Howard has said no, but this is long term target. HBCU Game Day has been a really tuned in program.

I wonder if Fairfield is still in the picture. Matt Brown, anything?

I can't imagine they sit on an odd number for too long in Basketball. FCS Football you can do that (8 games no CCG), but it's funky in basketball.

Its gotta be Howard or another Southern non football school

(02-17-2022 09:36 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  

(02-17-2022 07:33 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(02-17-2022 06:54 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  I have lost track of CAA expansion changes. Could someone please list what their FUTURE lineup will look like-- showing schools with FB and without.

Do they have 13 for future FB?

How many teams overall?

Do they have any FB only members?

THANK YOU in advance.

Assuming NC A&T to the CAA, here's what the league will look like in the 2022-23 academic year:

Full members with FB (8): Delaware, Elon, Hampton, Monmouth, NC A&T, Stony Brook, Towson, William & Mary
FB-only members (6): Albany, Maine, New Hampshire, Richmond, Rhode Island, Villanova
Full members w/o FB (5): Charleston, Drexel, Hofstra, Northeastern, UNC Wilmington

Total full members = 13
Total FB members = 14

I expect they'll add a non-FB member to even that 13 out to 14.

CAA Football is a separate legal entity from the CAA. The CAA doesn’t sponsor football.

As far as the NCAA is concerned, the CAA sponsors football. They group the CAA with the other FCS leagues and the MVC with the other non-FB leagues.

(02-17-2022 10:18 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Its gotta be Howard or another Southern non football school

If it isn’t Howard then Winthrop should be at the top of the list. UNC-G would be a good fit too but I can’t see 3 conference members within 25 minutes of one another existing harmoniously in a one bid league.

(02-17-2022 05:37 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  https://hbcugameday.com/2022/02/17/nc-at...ve-to-caa/

IMO, neither NCAT or Hampton should have left the MEAC.

This musical chairs is the result.

(02-17-2022 11:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-17-2022 05:37 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  https://hbcugameday.com/2022/02/17/nc-at...ve-to-caa/

IMO, neither NCAT or Hampton should have left the MEAC.

This musical chairs, flailing away outside of their natural HBCU home, is the result.

It speaks to terrible MEAC leadership, an inability to monetize the league like the SWAC has.

Norfolk, Central, and SC State are in the driver's seat for which football league they want to save

(02-17-2022 11:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-17-2022 05:37 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  https://hbcugameday.com/2022/02/17/nc-at...ve-to-caa/

IMO, neither NCAT or Hampton should have left the MEAC.

This musical chairs is the result.

They wanted to expand their brand and play more games closer to their school and alumni base.

(02-17-2022 11:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-17-2022 05:37 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  https://hbcugameday.com/2022/02/17/nc-at...ve-to-caa/

IMO, neither NCAT or Hampton should have left the MEAC.

This musical chairs is the result.

I loved the late 2000s MEAC they had planned. I remember watching a FAMU@WSSU Thursday night ESPNU game where the Commissioner was interviewed, beaming with pride they had landed NCCU to complete the A&T/NCCU/WSSU trifecta.

The next day, WSSU announced they were dropping down. The Commissioner had no idea. It’s been all down hill for the MEAC since.

That planned 14-team MEAC was perfect, IMO:
Delaware St
Morgan St
Coppin St
UMES
Howard
Hampton
Norfolk St
Winston-Salem St
NC A&T
NC Central
SC State
Savannah St
Bethune-Cookman
FAMU

It's considerate of A&T to hold off on moving football this upcoming year. With the apparent addition of Bryant to Big South Football, A&T staying gives them another year at 6 and time to avoid falling below 6 members

(02-17-2022 07:33 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(02-17-2022 06:54 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  I have lost track of CAA expansion changes. Could someone please list what their FUTURE lineup will look like-- showing schools with FB and without.

Do they have 13 for future FB?

How many teams overall?

Do they have any FB only members?

THANK YOU in advance.

Assuming NC A&T to the CAA, here's what the league will look like in the 2022-23 academic year:

Full members with FB (8): Delaware, Elon, Hampton, Monmouth, NC A&T, Stony Brook, Towson, William & Mary
FB-only members (6): Albany, Maine, New Hampshire, Richmond, Rhode Island, Villanova
Full members w/o FB (5): Charleston, Drexel, Hofstra, Northeastern, UNC Wilmington

Total full members = 13
Total FB members = 14

I expect they'll add a non-FB member to even that 13 out to 14.

You've got to question why Stony Brook agreed to go CAA if its on the heels of adding Hampton and NCA&T.

The conference doesn't seem to have much direction beyond adding the most viable members that will say yes.

Its a very untraditional type of alignment to have Stony Brook in with Monmouth and NC A&T in with UNCW. Speaks of WAC style desperation. Its a conference very lacking in cultural similarities at the moment.

(02-17-2022 11:48 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(02-17-2022 07:33 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(02-17-2022 06:54 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  I have lost track of CAA expansion changes. Could someone please list what their FUTURE lineup will look like-- showing schools with FB and without.

Do they have 13 for future FB?

How many teams overall?

Do they have any FB only members?

THANK YOU in advance.

Assuming NC A&T to the CAA, here's what the league will look like in the 2022-23 academic year:

Full members with FB (8): Delaware, Elon, Hampton, Monmouth, NC A&T, Stony Brook, Towson, William & Mary
FB-only members (6): Albany, Maine, New Hampshire, Richmond, Rhode Island, Villanova
Full members w/o FB (5): Charleston, Drexel, Hofstra, Northeastern, UNC Wilmington

Total full members = 13
Total FB members = 14

I expect they'll add a non-FB member to even that 13 out to 14.

You've got to question why Stony Brook agreed to go CAA if its on the heels of adding Hampton and NCA&T.

The conference doesn't seem to have much direction beyond adding the most viable members that will say yes.

Its a very untraditional type of alignment to have Stony Brook in with Monmouth and NC A&T in with UNCW. Speaks of WAC style desperation. Its a conference very lacking in cultural similarities at the moment.

2 divisions with minimal interaction appears to be the goal

A&T has more of an alumni base in the cities where the CAA has schools like Baltimore and Philly. Still, in the basketball division, they would play the vast majority of their games in the Carolinas and southern Virginia.

It’s either High Point or Campbell or UNCG for 14 if they want a southern member unless the CAA wants to go off the map and choose someone like a Jacksonville or a North Florida.

(02-18-2022 12:58 AM)sctvman Wrote:  A&T has more of an alumni base in the cities where the CAA has schools like Baltimore and Philly. Still, in the basketball division, they would play the vast majority of their games in the Carolinas and southern Virginia.

It’s either High Point or Campbell or UNCG for 14 if they want a southern member unless the CAA wants to go off the map and choose someone like a Jacksonville or a North Florida.

The SoCon schools said they aren't coming and raised the exit fees a couple wks ago. SO UNCG is out. Big South school if it's the south.

(02-17-2022 11:19 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(02-17-2022 11:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-17-2022 05:37 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  https://hbcugameday.com/2022/02/17/nc-at...ve-to-caa/

IMO, neither NCAT or Hampton should have left the MEAC.

This musical chairs is the result.

They wanted to expand their brand and play more games closer to their school and alumni base.

Oh I don't doubt that the admins at NCAT and Hampton have their reasons for leaving the MEAC for the Big South and now the CAA, I just question whether they made the right decision. IMO, they are best served in the MEAC.

UNC-Pembroke is the best candidate to go into the Big South.

Over the past 5 years, the MEAC must feel like it's been raided by Vikings in a European coastal town in the 9th century.

To keep the conference viable, is it possible it may extend invites to Virginia State and/or Virginia Union out of the CIAA? I seem to recall someone mentioned both schools as possible adds a few years ago (when I was more of a lurker and not a poster here). At the time, I think someone said VSU and VUU weren't interested in moving up to D-1.

(02-17-2022 07:02 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(02-17-2022 06:23 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(02-17-2022 05:59 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(02-17-2022 05:54 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  Yikes, UNCW must hate this, right?

Why?

It’s giving another public NC school “a rub” for hoops. What does UNCW get from it?

Supposedly, CoC and Elon (was to be Davidson) were the peace offerings to UNCW back then. That UNCG and UNCA need not apply. I mean, things change (as it reflects with Stony getting in despite Hofstra). But these moves are just curious.

No offense, but I don’t think CAA was really itching to be MEAC malcontents’ landing spots?

UNCW has been begging for more Southern teams for 20 plus years. While it's not the basketball knockout we would want they are a solid overall athletic program that we can bus.

When the SoCon schools said no the Big South schools were the next best option.

Curious who the #14 add will be. Expecting a Southern non football to balance everything

But with your Big South and SoCon options there, why a MEAC squad for everything? If this was about football, I’m left with more tangential questions about how things are going within ASun or OVC that a CAAF-only invite couldn’t suffice. Like, when did A&T carry such cache?

I mean, maybe UNCG doesn’t want to leave SoCon. But, the HPU’s, UNCA’s, or other southern schools, like Winthrop, USC Upstate…couldn’t happen for them?

With the way Howard is dying on the hill for MEAC, I would be SHOCKED if they took an invite to CAA, honestly. If the distance wasn’t so egregious for them, they’d probably be happier in SWAC.

(02-18-2022 08:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-17-2022 11:19 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(02-17-2022 11:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-17-2022 05:37 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  https://hbcugameday.com/2022/02/17/nc-at...ve-to-caa/

IMO, neither NCAT or Hampton should have left the MEAC.

This musical chairs is the result.

They wanted to expand their brand and play more games closer to their school and alumni base.

Oh I don't doubt that the admins at NCAT and Hampton have their reasons for leaving the MEAC for the Big South and now the CAA, I just question whether they made the right decision. IMO, they are best served in the MEAC.

I actually think with the extra cache the CAA will bring- I think both Hampton and A&T could do really well.