The US is certainly angling for a war with Russia. No other reason to have spent billions in Ukraine going back a decade, as Victoria Nuland bragged about. NATO, the defensive aggressor.

(05-06-2022 12:15 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  Fox News: Russia says it won't use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, despite threatening rhetoric

A Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson claims that Moscow will not unleash nuclear weapons during the war in Ukraine despite top officials' threatening rhetoric in recent weeks.

Alexei Zaitsev said Friday that "we have repeatedly refuted insinuations about Russia’s possible use of nuclear weapons in the course of the special military operation in Ukraine," which has now lasted 72 days.

"Russia adheres to the principal that there can be no winners in a nuclear war and it must not be unleashed," Zaitsev added, according to a translation from Reuters.

"Russia is aware of the threat posed by irresponsible behavior in this area," he also said. "Scenarios for Russia’s possible use of nuclear weapons are clearly spelled out in Russian doctrine. They are not applicable to tasks in the special military operation in Ukraine."

In late April, Russia escalated the threat of nuclear warfare by alleging that, with the support of the U.S., Ukraine is developing nuclear weapons.

"The need for demilitarization is due to the fact that Ukraine, saturated with weapons, poses a threat to Russia, including from the point of view of the development and use of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons," Secretary of the Russian Security Council Nikolai Patrushev said, according to state-owned news agencies.

Russia Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov also said at the time that the threat of nuclear conflict amid the war in Ukraine "should not be underestimated."

"The danger is serious," Lavrov told Russian media. "It is real. It should not be underestimated."

President Biden later said "no one should be making idle comments about the use of nuclear weapons or the possibility of the use, it's irresponsible."

Lavrov is a loose cannon. He was the one who talked about Hitler being a Nazi and nearly convinced the Israelis to send arms to the Ukraine.

I'll just come out and say it. This administration and a lot of folks in Congress appear to want to get us into a shooting war (not a proxy war) with a nuclear armed state.

Otherwise they wouldn't be bragging on TV about helping shoot down a Russian troop transport plane, sinking ships, etc. They'd stay quiet about it.

(05-06-2022 12:25 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  I'll just come out and say it. This administration and a lot of folks in Congress appear to want to get us into a shooting war (not a proxy war) with a nuclear armed state.

Otherwise they wouldn't be bragging on TV about helping shoot down a Russian troop transport plane, sinking ships, etc. They'd stay quiet about it.

There is another possibility. They are seriously stupid and lacking in common sense.

That would follow their pattern on just about every other issue.

(05-06-2022 12:24 PM)Todor Wrote:  The US is certainly angling for a war with Russia. No other reason to have spent billions in Ukraine going back a decade, as Victoria Nuland bragged about. NATO, the defensive aggressor.

And the rapid build up of the their military along with development of nuclear doomsday weapons---by sweet little innocent Russia---along with a slew of aggressive Russian army incursions into neighboring nations---by your own definition amounts to some pretty massive war mongering. Historically, Russian expansionism only stops when they meet serious military resistance. Well---they pushed until they hit serious resistance. If they have to eat massive military and economic losses---I have no sympathy for them. They reap what they sow. Its their own fault for not knowing when to quit while they are ahead. lol---they might be the first modern navy to lose a naval battle to a nation with no navy.

(05-06-2022 12:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-06-2022 12:25 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  I'll just come out and say it. This administration and a lot of folks in Congress appear to want to get us into a shooting war (not a proxy war) with a nuclear armed state.

Otherwise they wouldn't be bragging on TV about helping shoot down a Russian troop transport plane, sinking ships, etc. They'd stay quiet about it.

There is another possibility. They are seriously stupid and lacking in common sense.

That would follow their pattern on just about every other issue.

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^

(05-06-2022 12:25 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  I'll just come out and say it. This administration and a lot of folks in Congress appear to want to get us into a shooting war (not a proxy war) with a nuclear armed state.

Otherwise they wouldn't be bragging on TV about helping shoot down a Russian troop transport plane, sinking ships, etc. They'd stay quiet about it.

The US has been consistently gunning for coups in any country associated with Russia in a friendly way. Georgia, Syria, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, and others.

Syria and Ukraine were the top of the list because of Russian bases there. If the international bankers can’t control Russia, they will do their best to destroy it.

If Russia gave up control of its central bank to the international cartel, they could invade any country they want and be hailed as doing Gods work.

It seems to me the US and Europe were perfectly happy intertwining their economies with Russia right up until Russia began the first violent unwarranted expansionist war in Europe in almost 80 years. If Russia would just keep their armies inside their own massive borders, things would be fine. I mean--jeez Louise---how much much land do 144 million Russians (with a rapidly shrinking population) really require? Thats already less than half the population of the US living on nearly twice the land mass. You'd think that would be enough.

I know a few Putin fan boys think NATO wants a war---but thats simply wrong headed. If NATO wanted a war---they have plenty of provocation and reason to go to war. The fact there isnt direct intervention by NATO is the clearest indication that NATO doesnt seek a war. We have seen multiple NATO members engage in direct talks with Putin to try to convince Putin to solve his issues via negotiations. Its become quite clear over the last 6 months that if Putin didnt want a war---there wouldnt have been one.

Nice jab at "Victory Day" by Ukraine's Ministry of Defense! "The traditional parade of the Russian Black Sea fleet on May 9 this year will be held near Snake Island - at the bottom of the sea." -

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1522897994701549573

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvfAIaPiMGY

German TV Russians stalled again.

(05-07-2022 11:48 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  Nice jab at "Victory Day" by Ukraine's Ministry of Defense! "The traditional parade of the Russian Black Sea fleet on May 9 this year will be held near Snake Island - at the bottom of the sea." -

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1522897994701549573

Good analysis of Russia's "near-term military objectives" in Ukraine -

https://www.axios.com/2022/05/10/us-inte...utin-goals

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-61353374
"...The head of the UN human rights monitoring mission in Ukraine, Matilda Bogner says it's received reports of rape, forced nudity and threats of sexual violence after visiting 14 towns in the Kyiv and Chernihiv regions.

"Women and girls are the most frequently cited victims," she says.

Since the invasion in February, the UN says it has documented 204 cases of enforced disappearance.

As well as highlighting acts carried out by Russian forces, the UN briefing adds: "We have received credible information of torture, ill-treatment and incommunicado detention by Ukrainian armed forces of prisoners of war belonging to the Russian armed forces and affiliated armed groups."

Russia and Ukraine "must promptly and effectively investigate" these allegations and "instruct their forces" to stop further violations, Bogner says.

The UN says it has also recorded hundreds of educational and medical facilities and about 50 places of worship being damaged or destroyed across Ukraine...."

Kind of amusing story on Russian bots globally. They are stealing faces.
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61351342

"...Indian influencer ER Yamini has never tweeted in her life - she prefers to cultivate her big fan bases on Instagram and YouTube.

But in early March, a Twitter account using her picture tweeted: "#IStandWithPutin. True Friendship" accompanied by a video showing two men hugging - one representing India, the other, Russia.

Yamini says she doesn't support either country in the Russia-Ukraine war, and worries about her fans.

"If they see that tweet, what will they think about me?" she asks, "I wish they wouldn't use my photo on that profile....""

"...It tracked 9,907 profiles promoting support for Russia on 2 and 3 March, in several different languages. CASM found more than 1,000 of those accounts had spam-like characteristics...."

(05-10-2022 02:13 PM)bullet Wrote:  Kind of amusing story on Russian bots globally. They are stealing faces.
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-61351342

"...Indian influencer ER Yamini has never tweeted in her life - she prefers to cultivate her big fan bases on Instagram and YouTube.

But in early March, a Twitter account using her picture tweeted: "#IStandWithPutin. True Friendship" accompanied by a video showing two men hugging - one representing India, the other, Russia.

Yamini says she doesn't support either country in the Russia-Ukraine war, and worries about her fans.

"If they see that tweet, what will they think about me?" she asks, "I wish they wouldn't use my photo on that profile....""

"...It tracked 9,907 profiles promoting support for Russia on 2 and 3 March, in several different languages. CASM found more than 1,000 of those accounts had spam-like characteristics...."

A certain poster on this board comes to mind...

(05-10-2022 09:47 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  Good analysis of Russia's "near-term military objectives" in Ukraine -

https://www.axios.com/2022/05/10/us-inte...utin-goals

axios

Its all good now though

(05-10-2022 03:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

Its all good now though

But they stuck a Jew in to be the face of things so it can’t be questioned lol. They’re all laughing all the way to the bank with our money too.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/10...e-liveblog

"...A US citizen in Ukraine who had been accused of espionage and held by Russian forces was being evacuated to Poland with two family members after his release was secured by a private volunteer group from Florida, Reuters has reported the group as having said.

Kirillo Alexandrov, 27, was arrested with his spouse and mother-in-law in late March outside the city of Kherson as they were trying to flee the region following its occupation by Russian troops. This is according to Project Dynamo, a Tampa-based group first formed to rescue Americans and others from Afghanistan last year.

Dynamo said Russian forces held Alexandrov on nearly a dozen criminal charges related to allegations that he was spying for the US government, which Dynamo said were fabricated. He was interrogated and was destined for transfer to Moscow, “where he would presumably be leveraged for propaganda and then imprisoned,” the Florida-based group said in a statement...."

So Russia thought they had the right to accuse an American in Ukraine of espionage against Russia? It would be one thing if he were in Russia. Just a bunch of lawless orcs.

(05-10-2022 03:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

Its all good now though

This - right here - is the main issue with the legacy media today. Based on legacy reporting alone plus knowing the legacy media engages in deceitful practices to support certain political parties we have no idea if this collage was cherry picked stories from a small minority of extremists or if Ukraine is a true blue budding neo Nazi state.

You could easily make a similar collage of right wing extremist groups to paint the U.S. to look like Nazis. You could also find a bunch of leftist extremist groups - with plenty of pics available from 2020 - to make the U.S. look like a neo-communist state worshipping the likes of Lenin and Stalin.

IMHO the true root cause of so much evil in the Western nations can ultimately be laid at the feet of legacy media who are in bed with specific political parties in the U.S. and the various other European nations. By their nature, political parties are designed to destroy all opposition parties like a locusts do to crops. It's the legacy media's job to act as the check and balance to the excesses of political parties.