(07-04-2022 02:28 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(07-04-2022 02:22 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Pro-Life activists advocating to "choose adoption" have never adopted any children
https://youtube.com/shorts/d-FBQIPEvb4?feature=share

Interestingly, many pro-abortion supporters have never aborted a baby. Also surprisingly, many supporters of gay marriage have never married another gay person. And this will blow your mind, many supporters of cancelling student debt, have no student debt. It's just crazy out there.

Another tidbit, the people who want the tax rates to go up in this country hire accountants to make sure they’re paying the lowest possible tax rate regardless of income!

But those damn republicans…

(07-05-2022 08:27 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(07-04-2022 02:28 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(07-04-2022 02:22 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Pro-Life activists advocating to "choose adoption" have never adopted any children
https://youtube.com/shorts/d-FBQIPEvb4?feature=share

Interestingly, many pro-abortion supporters have never aborted a baby. Also surprisingly, many supporters of gay marriage have never married another gay person. And this will blow your mind, many supporters of cancelling student debt, have no student debt. It's just crazy out there.

Another tidbit, the people who want the tax rates to go up in this country hire accountants to make sure they’re paying the lowest possible tax rate regardless of income!

But those damn republicans…

(07-05-2022 08:12 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 07:39 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  And some states are trying to criminalize actions done in another state where the action is legal. Texas should have the legal authority to overrule the laws of California? I know no one here would agree with the opposite.

If you have a 4 year old child that you no longer want, is it legal to take the child to a country that allows you to put them to death and then just show back up here as if nothing happened?

maybe. is it? that's a good question. if it's legal to sell heroin in Amsterdam can you be arrested for doing it if you come back to the states?

i haven't seen any discussions of states trying to do what you assert.. can you provide details? THAT would be an interesting discussion.

(07-05-2022 01:48 PM)Oman Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 08:12 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 07:39 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  And some states are trying to criminalize actions done in another state where the action is legal. Texas should have the legal authority to overrule the laws of California? I know no one here would agree with the opposite.

If you have a 4 year old child that you no longer want, is it legal to take the child to a country that allows you to put them to death and then just show back up here as if nothing happened?

maybe. is it? that's a good question. if it's legal to sell heroin in Amsterdam can you be arrested for doing it if you come back to the states?

No.

The difference is that the unborn child has rights in these states and are protected. Most states already have laws making it a crime to take a minor across state lines in order to do something that is illegal in the state they live in, even if its legal in the state they traveled to.

(07-05-2022 07:39 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  And some states are trying to criminalize actions done in another state where the action is legal. Texas should have the legal authority to overrule the laws of California? I know no one here would agree with the opposite.

The last time this was allowed by the Supreme Court was the Dredd Scott decision that led to the Civil War. It allowed slave states to go after blacks in free states. They said it was "tradition" that a black is a slave from birth regardless of where they were born or where they lived.. states rights be damned! Sound familiar? The Guardian Council is saying the same thing when they allowed the TX vigilante law to go into effect.. but it can be applied to anything.. not just abortion.

(07-05-2022 08:27 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(07-04-2022 02:28 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(07-04-2022 02:22 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Pro-Life activists advocating to "choose adoption" have never adopted any children
https://youtube.com/shorts/d-FBQIPEvb4?feature=share

Interestingly, many pro-abortion supporters have never aborted a baby. Also surprisingly, many supporters of gay marriage have never married another gay person. And this will blow your mind, many supporters of cancelling student debt, have no student debt. It's just crazy out there.

Another tidbit, the people who want the tax rates to go up in this country hire accountants to make sure they’re paying the lowest possible tax rate regardless of income!

But those damn republicans…

You do realize that the oligarchs (the greedy) secretly want to raise taxes on the poor and middle class. That's why they are "starving the beast", so we have no choice but to do so. Rick Scott accidentally revealed the party's true intentions a few months ago. But of course you're too brainwashed to have noticed it. Make no mistake about it, taxes are going up for the middle class eventually. The only question is whether the poor or rich will have to pay more also? And that depends on who is in charge. Under Democrats, the rich will pay more. Under Republicans, the poor will suffer more. Who you vote for will be addressed at your day of reckoning.

(07-05-2022 01:48 PM)Oman Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 08:12 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 07:39 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  And some states are trying to criminalize actions done in another state where the action is legal. Texas should have the legal authority to overrule the laws of California? I know no one here would agree with the opposite.

If you have a 4 year old child that you no longer want, is it legal to take the child to a country that allows you to put them to death and then just show back up here as if nothing happened?

maybe. is it? that's a good question. if it's legal to sell heroin in Amsterdam can you be arrested for doing it if you come back to the states?

i haven't seen any discussions of states trying to do what you assert.. can you provide details? THAT would be an interesting discussion.

The U.S. as a country and especially any individual state has no rights to charge a US citizen for murder that happened in another country, whether it's their child or not. It's up to the government of where ever it happened to charge them. Otherwise it can lead to war because a country's sovereignty is not being respected. Same philosophy must apply across state borders if we truly have state rights in this country.

(07-05-2022 02:23 PM)scorpius Wrote:  The U.S. as a country and especially any individual state has no rights to charge a US citizen for murder that happened in another country, whether it's their child or not.

lulz, did you get that little nugget of dumbassery from th law offices of Hoodwinked Taint & Swallow?

(07-05-2022 02:39 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 02:23 PM)scorpius Wrote:  The U.S. as a country and especially any individual state has no rights to charge a US citizen for murder that happened in another country, whether it's their child or not.

lulz, did you get that little nugget of dumbassery from th law offices of Hoodwinked Taint & Swallow?

No. The "nugget" comes from common sense.. which appears to be really lacking on here.

(07-05-2022 07:39 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  And some states are trying to criminalize actions done in another state where the action is legal. Texas should have the legal authority to overrule the laws of California? I know no one here would agree with the opposite.

It's not that hard to understand..
If the incident takes place within the borders of Texas.. it falls under Texas laws.
If it takes place in the state of California... Looney-la-la laws preside.

(07-05-2022 02:52 PM)scorpius Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 02:39 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 02:23 PM)scorpius Wrote:  The U.S. as a country and especially any individual state has no rights to charge a US citizen for murder that happened in another country, whether it's their child or not.

lulz, did you get that little nugget of dumbassery from th law offices of Hoodwinked Taint & Swallow?

No. The "nugget" comes from common sense.. which appears to be really lacking on here.

Driven home every time you post.

(07-05-2022 03:07 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 07:39 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  And some states are trying to criminalize actions done in another state where the action is legal. Texas should have the legal authority to overrule the laws of California? I know no one here would agree with the opposite.

It's not that hard to understand..
If the incident takes place within the borders of Texas.. it falls under Texas laws.
If it takes place in the state of California... No laws preside.

Slight adjustment

(07-05-2022 02:52 PM)scorpius Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 02:39 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 02:23 PM)scorpius Wrote:  The U.S. as a country and especially any individual state has no rights to charge a US citizen for murder that happened in another country, whether it's their child or not.

lulz, did you get that little nugget of dumbassery from th law offices of Hoodwinked Taint & Swallow?

No. The "nugget" comes from common sense.. which appears to be really lacking on here.

Okay I was wrong. Yes I'm wrong at times. And this is one of them. I was thinking crimes where it is legal wherever it was committed, but not where they are being charged. That is where issues of sovereignty come into play. Sure they can still be charged, but it can damage international relations, and when this happens between individual states, one can easily see how this is a Constitutional issue of state rights.

(07-05-2022 04:16 PM)scorpius Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 02:52 PM)scorpius Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 02:39 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 02:23 PM)scorpius Wrote:  The U.S. as a country and especially any individual state has no rights to charge a US citizen for murder that happened in another country, whether it's their child or not.

lulz, did you get that little nugget of dumbassery from th law offices of Hoodwinked Taint & Swallow?

No. The "nugget" comes from common sense.. which appears to be really lacking on here.

Okay I was wrong.

You're a bigger man than HoodwinkedTaintedTom.

(07-05-2022 07:46 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 07:39 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  And some states are trying to criminalize actions done in another state where the action is legal. Texas should have the legal authority to overrule the laws of California? I know no one here would agree with the opposite.

agreed … #contradictory overturning roe v. wade…

now, which states are attempting such? please be specific regarding exactly what they’re attempting to legislate…

w/o looking, I’ll assume it only involves ordering abortion pills across state lines … other than that, it’s a loser…

still waiting....

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022...ape-victim


Did I miss the pro-life (until it's born) crowd discussing this case in this thread?

(07-05-2022 04:51 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022...ape-victim


Did I miss the pro-life (until it's born) crowd discussing this case in this thread?

I'll discuss it. Did they catch and incarcerate the rapist?

(07-05-2022 04:51 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022...ape-victim


Did I miss the pro-life (until it's born) crowd discussing this case in this thread?

Should we open up the floodgates for literally million of abortions as birth control just to fix this one case or the 1% in general?

Can the pregnancy not be terminated via a pill within the first week?

Do you have ANY interest in punishing the rapist or is abortion the only useful part of the story for you?

(07-05-2022 04:51 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022...ape-victim


Did I miss the pro-life (until it's born) crowd discussing this case in this thread?

I'll add my two cents. Why did it take 6 frickin weeks? Why didn't the good doctor do a scrub like is typically done once DNA samples are taken and give the CHILD EC on the spot. Sounds made up to me. Surely these are physicians are more competent.

(07-05-2022 04:51 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022...ape-victim


Did I miss the pro-life (until it's born) crowd discussing this case in this thread?

Honestly, I'll have to wait to see if this is really true. But let's assume that it is true for the moment.

What's the percentage of these types of cases when it comes to total US annual pregnancies?

We know that it's less than 1/10th of a percent. Factor in the age of the girl and the percentage drops even more.


But did I read it correctly? There's a state that does allow for abortion in this instance?

Hmmm... whaddaya know.

So, if a person that resides in Louisiana and welches on a bet made with a person from, let's say Texas, can the person from Texas use Texas Rangers to arrest the person in Louisiana for fraud? Asking for a friend........

(07-05-2022 07:06 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(07-05-2022 04:51 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022...ape-victim


Did I miss the pro-life (until it's born) crowd discussing this case in this thread?

Should we open up the floodgates for literally million of abortions as birth control just to fix this one case or the 1% in general?

Can the pregnancy not be terminated via a pill within the first week?

Do you have ANY interest in punishing the rapist or is abortion the only useful part of the story for you?

Acting like abortion is birth control in the mainstream populace is asinine.

So you don’t think a life begins at conception? Or you’re a okay with murdering one week olds.

And insinuating that I’m not angry she was raped or think the rapist does not deserves repercussions is batshit insane and ****** up. Clearly you must think that to even bring it up. Fuckin nut job.