The controlled media in this country will do anything to keep the covid narrative and fear going and avoid doing ANY reporting on what many doctors have been saying while censored. Few have heard them.

Quote:Yes, it’s not hard to understand. You’re called a conspiracy theorist, but give it time and the real conspiracies start to the surface to the point that no one can deny them. The latest truth that has risen to the sunlight comes out of Australia, where researchers there have provided definitive proof that those who take the COVID shots, fraudulently referred to as “vaccines,” are far more likely to gain infections or even die, just like we have warned for nearly two years.

The story and analysis were done by The Expose.

Quote:Nearly 90% of people in Australia are considered fully vaccinated against Covid-19, but despite this, the country is still riding the largest wave of Covid-19 deaths to hit the country since the beginning of the alleged pandemic in 2020, a wave that began in February 2022.

Therefore, Australia has provided the world with unequivocal evidence that the Covid-19 injections not only simply do not work, they in fact make recipients worse.

Quote:As you can see, on 13th Jan 22, the day Australia recorded its most cases in a single day to date, 81% of Australia had received at least 1 dose of a Covid-19 vaccine, and 78% of Australia were considered fully vaccinated.

This unequivocally proves that the Covid-19 injections not only simply don’t work, they in fact make recipients more likely to be infected.

To those now screaming that all those cases were and are probably being recorded among the unvaccinated population, we say “think before you speak”. Because further official data from Australia proves otherwise.

The Government of New South Wales, Australia had been producing a weekly Covid-19 Statistical Report, but they then decided to stop publishing it. Why? Probably because of how terrible the data was looking for those who have chosen to be vaccinated.

Here’s how the figures added up between 26th Nov 21 and 5th Feb 22 according to the now neglected Government of NSW report –

Quote:The above graph isn’t mistaken, the fully vaccinated population really did account for 4 in every 5 Covid-19 cases between 26th November and 5th February 2022.

“Well at least the vaccine protects me against death”, we hear you cry.

Wrong again, unfortunately.

https://thewashingtonstandard.com/austra...ons-death/

Source of the raw data

They will probably see the same results in the US after the most recent Covid wave that hit the vac Ed and unvaxxed.

(06-22-2022 10:09 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  They will probably see the same results in the US after the most recent Covid wave that hit the vac Ed and unvaxxed.

We’re what—-4 or 5 variants removed from the original? Maybe it’s time to design a more updated so called “vaccine” rather than trying to use same ole Wuhan dose that’s becoming less and less effective with each new variant. I think this “vaccine” has reached retirement age.

(06-22-2022 10:37 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 10:09 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  They will probably see the same results in the US after the most recent Covid wave that hit the vac Ed and unvaxxed.

We’re what—-4 or 5 variants removed from the original? Maybe it’s time to design a more updated so called “vaccine” rather than trying to use same ole Wuhan dose that’s becoming less and less effective with each new variant. I think this “vaccine” has reached retirement age.

They are working on it but the virus is evolving. Sometimes the science has to catch up..

(06-22-2022 06:14 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  The controlled media in this country will do anything to keep the covid narrative and fear going and avoid doing ANY reporting on what many doctors have been saying while censored. Few have heard them.

Quote:Yes, it’s not hard to understand. You’re called a conspiracy theorist, but give it time and the real conspiracies start to the surface to the point that no one can deny them. The latest truth that has risen to the sunlight comes out of Australia, where researchers there have provided definitive proof that those who take the COVID shots, fraudulently referred to as “vaccines,” are far more likely to gain infections or even die, just like we have warned for nearly two years.

The story and analysis were done by The Expose.

Quote:Nearly 90% of people in Australia are considered fully vaccinated against Covid-19, but despite this, the country is still riding the largest wave of Covid-19 deaths to hit the country since the beginning of the alleged pandemic in 2020, a wave that began in February 2022.

Therefore, Australia has provided the world with unequivocal evidence that the Covid-19 injections not only simply do not work, they in fact make recipients worse.

Quote:As you can see, on 13th Jan 22, the day Australia recorded its most cases in a single day to date, 81% of Australia had received at least 1 dose of a Covid-19 vaccine, and 78% of Australia were considered fully vaccinated.

This unequivocally proves that the Covid-19 injections not only simply don’t work, they in fact make recipients more likely to be infected.

To those now screaming that all those cases were and are probably being recorded among the unvaccinated population, we say “think before you speak”. Because further official data from Australia proves otherwise.

The Government of New South Wales, Australia had been producing a weekly Covid-19 Statistical Report, but they then decided to stop publishing it. Why? Probably because of how terrible the data was looking for those who have chosen to be vaccinated.

Here’s how the figures added up between 26th Nov 21 and 5th Feb 22 according to the now neglected Government of NSW report –

Quote:The above graph isn’t mistaken, the fully vaccinated population really did account for 4 in every 5 Covid-19 cases between 26th November and 5th February 2022.

“Well at least the vaccine protects me against death”, we hear you cry.

Wrong again, unfortunately.

https://thewashingtonstandard.com/austra...ons-death/

Source of the raw data

Here we go again with the mind tricks using percentages. Let's assume everyone in Australia except 1000 are vaccinated. Then you'd have 99%+ deaths will be among those vaccinated. All the other stats will be 99%+ among those vaccinated as well. When 90%+ of the population is vaccinated, you'll clearly have a major skewed effect in the data when using percentages. You can't interpret data based on percentages the same way as you do per capita data, which is conveniently hid from us. That's where the real story is told.

What is with this continued obsession with covid vaccinations. It's to the point now if you're still trying to fight that lost battle, you REALLY have issues.

If you really didn't or don't understand what I'm trying to explain to you, and truly fell for that mind trick, then this is another classic example of how they (the GREED) brainwash people like you into submission. I mean if you fell for this gimmick, think of all the other gimmicks you're falling for.. and all the brainwashing that is causing you.

The cult of the jab to the rescue.

Only the most ignorant among them are rushing to dissect this.

(06-23-2022 02:22 AM)scorpius Wrote:  

(06-22-2022 06:14 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  The controlled media in this country will do anything to keep the covid narrative and fear going and avoid doing ANY reporting on what many doctors have been saying while censored. Few have heard them.

Quote:Yes, it’s not hard to understand. You’re called a conspiracy theorist, but give it time and the real conspiracies start to the surface to the point that no one can deny them. The latest truth that has risen to the sunlight comes out of Australia, where researchers there have provided definitive proof that those who take the COVID shots, fraudulently referred to as “vaccines,” are far more likely to gain infections or even die, just like we have warned for nearly two years.

The story and analysis were done by The Expose.

Quote:Nearly 90% of people in Australia are considered fully vaccinated against Covid-19, but despite this, the country is still riding the largest wave of Covid-19 deaths to hit the country since the beginning of the alleged pandemic in 2020, a wave that began in February 2022.

Therefore, Australia has provided the world with unequivocal evidence that the Covid-19 injections not only simply do not work, they in fact make recipients worse.

Quote:As you can see, on 13th Jan 22, the day Australia recorded its most cases in a single day to date, 81% of Australia had received at least 1 dose of a Covid-19 vaccine, and 78% of Australia were considered fully vaccinated.

This unequivocally proves that the Covid-19 injections not only simply don’t work, they in fact make recipients more likely to be infected.

To those now screaming that all those cases were and are probably being recorded among the unvaccinated population, we say “think before you speak”. Because further official data from Australia proves otherwise.

The Government of New South Wales, Australia had been producing a weekly Covid-19 Statistical Report, but they then decided to stop publishing it. Why? Probably because of how terrible the data was looking for those who have chosen to be vaccinated.

Here’s how the figures added up between 26th Nov 21 and 5th Feb 22 according to the now neglected Government of NSW report –

Quote:The above graph isn’t mistaken, the fully vaccinated population really did account for 4 in every 5 Covid-19 cases between 26th November and 5th February 2022.

“Well at least the vaccine protects me against death”, we hear you cry.

Wrong again, unfortunately.

https://thewashingtonstandard.com/austra...ons-death/

Source of the raw data

Here we go again with the mind tricks using percentages. Let's assume everyone in Australia except 1000 are vaccinated. Then you'd have 99%+ deaths will be among those vaccinated. All the other stats will be 99%+ among those vaccinated as well. When 90%+ of the population is vaccinated, you'll clearly have a major skewed effect in the data when using percentages. You can't interpret data based on percentages the same way as you do per capita data, which is conveniently hid from us. That's where the real story is told.

What is with this continued obsession with covid vaccinations. It's to the point now if you're still trying to fight that lost battle, you REALLY have issues.

If you really didn't or don't understand what I'm trying to explain to you, and truly fell for that mind trick, then this is another classic example of how they (the GREED) brainwash people like you into submission. I mean if you fell for this gimmick, think of all the other gimmicks you're falling for.. and all the brainwashing that is causing you.

Questions require question marks idiot. The issue is that as time lapses it becomes increasingly evident that those who chose to get jabbed did so at a higher risk to themselves than their beloved governments and worldwide authorities led them to believe. How many times have you bent over for the genetic manipulations of our government and medical administrators?

Also, what about this confused you? " Percentage of COVID 19 cases, hospitalizations, ICU admissions, and deaths in NSW, Australia by vaccination status..." It's not about percentages of total population fool, it's about percentages of those criteria of people who HAVE and people who HAVE NOT been vaccinated. Clearly the percentages are higher among the latter group than the former. It's clear by the graph that vaxxed people are experiencing all those events at a much higher rate than the unvaxxed.

Here. I'll try to help you out. 21% of the unvaxxed who contract the illness are dying while 79% of the vaxxed who contract the illness are dying. The total numbers are meaningless in that context. What that should tell you is that the "vaccines" are largely and grossly ineffective at protecting those who receive them from the effects of the illness.

Makes more sense new versions are being released since we ARE at war. Not a coincidence that at the same time drugs that appear to be prescription on the street actually have poison in them to kill people rather than get them hooked and addicted.

(06-23-2022 05:41 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  It's not about percentages of total population fool, it's about percentages of those criteria of people who HAVE and people who HAVE NOT been vaccinated.

Quote:Here. I'll try to help you out. 21% of the unvaxxed who contract the illness are dying while 79% of the vaxxed who contract the illness are dying. The total numbers are meaningless in that context. What that should tell you is that the "vaccines" are largely and grossly ineffective at protecting those who receive them from the effects of the illness.

Without having data on the total population, it's impossible to meaningfully interpret the data from what is coming into the hospital.

Let's use numbers closer to real world here to help you understand.

Let's say Australia has 100 million people. 90% are vaccinated. So 90 million vaccinated and 10 million unvaccinated.

Now let's say being vaccinated cuts your chances of being hospitalized in a month by 50%. So you go from a 0.1% chance of being hospitalized being unvaccinated to a 0.05% chance by being vaccinated. That is cutting your chance in half. 0.1%/2 = 0.05%

Still following me? Now let's apply this to the whole population since it's the whole population using the hospital system in a month.

90000000*0.0005 = 45000 vaccinated cases
10000000*0.001 = 10000 unvaccinated cases

In that month the hospital system would be flooded with 45,000 vaccinated covid cases, and 10,000 unvaccinated cases despite the fact that those who are vaccinated are 50% less likely to get covid. This is because the vaccinated population is 9 times greater than the unvaccinated population.

Here are the percentages using ONLY hospital data:

Percent vaccinated = 45000/(45000+10000)= 81.8%
Percent unvaccinated = 10000/(45000+10000)= 18.2%

See how misleading that is despite the fact vaccinated people are just half as likely to be hospitalized as unvaccinated people? It's the basic fact that anything is possible if you make the pool of chances large enough. And with only using hospital data, we have no idea how large that pool is outside the hospital.

Now ask yourself, would you rather have a 1 in 1000 chance (0.001%) of being hospitalized by being unvaccinated or a 1 in 2000 (0.05%) by being vaccinated? If you are a naive fool and only use the hospital percentages you'll think you have 4 times the chance of being hospitalized by getting vaccinated. If you're smart and look at the per capita numbers, you'll realize you're 50% less likely to be hospitalized by being vaccinated.

Again, if they can manipulate you with bad data this easily, think of what else they are brainwashing you on. This is only the tip of the iceberg. They use the same gimmick math and other mind tricks with gun violence data and pretty much anything else they want to brainwash you on.

(06-23-2022 02:04 PM)scorpius Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 05:41 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  It's not about percentages of total population fool, it's about percentages of those criteria of people who HAVE and people who HAVE NOT been vaccinated.

Quote:Here. I'll try to help you out. 21% of the unvaxxed who contract the illness are dying while 79% of the vaxxed who contract the illness are dying. The total numbers are meaningless in that context. What that should tell you is that the "vaccines" are largely and grossly ineffective at protecting those who receive them from the effects of the illness.

Without having data on the total population, it's impossible to meaningfully interpret the data from what is coming into the hospital.

Let's use numbers closer to real world here to help you understand.

Let's say Australia has 100 million people. 90% are vaccinated. So 90 million vaccinated and 10 million unvaccinated.

Now let's say being vaccinated cuts your chances of being hospitalized in a month by 50%. So you go from a 0.1% chance of being hospitalized being unvaccinated to a 0.05% chance by being vaccinated. That is cutting your chance in half. 0.1%/2 = 0.05%

Still following me? Now let's apply this to the whole population since it's the whole population using the hospital system in a month.

90000000*0.0005 = 45000 vaccinated cases
10000000*0.001 = 10000 unvaccinated cases

In that month the hospital system would be flooded with 45,000 vaccinated covid cases, and 10,000 unvaccinated cases despite the fact that those who are vaccinated are 50% less likely to get covid. This is because the vaccinated population is 9 times greater than the unvaccinated population.

Here are the percentages using ONLY hospital data:

Percent vaccinated = 45000/(45000+10000)= 81.8%
Percent unvaccinated = 10000/(45000+10000)= 18.2%

See how misleading that is despite the fact vaccinated people are just half as likely to be hospitalized as unvaccinated people? It's the basic fact that anything is possible if you make the pool of chances large enough. And with only using hospital data, we have no idea how large that pool is outside the hospital.

Now ask yourself, would you rather have a 1 in 1000 chance (0.001%) of being hospitalized by being unvaccinated or a 1 in 2000 (0.05%) by being vaccinated? If you are a naive fool and only use the hospital percentages you'll think you have 4 times the chance of being hospitalized by getting vaccinated. If you're smart and look at the per capita numbers, you'll realize you're 50% less likely to be hospitalized by being vaccinated.

Again, if they can manipulate you with bad data this easily, think of what else they are brainwashing you on. This is only the tip of the iceberg. They use the same gimmick math and other mind tricks with gun violence data and pretty much anything else they want to brainwash you on.

Whats the odds are of you getting pregnant and giving birth? I want to see those numbers before I read your diarrhea post.

Believe the science unless the science goes against your narrative. The only difference between them and the Liberals is that the believe everything that is fed to them except when the science is wrong in their minds.

I've stopped reading this gibberish and idiocy from the Commies that post here a long time ago. It's like listening to both Joys, the Joyless twins, talk their Schiff. I won't belittle myself to neither. Keep on believing the Leftists idiots, that's your prerogative, my prerogative is to just ignore the idiots.

(06-23-2022 02:19 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Whats the odds are of you getting pregnant and giving birth? I want to see those numbers before I read your diarrhea post.

Hiding behind humor is a way of putting your head in the sand to an issue. Not only that, but when it allows you to be a bully as well, it's even more empowering, right? I see this tactic employed all the time in right-wing propaganda. So no surprise you resort to it as well.

We still don't know the long term effects of these "vaccines" and won't for many years.

Period.

(06-23-2022 02:29 PM)scorpius Wrote:  

(06-23-2022 02:19 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Whats the odds are of you getting pregnant and giving birth? I want to see those numbers before I read your diarrhea post.

Hiding behind humor is a way of putting your head in the sand to an issue. Not only that, but when it allows you to be a bully as well, it's even more empowering, right? I see this tactic employed all the time in right-wing propaganda. So no surprise you resort to it as well.

You just laid out a plethora of calculations over 3 or 4 paragraphs. Before I read that and try to take your numbers seriously, I simply asked you a simple question that would have taken 5% of the response you actually spent typing out.

ITs simple, all I asked for was a number with a percent sign behind it.

It's a little tricky because the article starts with "nearly 90% are vaccinated", but during the time the data in the chart was collected, that number was around 80%. So at best, the vaccine makes no difference at all.

(06-23-2022 03:01 PM)Chappy Wrote:  It's a little tricky because the article starts with "nearly 90% are vaccinated", but during the time the data in the chart was collected, that number was around 80%. So at best, the vaccine makes no difference at all.

Exactly, if we were to assume that exactly 90% of the population was vaccinated and that 10% wasn't, the study could possibly show that the vaccine has a small benefit in terms of death (90% of the population contributes 80% of the deaths, 10% of the population contributes 20% of the deaths). Since the number of vaccinated is lower than 90% (possibly as low as 80%), however, it shows that the vaccine is doing very little if anything at all.

And no, the study does not show that 20% of unvaccinated who contracted the virus are dying while 80% of those vaccinated are.

(06-23-2022 03:01 PM)Chappy Wrote:  It's a little tricky because the article starts with "nearly 90% are vaccinated", but during the time the data in the chart was collected, that number was around 80%. So at best, the vaccine makes no difference at all.

The article stated that this is a bit tricky, since in Australia those that had only one jab are considered unvaccinated. They are only counting those with at least two jabs as vaxxed.

The graph is a little weird because:

1. You have the unvaxxed case in green
2. Next to it you have hospitlizations and ICU's, which are lower as a percent of case load vs vaxxed
3. You have a slightly higher rate in deaths as compared to the rate of icu/hospitlization

Its hard to rationalize #2 and #3 without something else going on. Were unvaxxed sometimes not allowed to be hospitalized and/or put in ICU? Or did some unvaxxed people die at home for some other reason, where shown to have had covid, and was marked as a covid death?

(06-23-2022 04:14 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The graph is a little weird because:

1. You have the unvaxxed case in green
2. Next to it you have hospitlizations and ICU's, which are lower as a percent of case load vs vaxxed
3. You have a slightly higher rate in deaths as compared to the rate of icu/hospitlization

Its hard to rationalize #2 and #3 without something else going on. Were unvaxxed sometimes not allowed to be hospitalized and/or put in ICU? Or did some unvaxxed people die at home for some other reason, where shown to have had covid, and was marked as a covid death?

To me, the graphs are essentially saying that the vaccine was largely ineffective against infection (perhaps even increased the chances of getting Covid), made virtually no difference in the chances of needing hospitalization or ICU care--but did appear make a very small difference in your chances of actually dying from Covid. Since the vaccine seems to make you more likely to get Covid---and slightly less likely to die from Covid----there would appear to be almost no real value to the vaccine at this point from the point of view of the broader population (the 5% increase in total Covid cases would offset the 5% better chance of not dying--meaning your total deaths probably wouldnt change much one way or the other).

Something that hasnt been considered---its very possible that MOST of the people who are "unvaccinated" may have chosen that path because the already had Covid and survived---thus they already have a substantial level of immunity. If thats the case---that might change the way we should view these numbers.