(07-30-2022 06:30 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 05:04 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 04:09 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 10:51 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I always enjoy how much App fans pretend they don’t care about UNCC and then are like moths to a flame to any Charlotte related thread.

App is in a conference with a bunch of FCS powerhouses, bottom level FBS programs with no budgets and some things called Louisiana Monroe and Coastal Carolina. I don't blame them for wanting to hang out here with the cool kids. They're in a league of the last kids picked for the team, the rejects, kids with glasses and buck teeth.

clt says they should go home

Most Appys I know are homeless so.........

clt says they clearly aren’t employed by the time they spend on this chat page

(07-31-2022 06:56 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 06:30 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 05:04 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 04:09 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 10:51 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I always enjoy how much App fans pretend they don’t care about UNCC and then are like moths to a flame to any Charlotte related thread.

App is in a conference with a bunch of FCS powerhouses, bottom level FBS programs with no budgets and some things called Louisiana Monroe and Coastal Carolina. I don't blame them for wanting to hang out here with the cool kids. They're in a league of the last kids picked for the team, the rejects, kids with glasses and buck teeth.

clt says they should go home

Most Appys I know are homeless so.........

clt says they clearly aren’t employed by the time they spend on this chat page

Are you? People claim you have three different active accounts on here, and you don't refute it.

(07-30-2022 04:09 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 10:51 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I always enjoy how much App fans pretend they don’t care about UNCC and then are like moths to a flame to any Charlotte related thread.

App is in a conference with a bunch of FCS powerhouses, bottom level FBS programs with no budgets and some things called Louisiana Monroe and Coastal Carolina. I don't blame them for wanting to hang out here with the cool kids. They're in a league of the last kids picked for the team, the rejects, kids with glasses and buck teeth.

And dominated ECU last year, Shawn Clark was a gentlemen in the second half not showing more of the playbook in that first game.

(07-30-2022 12:01 PM)PSCNiner Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 08:14 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  UNCC as the victim is a great claim here, comical and entertaining as always.

Anyone can start a program what a strange story to fabricate. Imagine App fans claiming you can’t start a program when there are over 15 D1 programs in the state, many of which have no funding. That isn’t difficult, what is difficult is building a new winning program as you’ve found out the hard way.

However I applaud your efforts to deflect from the hubris a fanbase showed upon startup only to field the second worst record in the division. I expected nothing less.

Instead you could argue yes we’ve taken our lumps and our expectations were too lofty for the first decade, but we’ll get there with quality leadership. Your hubris would never allow a humble statement of this nature.

You can continue to spout this bs all you want, but just know those of us who have been on these boards since before Charlotte ever began to even start the football push know that the crap you claim simply did not happen. You have convinced yourself it did after repeating it for so long. I never said you meant we literally couldn't start football, but you and several other App fans routinely told us how we would fail at it, no decent conference would ever want us, we were a suitcase college and lots of other bs. You've been wrong and continue to be wrong. Since you claim so many "uncc" fans claimed our dominance, etc.....please share a few of those for us all to see.

Changing the claim is another great move. Go back to 2013 posts all you want you know it to be true.

Second worst FBS record would be seen by most as a failure. If this is a success congrats!

(07-30-2022 12:01 PM)PSCNiner Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 08:14 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  UNCC as the victim is a great claim here, comical and entertaining as always.

Anyone can start a program what a strange story to fabricate. Imagine App fans claiming you can’t start a program when there are over 15 D1 programs in the state, many of which have no funding. That isn’t difficult, what is difficult is building a new winning program as you’ve found out the hard way.

However I applaud your efforts to deflect from the hubris a fanbase showed upon startup only to field the second worst record in the division. I expected nothing less.

Instead you could argue yes we’ve taken our lumps and our expectations were too lofty for the first decade, but we’ll get there with quality leadership. Your hubris would never allow a humble statement of this nature.

You can continue to spout this bs all you want, but just know those of us who have been on these boards since before Charlotte ever began to even start the football push know that the crap you claim simply did not happen. You have convinced yourself it did after repeating it for so long. I never said you meant we literally couldn't start football, but you and several other App fans routinely told us how we would fail at it, no decent conference would ever want us, we were a suitcase college and lots of other bs. You've been wrong and continue to be wrong. Since you claim so many "uncc" fans claimed our dominance, etc.....please share a few of those for us all to see.

Changing the claim is another great move. Go back to 2013 posts all you want you know it to be true.

Second worst FBS record would be seen by most as a failure. If this is a success congrats!

(07-31-2022 11:53 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 12:01 PM)PSCNiner Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 08:14 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  UNCC as the victim is a great claim here, comical and entertaining as always.

Anyone can start a program what a strange story to fabricate. Imagine App fans claiming you can’t start a program when there are over 15 D1 programs in the state, many of which have no funding. That isn’t difficult, what is difficult is building a new winning program as you’ve found out the hard way.

However I applaud your efforts to deflect from the hubris a fanbase showed upon startup only to field the second worst record in the division. I expected nothing less.

Instead you could argue yes we’ve taken our lumps and our expectations were too lofty for the first decade, but we’ll get there with quality leadership. Your hubris would never allow a humble statement of this nature.

You can continue to spout this bs all you want, but just know those of us who have been on these boards since before Charlotte ever began to even start the football push know that the crap you claim simply did not happen. You have convinced yourself it did after repeating it for so long. I never said you meant we literally couldn't start football, but you and several other App fans routinely told us how we would fail at it, no decent conference would ever want us, we were a suitcase college and lots of other bs. You've been wrong and continue to be wrong. Since you claim so many "uncc" fans claimed our dominance, etc.....please share a few of those for us all to see.

Changing the claim is another great move. Go back to 2013 posts all you want you know it to be true.

Second worst FBS record would be seen by most as a failure. If this is a success congrats!

Again, show the posts.....any of them.......liar.....as for our all time record, it's not 2nd worst.....that would be your conference mate GA. State......also, I think considering your comparing our FIRST 9 seasons MIGHT just have something to do with our record. With just a few exceptions, most newer programs are closest to the bottom in winning percentage.....but of course, you know that.

(07-31-2022 11:49 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 04:09 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 10:51 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I always enjoy how much App fans pretend they don’t care about UNCC and then are like moths to a flame to any Charlotte related thread.

App is in a conference with a bunch of FCS powerhouses, bottom level FBS programs with no budgets and some things called Louisiana Monroe and Coastal Carolina. I don't blame them for wanting to hang out here with the cool kids. They're in a league of the last kids picked for the team, the rejects, kids with glasses and buck teeth.

And dominated ECU last year, Shawn Clark was a gentlemen in the second half not showing more of the playbook in that first game.

Meh. Even a blind squirrel busts a nut every once in a while. Or something like that.

clt says the appy fans can discuss Jon Gilbert on the lowly sunbelt chat page. That would be great!

(07-28-2022 08:42 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(07-27-2022 10:45 AM)ODU-Z8 Wrote:  You could have App St, ODU, and Coastal as your rivals every year. 2 with football success, 2 with baseball success. 0 with third-person posters

I for one am not anti sun belt. I don't think we should go there today, but I can see a world where it's our best path

Agreed - it will make sense when the contracts are renewed many years from now and the financial advantage is no longer an issue. The SBC East would have intense rivalries for ECU - and all members in the division.

(07-31-2022 08:14 PM)Monarch Pride Wrote:  

(07-28-2022 08:42 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(07-27-2022 10:45 AM)ODU-Z8 Wrote:  You could have App St, ODU, and Coastal as your rivals every year. 2 with football success, 2 with baseball success. 0 with third-person posters

I for one am not anti sun belt. I don't think we should go there today, but I can see a world where it's our best path

Agreed - it will make sense when the contracts are renewed many years from now and the financial advantage is no longer an issue. The SBC East would have intense rivalries for ECU - and all members in the division.

AAC deal would have to fall a lot, and SBC deal would have a very long way to go. SBC just went on a run that will be near impossible to repeat without another pandemic, and just re-signed at (reportedly) $2m. AAC fell out of power/autonomy status and gets over 3x that. It's like the AAC expecting to pass the ACC in the next cycle.

(08-01-2022 06:24 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-31-2022 08:14 PM)Monarch Pride Wrote:  

(07-28-2022 08:42 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(07-27-2022 10:45 AM)ODU-Z8 Wrote:  You could have App St, ODU, and Coastal as your rivals every year. 2 with football success, 2 with baseball success. 0 with third-person posters

I for one am not anti sun belt. I don't think we should go there today, but I can see a world where it's our best path

Agreed - it will make sense when the contracts are renewed many years from now and the financial advantage is no longer an issue. The SBC East would have intense rivalries for ECU - and all members in the division.

AAC deal would have to fall a lot, and SBC deal would have a very long way to go. SBC just went on a run that will be near impossible to repeat without another pandemic, and just re-signed at (reportedly) $2m. AAC fell out of power/autonomy status and gets over 3x that. It's like the AAC expecting to pass the ACC in the next cycle.

~$20M gap =/= $5M gap

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Must not be much to talk about over on the Sun Belt board.

(08-01-2022 06:24 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-31-2022 08:14 PM)Monarch Pride Wrote:  

(07-28-2022 08:42 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(07-27-2022 10:45 AM)ODU-Z8 Wrote:  You could have App St, ODU, and Coastal as your rivals every year. 2 with football success, 2 with baseball success. 0 with third-person posters

I for one am not anti sun belt. I don't think we should go there today, but I can see a world where it's our best path

Agreed - it will make sense when the contracts are renewed many years from now and the financial advantage is no longer an issue. The SBC East would have intense rivalries for ECU - and all members in the division.

AAC deal would have to fall a lot, and SBC deal would have a very long way to go. SBC just went on a run that will be near impossible to repeat without another pandemic, and just re-signed at (reportedly) $2m. AAC fell out of power/autonomy status and gets over 3x that. It's like the AAC expecting to pass the ACC in the next cycle.

FYI we have no idea what the new AAC valuation is. (reportedly) to be 8 Full 6 half. Which is a little more $5MM average payout. It could certainly be less. I think keeping almost half your league at a discounted payout would be way worse than accepting a 25%haircut across the board, but I tguess the rest of the AAC understands that they are likely to lose one or more top performers to realignment and every decision is based on the legacy members cashing in as much as possible before the bottom falls out.

(07-31-2022 03:22 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  

(07-31-2022 11:49 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 04:09 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 10:51 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I always enjoy how much App fans pretend they don’t care about UNCC and then are like moths to a flame to any Charlotte related thread.

App is in a conference with a bunch of FCS powerhouses, bottom level FBS programs with no budgets and some things called Louisiana Monroe and Coastal Carolina. I don't blame them for wanting to hang out here with the cool kids. They're in a league of the last kids picked for the team, the rejects, kids with glasses and buck teeth.

And dominated ECU last year, Shawn Clark was a gentlemen in the second half not showing more of the playbook in that first game.

Meh. Even a blind squirrel busts a nut every once in a while. Or something like that.

Exactly. I want them to keep that same energy in 2023 when we roll into Boone. Shawn Clark will definitely need his entire playbook for that game.

(08-01-2022 06:41 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 06:24 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-31-2022 08:14 PM)Monarch Pride Wrote:  

(07-28-2022 08:42 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(07-27-2022 10:45 AM)ODU-Z8 Wrote:  You could have App St, ODU, and Coastal as your rivals every year. 2 with football success, 2 with baseball success. 0 with third-person posters

I for one am not anti sun belt. I don't think we should go there today, but I can see a world where it's our best path

Agreed - it will make sense when the contracts are renewed many years from now and the financial advantage is no longer an issue. The SBC East would have intense rivalries for ECU - and all members in the division.

AAC deal would have to fall a lot, and SBC deal would have a very long way to go. SBC just went on a run that will be near impossible to repeat without another pandemic, and just re-signed at (reportedly) $2m. AAC fell out of power/autonomy status and gets over 3x that. It's like the AAC expecting to pass the ACC in the next cycle.

~$20M gap =/= $5M gap

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Was looking at the multiple of 3.5x

(08-01-2022 08:35 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(07-31-2022 03:22 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  

(07-31-2022 11:49 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 04:09 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 10:51 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I always enjoy how much App fans pretend they don’t care about UNCC and then are like moths to a flame to any Charlotte related thread.

App is in a conference with a bunch of FCS powerhouses, bottom level FBS programs with no budgets and some things called Louisiana Monroe and Coastal Carolina. I don't blame them for wanting to hang out here with the cool kids. They're in a league of the last kids picked for the team, the rejects, kids with glasses and buck teeth.

And dominated ECU last year, Shawn Clark was a gentlemen in the second half not showing more of the playbook in that first game.

Meh. Even a blind squirrel busts a nut every once in a while. Or something like that.

Exactly. I want them to keep that same energy in 2023 when we roll into Boone. Shawn Clark will definitely need his entire playbook for that game.

Yeah, we hadn't found our footing. App was ready to go, and our guys were coming off 6 losing seasons. We found our stride in game 3 at Marshall, and were a completely different team the rest of the year.

I think had we met App in the 2nd half of the year, it's a much closer game and we maybe even win.

If we played this year, I'd say a W for sure.

(08-01-2022 09:29 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 08:35 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(07-31-2022 03:22 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  

(07-31-2022 11:49 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 04:09 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  App is in a conference with a bunch of FCS powerhouses, bottom level FBS programs with no budgets and some things called Louisiana Monroe and Coastal Carolina. I don't blame them for wanting to hang out here with the cool kids. They're in a league of the last kids picked for the team, the rejects, kids with glasses and buck teeth.

And dominated ECU last year, Shawn Clark was a gentlemen in the second half not showing more of the playbook in that first game.

Meh. Even a blind squirrel busts a nut every once in a while. Or something like that.

Exactly. I want them to keep that same energy in 2023 when we roll into Boone. Shawn Clark will definitely need his entire playbook for that game.

Yeah, we hadn't found our footing. App was ready to go, and our guys were coming off 6 losing seasons. We found our stride in game 3 at Marshall, and were a completely different team the rest of the year.

I think had we met App in the 2nd half of the year, it's a much closer game and we maybe even win.

If we played this year, I'd say a W for sure.

I don't want to discount their win. They came prepared, played a great game, and beat us.

We had all offseason to find our footing. Starting to get tired of rolling into every season not knowing what our 2-deep is.

(08-01-2022 07:54 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 06:24 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-31-2022 08:14 PM)Monarch Pride Wrote:  

(07-28-2022 08:42 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(07-27-2022 10:45 AM)ODU-Z8 Wrote:  You could have App St, ODU, and Coastal as your rivals every year. 2 with football success, 2 with baseball success. 0 with third-person posters

I for one am not anti sun belt. I don't think we should go there today, but I can see a world where it's our best path

Agreed - it will make sense when the contracts are renewed many years from now and the financial advantage is no longer an issue. The SBC East would have intense rivalries for ECU - and all members in the division.

AAC deal would have to fall a lot, and SBC deal would have a very long way to go. SBC just went on a run that will be near impossible to repeat without another pandemic, and just re-signed at (reportedly) $2m. AAC fell out of power/autonomy status and gets over 3x that. It's like the AAC expecting to pass the ACC in the next cycle.

FYI we have no idea what the new AAC valuation is. (reportedly) to be 8 Full 6 half. Which is a little more $5MM average payout. It could certainly be less. I think keeping almost half your league at a discounted payout would be way worse than accepting a 25%haircut across the board, but I tguess the rest of the AAC understands that they are likely to lose one or more top performers to realignment and every decision is based on the legacy members cashing in as much as possible before the bottom falls out.

I believe it has been established that the contract value has not changed. The remaining eight will receive roughly 7 million annually as per the original contract while the six new teams have half shares at 3.5 million. If you're referring to what the valuation will be when the contract expires, I don't think anyone could know at the moment and I don't think the conference will look as it does now at that time...

(08-01-2022 09:29 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 08:35 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(07-31-2022 03:22 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  

(07-31-2022 11:49 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 04:09 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  App is in a conference with a bunch of FCS powerhouses, bottom level FBS programs with no budgets and some things called Louisiana Monroe and Coastal Carolina. I don't blame them for wanting to hang out here with the cool kids. They're in a league of the last kids picked for the team, the rejects, kids with glasses and buck teeth.

And dominated ECU last year, Shawn Clark was a gentlemen in the second half not showing more of the playbook in that first game.

Meh. Even a blind squirrel busts a nut every once in a while. Or something like that.

Exactly. I want them to keep that same energy in 2023 when we roll into Boone. Shawn Clark will definitely need his entire playbook for that game.

Yeah, we hadn't found our footing. App was ready to go, and our guys were coming off 6 losing seasons. We found our stride in game 3 at Marshall, and were a completely different team the rest of the year.

I think had we met App in the 2nd half of the year, it's a much closer game and we maybe even win.

If we played this year, I'd say a W for sure.

I don't think ECU was beating us last year no matter what kind of footing you were on. ECU doesn't have the pieces to beat App. It was one bad throw from being 40-9 at the end of the 3rd quarter.

WKU showed waht kind of scheme could handle App, especially if we have an off day. I don't mean overall talent level, you just don't run that system.

we'll see what happens next year. Were not going ot have a reason to pull any plays since we play UNC the game before, I hope Clark keeps his foot on the gas the whole time.

(08-01-2022 09:51 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 07:54 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 06:24 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-31-2022 08:14 PM)Monarch Pride Wrote:  

(07-28-2022 08:42 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  I for one am not anti sun belt. I don't think we should go there today, but I can see a world where it's our best path

Agreed - it will make sense when the contracts are renewed many years from now and the financial advantage is no longer an issue. The SBC East would have intense rivalries for ECU - and all members in the division.

AAC deal would have to fall a lot, and SBC deal would have a very long way to go. SBC just went on a run that will be near impossible to repeat without another pandemic, and just re-signed at (reportedly) $2m. AAC fell out of power/autonomy status and gets over 3x that. It's like the AAC expecting to pass the ACC in the next cycle.

FYI we have no idea what the new AAC valuation is. (reportedly) to be 8 Full 6 half. Which is a little more $5MM average payout. It could certainly be less. I think keeping almost half your league at a discounted payout would be way worse than accepting a 25%haircut across the board, but I tguess the rest of the AAC understands that they are likely to lose one or more top performers to realignment and every decision is based on the legacy members cashing in as much as possible before the bottom falls out.

I believe it has been established that the contract value has not changed. The remaining eight will receive roughly 7 million annually as per the original contract while the six new teams have half shares at 3.5 million. If you're referring to what the valuation will be when the contract expires, I don't think anyone could know at the moment and I don't think the conference will look as it does now at that time...

its been reported but it hasn't been established (same iwth the SBC). We won't know the AAC until the 2024 reports come out.