.

Ummm.... while true currently, did they not nominate a young african american and elect him? Seriously... to make that point is idiotic.

Dude is a walking lobotomy.

It's even sadder when you look at governors. Pathetic

Lieutenant governors look a little better but looks like they got a slew of them over the past cycle or 2. So making progress there at least.

(11-10-2022 12:27 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 12:07 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  They always complain there's been too many old white male presidents but continually nominate old white male presidents.

Typical Republican misunderstanding of diversity. It doesn't mean there won't be old white male Presidential nominees, just that not ALL the nominees will be old white males. "Continually" is flat out wrong here, as the Democratic nominee was either nonwhite or nonmale in 3 of the last 5 cycles (2008, 2012, 2016). Our current President was the first old white male Democratic nominee since John Kerry in 2004 16 years earlier.

08 & 12 same guy
so you have 08 & 16 & not looking to change that for 2024. Pathetic

(11-10-2022 12:52 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 12:07 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  They always complain there's been too many old white male presidents but continually nominate old white male presidents.

Ummm.... while true currently, did they not nominate a young african american and elect him? Seriously... to make that point is idiotic.

14 years ago & counting

Did something happen to khan :(

Fetterman actually would have been a far better candidate than many of the absolute clowns the Dems try to throw out as the "next generation" of the Dem party. He was one of the few Dems with an actual left populist economic agenda who also gave off the authentic "vibe" of connecting with the type of working class voter the Dems have just given up on. Unfortunately baring a miracle recovery that's over. I thought he was someone who could have taken up the mantle of what 2016 Bernie ran on (I think 2020 Bernie spent way too much time trying to fight against that "Bernie Bro" narrative instead of just running essentially the same campaign again and actually having the guts to attack "his good friend" Slow Joe), attacking Wall Street/offshoring jobs/the medical insurance cabal, and mostly ignoring identity politics. Unfortunately for my politics there's literally zero politicians on either side that want Universal Healthcare and want to just ignore the idiotic ID politics issues.

(11-10-2022 01:58 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Unfortunately for my politics there's literally zero politicians on either side that want Universal Healthcare.

If you worked in healthcare you'd understand why. What they are asking for fundamentally undermines the healthcare system currently in place and likely puts a ton of people out of work... insurance companies and hospitals. It is a trainwreck that both parties created themselves.

I heard a doctor discussing Fetterman's stoke and heart issues (which no one talks about). He said that those two things in conjuction, usually are an indicator of much worse health issues.

(11-10-2022 02:03 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  I heard a doctor discussing Fetterman's stoke and heart issues (which no one talks about). He said that those two things in conjuction, usually are an indicator of much worse health issues.

Pretty good sign that people are over Trump when they elect a person whom they know is compromised in terms of health.

(11-10-2022 02:10 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:03 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  I heard a doctor discussing Fetterman's stoke and heart issues (which no one talks about). He said that those two things in conjuction, usually are an indicator of much worse health issues.

Pretty good sign that people are over Trump when they elect a person whom they know is compromised in terms of health.

Are you referring to Fetterman or Biden?

We already got a tater in the office that doesn't work, why not try to put a younger more rounder tater in there.

(11-10-2022 02:01 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 01:58 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Unfortunately for my politics there's literally zero politicians on either side that want Universal Healthcare.

If you worked in healthcare you'd understand why. What they are asking for fundamentally undermines the healthcare system currently in place and likely puts a ton of people out of work... insurance companies and hospitals. It is a trainwreck that both parties created themselves.

I do work in the health care industry (on the finance side) and my wife will soon be a health care provider so I fully understand how fu*ked the US system is. My wife hasn't even graduated from NP school yet and she's considering getting out of it as quickly as she can because of how much of a scam insurance is and how intentionally hard they try to make it to treat patients for the sake of profit.

(11-10-2022 02:22 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:01 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 01:58 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Unfortunately for my politics there's literally zero politicians on either side that want Universal Healthcare.

If you worked in healthcare you'd understand why. What they are asking for fundamentally undermines the healthcare system currently in place and likely puts a ton of people out of work... insurance companies and hospitals. It is a trainwreck that both parties created themselves.

I do work in the health care industry (on the finance side) and my wife will soon be a health care provider so I fully understand how fu*ked the US system is. My wife hasn't even graduated from NP school yet and she's considering getting out of it as quickly as she can because of how much of a scam insurance is and how intentionally hard they try to make it to treat patients for the sake of profit.

And the US government getting in the middle of it doesn't help one bit.

(11-10-2022 02:14 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:10 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:03 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  I heard a doctor discussing Fetterman's stoke and heart issues (which no one talks about). He said that those two things in conjuction, usually are an indicator of much worse health issues.

Pretty good sign that people are over Trump when they elect a person whom they know is compromised in terms of health.

Are you referring to Fetterman or Biden?

Yes.

(11-10-2022 02:26 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:22 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 02:01 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(11-10-2022 01:58 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Unfortunately for my politics there's literally zero politicians on either side that want Universal Healthcare.

If you worked in healthcare you'd understand why. What they are asking for fundamentally undermines the healthcare system currently in place and likely puts a ton of people out of work... insurance companies and hospitals. It is a trainwreck that both parties created themselves.

I do work in the health care industry (on the finance side) and my wife will soon be a health care provider so I fully understand how fu*ked the US system is. My wife hasn't even graduated from NP school yet and she's considering getting out of it as quickly as she can because of how much of a scam insurance is and how intentionally hard they try to make it to treat patients for the sake of profit.

And the US government getting in the middle of it doesn't help one bit.

They actually make it worse. If you are in finance as you say, BJ, then you should understand that the costs for healthcare are especially inflated based on total BS regulations that do nothing to help the patient.