(03-26-2022 12:50 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Before I catch any grief for saying I'm not shocked, it's not meant as a diss on Memphis. It's just that these are the facts:

1 - Memphis has had recruiting violations in the past, meaning that they are under the NCAA's microscope. Unlike certain bluebloods such as UNC and Kansas, they get the book thrown at them.

2 - Penny was an AAU coach with no college coaching experience.

3 - Memphis has been pulling in blue chip recruits left and right... fair or not, that's going to draw some scrutiny. We all know there is some tom foolery involved with the recruitment of nearly all 5-star talent.

4 - Larry Brown was brought onto the staff. He had his own violations less than a decade ago.

Not a Memphis hater, and I hope they pull through this. But no one can say they didn't see this coming.

i agree. it also sounds like quite a bit revolves around wisemen - we all knew that was a cluster, as it was going on. sounds like its coming back to bite them.

(03-26-2022 02:14 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  Lack of institutional control? I mean how dare they act like a P5 program.

Maybe they can lawyer up like UNC who ran fake class scams for 20 years and get the "Carolina Treatment"?

Whatever it was, they just need to claim that all students had the same dishonest opportunities as athletes so therefore the NCAA has no jurisdiction. The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools can then give them a slap on the wrist probation like they did for Kerliner. Easy-peasy.

Not surprised in the least.

(03-26-2022 01:28 PM)b2b Wrote:  We all knew.

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They're incapable of not cheating.

Memphis probably not on big 12 list for expansion anymore.

(03-26-2022 01:49 PM)mikeinoki Wrote:  Couldn't read that article (paywall), but read the Commercial Appeal article. This nugget was interesting...

Quote:the amended notice of allegations charges that data from a computer hard drive belonging to a former assistant coach was not preserved. The university's response indicated the computer belonged to Mike Miller. "A subsequent forensic examination revealed that the former assistant men’s basketball coach’s computer hard drive was formatted on June 5, 2020, and as a result, the data on the computer was deleted," the amended notice of allegations states. "The Institution failed to conduct an adequate investigation into why the computer’s hard drive was not preserved."

Link: University of Memphis charged with multiple Level I violations as part of NCAA's investigation

A good computer tech could read what was on the formatted disk, unless all of the old data received multiple overwrites from a program like CCleaner. Deleting and formatting does not remove old files, it just makes them harder to find.

True---(I suspect they can get the data if they really want it) but I think the NCAA's trying to say the act of reformatting in and of itself represents an instance of failing to cooperate. If I were Memphis I'd just hire lawyers and take the NCAA to court. The NCAA basically folds like a cheap suit every time anyone uses the legal system. Their selective enforcement track record and lack of proper procedure generally ends up being very difficult to defend in court.

hopefully memphis comes out of it...but its the ncaa and memphis isn't blue blood.

the way the ncaa is setup and the way they treated the wiseman case ...hook them.

(03-26-2022 02:33 PM)OhioBobcatJohn Wrote:  Memphis probably not on big 12 list for expansion anymore.

I have seen a few posts like this and I ron’t get it. If Memphis was or is a B12 candidate, its due to their ability to draw fans and viewers. Both have been pretty good for Memphis and that is all that will matter.
However, it is cheating situations like this, along with NIL and power conference entitlement, which is driving me away from being a fan of college sports.

Penny, Penny, Penny…



Hate to be that guy who says I toldja so….never mind…we all said this would happen.

Upside is all the cheating and it’s only a single first round NCAA game that will need to be vacated. None of that pesky success to mess with taking off the books.

(03-26-2022 03:00 PM)vick mike Wrote:  

(03-26-2022 02:33 PM)OhioBobcatJohn Wrote:  Memphis probably not on big 12 list for expansion anymore.

I have seen a few posts like this and I ron’t get it. If Memphis was or is a B12 candidate, its due to their ability to draw fans and viewers. Both have been pretty good for Memphis and that is all that will matter.
However, it is cheating situations like this, along with NIL and power conference entitlement, which is driving me away from being a fan of college sports.

Why would you voluntarily add a program that isn't capable of success without cheating? Memphis isn't in the B12 discussion otherwise.

One tourney appearance and not even a Sweet 16. Worth it Memphis?

(03-26-2022 03:00 PM)vick mike Wrote:  

(03-26-2022 02:33 PM)OhioBobcatJohn Wrote:  Memphis probably not on big 12 list for expansion anymore.

I have seen a few posts like this and I ron’t get it. If Memphis was or is a B12 candidate, its due to their ability to draw fans and viewers. Both have been pretty good for Memphis and that is all that will matter.
However, it is cheating situations like this, along with NIL and power conference entitlement, which is driving me away from being a fan of college sports.

That attendance and great tv ratings is gonna take a hit with the losing the probable sanctions cause, Ron Mexico.

So..... Jank is free, follows LB and has experience as “the probation coach.”
Total no brainer.

Where’s TripleA at to tell us this is a nothingburger? He usually flocks to the scene whenever the word “Memphis” is dropped around here.

Funny how literally everyone except the folks in Memphis knew some shady Penny stuff was going on.

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Memphis Memphis Memphis ....

Must be something in the water down there, sure isn't anything new......

(03-26-2022 12:19 PM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  Maybe we can hire UNT's coach...

Ha! I respect Memphis for their basketball accomplishments, but I don't think they have the same kind of money SMU has... and that wasn't enough to snatch Mac from UNT. Factor in the impending NCAA penalties (scholarship limits?, post season tournament bans?,... who knows), and I think the Memphis job becomes kind of hard sell.

But I have to wonder, will Memphis keep Penny, or look to change direction?

(03-26-2022 08:11 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(03-26-2022 12:19 PM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  Maybe we can hire UNT's coach...

Ha! I respect Memphis for their basketball accomplishments, but I don't think they have the same kind of money SMU has... and that wasn't enough to snatch Mac from UNT. Factor in the impending NCAA penalties (scholarship limits?, post season tournament bans?,... who knows), and I think the Memphis job becomes kind of hard sell.

But I have to wonder, will Memphis keep Penny, or look to change direction?

Lol