Can Cig do it with a 3rd QB in a row? He produced quantum leap improvement with the Nooch and then with Cojo from their junior to senior season. Can he do the same with TC in his super senior year?

If so, he will be the goat of QB whisperers as this may be the most challenging project. Of 130 FBS QB’s TC was rated 80th last year as a Senior. Will Cig find the magic again and reduce QB turnovers while increasing completion rate? And all this while facing 10 FBS opponents?

I’m hoping for more running and less passing from TC this year. Even if some of that running is from a pass play that results in a scramble run. For this to be a surprisingly successful year at JMU, TC will need to play much better than he ever has and I don’t see any reason why he can’t rush for 50+ yards per game if given the green light. He is shifty enough to avoid the rush and he is built more like a RB than a QB anyway. He is essentially a rent-a-QB for one year and JMU is not eligible for post season so why not let him run wild? If he gets dinged up, so what? There are 2 Qb’s behind him that need plenty of game experience anyway to prep for next year when the stakes are much higher.

Of the passing success TC had last year, most was to a QB’s best friend…a TE. Tre McBride led the nation in TE receptions/yards and was drafted in the 2nd round. 90 catches, 1100 yards. I don’t think JMU has any standout receiving TE’s on the roster, but someone may need to step up if TC is going to default to short easy passes over the middle.
3 Sun Belt opponents were amongst the worst pass defenses in the nation last year (Texas St, Arkansas St, Georgia Southern). The rest of the FBS slate should provide the challenge for Cig to solve. IMO, JMU’s record in the transition year will be directly proportional to the improvement Cig can get out of TC.

Can he do it?

While Cignetti deserves credit, don't forget to give credit to Sunseri. He is a phenomenal coach and was a big part of Cole's development.
I hope we are able to keep him around for a while. Sunseri is the real deal.

(08-31-2022 09:57 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  While Cignetti deserves credit, don't forget to give credit to Sunseri. He is a phenomenal coach and was a big part of Cole's development.
I hope we are able to keep him around for a while. Sunseri is the real deal.

Davis Cheek was never the same at Elon after Cignetti left. I do think Sunseri is legit though and a coach on the rise

(08-31-2022 09:43 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Can Cig do it with a 3rd QB in a row? He produced quantum leap improvement with the Nooch and then with Cojo from their junior to senior season. Can he do the same with TC in his super senior year?

If so, he will be the goat of QB whisperers as this may be the most challenging project. Of 130 FBS QB’s TC was rated 80th last year as a Senior. Will Cig find the magic again and reduce QB turnovers while increasing completion rate? And all this while facing 10 FBS opponents?

I’m hoping for more running and less passing from TC this year. Even if some of that running is from a pass play that results in a scramble run. For this to be a surprisingly successful year at JMU, TC will need to play much better than he ever has and I don’t see any reason why he can’t rush for 50+ yards per game if given the green light. He is shifty enough to avoid the rush and he is built more like a RB than a QB anyway. He is essentially a rent-a-QB for one year and JMU is not eligible for post season so why not let him run wild? If he gets dinged up, so what? There are 2 Qb’s behind him that need plenty of game experience anyway to prep for next year when the stakes are much higher.

Of the passing success TC had last year, most was to a QB’s best friend…a TE. Tre McBride led the nation in TE receptions/yards and was drafted in the 2nd round. 90 catches, 1100 yards. I don’t think JMU has any standout receiving TE’s on the roster, but someone may need to step up if TC is going to default to short easy passes over the middle.
3 Sun Belt opponents were amongst the worst pass defenses in the nation last year (Texas St, Arkansas St, Georgia Southern). The rest of the FBS slate should provide the challenge for Cig to solve. IMO, JMU’s record in the transition year will be directly proportional to the improvement Cig can get out of TC.

Can he do it?

From what I saw, the O-line was a major problem at Colorado State and TC typically had to run for his life unless he could find McBride quickly. With time for the play to develop, talented receivers, a good running game, I expect a big jump from TC.

I don't think I want him to rush more really, he rushed 131 times(36.8ypg) last season(Dinucci was at 122 his final season here). I do expect his rushes to be better thanks to the rest of the offense taking pressure off him and the O-line being better and he could probably hit that 50+ypg if we need his legs.

Thx Hart.... encouraging to hear he may like using the TE ...they don't need to be acrobatic catches...just over the middle and rumble on

(09-01-2022 10:25 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  

(08-31-2022 09:43 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Can Cig do it with a 3rd QB in a row? He produced quantum leap improvement with the Nooch and then with Cojo from their junior to senior season. Can he do the same with TC in his super senior year?

If so, he will be the goat of QB whisperers as this may be the most challenging project. Of 130 FBS QB’s TC was rated 80th last year as a Senior. Will Cig find the magic again and reduce QB turnovers while increasing completion rate? And all this while facing 10 FBS opponents?

I’m hoping for more running and less passing from TC this year. Even if some of that running is from a pass play that results in a scramble run. For this to be a surprisingly successful year at JMU, TC will need to play much better than he ever has and I don’t see any reason why he can’t rush for 50+ yards per game if given the green light. He is shifty enough to avoid the rush and he is built more like a RB than a QB anyway. He is essentially a rent-a-QB for one year and JMU is not eligible for post season so why not let him run wild? If he gets dinged up, so what? There are 2 Qb’s behind him that need plenty of game experience anyway to prep for next year when the stakes are much higher.

Of the passing success TC had last year, most was to a QB’s best friend…a TE. Tre McBride led the nation in TE receptions/yards and was drafted in the 2nd round. 90 catches, 1100 yards. I don’t think JMU has any standout receiving TE’s on the roster, but someone may need to step up if TC is going to default to short easy passes over the middle.
3 Sun Belt opponents were amongst the worst pass defenses in the nation last year (Texas St, Arkansas St, Georgia Southern). The rest of the FBS slate should provide the challenge for Cig to solve. IMO, JMU’s record in the transition year will be directly proportional to the improvement Cig can get out of TC.

Can he do it?

From what I saw, the O-line was a major problem at Colorado State and TC typically had to run for his life unless he could find McBride quickly. With time for the play to develop, talented receivers, a good running game, I expect a big jump from TC.

I don't think I want him to rush more really, he rushed 131 times(36.8ypg) last season(Dinucci was at 122 his final season here). I do expect his rushes to be better thanks to the rest of the offense taking pressure off him and the O-line being better and he could probably hit that 50+ypg if we need his legs.

I think what Cig did with Cole will hopefully be similar to what he does with Centeio.
I don't think he'll be running that much and will probably be more like a pocket passer. I am really hoping the oline is much improved and if they are I think that bodes very well for Centeio.
Also, there was an interview with Percy a few days ago and said that Shanahan has been adding more to the offensive plan than he did last year. Not sure exactly what that will lead to, but hopefully it will make the offense harder to defend.

(08-31-2022 09:43 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Can Cig do it with a 3rd QB in a row? He produced quantum leap improvement with the Nooch and then with Cojo from their junior to senior season. Can he do the same with TC in his super senior year?

If so, he will be the goat of QB whisperers as this may be the most challenging project. Of 130 FBS QB’s TC was rated 80th last year as a Senior. Will Cig find the magic again and reduce QB turnovers while increasing completion rate? And all this while facing 10 FBS opponents?

I’m hoping for more running and less passing from TC this year. Even if some of that running is from a pass play that results in a scramble run. For this to be a surprisingly successful year at JMU, TC will need to play much better than he ever has and I don’t see any reason why he can’t rush for 50+ yards per game if given the green light. He is shifty enough to avoid the rush and he is built more like a RB than a QB anyway. He is essentially a rent-a-QB for one year and JMU is not eligible for post season so why not let him run wild? If he gets dinged up, so what? There are 2 Qb’s behind him that need plenty of game experience anyway to prep for next year when the stakes are much higher.

Of the passing success TC had last year, most was to a QB’s best friend…a TE. Tre McBride led the nation in TE receptions/yards and was drafted in the 2nd round. 90 catches, 1100 yards. I don’t think JMU has any standout receiving TE’s on the roster, but someone may need to step up if TC is going to default to short easy passes over the middle.
3 Sun Belt opponents were amongst the worst pass defenses in the nation last year (Texas St, Arkansas St, Georgia Southern). The rest of the FBS slate should provide the challenge for Cig to solve. IMO, JMU’s record in the transition year will be directly proportional to the improvement Cig can get out of TC.

Can he do it?

History says he can and will!

Good start to whisperer 3.0
Lots of QB running both on designed runs and on scrambles. Keep on running and the Dukes will be able to compete in every game this year.
Passing was probably as good as it will be all year long. The bar is very high now after that great performance.

JMU did not use the TE at all yesterday except as an additional blocker. We’ll see how that progresses as JMU sets up some play action passes in future games to a TE running free after a fake block.

I think it was possibly the best QB start anyone could have expected as JMU transitions to FBS.

Very often, a transfer QB will develop a strong relationship with a particular WR when joining a new team. Maybe one that was particularly helpful to him as he eased into the new team. Sometimes it's because they practiced together on their own. However it happened, it was obvious that Centeio and Thornton work very well together. Thornton was targeted a whopping 19 times yesterday in the first 3 quarters.

I thought I saw shades of Vad Lee! Great dual threat Quarterback

(09-04-2022 08:29 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Good start to whisperer 3.0
Lots of QB running both on designed runs and on scrambles. Keep on running and the Dukes will be able to compete in every game this year.
Passing was probably as good as it will be all year long. The bar is very high now after that great performance.

JMU did not use the TE at all yesterday except as an additional blocker. We’ll see how that progresses as JMU sets up some play action passes in future games to a TE running free after a fake block.

I think it was possibly the best QB start anyone could have expected as JMU transitions to FBS.

I don’t particularly remember any “scrambles”…my impression TC’s runs were all the result of run-pass options. TC play evoked shades of Vad Lee and/or Rodney Landers…with TC perhaps being a bit faster than Rodney at about the same size of 220#, but with a much better arm.

If TC, OL and WRs stay healthy this JMU team will make some real noise this year.

All great stuff ... Just gotta use the TE more (at all) and a few pump fakes will go a long way against better teams

Given the inherent injury risk of having a QB run, I'd like it if they could rely on that a little less. Great to see, but if there are other ways to get yards, I'd rather try to use those a little more.

(09-04-2022 11:35 PM)94computerguy Wrote:  Given the inherent injury risk of having a QB run, I'd like it if they could rely on that a little less. Great to see, but if there are other ways to get yards, I'd rather try to use those a little more.

Not sure why Cig would hold him back at all. TC is a one year rent-a-QB. There is no saving him for next year and there is no postseason to play for this year. Let him empty the tank and give JMU its best chance to win in every game this year. If he ran 14 times in a blowout game against a weak opponent, I think it is safe to say he will be running alot especially when JMU needs offense against better defenses.

The worst thing that can happen is he gets dinged up and Atkins or Barnett get lots of game reps in preparation for next year when JMU is eligible to win the Sun Belt and participate in post season.

Mickey Matthews says we should run more

I don't understand it when teams don't use the TE for a few 8 yard passes.

ODU barely passed to their 6'8" 260 all conference TE last week.

(09-01-2022 10:25 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  

(08-31-2022 09:43 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Can Cig do it with a 3rd QB in a row? He produced quantum leap improvement with the Nooch and then with Cojo from their junior to senior season. Can he do the same with TC in his super senior year?

If so, he will be the goat of QB whisperers as this may be the most challenging project. Of 130 FBS QB’s TC was rated 80th last year as a Senior. Will Cig find the magic again and reduce QB turnovers while increasing completion rate? And all this while facing 10 FBS opponents?

I’m hoping for more running and less passing from TC this year. Even if some of that running is from a pass play that results in a scramble run. For this to be a surprisingly successful year at JMU, TC will need to play much better than he ever has and I don’t see any reason why he can’t rush for 50+ yards per game if given the green light. He is shifty enough to avoid the rush and he is built more like a RB than a QB anyway. He is essentially a rent-a-QB for one year and JMU is not eligible for post season so why not let him run wild? If he gets dinged up, so what? There are 2 Qb’s behind him that need plenty of game experience anyway to prep for next year when the stakes are much higher.

Of the passing success TC had last year, most was to a QB’s best friend…a TE. Tre McBride led the nation in TE receptions/yards and was drafted in the 2nd round. 90 catches, 1100 yards. I don’t think JMU has any standout receiving TE’s on the roster, but someone may need to step up if TC is going to default to short easy passes over the middle.
3 Sun Belt opponents were amongst the worst pass defenses in the nation last year (Texas St, Arkansas St, Georgia Southern). The rest of the FBS slate should provide the challenge for Cig to solve. IMO, JMU’s record in the transition year will be directly proportional to the improvement Cig can get out of TC.

Can he do it?

From what I saw, the O-line was a major problem at Colorado State and TC typically had to run for his life unless he could find McBride quickly. With time for the play to develop, talented receivers, a good running game, I expect a big jump from TC.

I don't think I want him to rush more really, he rushed 131 times(36.8ypg) last season(Dinucci was at 122 his final season here). I do expect his rushes to be better thanks to the rest of the offense taking pressure off him and the O-line being better and he could probably hit that 50+ypg if we need his legs.

Just want to reiterate, CSU is trash and TC was one of the few bright spots they had.

(09-10-2022 09:21 PM)JMU08 Wrote:  

(09-01-2022 10:25 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  

(08-31-2022 09:43 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Can Cig do it with a 3rd QB in a row? He produced quantum leap improvement with the Nooch and then with Cojo from their junior to senior season. Can he do the same with TC in his super senior year?

If so, he will be the goat of QB whisperers as this may be the most challenging project. Of 130 FBS QB’s TC was rated 80th last year as a Senior. Will Cig find the magic again and reduce QB turnovers while increasing completion rate? And all this while facing 10 FBS opponents?

I’m hoping for more running and less passing from TC this year. Even if some of that running is from a pass play that results in a scramble run. For this to be a surprisingly successful year at JMU, TC will need to play much better than he ever has and I don’t see any reason why he can’t rush for 50+ yards per game if given the green light. He is shifty enough to avoid the rush and he is built more like a RB than a QB anyway. He is essentially a rent-a-QB for one year and JMU is not eligible for post season so why not let him run wild? If he gets dinged up, so what? There are 2 Qb’s behind him that need plenty of game experience anyway to prep for next year when the stakes are much higher.

Of the passing success TC had last year, most was to a QB’s best friend…a TE. Tre McBride led the nation in TE receptions/yards and was drafted in the 2nd round. 90 catches, 1100 yards. I don’t think JMU has any standout receiving TE’s on the roster, but someone may need to step up if TC is going to default to short easy passes over the middle.
3 Sun Belt opponents were amongst the worst pass defenses in the nation last year (Texas St, Arkansas St, Georgia Southern). The rest of the FBS slate should provide the challenge for Cig to solve. IMO, JMU’s record in the transition year will be directly proportional to the improvement Cig can get out of TC.

Can he do it?

From what I saw, the O-line was a major problem at Colorado State and TC typically had to run for his life unless he could find McBride quickly. With time for the play to develop, talented receivers, a good running game, I expect a big jump from TC.

I don't think I want him to rush more really, he rushed 131 times(36.8ypg) last season(Dinucci was at 122 his final season here). I do expect his rushes to be better thanks to the rest of the offense taking pressure off him and the O-line being better and he could probably hit that 50+ypg if we need his legs.

Just want to reiterate, CSU is trash and TC was one of the few bright spots they had.

Yes! A few scary passes early again. It looks like chemistry issues, receivers breaking the wrong way, etc. (again, I hate the bye week and the game experience we sacrifice)

We are still passing a little more than I think we need to, but Cig has his methods and manners and I trust him.

We are looking very good right now. Two weeks from today will tell us just how good we are. I believe we are VERY good! If we beat App (I predict we won't due to the bye), then I think we win the division.

Go, Dawgs!

He missed a few throws early, throwing behind or wide of the receivers, but 2nd week in a row he settled down and found his groove. Also, good to see him take less hard hits today; the way he played last week made me wonder how long it would be until the injuries start.

Does the QB whisperer have TC ready to play big time competition on the road? Today is the litmus test to see if he can eliminate turnovers against a good opponent. Weeks one and two were turnover free against bad defenses in a calm & comfy home environment.

Will he be as poised today in a mountain madhouse?

Hopefully he relies on his running to get easy chunk plays coming out of designed passes that turn into tuck & run. App State nor most defenses have an answer for a QB that is willing and able to run out of the pocket. It is a DC’s nightmare and I’m guessing they will put a spy on him to try to force throws when he scrambles or when he has RPO option.

Prop bet for 15 rushes and 75 yards

(09-24-2022 04:26 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Does the QB whisperer have TC ready to play big time competition on the road? Today is the litmus test to see if he can eliminate turnovers against a good opponent. Weeks one and two were turnover free against bad defenses in a calm & comfy home environment.

Will he be as poised today in a mountain madhouse?

Might be his first road game in the SBC but he’s played on the road against decent teams in the past. Last season he played ok leading a very overmatched CSU to play in front of 65000 Iowa fans, they’re big time and have rabid fans. Also played against decent programs while at Temple..