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Gil yard
Ridder
Gardner
Bryant

(10-23-2022 06:19 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Gilyard
Ridder
Gardner
Bryant

I think those are all reasonable, and probably it.

Isaiah Pead

(10-24-2022 06:47 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  Isaiah Pead

I was tossing around him a bit, but, while I think he is the best RB in school history, he holds no records (and held none when he left the program), had a pretty significant and particularly scented cloud over himself for much of his college and pro career, and he wasn't an absolutely essential part of any of our stellar years.

I saw last night on the game that Miami has the '72 team on their ring.

Why not put the whole 2021 team up there?

I love me some I. Pead and he is definitely in the conversation as one of the best RB's we've ever had, but do to the time period he played in people always forget about Demarco McCleskey. McCleskey is:

#2 behind Reggie Taylor for career yards (3,487)
#1 yards in a single season (1,361)
#1 in careers rushing TDs (39)
#4 TDs in a single season (15)

A case can also be made for Mike Warren. Nobody moved the chains consistently as the Truck. He didn't have the home run ability that Pead or Jerome Ford did, but if we needed a first down or the ball was on the goal line, he was going to lower hit hat and get the yardage needed.

(10-23-2022 06:19 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Gil yard
Ridder
Gardner
Bryant

I think Gilyard, Ridder and Gardner have to be in the Ring of Honor. Bryant would be a worth addition.

It's weird that Gilyard would be the only player from the 2009 team. I'd be good with Pike/Pead, but they aren't essential.

I'd love to see Antwan Peek and Brad Jackson in the ring of honor.

(10-24-2022 07:52 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I love me some I. Pead and he is definitely in the conversation as one of the best RB's we've ever had, but do to the time period he played in people always forget about Demarco McCleskey. McCleskey is:

#2 behind Reggie Taylor for career yards (3,487)
#1 yards in a single season (1,361)
#1 in careers rushing TDs (39)
#4 TDs in a single season (15)

A case can also be made for Mike Warren. Nobody moved the chains consistently as the Truck. He didn't have the home run ability that Pead or Jerome Ford did, but if we needed a first down or the ball was on the goal line, he was going to lower hit hat and get the yardage needed.

There are good arguments for "all of the above" as the answer. To me, one of the challenges is taking enough time after their playing careers to evaluate them compared to others who have been honored. But not so much time that they can't feel valued and appreciated during their own lifetime for their contributions.

Travis Kelce
Jason Kelce
Zach Collaros
Terrell Byrd
Dominick Goodman

Each is deserving.

(10-24-2022 08:12 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 06:19 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Gil yard
Ridder
Gardner
Bryant

I think Gilyard, Ridder and Gardner have to be in the Ring of Honor. Bryant would be a worth addition.

It's weird that Gilyard would be the only player from the 2009 team. I'd be good with Pike/Pead, but they aren't essential.

I'd love to see Antwan Peek and Brad Jackson in the ring of honor.

Doss named the four I'd add.

I'd actually put Connor Barwin ahead of Bryant, but Bryant was a 1st-team All American so they almost have to put him in.

Oddly enough, even adding Barwin doesn't help with the lack of 2009 representation. Barwin was gone by then.

My conclusion is that '09 was a lot of good players rather than a few all-time great ones.

(10-24-2022 10:37 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(10-24-2022 08:12 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-23-2022 06:19 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Gil yard
Ridder
Gardner
Bryant

I think Gilyard, Ridder and Gardner have to be in the Ring of Honor. Bryant would be a worth addition.

It's weird that Gilyard would be the only player from the 2009 team. I'd be good with Pike/Pead, but they aren't essential.

I'd love to see Antwan Peek and Brad Jackson in the ring of honor.

Doss named the four I'd add.

I'd actually put Connor Barwin ahead of Bryant, but Bryant was a 1st-team All American so they almost have to put him in.

Oddly enough, even adding Barwin doesn't help with the lack of 2009 representation. Barwin was gone by then.

My conclusion is that '09 was a lot of good players rather than a few all-time great ones.

I think Barwin is more of a UC Athletics Hall of Famer than a ring of honor guy. He really only had one big time year for the UC football program. Guys like Peek, Trent Cole, Derek Wolfe, Byrd, hell even Craig and Hoke...had more impactful playing careers as defensive lineman than Barwin.

I think he should get strong consideration for the UC Hall of Fame because of that great football year and how much he was counted on to give minutes in basketball (Plus his NFL career and the all-around guy he seems to be are strong intangible factors).

For a frame of reference:

Nippert Stadium Ring of Honor

Tom O'Malley
Gene Rossi
Bill Shalosky
Dick Goist
Jack Lee
Greg Cook
Jim O'Brien
Tom Marvaso
Mike Woods
Reggie Taylor
Jonathan Ruffin
Gino Guidugli
Kevin Huber

When I think of names that should be on the ROH, some names that pop into my head in addition to the ones mentioned are (in no particular order) Brent Celek, Mike Mickens, Derek Wolfe, Joe Morrison, Brig Owens, Ray Nolting, Elbie Nickel, Willard Stargel… what about Leonard “Teddy” Baehr?

Do something new. Add CLF to the ring of honor.

(10-24-2022 11:17 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Do something new. Add CLF to the ring of honor.

Along with a statue.

I don't think the prestige of a Ring of Honor should be watered down. IMO some pre-requisites should be that they were either drafted to the NFL, received some sort of All American recognition, and are or at some point the school's all time leader/record holder in a certain category. There have no doubt been some great players that we enjoyed watching over the years, but without researching each person currently in the ring, it looks as if the UC administration currently has the same sort of criteria. (This is just in response to some of the other players mentioned)

Personally, I'd like it to be at least 2 out of the 3 criteria, but in certain cases, one can be sufficient. (for instance, I think Gino's only accolade is he's the all time passing leader)
I THINK all 4 guys initially listed in this thread meet 2 out of the 3.

Being considered for the UC Hall of Fame is one thing, but IMO they should be something extra special to be Ring of Honor.

Karl Woods

(10-24-2022 12:46 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  I don't think the prestige of a Ring of Honor should be watered down. IMO some pre-requisites should be that they were either drafted to the NFL, received some sort of All American recognition, and are or at some point the school's all time leader/record holder in a certain category. There have no doubt been some great players that we enjoyed watching over the years, but without researching each person currently in the ring, it looks as if the UC administration currently has the same sort of criteria. (This is just in response to some of the other players mentioned)

Personally, I'd like it to be at least 2 out of the 3 criteria, but in certain cases, one can be sufficient. (for instance, I think Gino's only accolade is he's the all time passing leader)
I THINK all 4 guys initially listed in this thread meet 2 out of the 3.

Being considered for the UC Hall of Fame is one thing, but IMO they should be something extra special to be Ring of Honor.

I agree there should be a select group; that being said I disagree with some of your metrics including being an NFL draftee. Dominic Goodman and Terrill Byrd had two of the greatest Bearcat careers of anyone ever but did not get drafted. Conversely, Travis Kelce is a GOAT in the NFL, but TBH he was only great at UC during his senior year.

Does anyone know what the metrics are to Be included?