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There’s a better chance of you flying to the moon by flapping your arms up and down like wings.

The Republicans are getting pretty tired of it, so they might make it happen.
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Republicans love war and getting rich off it just as much as Dems. It’s one of the few non partisan issues. And trust me, plenty of Republicans are feeding at this trough too.
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(10-05-2022 06:43 PM)Todor Wrote:  Republicans love war and getting rich off it just as much as Dems. It’s one of the few non partisan issues. And trust me, plenty of Republicans are feeding at this trough too.

You Russia schills are literally one in the same.

The world is watching your sorry ass military unravel. The so-called 2nd best Army in the world is now the 2nd best Army in Ukraine!

All you have left is crying and whining about the cost of assisting Ukraine bc you know the only chance you have left is Kyiv losing support from the West.
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(10-05-2022 06:57 PM)indianashocker Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 06:43 PM)Todor Wrote:  Republicans love war and getting rich off it just as much as Dems. It’s one of the few non partisan issues. And trust me, plenty of Republicans are feeding at this trough too.

You Russia schills are literally one in the same.

The worls is watching your sorry ass military unravel. The so-called 2nd best Army in the world is now the 2nd best Army in Ukraine!

All you have left is crying and whining about the cost if assisting Ukraine bc you know the only chance you have left is Kyiv losing support from the West.

That’s fine, but take get the loans to pay for it in your own name and don’t include me.
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(10-05-2022 07:00 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 06:57 PM)indianashocker Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 06:43 PM)Todor Wrote:  Republicans love war and getting rich off it just as much as Dems. It’s one of the few non partisan issues. And trust me, plenty of Republicans are feeding at this trough too.

You Russia schills are literally one in the same.

The worls is watching your sorry ass military unravel. The so-called 2nd best Army in the world is now the 2nd best Army in Ukraine!

All you have left is crying and whining about the cost if assisting Ukraine bc you know the only chance you have left is Kyiv losing support from the West.

That’s fine, but take get the loans to pay for it in your own name and don’t include me.

Doubt you're paying into the Ukraine pot. I'm sure the Kremlin is putting your taxes to good use (i.e. Putin's savings account).
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(10-05-2022 07:12 PM)indianashocker Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 07:00 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 06:57 PM)indianashocker Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 06:43 PM)Todor Wrote:  Republicans love war and getting rich off it just as much as Dems. It’s one of the few non partisan issues. And trust me, plenty of Republicans are feeding at this trough too.

You Russia schills are literally one in the same.

The worls is watching your sorry ass military unravel. The so-called 2nd best Army in the world is now the 2nd best Army in Ukraine!

All you have left is crying and whining about the cost if assisting Ukraine bc you know the only chance you have left is Kyiv losing support from the West.

That’s fine, but take get the loans to pay for it in your own name and don’t include me.

Doubt you're paying into the Ukraine pot. I'm sure the Kremlin is putting your taxes to good use (i.e. Putin's savings account).

Here, read about Russias current account surplus

https://www.fitchsolutions.com/country-r...23-06-2022

If you haven’t heard the term “surplus” and need to check the meaning, I won’t fault you because it’s not something we ever hear about here.
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(10-05-2022 07:15 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 07:12 PM)indianashocker Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 07:00 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 06:57 PM)indianashocker Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 06:43 PM)Todor Wrote:  Republicans love war and getting rich off it just as much as Dems. It’s one of the few non partisan issues. And trust me, plenty of Republicans are feeding at this trough too.

You Russia schills are literally one in the same.

The worls is watching your sorry ass military unravel. The so-called 2nd best Army in the world is now the 2nd best Army in Ukraine!

All you have left is crying and whining about the cost if assisting Ukraine bc you know the only chance you have left is Kyiv losing support from the West.

That’s fine, but take get the loans to pay for it in your own name and don’t include me.

Doubt you're paying into the Ukraine pot. I'm sure the Kremlin is putting your taxes to good use (i.e. Putin's savings account).

Here, read about Russias current account surplus

https://www.fitchsolutions.com/country-r...23-06-2022

If you haven’t heard the term “surplus” and need to check the meaning, I won’t fault you because it’s not something we ever hear about here.

Anything Russia reports is the exact opposite. They can't even afford to supply their troops FFS
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(10-05-2022 07:16 PM)indianashocker Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 07:15 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 07:12 PM)indianashocker Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 07:00 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 06:57 PM)indianashocker Wrote:  You Russia schills are literally one in the same.

The worls is watching your sorry ass military unravel. The so-called 2nd best Army in the world is now the 2nd best Army in Ukraine!

All you have left is crying and whining about the cost if assisting Ukraine bc you know the only chance you have left is Kyiv losing support from the West.

That’s fine, but take get the loans to pay for it in your own name and don’t include me.

Doubt you're paying into the Ukraine pot. I'm sure the Kremlin is putting your taxes to good use (i.e. Putin's savings account).

Here, read about Russias current account surplus

https://www.fitchsolutions.com/country-r...23-06-2022

If you haven’t heard the term “surplus” and need to check the meaning, I won’t fault you because it’s not something we ever hear about here.

Anything Russia reports is the exact opposite. They can't even afford to supply their troops FFS

And we can’t afford to supply Ukraines. That’s why we have to borrow the money to do it.

Who says Russia has a surplus? From the link I provided that you didn’t read—

{Leveraging over 100 years of experience on over 20,000 entities around the world, Fitch Solutions is the authoritative source of Fitch Ratings highly regarded credit research, and multi award-winning ratings data, including Fitch Ratings ESG Relevance Scores Data.}

Virtually every major financial services provider in the world uses their research. Sorry it’s not up to your standard.
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(10-05-2022 06:18 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 06:11 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 06:08 PM)indianashocker Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 06:02 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 05:55 PM)indianashocker Wrote:  current state of the russian army

If that’s true, it shouldn’t take too many more billion US dollars to defeat them, right?

Mud season will be upon Ukraine soon. Fighting will likely slows through the winter. By late next spring it will be close to finished.

Will it really take until late spring to defeat an army with no training, no guns and no food?
As long as Russians have Vladimir Putin and bodies to spend, it seems the money will keep flowing

Illness and desertions are more likely to bring defeat then winter fighting.
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(10-05-2022 06:43 PM)Todor Wrote:  Republicans love war and getting rich off it just as much as Dems. It’s one of the few non partisan issues. And trust me, plenty of Republicans are feeding at this trough too.


I don't think that is new information for anyone here. We all see the republican leaders in Washington backing Biden on all of this.
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Even the Russians are starting to supply military aid to the Ukrainians.

https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-no-longer...36690.html
"Ukraine is now well-supplied with artillery ammo taken from the Russian retreat, the WSJ reported.

Ukraine's soldiers faced severe shortages of ammunition earlier in the war.

As most of its arsenal is Soviet or Russian-made, there are limited sources of resupply for Ukraine.

Ammunition left behind by fleeing Russian troops is filling Ukraine's depleted reserves and powering its counter-offensive, according to The Wall Street Journal.

Russia's hurried retreat from Kharkiv in early September saw soldiers abandoning a mass of hardware, including tanks, other armored vehicles and howitzers.

They also left behind huge quantities of Soviet-caliber artillery shells, the paper reported....


Oryx, a project that documents and tracks military equipment usage and losses, counts 442 Russian tanks as captured by Ukrainians throughout the entire war. Three hundred and twenty tanks have been supplied to Ukraine from elsewhere, the WSJ reported.

Armored fighting vehicles and infantry fighting vehicles captured from Russia also outnumber foreign donations, per Oryx's reckoning."
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(10-03-2022 05:21 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(10-03-2022 03:51 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(10-03-2022 08:39 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  I really hope nukes never come in to the equation. There are so many places I want to go see in the country, and if it all gets turned into glass, that will never happen. Lake Baikal, Baikonur Cosmodrome (in Kazakhstan, technically), Ural mountains, Caucasus mountains, Siberia and the Far East... it'd be REALLY interesting if Putin's palace stays intact after he is dead and forgotten.

Putin won't nuke there. He'll nuke the U.S.
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Zero chance of that. He’d nuke something in Ukraine if he were going to use a nuclear weapon. Nuking the US leaves America no other option but nuking the Russian homeland—-likely a decapitation strike that Nukes Moscow until it glows in the dark. If it gets to that point—-your clearly better off negotiating with anyone other than an off the rails Putin.

That said—Putin isn’t using nukes unless the existence of the Russian state is threatened—-and nobody is interested in even considering that. Nuclear armed nations are basically like massive “too big to fail” banks. Nobody is going to attack them because there is no point as long as they have a that nuclear trump card. That’s why all this Russian “security” talk is is a smoke screen. Nothing they can do with their borders comes close to the security guarantee they already have due to their massive nuclear arsenal. This war is about Putins vanity and nothing more. He wants to be a modern Katherine the Great.

I would like to point out the thread on this forum

Biden administration quietly stockpiles 'nuclear emergency' drugs

They have also been running public service ads in the NYC area about what to do in case of a nuclear attack.
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(10-05-2022 07:00 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 06:57 PM)indianashocker Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 06:43 PM)Todor Wrote:  Republicans love war and getting rich off it just as much as Dems. It’s one of the few non partisan issues. And trust me, plenty of Republicans are feeding at this trough too.

You Russia schills are literally one in the same.

The worls is watching your sorry ass military unravel. The so-called 2nd best Army in the world is now the 2nd best Army in Ukraine!

All you have left is crying and whining about the cost if assisting Ukraine bc you know the only chance you have left is Kyiv losing support from the West.

That’s fine, but take get the loans to pay for it in your own name and don’t include me.

But you didn't complain when Trump was all about "rebuilding" our military and increasing their budget considerably, were you?
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(10-06-2022 12:43 PM)Claw Wrote:  I would like to point out the thread on this forum

Biden administration quietly stockpiles 'nuclear emergency' drugs

They have also been running public service ads in the NYC area about what to do in case of a nuclear attack.

If Putin does that then it won't matter... we're all done. His own commanders will never do that order as they know it is suicide.
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(10-06-2022 12:43 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(10-03-2022 05:21 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(10-03-2022 03:51 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(10-03-2022 08:39 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  I really hope nukes never come in to the equation. There are so many places I want to go see in the country, and if it all gets turned into glass, that will never happen. Lake Baikal, Baikonur Cosmodrome (in Kazakhstan, technically), Ural mountains, Caucasus mountains, Siberia and the Far East... it'd be REALLY interesting if Putin's palace stays intact after he is dead and forgotten.

Putin won't nuke there. He'll nuke the U.S.
.

Zero chance of that. He’d nuke something in Ukraine if he were going to use a nuclear weapon. Nuking the US leaves America no other option but nuking the Russian homeland—-likely a decapitation strike that Nukes Moscow until it glows in the dark. If it gets to that point—-your clearly better off negotiating with anyone other than an off the rails Putin.

That said—Putin isn’t using nukes unless the existence of the Russian state is threatened—-and nobody is interested in even considering that. Nuclear armed nations are basically like massive “too big to fail” banks. Nobody is going to attack them because there is no point as long as they have a that nuclear trump card. That’s why all this Russian “security” talk is is a smoke screen. Nothing they can do with their borders comes close to the security guarantee they already have due to their massive nuclear arsenal. This war is about Putins vanity and nothing more. He wants to be a modern Katherine the Great.

I would like to point out the thread on this forum

Biden administration quietly stockpiles 'nuclear emergency' drugs

They have also been running public service ads in the NYC area about what to do in case of a nuclear attack.

We stockpiled anti-radiation drugs like iodine for decades. They also ran those public service announcements in the 1960's fairly often. Heck, at school, we were all taught to get under our desks (lol---as if a childs wood school desk is going to offer any protection from a nuclear blast).

Yet here we all are---and nobody ever launched a nuke at one another----despite the fact that Russia was shooting down our planes in Korea, shooting them down in Vietnam, arming a government 90 miles off our shores, apparently paying bounties on American soldiers in the middle east---and we were not angels----we armed Russia's enemies in Afghanistan. Despite all that poking one another----we are all still here and no nuke was ever lobbed. There is a very simple reason it never happened---if you throw a nuke---you're probably going to catch a nuke---especially if you lob it at the only nation who's proven they will use a nuke.

Lets cut to the chase----in Ukraine, the men and women are volunteering to fight. In Russia their reserves are fleeing to the borders trying to get out before they are called up. If there is no support among the population for further conscription----do you think the Russian population really wants to escalate to the point of nukes falling on their heads? I'd say there is a much much greater chance Putin will go on a long "vacation" at his Dacha than there is a chance Russia uses a nuke.
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(10-06-2022 01:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(10-06-2022 12:43 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(10-03-2022 05:21 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(10-03-2022 03:51 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(10-03-2022 08:39 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  I really hope nukes never come in to the equation. There are so many places I want to go see in the country, and if it all gets turned into glass, that will never happen. Lake Baikal, Baikonur Cosmodrome (in Kazakhstan, technically), Ural mountains, Caucasus mountains, Siberia and the Far East... it'd be REALLY interesting if Putin's palace stays intact after he is dead and forgotten.

Putin won't nuke there. He'll nuke the U.S.
.

Zero chance of that. He’d nuke something in Ukraine if he were going to use a nuclear weapon. Nuking the US leaves America no other option but nuking the Russian homeland—-likely a decapitation strike that Nukes Moscow until it glows in the dark. If it gets to that point—-your clearly better off negotiating with anyone other than an off the rails Putin.

That said—Putin isn’t using nukes unless the existence of the Russian state is threatened—-and nobody is interested in even considering that. Nuclear armed nations are basically like massive “too big to fail” banks. Nobody is going to attack them because there is no point as long as they have a that nuclear trump card. That’s why all this Russian “security” talk is is a smoke screen. Nothing they can do with their borders comes close to the security guarantee they already have due to their massive nuclear arsenal. This war is about Putins vanity and nothing more. He wants to be a modern Katherine the Great.

I would like to point out the thread on this forum

Biden administration quietly stockpiles 'nuclear emergency' drugs

They have also been running public service ads in the NYC area about what to do in case of a nuclear attack.

We stockpiled anti-radiation drugs like iodine for decades. They also ran those public service announcements in the 1960's fairly often. Heck, at school, we were all taught to get under our desks (lol---as if a childs wood school desk is going to offer any protection from a nuclear blast).

Yet here we all are---and nobody ever launched a nuke at one another----despite the fact that Russia was shooting down our planes in Korea, shooting them down in Vietnam, arming a government 90 miles off our shores, apparently paying bounties on American soldiers in the middle east---and we were not angels----we armed Russia's enemies in Afghanistan. Despite all that poking one another----we are all still here and no nuke was ever lobbed. There is a very simple reason it never happened---if you throw a nuke---you're probably going to catch a nuke---especially if you lob it at the only nation who's proven they will use a nuke.

And authorities stock body bags for hurricane season. Are they not supposed to plan for disasters but hope they never happened? Or is the aftermath of Katrina already forgotten?
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(10-05-2022 07:17 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 07:16 PM)indianashocker Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 07:15 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 07:12 PM)indianashocker Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 07:00 PM)Todor Wrote:  That’s fine, but take get the loans to pay for it in your own name and don’t include me.

Doubt you're paying into the Ukraine pot. I'm sure the Kremlin is putting your taxes to good use (i.e. Putin's savings account).

Here, read about Russias current account surplus

https://www.fitchsolutions.com/country-r...23-06-2022

If you haven’t heard the term “surplus” and need to check the meaning, I won’t fault you because it’s not something we ever hear about here.

Anything Russia reports is the exact opposite. They can't even afford to supply their troops FFS

And we can’t afford to supply Ukraines. That’s why we have to borrow the money to do it.

Who says Russia has a surplus? From the link I provided that you didn’t read—

{Leveraging over 100 years of experience on over 20,000 entities around the world, Fitch Solutions is the authoritative source of Fitch Ratings highly regarded credit research, and multi award-winning ratings data, including Fitch Ratings ESG Relevance Scores Data.}

Virtually every major financial services provider in the world uses their research. Sorry it’s not up to your standard.

As someone who has taught international finance courses in college.... that is not what a current account surplus means.

A current account surplus is when you export more goods & services & transfers out of the country by immigrants & corporations than you import.

Everything has to equal out. By definition*: Current Account + Capital Account + Financial Account + Change in Official Reserves = 0

* The only exception to this is "errors & omissions," which is transfers that are illegal (payment for smuggling drugs or weapons) or transfers of cash that are untraceable.

Financial Account = Change in ownership of domestic financial securities & assets by foreign entities
Capital Account = government transfers such as debt forgiveness; usually very small; formerly a subsection of the Financial Account



So a current account surplus CAN indicate economic health. But more often, it indicates a lack of development in your financial sector (i.e. your banking sector isn't able to provide sufficient investment capital, so you have to get it from abroad). Or it can indicate that you are stockpiling foreign currency reserves.


I looked up Russia's data at the IMF. They had a current account surplus of $115 billion in 2018, $65b in 2019, $35b in 2020, and $122b in 2021. They haven't reported Q1 2022 yet. So it's impossible for outsiders to say for sure how the war has affected Russia's balance of payments.
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(10-06-2022 01:20 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 07:17 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 07:16 PM)indianashocker Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 07:15 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(10-05-2022 07:12 PM)indianashocker Wrote:  Doubt you're paying into the Ukraine pot. I'm sure the Kremlin is putting your taxes to good use (i.e. Putin's savings account).

Here, read about Russias current account surplus

https://www.fitchsolutions.com/country-r...23-06-2022

If you haven’t heard the term “surplus” and need to check the meaning, I won’t fault you because it’s not something we ever hear about here.

Anything Russia reports is the exact opposite. They can't even afford to supply their troops FFS

And we can’t afford to supply Ukraines. That’s why we have to borrow the money to do it.

Who says Russia has a surplus? From the link I provided that you didn’t read—

{Leveraging over 100 years of experience on over 20,000 entities around the world, Fitch Solutions is the authoritative source of Fitch Ratings highly regarded credit research, and multi award-winning ratings data, including Fitch Ratings ESG Relevance Scores Data.}

Virtually every major financial services provider in the world uses their research. Sorry it’s not up to your standard.

As someone who has taught international finance courses in college.... that is not what a current account surplus means.

A current account surplus is when you export more goods & services & transfers out of the country by immigrants & corporations than you import.

Everything has to equal out. By definition*: Current Account + Capital Account + Financial Account + Change in Official Reserves = 0

* The only exception to this is "errors & omissions," which is transfers that are illegal (payment for smuggling drugs or weapons) or transfers of cash that are untraceable.

Financial Account = Change in ownership of domestic financial securities & assets by foreign entities
Capital Account = government transfers such as debt forgiveness; usually very small; formerly a subsection of the Financial Account



So a current account surplus CAN indicate economic health. But more often, it indicates a lack of development in your financial sector (i.e. your banking sector isn't able to provide sufficient investment capital, so you have to get it from abroad). Or it can indicate that you are stockpiling foreign currency reserves.


I looked up Russia's data at the IMF. They had a current account surplus of $115 billion in 2018, $65b in 2019, $35b in 2020, and $122b in 2021. They haven't reported Q1 2022 yet. So it's impossible for outsiders to say for sure how the war has affected Russia's balance of payments.

Im not sure it would hurt them all that much in the current period. Oil, gas, food , and commodity prices have been high---that all helps the revenue side. Furthermore, most of what the Russians are using in the war come from current stockpiles---meaning it was already paid for in past periods. Going forward---they will have MASSIVE costs to rebuild their weapons systems, ships, and ammo stockpiles---but as far as the current years payment goes---the war probably only marginally increasing costs. They called up reserves and have had to pay for outside troops from their puppet state---so those are certainly increased costs. But even those are less than they should be. For instance---this being a "special operation" means many of their soldiers are not even getting the "combat pay" bonus they deserve (an example---conscripts who are technically not supposed to be sent into combat are "officially" classified as still being in Russia---far away from the combat area--Thus, they are not getting the combat pay---even though these conscripts are actually in Ukraine fighting). You see---lying in Russia is so rampant its literally become part of their internal morale problems.
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RE: Ukrainians encircle 5000 Russian troops at Lyman
(10-06-2022 12:43 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(10-03-2022 05:21 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(10-03-2022 03:51 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(10-03-2022 08:39 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  I really hope nukes never come in to the equation. There are so many places I want to go see in the country, and if it all gets turned into glass, that will never happen. Lake Baikal, Baikonur Cosmodrome (in Kazakhstan, technically), Ural mountains, Caucasus mountains, Siberia and the Far East... it'd be REALLY interesting if Putin's palace stays intact after he is dead and forgotten.

Putin won't nuke there. He'll nuke the U.S.
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Zero chance of that. He’d nuke something in Ukraine if he were going to use a nuclear weapon. Nuking the US leaves America no other option but nuking the Russian homeland—-likely a decapitation strike that Nukes Moscow until it glows in the dark. If it gets to that point—-your clearly better off negotiating with anyone other than an off the rails Putin.

That said—Putin isn’t using nukes unless the existence of the Russian state is threatened—-and nobody is interested in even considering that. Nuclear armed nations are basically like massive “too big to fail” banks. Nobody is going to attack them because there is no point as long as they have a that nuclear trump card. That’s why all this Russian “security” talk is is a smoke screen. Nothing they can do with their borders comes close to the security guarantee they already have due to their massive nuclear arsenal. This war is about Putins vanity and nothing more. He wants to be a modern Katherine the Great.

I would like to point out the thread on this forum

Biden administration quietly stockpiles 'nuclear emergency' drugs

They have also been running public service ads in the NYC area about what to do in case of a nuclear attack.

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