(05-06-2022 01:20 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(05-06-2022 12:25 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  I'll just come out and say it. This administration and a lot of folks in Congress appear to want to get us into a shooting war (not a proxy war) with a nuclear armed state.

Otherwise they wouldn't be bragging on TV about helping shoot down a Russian troop transport plane, sinking ships, etc. They'd stay quiet about it.

The US has been consistently gunning for coups in any country associated with Russia in a friendly way. Georgia, Syria, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, and others.

Syria and Ukraine were the top of the list because of Russian bases there. If the international bankers can’t control Russia, they will do their best to destroy it.

If Russia gave up control of its central bank to the international cartel, they could invade any country they want and be hailed as doing Gods work.

You must be Putin’s grandson getting an education in the good ole US of A.

I will say it again. Absolutely no body from the west was EVER going to invade Russia. Russia is the sole aggressor here and should not be allowed by the world community to be successful in this atrocity.

(05-11-2022 07:14 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 03:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

Its all good now though

This - right here - is the main issue with the legacy media today. Based on legacy reporting alone plus knowing the legacy media engages in deceitful practices to support certain political parties we have no idea if this collage was cherry picked stories from a small minority of extremists or if Ukraine is a true blue budding neo Nazi state.

You could easily make a similar collage of right wing extremist groups to paint the U.S. to look like Nazis. You could also find a bunch of leftist extremist groups - with plenty of pics available from 2020 - to make the U.S. look like a neo-communist state worshipping the likes of Lenin and Stalin.

IMHO the true root cause of so much evil in the Western nations can ultimately be laid at the feet of legacy media who are in bed with specific political parties in the U.S. and the various other European nations. By their nature, political parties are designed to destroy all opposition parties like a locusts do to crops. It's the legacy media's job to act as the check and balance to the excesses of political parties.

didnt trust them then, dont trust them now.

no good guys here

(05-11-2022 08:02 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 07:14 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 03:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

Its all good now though

This - right here - is the main issue with the legacy media today. Based on legacy reporting alone plus knowing the legacy media engages in deceitful practices to support certain political parties we have no idea if this collage was cherry picked stories from a small minority of extremists or if Ukraine is a true blue budding neo Nazi state.

You could easily make a similar collage of right wing extremist groups to paint the U.S. to look like Nazis. You could also find a bunch of leftist extremist groups - with plenty of pics available from 2020 - to make the U.S. look like a neo-communist state worshipping the likes of Lenin and Stalin.

IMHO the true root cause of so much evil in the Western nations can ultimately be laid at the feet of legacy media who are in bed with specific political parties in the U.S. and the various other European nations. By their nature, political parties are designed to destroy all opposition parties like a locusts do to crops. It's the legacy media's job to act as the check and balance to the excesses of political parties.

didnt trust them then, dont trust them now.

no good guys here

Sure the Ukrainians are just as bad as the Russians. That’s why they were massing troops on the Russian border about to invade and shell Russian towns and civilians into submission.

The simple reason NATO does not want a full out shooting war with Russia is because Russia would very quickly be reduced to a trash heap with the only game piece left being nukes.

(05-11-2022 08:08 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 08:02 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 07:14 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 03:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

Its all good now though

This - right here - is the main issue with the legacy media today. Based on legacy reporting alone plus knowing the legacy media engages in deceitful practices to support certain political parties we have no idea if this collage was cherry picked stories from a small minority of extremists or if Ukraine is a true blue budding neo Nazi state.

You could easily make a similar collage of right wing extremist groups to paint the U.S. to look like Nazis. You could also find a bunch of leftist extremist groups - with plenty of pics available from 2020 - to make the U.S. look like a neo-communist state worshipping the likes of Lenin and Stalin.

IMHO the true root cause of so much evil in the Western nations can ultimately be laid at the feet of legacy media who are in bed with specific political parties in the U.S. and the various other European nations. By their nature, political parties are designed to destroy all opposition parties like a locusts do to crops. It's the legacy media's job to act as the check and balance to the excesses of political parties.

didnt trust them then, dont trust them now.

no good guys here

Sure the Ukrainians are just as bad as the Russians. That’s why they were massing troops on the Russian border about to invade and shell Russian towns and civilians into submission.

the government is just as bad. keep being a fanboy like its a football game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_o...bas_(2021)

either way, frick them both. dont send them our money.

dammit to hell frickin crooked politicians and manipulated fools

reeeeeeeeeee

(05-11-2022 08:12 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  The simple reason NATO does not want a full out shooting war with Russia is because Russia would very quickly be reduced to a trash heap with the only game piece left being nukes.

Well in the process, Poland, the Baltics and Germany would take a lot of damage from Russian artillery and missiles.

(05-11-2022 11:34 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 08:12 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  The simple reason NATO does not want a full out shooting war with Russia is because Russia would very quickly be reduced to a trash heap with the only game piece left being nukes.

Well in the process, Poland, the Baltics and Germany would take a lot of damage from Russian artillery and missiles.

If Russians are stupid enough to get Germany involved. All of h3ll is going to poured upon them. I can't believe Russia is stupid enough to fool around with Germany or japan. Far superior advanced civilizations than their own who have a history of superior warfare. Deep freeze Russian winter won't save them this time.

44 billion dollars

What a mess

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Good read on the front in Kharkiv.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61378196

"The village of Ruska Lozova stands at the centre of the turn in Ukraine's response to Russian aggression.

It was recently liberated in a co-ordinated effort led by senior military commanders. Ukrainian troops from territorial defence, the national guard, and the regular army are seeking to push the Russians back along a 32-km (20-mile) front line. In the Russian city of Belgorod, just across the border, troops have amassed for a likely counter-offensive.

We drove north from the city of Kharkhiv with Ukrainian forces. Russian shells continued to hit the village.

With no power or water, little food, and neither phone or internet, its residents had been isolated from Ukraine's second-largest city - just 8km (5 miles) south. From the woods and hills nearby, Russian mortars and artillery shelled Kharkiv relentlessly.

At an army aid station, we met Raisa Opanasivna who has lived in Ruska Lozova for 30 years...."

(05-11-2022 08:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 08:08 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 08:02 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 07:14 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 03:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

Its all good now though

This - right here - is the main issue with the legacy media today. Based on legacy reporting alone plus knowing the legacy media engages in deceitful practices to support certain political parties we have no idea if this collage was cherry picked stories from a small minority of extremists or if Ukraine is a true blue budding neo Nazi state.

You could easily make a similar collage of right wing extremist groups to paint the U.S. to look like Nazis. You could also find a bunch of leftist extremist groups - with plenty of pics available from 2020 - to make the U.S. look like a neo-communist state worshipping the likes of Lenin and Stalin.

IMHO the true root cause of so much evil in the Western nations can ultimately be laid at the feet of legacy media who are in bed with specific political parties in the U.S. and the various other European nations. By their nature, political parties are designed to destroy all opposition parties like a locusts do to crops. It's the legacy media's job to act as the check and balance to the excesses of political parties.

didnt trust them then, dont trust them now.

no good guys here

Sure the Ukrainians are just as bad as the Russians. That’s why they were massing troops on the Russian border about to invade and shell Russian towns and civilians into submission.

the government is just as bad. keep being a fanboy like its a football game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_o...bas_(2021)

either way, frick them both. dont send them our money.

dammit to hell frickin crooked politicians and manipulated fools

reeeeeeeeeee

Sure, we know 99% of it will be stolen, but Putin…. Or Covid, or ISIS, or North Korea, or Communism. Or whatever it takes to fool the American idiot taxpayers, which is anything they say needs the money.

This country does without half of the things people here need but aren’t allowed to have because partisan politics have decided having things like healthcare and infrastructure is a waste of money and have convinced everyone government can’t do it. All it can do well, apparently, is give the money away for others to waste halfway around the world.

We are a stupid country and honestly don’t deserve to have anything for ourselves at this point. I just wish the money we gave away benefited someone instead always going to wars though.

How much more American money are y'all willing to piss away in this conflict?

(05-11-2022 07:58 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(05-06-2022 01:20 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(05-06-2022 12:25 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  I'll just come out and say it. This administration and a lot of folks in Congress appear to want to get us into a shooting war (not a proxy war) with a nuclear armed state.

Otherwise they wouldn't be bragging on TV about helping shoot down a Russian troop transport plane, sinking ships, etc. They'd stay quiet about it.

The US has been consistently gunning for coups in any country associated with Russia in a friendly way. Georgia, Syria, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, and others.

Syria and Ukraine were the top of the list because of Russian bases there. If the international bankers can’t control Russia, they will do their best to destroy it.

If Russia gave up control of its central bank to the international cartel, they could invade any country they want and be hailed as doing Gods work.

You must be Putin’s grandson getting an education in the good ole US of A.

I will say it again. Absolutely no body from the west was EVER going to invade Russia. Russia is the sole aggressor here and should not be allowed by the world community to be successful in this atrocity.

You mean the west wasn’t going to invade Russia AGAIN for a, what, 5th, 6th time? Of course not. Russia must have imagined all of the other times.

The US troops that invaded to try to boost the Whites pretty much ended up setting the tone for the entire Cold War. Invade and interfere in someone else’s civil war and it doesn’t set a good tone for the future relations FYI.

(05-11-2022 12:14 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 07:58 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(05-06-2022 01:20 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(05-06-2022 12:25 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  I'll just come out and say it. This administration and a lot of folks in Congress appear to want to get us into a shooting war (not a proxy war) with a nuclear armed state.

Otherwise they wouldn't be bragging on TV about helping shoot down a Russian troop transport plane, sinking ships, etc. They'd stay quiet about it.

The US has been consistently gunning for coups in any country associated with Russia in a friendly way. Georgia, Syria, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, and others.

Syria and Ukraine were the top of the list because of Russian bases there. If the international bankers can’t control Russia, they will do their best to destroy it.

If Russia gave up control of its central bank to the international cartel, they could invade any country they want and be hailed as doing Gods work.

You must be Putin’s grandson getting an education in the good ole US of A.

I will say it again. Absolutely no body from the west was EVER going to invade Russia. Russia is the sole aggressor here and should not be allowed by the world community to be successful in this atrocity.

You mean the west wasn’t going to invade Russia AGAIN for a, what, 5th, 6th time? Of course not. Russia must have imagined all of the other times.

The US troops that invaded to try to boost the Whites pretty much ended up setting the tone for the entire Cold War. Invade and interfere in someone else’s civil war and it doesn’t set a good tone for the future relations FYI.

Poor Tudor has no globe. I guess the Russian educational system had to suffer pending cuts to fund Russia's expansionist army build-up. If you'll look on a map, you'll find that the Russian Armies are invading Ukraine. Not the other way around. This is the second time Russia has invaded Ukraine in less than a decade. Try to keep up.

(05-11-2022 12:14 PM)Todor Wrote:  You mean the west wasn’t going to invade Russia AGAIN for a, what, 5th, 6th time? Of course not. Russia must have imagined all of the other times.

The US troops that invaded to try to boost the Whites pretty much ended up setting the tone for the entire Cold War. Invade and interfere in someone else’s civil war and it doesn’t set a good tone for the future relations FYI.

Enlighten me about the previous 4-5 "invasions" by the west? Napoleon in 1812, Hitler in 41... Who all am I missing? Also, has NATO ever invaded the motherland? Thanks.

(05-11-2022 12:14 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 07:58 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(05-06-2022 01:20 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(05-06-2022 12:25 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  I'll just come out and say it. This administration and a lot of folks in Congress appear to want to get us into a shooting war (not a proxy war) with a nuclear armed state.

Otherwise they wouldn't be bragging on TV about helping shoot down a Russian troop transport plane, sinking ships, etc. They'd stay quiet about it.

The US has been consistently gunning for coups in any country associated with Russia in a friendly way. Georgia, Syria, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, and others.

Syria and Ukraine were the top of the list because of Russian bases there. If the international bankers can’t control Russia, they will do their best to destroy it.

If Russia gave up control of its central bank to the international cartel, they could invade any country they want and be hailed as doing Gods work.

You must be Putin’s grandson getting an education in the good ole US of A.

I will say it again. Absolutely no body from the west was EVER going to invade Russia. Russia is the sole aggressor here and should not be allowed by the world community to be successful in this atrocity.

You mean the west wasn’t going to invade Russia AGAIN for a, what, 5th, 6th time? Of course not. Russia must have imagined all of the other times.

The US troops that invaded to try to boost the Whites pretty much ended up setting the tone for the entire Cold War. Invade and interfere in someone else’s civil war and it doesn’t set a good tone for the future relations FYI.

But its ok for your buddy Putin to intervene in Georgia's, Moldova's, Ukraine's and Azerbaijan's civil wars? And to actually start some of those wars? To send troops to murder civilians in Belorus and Kazakhstan to put down civil unrest?

US intervention in the Russian Civil War was pretty minor. It was mainly British and japanese. And I don't think they really knew what their objective was other than to stop supplies from getting to the Germans. After the Germans surrendered, it seems like inertia. They fought both sides at times.

(05-11-2022 11:41 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 11:34 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 08:12 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  The simple reason NATO does not want a full out shooting war with Russia is because Russia would very quickly be reduced to a trash heap with the only game piece left being nukes.

Well in the process, Poland, the Baltics and Germany would take a lot of damage from Russian artillery and missiles.

If Russians are stupid enough to get Germany involved. All of h3ll is going to poured upon them. I can't believe Russia is stupid enough to fool around with Germany or japan. Far superior advanced civilizations than their own who have a history of superior warfare. Deep freeze Russian winter won't save them this time.

Germany is the EU

(05-11-2022 03:39 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Germany is the EU

Germany/France is the EU. Anything that the 2 of them agree on, is final within the EU. Things they disagree on, the little brothers get a vote.

(05-11-2022 03:47 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 03:39 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Germany is the EU

Germany/France is the EU. Anything that the 2 of them agree on, is final within the EU. Things they disagree on, the little brothers get a vote.

the WEF has many an arm(s)...

/rhetorical

(05-11-2022 03:39 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 11:41 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 11:34 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 08:12 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  The simple reason NATO does not want a full out shooting war with Russia is because Russia would very quickly be reduced to a trash heap with the only game piece left being nukes.

Well in the process, Poland, the Baltics and Germany would take a lot of damage from Russian artillery and missiles.

If Russians are stupid enough to get Germany involved. All of h3ll is going to poured upon them. I can't believe Russia is stupid enough to fool around with Germany or japan. Far superior advanced civilizations than their own who have a history of superior warfare. Deep freeze Russian winter won't save them this time.

Germany is the EU

Pretty sure a missile attack on Germany will not go over without a military response. Don’t be naive.

Russia Suspends Most Offensive Operations in Reaction to Ukraine's Surprising Counteroffensive