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The blind-faith Prater fandom is a fascinating look into the psychology of a Cincinnatian IMO. It really is nutty.

The only thing the man has done in a Red and Black jersey is throw 2 TDs against 3rd teamers, 1 pick (with two more straight between the numbers of defenders) for a TD, have a sub-50% completion percentage, and have one run where he was flipped upside by a defender into the endzone in mop-up duty.

If the kid was from anywhere but inside the 275 loop, there likely wouldn't be many, if any fans caring about him not starting...hell we saw the same kind of player in a pre-injury Munchie Leguax, who many, if not all, fans were calling for the axe in favor of Brendan Kay. Just my two cents.

Bryant will get the lion's share of any game-worthy opportunities until he gives the coaches a reason not to, and the game at Arkansas did not give any reason not to.

(09-09-2022 06:53 AM)Cal1362 Wrote:  

(09-08-2022 07:37 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Anything les than a 28 point win will be a loss.

I disagree... if the Bearcats win comfortably and the 2s and 3s play the majority of the 2nd half... especially EP... then it's a great W, especially against a triple option team that will use a ton of clock when they have the ball. The 'Cats aren't playing for the CFP at this point (barring some really wild stuff), they are playing #1 for the AAC CG and #2 for the G5 spot in the NY6 bowl. The 'Cats need to work on depth experience, coverage for Renfro and as CLF said, playing clean.

Totally agree. 1st team scores 28-35 in the first half, then play the 2nd+-3rd teams the second half. Going to need that game experience later in the year.

(09-09-2022 08:03 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  The blind-faith Prater fandom is a fascinating look into the psychology of a Cincinnatian IMO. It really is nutty.

The only thing the man has done in a Red and Black jersey is throw 2 TDs against 3rd teamers, 1 pick (with two more straight between the numbers of defenders) for a TD, have a sub-50% completion percentage, and have one run where he was flipped upside by a defender into the endzone in mop-up duty.

If the kid was from anywhere but inside the 275 loop, there likely wouldn't be many, if any fans caring about him not starting...hell we saw the same kind of player in a pre-injury Munchie Leguax, who many, if not all, fans were calling for the axe in favor of Brendan Kay. Just my two cents.

Bryant will get the lion's share of any game-worthy opportunities until he gives the coaches a reason not to, and the game at Arkansas did not give any reason not to.

Cincinnati fans are bananas in general. I've learned to ignore nonsense whether it be collegiate or professional in this city.

(09-09-2022 08:20 AM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 08:03 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  The blind-faith Prater fandom is a fascinating look into the psychology of a Cincinnatian IMO. It really is nutty.

The only thing the man has done in a Red and Black jersey is throw 2 TDs against 3rd teamers, 1 pick (with two more straight between the numbers of defenders) for a TD, have a sub-50% completion percentage, and have one run where he was flipped upside by a defender into the endzone in mop-up duty.

If the kid was from anywhere but inside the 275 loop, there likely wouldn't be many, if any fans caring about him not starting...hell we saw the same kind of player in a pre-injury Munchie Leguax, who many, if not all, fans were calling for the axe in favor of Brendan Kay. Just my two cents.

Bryant will get the lion's share of any game-worthy opportunities until he gives the coaches a reason not to, and the game at Arkansas did not give any reason not to.

Cincinnati fans are bananas in general. I've learned to ignore nonsense whether it be collegiate or professional in this city.

Prater was a highly ranked recruit which contributes to this as well. Ben is probably going to be the guy all year and will put up huge numbers against AAC defenses.

(09-09-2022 08:03 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  The blind-faith Prater fandom is a fascinating look into the psychology of a Cincinnatian IMO. It really is nutty.

The only thing the man has done in a Red and Black jersey is throw 2 TDs against 3rd teamers, 1 pick (with two more straight between the numbers of defenders) for a TD, have a sub-50% completion percentage, and have one run where he was flipped upside by a defender into the endzone in mop-up duty.

If the kid was from anywhere but inside the 275 loop, there likely wouldn't be many, if any fans caring about him not starting...hell we saw the same kind of player in a pre-injury Munchie Leguax, who many, if not all, fans were calling for the axe in favor of Brendan Kay. Just my two cents.

Bryant will get the lion's share of any game-worthy opportunities until he gives the coaches a reason not to, and the game at Arkansas did not give any reason not to.

I posted this earlier, but a lot of people in this community are extremely tribal. They pick one side and claim their guy is not getting a fair shake. I am going to be extremely p.o'd when this happens but I guarantee you there will be boos for Ben Bryant at Nippert at some point this season and that when Evan comes in the stadium will erupt.

(09-09-2022 08:27 AM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 08:20 AM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 08:03 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  The blind-faith Prater fandom is a fascinating look into the psychology of a Cincinnatian IMO. It really is nutty.

The only thing the man has done in a Red and Black jersey is throw 2 TDs against 3rd teamers, 1 pick (with two more straight between the numbers of defenders) for a TD, have a sub-50% completion percentage, and have one run where he was flipped upside by a defender into the endzone in mop-up duty.

If the kid was from anywhere but inside the 275 loop, there likely wouldn't be many, if any fans caring about him not starting...hell we saw the same kind of player in a pre-injury Munchie Leguax, who many, if not all, fans were calling for the axe in favor of Brendan Kay. Just my two cents.

Bryant will get the lion's share of any game-worthy opportunities until he gives the coaches a reason not to, and the game at Arkansas did not give any reason not to.

Cincinnati fans are bananas in general. I've learned to ignore nonsense whether it be collegiate or professional in this city.

Prater was a highly ranked recruit which contributes to this as well. Ben is probably going to be the guy all year and will put up huge numbers against AAC defenses.

Not all of us locals. I understand he gained his rating vs:
Indian Hill
Deer Park
Mariemont
Madeira
etc.

Had he played at Moeller, Elder, St. X, Colerain,etc. different story.

SPORTS FANS ARE NUTS

Seriously sports turn a huge portion of our culture into absolute morons. just like most fans instantly blame the refs and cheating after every loss, most fanbases are also homers for their local talent. Thats not just a Cincinnati thing. When you add in EP being our highest ever recruit, of course tons of fans are going to want to see him get a shot. [/align]

I don't care who the quarterback is. I just want the quarterback to throw very few interceptions and connect with a majority of the wide open receivers.

I am not attached to Prater in any way.

I was just not impressed with what I saw out of Bryant last Saturday.

I really feel that if we had better QB play last weekend we walk out of there with the win (I know penalties and other mistakes hurt, but to my eyes it was the QB play that played the biggest role in the loss).

I have no idea if Prater would give the team a better chance or not.

He is an unknown entity who was a highly ranked recruit coming out of high school.

The program, and many on here at the time, were touting him as high level talent. We didn't build him up as high level talent, the program and the journalists who cover the program built him up as high level talent to us.

We were told all summer this year that it was neck and neck, with the main difference being that Bryant is a pocket QB and Prater is a RPO QB.

Bryant clearly is a sub-par runner. When he rolled out inside the 10 yard line he had a fairly easy line to the end zone, but pulled up and was tackled because he didn't think he could beat the defender to the goal line. That should have been a fairly easy score, and he couldn't do it. Is he that poor of an athlete?

I saw enough out of Bryant for me to wonder if Prater is as good as they told us when he was recruited.

Bryant clearly has limitations. We haven't been able to see if Prater has more or less limitations.

It's natural for there to be calls for the backup to play when a starter's performance fails to impress, and plays a big role in the team losing a game.

If Prater isn't the answer, fine. Then we need to seriously upgrade the talent level of our QB's.

If Bryant is the best chance we have, well he is serviceable enough to beat most of the teams on our schedule, but doesn't appear capable of being the player who pushes the team to win against comparable or better competition.

We shouldn't be so content to accept a QB who is, at best, not a big liability to the team.

Maybe Des spoiled me.

But I can think of a half dozen other UC QB's over the last several years who UC would have won with last Saturday, and we ain't exactly QB U.

(09-09-2022 09:40 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  I don't care who the quarterback is. I just want the quarterback to throw very few interceptions and connect with a majority of the wide open receivers.

Bruce was a little more succinct with his comments.

I should have just posted "what he said"!

The new people running the premium seat program seem to have upgraded the menu. Lots of custom stations including carving station, flatbread station, etc.

(09-09-2022 09:40 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  I don't care who the quarterback is. I just want the quarterback to throw very few interceptions and connect with a majority of the wide open receivers.

Same here.

(09-09-2022 10:28 AM)namrag Wrote:  Bryant clearly is a sub-par runner. When he rolled out inside the 10 yard line he had a fairly easy line to the end zone, but pulled up and was tackled because he didn't think he could beat the defender to the goal line. That should have been a fairly easy score, and he couldn't do it. Is he that poor of an athlete?

Bryant clearly has limitations. We haven't been able to see if Prater has more or less limitations.

But I can think of a half dozen other UC QB's over the last several years who UC would have won with last Saturday, and we ain't exactly QB U.

First paragraph - Bryant isn't being asked to run for scores. He's being asked to throw for ones. You can flip that around and ask can Prater throw for scores once the dee clamps down on the pocket or spies him for running? How many shots should Prater's lean build take if he does take off and run a lot?

Second paragraph - What are his limitations? In terms of throwing he has a cannon arm. He did overthrow several apparent TD throws that seem to be more of a timing and game rhythm issue. The one poor throw was for the early INT during the opening drive. I think it bodes well for him that he came out and played much better for the second half. We saw Ridder have some consistency issues with throwing the ball too.

Third paragraph - Besides Ridder, what half dozen former UC QB's would have won the game on their shoulders? Have we played in as tough a OOC road game as underdogs outside of Columbus? We know how those games ended up.

I don't mean these points to be argumentative. It just shows that there is a clear divide in the fan base and I think it's a shame that it's happened after only the first game. Then again, this Board has been this way since I joined nine years ago. As I've said before, it's all good. This is just part of rooting for your team to win every game.

(09-09-2022 08:39 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 08:03 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  The blind-faith Prater fandom is a fascinating look into the psychology of a Cincinnatian IMO. It really is nutty.

The only thing the man has done in a Red and Black jersey is throw 2 TDs against 3rd teamers, 1 pick (with two more straight between the numbers of defenders) for a TD, have a sub-50% completion percentage, and have one run where he was flipped upside by a defender into the endzone in mop-up duty.

If the kid was from anywhere but inside the 275 loop, there likely wouldn't be many, if any fans caring about him not starting...hell we saw the same kind of player in a pre-injury Munchie Leguax, who many, if not all, fans were calling for the axe in favor of Brendan Kay. Just my two cents.

Bryant will get the lion's share of any game-worthy opportunities until he gives the coaches a reason not to, and the game at Arkansas did not give any reason not to.

I posted this earlier, but a lot of people in this community are extremely tribal. They pick one side and claim their guy is not getting a fair shake. I am going to be extremely p.o'd when this happens but I guarantee you there will be boos for Ben Bryant at Nippert at some point this season and that when Evan comes in the stadium will erupt.

You guys are strawmanning this so.

I don't see anyone with blind faith in Prater. And I don't see any posts that he's not getting a fair shake.

Prater and Bryant were battling for the QB1 position all summer, right? I mean, maybe that was a smokescreen, but they were splitting snaps with the first team right up to the end of camp. You emphasize his poor performance in limited action, but he must have shown someone something to have a shot at the job.

So when Bryant played just OK against Arkansas, it isn't blind faith to say that Prater should get a shot to show himself in the second half of a blowout in game 2. You seem to have a lot undeserved faith in Bryant, IMO. He hasn't done anything in this uniform either, and his time leading EMU to a 4th place finish in the MAC West isn't particularly reassuring.

Oh and enough with the whole, "You think you know better than Luke Fickell?!" It's a message board, and not even Belichick makes the perfect decision every time.

(09-09-2022 01:18 PM)levydl Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 08:39 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 08:03 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  The blind-faith Prater fandom is a fascinating look into the psychology of a Cincinnatian IMO. It really is nutty.

The only thing the man has done in a Red and Black jersey is throw 2 TDs against 3rd teamers, 1 pick (with two more straight between the numbers of defenders) for a TD, have a sub-50% completion percentage, and have one run where he was flipped upside by a defender into the endzone in mop-up duty.

If the kid was from anywhere but inside the 275 loop, there likely wouldn't be many, if any fans caring about him not starting...hell we saw the same kind of player in a pre-injury Munchie Leguax, who many, if not all, fans were calling for the axe in favor of Brendan Kay. Just my two cents.

Bryant will get the lion's share of any game-worthy opportunities until he gives the coaches a reason not to, and the game at Arkansas did not give any reason not to.

I posted this earlier, but a lot of people in this community are extremely tribal. They pick one side and claim their guy is not getting a fair shake. I am going to be extremely p.o'd when this happens but I guarantee you there will be boos for Ben Bryant at Nippert at some point this season and that when Evan comes in the stadium will erupt.

You guys are strawmanning this so.

I don't see anyone with blind faith in Prater. And I don't see any posts that he's not getting a fair shake.

Prater and Bryant were battling for the QB1 position all summer, right? I mean, maybe that was a smokescreen, but they were splitting snaps with the first team right up to the end of camp. You emphasize his poor performance in limited action, but he must have shown someone something to have a shot at the job.

So when Bryant played just OK against Arkansas, it isn't blind faith to say that Prater should get a shot to show himself in the second half of a blowout in game 2. You seem to have a lot undeserved faith in Bryant, IMO. He hasn't done anything in this uniform either, and his time leading EMU to a 4th place finish in the MAC West isn't particularly reassuring.

Oh and enough with the whole, "You think you know better than Luke Fickell?!" It's a message board, and not even Belichick makes the perfect decision every time.

My whole point was to the twitt-niks saying Prater is the better QB (despite most only operating based on old recruiting rankings and highlight videos against D4-6 schools in Ohio) and calling the season over when Bryant was tabbed as the starter prior to the game, not anyone on here. I get wanting to see Prater play, and agree to some extent that he should get significant time in blowouts to at least appease his camp and get him game reps, I just don't get the people doing stuff like what I mentioned.

(09-09-2022 01:26 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 01:18 PM)levydl Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 08:39 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 08:03 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  The blind-faith Prater fandom is a fascinating look into the psychology of a Cincinnatian IMO. It really is nutty.

The only thing the man has done in a Red and Black jersey is throw 2 TDs against 3rd teamers, 1 pick (with two more straight between the numbers of defenders) for a TD, have a sub-50% completion percentage, and have one run where he was flipped upside by a defender into the endzone in mop-up duty.

If the kid was from anywhere but inside the 275 loop, there likely wouldn't be many, if any fans caring about him not starting...hell we saw the same kind of player in a pre-injury Munchie Leguax, who many, if not all, fans were calling for the axe in favor of Brendan Kay. Just my two cents.

Bryant will get the lion's share of any game-worthy opportunities until he gives the coaches a reason not to, and the game at Arkansas did not give any reason not to.

I posted this earlier, but a lot of people in this community are extremely tribal. They pick one side and claim their guy is not getting a fair shake. I am going to be extremely p.o'd when this happens but I guarantee you there will be boos for Ben Bryant at Nippert at some point this season and that when Evan comes in the stadium will erupt.

You guys are strawmanning this so.

I don't see anyone with blind faith in Prater. And I don't see any posts that he's not getting a fair shake.

Prater and Bryant were battling for the QB1 position all summer, right? I mean, maybe that was a smokescreen, but they were splitting snaps with the first team right up to the end of camp. You emphasize his poor performance in limited action, but he must have shown someone something to have a shot at the job.

So when Bryant played just OK against Arkansas, it isn't blind faith to say that Prater should get a shot to show himself in the second half of a blowout in game 2. You seem to have a lot undeserved faith in Bryant, IMO. He hasn't done anything in this uniform either, and his time leading EMU to a 4th place finish in the MAC West isn't particularly reassuring.

Oh and enough with the whole, "You think you know better than Luke Fickell?!" It's a message board, and not even Belichick makes the perfect decision every time.

My whole point was to the twitt-niks saying Prater is the better QB (despite most only operating based on old recruiting rankings and highlight videos against D4-6 schools in Ohio) and calling the season over when Bryant was tabbed as the starter prior to the game, not anyone on here. I get wanting to see Prater play, and agree to some extent that he should get significant time in blowouts to at least appease his camp and get him game reps, I just don't get the people doing stuff like what I mentioned.

+1. The commentary is not as bad on this board as it in on some other social media forums (Facebook, twitter-- ugh).

(09-09-2022 12:25 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 10:28 AM)namrag Wrote:  Bryant clearly is a sub-par runner. When he rolled out inside the 10 yard line he had a fairly easy line to the end zone, but pulled up and was tackled because he didn't think he could beat the defender to the goal line. That should have been a fairly easy score, and he couldn't do it. Is he that poor of an athlete?

Bryant clearly has limitations. We haven't been able to see if Prater has more or less limitations.

But I can think of a half dozen other UC QB's over the last several years who UC would have won with last Saturday, and we ain't exactly QB U.

First paragraph - Bryant isn't being asked to run for scores. He's being asked to throw for ones. You can flip that around and ask can Prater throw for scores once the dee clamps down on the pocket or spies him for running? How many shots should Prater's lean build take if he does take off and run a lot?

Second paragraph - What are his limitations? In terms of throwing he has a cannon arm. He did overthrow several apparent TD throws that seem to be more of a timing and game rhythm issue. The one poor throw was for the early INT during the opening drive. I think it bodes well for him that he came out and played much better for the second half. We saw Ridder have some consistency issues with throwing the ball too.

Third paragraph - Besides Ridder, what half dozen former UC QB's would have won the game on their shoulders? Have we played in as tough a OOC road game as underdogs outside of Columbus? We know how those games ended up.

I don't mean these points to be argumentative. It just shows that there is a clear divide in the fan base and I think it's a shame that it's happened after only the first game. Then again, this Board has been this way since I joined nine years ago. As I've said before, it's all good. This is just part of rooting for your team to win every game.

First paragraph - I understand that Bryant isn't being asked to run. BUT any decent QB should be ABLE to run in situations that call for it. In the play inside the 10 yard line that I mentioned, it appeared that there was enough daylight for a moderately athletic QB to make it to the end zone. I thought Bryant had it until he decided to pull up. That isn't asking him to carry the team with his legs, it is asking him to have average mobility that he can utilize when the opportunity presents.

Still first paragraph - can Prater throw for scores? I don't know. But don't act like Bryant showed that he can either. He overthrew or flat out missed more wide open TD throws than he made last Saturday.

Second paragraph - extremely poor decision making on that INT. Before it even left his hand I could see the defender stepping in on the route. Just a horrible, horrible decision and throw.

In terms of throwing, again, he overthrew or flat out missed more TD's throws than he made. So based on the N of one game, which is all we have with him, his accuracy is poor.

Third paragraph:
-Gunner Keil - dude was a gamer, and a gunslinger. Give him protection and he made things happen.
-Zach Collaros
-Tony Pike
-Ben Mauk
-Gino

I didn't add comments to anyone other than Gunner because the others were such slam dunk answers, compared to Bryant in the ARK game, that there shouldn't even be any debate. With Gunner I could see some debate.

Heck I would throw Hayden Moore in there as well.

All this to say that I don't hate Bryant, and I am rooting for him to turn it around and show that he has it in him.

And the Kennesaw game won't show us anything. UC could throw anyone in there at QB and still win.

(09-09-2022 08:40 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 08:27 AM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 08:20 AM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 08:03 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  The blind-faith Prater fandom is a fascinating look into the psychology of a Cincinnatian IMO. It really is nutty.

The only thing the man has done in a Red and Black jersey is throw 2 TDs against 3rd teamers, 1 pick (with two more straight between the numbers of defenders) for a TD, have a sub-50% completion percentage, and have one run where he was flipped upside by a defender into the endzone in mop-up duty.

If the kid was from anywhere but inside the 275 loop, there likely wouldn't be many, if any fans caring about him not starting...hell we saw the same kind of player in a pre-injury Munchie Leguax, who many, if not all, fans were calling for the axe in favor of Brendan Kay. Just my two cents.

Bryant will get the lion's share of any game-worthy opportunities until he gives the coaches a reason not to, and the game at Arkansas did not give any reason not to.

Cincinnati fans are bananas in general. I've learned to ignore nonsense whether it be collegiate or professional in this city.

Prater was a highly ranked recruit which contributes to this as well. Ben is probably going to be the guy all year and will put up huge numbers against AAC defenses.

Not all of us locals. I understand he gained his rating vs:
Indian Hill
Deer Park
Mariemont
Madeira
etc.

Had he played at Moeller, Elder, St. X, Colerain,etc. different story.

I said the same thing about Mr Kiner and got roasted on here for it.

(09-09-2022 02:08 PM)namrag Wrote:  First paragraph - I understand that Bryant isn't being asked to run. BUT any decent QB should be ABLE to run in situations that call for it. In the play inside the 10 yard line that I mentioned, it appeared that there was enough daylight for a moderately athletic QB to make it to the end zone. I thought Bryant had it until he decided to pull up. That isn't asking him to carry the team with his legs, it is asking him to have average mobility that he can utilize when the opportunity presents.

Did he not run in a TD against Memphis in the last game of the season the year Ridder sat out due to injury? Let's not act like he can't run at ALL. In terms of the play you're talking about, I'd have to go back and look at the film but was he still trying to throw to someone getting open and by the time that took he ran out of room to run? Where were the defenders on that play?

(09-09-2022 02:08 PM)namrag Wrote:  In terms of throwing, again, he overthrew or flat out missed more TD's throws than he made. So based on the N of one game, which is all we have with him, his accuracy is poor.

Exactly. ONE GAME. You're saying that he has limitations based on the performance of ONE GAME. Here's his stats line:

26/43 [61%] 325 YDS 2 TD 1 INT

That is just a shiitty, limited performance.

(09-09-2022 02:08 PM)namrag Wrote:  -Gunner Keil - dude was a gamer, and a gunslinger. Give him protection and he made things happen.
-Zach Collaros
-Tony Pike
-Ben Mauk
-Gino

Heck I would throw Hayden Moore in there as well.

Dude. If you really believe Hayden Moore is a better QB then you are fishing on the river in Egypt. AGAIN, did any of those QB's face a ranked SEC team in a hostile, noise blowing stadium as an underdog? Did Pike beat Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl? Did he play well against Florida? Gunner overthrew receivers and threw a lot of pics. Collaros was a mixed bag of throwing and running and had injuries. Now, Ben Mauk was damn good but I go back to your comment about a half dozen QB's could have won the game in Fayetteville. BM is a solid possibility but you're exaggerating on the other ones as far as I'm concerned.

(09-09-2022 02:25 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(09-09-2022 02:08 PM)namrag Wrote:  First paragraph - I understand that Bryant isn't being asked to run. BUT any decent QB should be ABLE to run in situations that call for it. In the play inside the 10 yard line that I mentioned, it appeared that there was enough daylight for a moderately athletic QB to make it to the end zone. I thought Bryant had it until he decided to pull up. That isn't asking him to carry the team with his legs, it is asking him to have average mobility that he can utilize when the opportunity presents.

Did he not run in a TD against Memphis in the last game of the season the year Ridder sat out due to injury? Let's not act like he can't run at ALL. In terms of the play you're talking about, I'd have to go back and look at the film but was he still trying to throw to someone getting open and by the time that took he ran out of room to run? Where were the defenders on that play?

(09-09-2022 02:08 PM)namrag Wrote:  In terms of throwing, again, he overthrew or flat out missed more TD's throws than he made. So based on the N of one game, which is all we have with him, his accuracy is poor.

Exactly. ONE GAME. You're saying that he has limitations based on the performance of ONE GAME. Here's his stats line:

26/43 [61%] 325 YDS 2 TD 1 INT

That is just a shiitty, limited performance.

(09-09-2022 02:08 PM)namrag Wrote:  -Gunner Keil - dude was a gamer, and a gunslinger. Give him protection and he made things happen.
-Zach Collaros
-Tony Pike
-Ben Mauk
-Gino

Heck I would throw Hayden Moore in there as well.

Dude. If you really believe Hayden Moore is a better QB then you are fishing on the river in Egypt. AGAIN, did any of those QB's face a ranked SEC team in a hostile, noise blowing stadium as an underdog? Did Pike beat Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl? Did he play well against Florida? Gunner overthrew receivers and threw a lot of pics. Collaros was a mixed bag of throwing and running and had injuries. Now, Ben Mauk was damn good but I go back to your comment about a half dozen QB's could have won the game in Fayetteville. BM is a solid possibility but you're exaggerating on the other ones as far as I'm concerned.

First paragraph - yes go back and look at that play. I honestly believe I (52yrs old) would have had a chance at making that goal line.

Second paragraph - yes he has one game to critique. and based upon that one game he showed clear limitations. Hopefully he can improve upon them, but that is speculation. Real talk is that in THAT game he had clear limitations that played a big role in taking the loss. his better second half doesn't negate his first half. And he had a few significant overthrows in the 2nd half as well. At the end of the day the stat I am concerned about is win/loss, especially if the QB play has a significant impact on that stat.

Third - Hayden moore might be a reach, but at worst would be at wash at this point compared to what we have seen from Bryant.
Pike - Pike got a call up from the NFL. Bryant will not.
I am not saying the QB's I mentioned are perfect, I am saying that compared to Bryant, I think all of them would have had what it took to win that game. Bryant did not.

Again, I don't hate Bryant and I hope he progresses and becomes and asset to the team.
You say you don't understand the blind faith in Prater, what about your unquestioning faith in Bryant?

We aren't talking about a guy who had one bad game after showing us previously that he can lead a team at a higher level.

That was his one and only performance, and it was sub-par in crucial plays, crucial plays that didn't require Heisman-level ability.

I would think that we all hope that he improves. And if he doesn't, it certainly isn't crazy to want to see if the next guy in might be better suited.