(02-03-2022 11:28 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 09:42 AM)CYOWA Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 12:16 AM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(01-26-2022 10:25 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(01-26-2022 12:47 AM)FreshPrinceOfDarkness Wrote:  Tech alum here. Our TV overlords will decide our final alignment, assuming we still have TV overlords. Fingers crossed. That's it. We're familiar with this rodeo. It won't include more teams. If SMU or Memphis moved the needle they'd already have an invite. As to my bias: I love the current round-robin play in basketball. I prefer to stay at 8-10 teams because it's the most balanced and fair arrangement. Tech beat Baylor at home, but in a few weeks Baylor has an opportunity for revenge playing Tech in Lubbock this year. Fair.

As for adding more teams, what you're not paying attention to is that going to 14-16 teams means you play teams in your division every year but only rarely play your out of division teams. That's not a good recipe for strong conference cohesion. Aggie fans were baffled and disappointed that they only play Florida and other SEC West teams every 4-6 years. (Note: I laughed at the Aggie posts but didn't check the math so fix the number if it's wrong.)

Why were Ags upset? The most important reason is that rivalries require familiarity (play every year) plus [@&*%!!!] plus years and even decades to develop. Arkansas left the Southwest Conference for the SEC about 35+ years ago and Hog fans will admit Arky has never developed a SEC rival. The Hogs' rival was always Texas. The Horns don't care about Arky anymore but the Hogs are ecstatic that UT is joining the SEC. So lack of rivalries may also be an issue because you either develop rivalries in your division...or you have no rival. And the new B12 teams better develop rivalries quick to ensure conference cohesion.

Finally, I'm not complaining. Just pointing out that we must establish a shared identity ASAP, and that means years not decades or this conference is toast.

Really the only teams without rivals in this league would be BYU and UCF. West Virginia and Cincy have each other, the Texas teams have each other, and Iowa State, KU, and Kansas State have each other as well.

Meh, OSU doesn’t have a rival. People may try to force a rivalry, but it just ain’t there.


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Do you know if there are plans to continue the Bedlam series?

Sooners, Razorbacks, Golden Hurricane?

No room for the Zeros, see below.
Home and away with Arkansas in 24 and 27, but not enough games for a rival, but weren’t we discussing conference rivals?
Tulsa is on the schedule for the next 8 or 10 years, but not a real rival and not in conference, but good for recruiting and travel for fan base.
Future P5 home and aways:
Arizona St, Oregon and Alabama.


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(02-03-2022 01:13 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 11:28 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 09:42 AM)CYOWA Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 12:16 AM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(01-26-2022 10:25 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  Really the only teams without rivals in this league would be BYU and UCF. West Virginia and Cincy have each other, the Texas teams have each other, and Iowa State, KU, and Kansas State have each other as well.

Meh, OSU doesn’t have a rival. People may try to force a rivalry, but it just ain’t there.


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Do you know if there are plans to continue the Bedlam series?

Sooners, Razorbacks, Golden Hurricane?

No room for the Zeros, see below.
Home and away with Arkansas in 24 and 27, but not enough games for a rival, but weren’t we discussing conference rivals?
Tulsa is on the schedule for the next 8 or 10 years, but not a real rival and not in conference, but good for recruiting and travel for fan base.
Future P5 home and aways:
Arizona St, Oregon and Alabama.


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That’s on you

(02-03-2022 02:43 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 01:13 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 11:28 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 09:42 AM)CYOWA Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 12:16 AM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  Meh, OSU doesn’t have a rival. People may try to force a rivalry, but it just ain’t there.


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Do you know if there are plans to continue the Bedlam series?

Sooners, Razorbacks, Golden Hurricane?

No room for the Zeros, see below.
Home and away with Arkansas in 24 and 27, but not enough games for a rival, but weren’t we discussing conference rivals?
Tulsa is on the schedule for the next 8 or 10 years, but not a real rival and not in conference, but good for recruiting and travel for fan base.
Future P5 home and aways:
Arizona St, Oregon and Alabama.


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That’s on you

How so?


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(02-03-2022 01:13 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 11:28 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 09:42 AM)CYOWA Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 12:16 AM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(01-26-2022 10:25 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  Really the only teams without rivals in this league would be BYU and UCF. West Virginia and Cincy have each other, the Texas teams have each other, and Iowa State, KU, and Kansas State have each other as well.

Meh, OSU doesn’t have a rival. People may try to force a rivalry, but it just ain’t there.


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Do you know if there are plans to continue the Bedlam series?

Sooners, Razorbacks, Golden Hurricane?

No room for the Zeros, see below.
Home and away with Arkansas in 24 and 27, but not enough games for a rival, but weren’t we discussing conference rivals?
Tulsa is on the schedule for the next 8 or 10 years, but not a real rival and not in conference, but good for recruiting and travel for fan base.
Future P5 home and aways:
Arizona St, Oregon and Alabama.


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Texas Tech? They’re pretty close

(02-05-2022 09:18 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 01:13 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 11:28 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 09:42 AM)CYOWA Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 12:16 AM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  Meh, OSU doesn’t have a rival. People may try to force a rivalry, but it just ain’t there.


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Do you know if there are plans to continue the Bedlam series?

Sooners, Razorbacks, Golden Hurricane?

No room for the Zeros, see below.
Home and away with Arkansas in 24 and 27, but not enough games for a rival, but weren’t we discussing conference rivals?
Tulsa is on the schedule for the next 8 or 10 years, but not a real rival and not in conference, but good for recruiting and travel for fan base.
Future P5 home and aways:
Arizona St, Oregon and Alabama.


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Texas Tech? They’re pretty close

A rivalry needs to be the one (or two) game on your schedule and your rival’s schedule you and they circle, make plans for, enjoy winning most, hate losing most kinda game. With OU and UT leaving, that game just doesn’t exist for OSU. Maybe in 10 or 20 years something may emerge, but there’s just nothing there now with any of the other 11 teams.


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(02-05-2022 10:03 AM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 09:18 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 01:13 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 11:28 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 09:42 AM)CYOWA Wrote:  Do you know if there are plans to continue the Bedlam series?

Sooners, Razorbacks, Golden Hurricane?

No room for the Zeros, see below.
Home and away with Arkansas in 24 and 27, but not enough games for a rival, but weren’t we discussing conference rivals?
Tulsa is on the schedule for the next 8 or 10 years, but not a real rival and not in conference, but good for recruiting and travel for fan base.
Future P5 home and aways:
Arizona St, Oregon and Alabama.


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Texas Tech? They’re pretty close

A rivalry needs to be the one (or two) game on your schedule and your rival’s schedule you and they circle, make plans for, enjoy winning most, hate losing most kinda game. With OU and UT leaving, that game just doesn’t exist for OSU. Maybe in 10 or 20 years something may emerge, but there’s just nothing there now with any of the other 11 teams.


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With OU leaving.

I don't think OSU considered UT a rival, yea?

Where there any other Big 8 teams that OSU had a rivalry with?

TT OSU seems like there could be a rivalry building there that could develop with a few more annual matchups.

(02-05-2022 02:27 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 10:03 AM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 09:18 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 01:13 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 11:28 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  Sooners, Razorbacks, Golden Hurricane?

No room for the Zeros, see below.
Home and away with Arkansas in 24 and 27, but not enough games for a rival, but weren’t we discussing conference rivals?
Tulsa is on the schedule for the next 8 or 10 years, but not a real rival and not in conference, but good for recruiting and travel for fan base.
Future P5 home and aways:
Arizona St, Oregon and Alabama.


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Texas Tech? They’re pretty close

A rivalry needs to be the one (or two) game on your schedule and your rival’s schedule you and they circle, make plans for, enjoy winning most, hate losing most kinda game. With OU and UT leaving, that game just doesn’t exist for OSU. Maybe in 10 or 20 years something may emerge, but there’s just nothing there now with any of the other 11 teams.


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With OU leaving.

I don't think OSU considered UT a rival, yea?

Where there any other Big 8 teams that OSU had a rivalry with?

TT OSU seems like there could be a rivalry building there that could develop with a few more annual matchups.

Rivals don’t have to be in the same conference. Often they are not.

(02-05-2022 03:29 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 02:27 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 10:03 AM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 09:18 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 01:13 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  No room for the Zeros, see below.
Home and away with Arkansas in 24 and 27, but not enough games for a rival, but weren’t we discussing conference rivals?
Tulsa is on the schedule for the next 8 or 10 years, but not a real rival and not in conference, but good for recruiting and travel for fan base.
Future P5 home and aways:
Arizona St, Oregon and Alabama.


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Texas Tech? They’re pretty close

A rivalry needs to be the one (or two) game on your schedule and your rival’s schedule you and they circle, make plans for, enjoy winning most, hate losing most kinda game. With OU and UT leaving, that game just doesn’t exist for OSU. Maybe in 10 or 20 years something may emerge, but there’s just nothing there now with any of the other 11 teams.


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With OU leaving.

I don't think OSU considered UT a rival, yea?

Where there any other Big 8 teams that OSU had a rivalry with?

TT OSU seems like there could be a rivalry building there that could develop with a few more annual matchups.

Rivals don’t have to be in the same conference. Often they are not.

For sure, it just seems like OSU should historically have more than 1 game a year that gets them pumped up.


SMU game is one of my favorites every year.


SMU, Tech and Baylor all the way for TCU.

(02-05-2022 03:29 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 02:27 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 10:03 AM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 09:18 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 01:13 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  No room for the Zeros, see below.
Home and away with Arkansas in 24 and 27, but not enough games for a rival, but weren’t we discussing conference rivals?
Tulsa is on the schedule for the next 8 or 10 years, but not a real rival and not in conference, but good for recruiting and travel for fan base.
Future P5 home and aways:
Arizona St, Oregon and Alabama.


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Texas Tech? They’re pretty close

A rivalry needs to be the one (or two) game on your schedule and your rival’s schedule you and they circle, make plans for, enjoy winning most, hate losing most kinda game. With OU and UT leaving, that game just doesn’t exist for OSU. Maybe in 10 or 20 years something may emerge, but there’s just nothing there now with any of the other 11 teams.


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With OU leaving.

I don't think OSU considered UT a rival, yea?

Where there any other Big 8 teams that OSU had a rivalry with?

TT OSU seems like there could be a rivalry building there that could develop with a few more annual matchups.

Rivals don’t have to be in the same conference. Often they are not.

Please follow along. The discussion was about divisions within the conference and an alignment that would preserve/promote rivalries. OSU has no rivalry to preserve.


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(02-05-2022 02:27 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 10:03 AM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 09:18 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 01:13 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 11:28 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  Sooners, Razorbacks, Golden Hurricane?

No room for the Zeros, see below.
Home and away with Arkansas in 24 and 27, but not enough games for a rival, but weren’t we discussing conference rivals?
Tulsa is on the schedule for the next 8 or 10 years, but not a real rival and not in conference, but good for recruiting and travel for fan base.
Future P5 home and aways:
Arizona St, Oregon and Alabama.


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Texas Tech? They’re pretty close

A rivalry needs to be the one (or two) game on your schedule and your rival’s schedule you and they circle, make plans for, enjoy winning most, hate losing most kinda game. With OU and UT leaving, that game just doesn’t exist for OSU. Maybe in 10 or 20 years something may emerge, but there’s just nothing there now with any of the other 11 teams.


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With OU leaving.

I don't think OSU considered UT a rival, yea?

Where there any other Big 8 teams that OSU had a rivalry with?

TT OSU seems like there could be a rivalry building there that could develop with a few more annual matchups.

Clearly OU was far and away our biggest rival. UT was a distant second which tells you where the rest of the league, including the old Big 8, rates.

We’ve been playing TTech annually for 25 years. That game has no more meaning or importance than any other conference opponent.


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(02-05-2022 05:31 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 02:27 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 10:03 AM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 09:18 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 01:13 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  No room for the Zeros, see below.
Home and away with Arkansas in 24 and 27, but not enough games for a rival, but weren’t we discussing conference rivals?
Tulsa is on the schedule for the next 8 or 10 years, but not a real rival and not in conference, but good for recruiting and travel for fan base.
Future P5 home and aways:
Arizona St, Oregon and Alabama.


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Texas Tech? They’re pretty close

A rivalry needs to be the one (or two) game on your schedule and your rival’s schedule you and they circle, make plans for, enjoy winning most, hate losing most kinda game. With OU and UT leaving, that game just doesn’t exist for OSU. Maybe in 10 or 20 years something may emerge, but there’s just nothing there now with any of the other 11 teams.


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With OU leaving.

I don't think OSU considered UT a rival, yea?

Where there any other Big 8 teams that OSU had a rivalry with?

TT OSU seems like there could be a rivalry building there that could develop with a few more annual matchups.

Clearly OU was far and away our biggest rival. UT was a distant second which tells you where the rest of the league, including the old Big 8, rates.

We’ve been playing TTech annually for 25 years. That game has no more meaning or importance than any other conference opponent.


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You said a rivalry needs to be circled on both sides. You must know that UT doesn't care about OSU right? I mean I don't think OSU would even make the top 10 of schools that UT cares about.

So there must be another former Big 8 school that gets the OSU fanbase's jollies off. Or maybe y'all have always been too busy obsessing over OU?

I agree thought the former Big 8 outside of OU is very underwhelming and hard to get excited about playing against.

(02-06-2022 06:23 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 05:31 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 02:27 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 10:03 AM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 09:18 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  Texas Tech? They’re pretty close

A rivalry needs to be the one (or two) game on your schedule and your rival’s schedule you and they circle, make plans for, enjoy winning most, hate losing most kinda game. With OU and UT leaving, that game just doesn’t exist for OSU. Maybe in 10 or 20 years something may emerge, but there’s just nothing there now with any of the other 11 teams.


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With OU leaving.

I don't think OSU considered UT a rival, yea?

Where there any other Big 8 teams that OSU had a rivalry with?

TT OSU seems like there could be a rivalry building there that could develop with a few more annual matchups.

Clearly OU was far and away our biggest rival. UT was a distant second which tells you where the rest of the league, including the old Big 8, rates.

We’ve been playing TTech annually for 25 years. That game has no more meaning or importance than any other conference opponent.


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You said a rivalry needs to be circled on both sides. You must know that UT doesn't care about OSU right? I mean I don't think OSU would even make the top 10 of schools that UT cares about.

So there must be another former Big 8 school that gets the OSU fanbase's jollies off. Or maybe y'all have always been too busy obsessing over OU?

I agree thought the former Big 8 outside of OU is very underwhelming and hard to get excited about playing against.

I appreciate all the help figuring out who is and who is not a rivalry for OSU. It damn sure isn’t the West Dallas Christian Toads. If there is a rivalry after OU it’s the Whorns. Nobody else comes close to ringing the bell.


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(02-06-2022 08:32 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 06:23 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 05:31 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 02:27 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 10:03 AM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  A rivalry needs to be the one (or two) game on your schedule and your rival’s schedule you and they circle, make plans for, enjoy winning most, hate losing most kinda game. With OU and UT leaving, that game just doesn’t exist for OSU. Maybe in 10 or 20 years something may emerge, but there’s just nothing there now with any of the other 11 teams.


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With OU leaving.

I don't think OSU considered UT a rival, yea?

Where there any other Big 8 teams that OSU had a rivalry with?

TT OSU seems like there could be a rivalry building there that could develop with a few more annual matchups.

Clearly OU was far and away our biggest rival. UT was a distant second which tells you where the rest of the league, including the old Big 8, rates.

We’ve been playing TTech annually for 25 years. That game has no more meaning or importance than any other conference opponent.


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You said a rivalry needs to be circled on both sides. You must know that UT doesn't care about OSU right? I mean I don't think OSU would even make the top 10 of schools that UT cares about.

So there must be another former Big 8 school that gets the OSU fanbase's jollies off. Or maybe y'all have always been too busy obsessing over OU?

I agree thought the former Big 8 outside of OU is very underwhelming and hard to get excited about playing against.

I appreciate all the help figuring out who is and who is not a rivalry for OSU. It damn sure isn’t the West Dallas Christian Toads. If there is a rivalry after OU it’s the Whorns. Nobody else comes close to ringing the bell.


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No problem, I mean I don't doubt for a second that you as an OSU fan get excited to play UT. I don't doubt that your entire fanbase does as well. What I am telling you as an Austinite who has spent a lot of time on UT campus and whose family and friends mostly went to UT and who is currently living in ATX is that I have never in my life ever heard Oklahoma State mentioned. There are literally a dozen schools ahead of OSU on the list of schools that UT and their fans care about. As you said a rivalry needs to be circled by both schools and if you think UT considers OSU a rival or cares about OSU one bit you are mistaken.

No TCU fans don't care about OSU either. I already listed TCU's rivals: SMU, Texas Tech and Baylor.

(02-06-2022 09:23 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 08:32 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 06:23 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 05:31 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 02:27 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  With OU leaving.

I don't think OSU considered UT a rival, yea?

Where there any other Big 8 teams that OSU had a rivalry with?

TT OSU seems like there could be a rivalry building there that could develop with a few more annual matchups.

Clearly OU was far and away our biggest rival. UT was a distant second which tells you where the rest of the league, including the old Big 8, rates.

We’ve been playing TTech annually for 25 years. That game has no more meaning or importance than any other conference opponent.


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You said a rivalry needs to be circled on both sides. You must know that UT doesn't care about OSU right? I mean I don't think OSU would even make the top 10 of schools that UT cares about.

So there must be another former Big 8 school that gets the OSU fanbase's jollies off. Or maybe y'all have always been too busy obsessing over OU?

I agree thought the former Big 8 outside of OU is very underwhelming and hard to get excited about playing against.

I appreciate all the help figuring out who is and who is not a rivalry for OSU. It damn sure isn’t the West Dallas Christian Toads. If there is a rivalry after OU it’s the Whorns. Nobody else comes close to ringing the bell.


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No problem, I mean I don't doubt for a second that you as an OSU fan get excited to play UT. I don't doubt that your entire fanbase does as well. What I am telling you as an Austinite who has spent a lot of time on UT campus and whose family and friends mostly went to UT and who is currently living in ATX is that I have never in my life ever heard Oklahoma State mentioned. There are literally a dozen schools ahead of OSU on the list of schools that UT and their fans care about. As you said a rivalry needs to be circled by both schools and if you think UT considers OSU a rival or cares about OSU one bit you are mistaken.

No TCU fans don't care about OSU either. I already listed TCU's rivals: SMU, Texas Tech and Baylor.

I’m not claiming the Whorns as some big “rivalry”, but they are closer than any of the other future 11 B12 teams. Like I said, the new B12 will present us with no rivalries, just 11, nothing to get excited about opponents.

Yeah, Baylor may claim TCU as a rival, but I doubt Tech will claim you. You’re just trying to hold on to the old SWC.


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(02-06-2022 09:50 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 09:23 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 08:32 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 06:23 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 05:31 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  Clearly OU was far and away our biggest rival. UT was a distant second which tells you where the rest of the league, including the old Big 8, rates.

We’ve been playing TTech annually for 25 years. That game has no more meaning or importance than any other conference opponent.


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You said a rivalry needs to be circled on both sides. You must know that UT doesn't care about OSU right? I mean I don't think OSU would even make the top 10 of schools that UT cares about.

So there must be another former Big 8 school that gets the OSU fanbase's jollies off. Or maybe y'all have always been too busy obsessing over OU?

I agree thought the former Big 8 outside of OU is very underwhelming and hard to get excited about playing against.

I appreciate all the help figuring out who is and who is not a rivalry for OSU. It damn sure isn’t the West Dallas Christian Toads. If there is a rivalry after OU it’s the Whorns. Nobody else comes close to ringing the bell.


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No problem, I mean I don't doubt for a second that you as an OSU fan get excited to play UT. I don't doubt that your entire fanbase does as well. What I am telling you as an Austinite who has spent a lot of time on UT campus and whose family and friends mostly went to UT and who is currently living in ATX is that I have never in my life ever heard Oklahoma State mentioned. There are literally a dozen schools ahead of OSU on the list of schools that UT and their fans care about. As you said a rivalry needs to be circled by both schools and if you think UT considers OSU a rival or cares about OSU one bit you are mistaken.

No TCU fans don't care about OSU either. I already listed TCU's rivals: SMU, Texas Tech and Baylor.

I’m not claiming the Whorns as some big “rivalry”, but they are closer than any of the other future 11 B12 teams. Like I said, the new B12 will present us with no rivalries, just 11, nothing to get excited about opponents.

Yeah, Baylor may claim TCU as a rival, but I doubt Tech will claim you. You’re just trying to hold on to the old SWC.


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There's only nothing to get excited about in the new Big 12 if your team is a non-factor in the conference title race. Otherwise, you'll play one important conference game after another and should have plenty to get excited about.

There are a few natural rivalries in this league, but most of the intrigue most weeks will come from playing meaningful games. And that's fine. In fact, I'd argue it's a hell of a lot better than getting clowned by your one true rival year after year and having otherwise outstanding years invalidated in the minds of many of your fans.

(02-06-2022 09:50 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 09:23 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 08:32 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 06:23 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-05-2022 05:31 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  Clearly OU was far and away our biggest rival. UT was a distant second which tells you where the rest of the league, including the old Big 8, rates.

We’ve been playing TTech annually for 25 years. That game has no more meaning or importance than any other conference opponent.


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You said a rivalry needs to be circled on both sides. You must know that UT doesn't care about OSU right? I mean I don't think OSU would even make the top 10 of schools that UT cares about.

So there must be another former Big 8 school that gets the OSU fanbase's jollies off. Or maybe y'all have always been too busy obsessing over OU?

I agree thought the former Big 8 outside of OU is very underwhelming and hard to get excited about playing against.

I appreciate all the help figuring out who is and who is not a rivalry for OSU. It damn sure isn’t the West Dallas Christian Toads. If there is a rivalry after OU it’s the Whorns. Nobody else comes close to ringing the bell.


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No problem, I mean I don't doubt for a second that you as an OSU fan get excited to play UT. I don't doubt that your entire fanbase does as well. What I am telling you as an Austinite who has spent a lot of time on UT campus and whose family and friends mostly went to UT and who is currently living in ATX is that I have never in my life ever heard Oklahoma State mentioned. There are literally a dozen schools ahead of OSU on the list of schools that UT and their fans care about. As you said a rivalry needs to be circled by both schools and if you think UT considers OSU a rival or cares about OSU one bit you are mistaken.

No TCU fans don't care about OSU either. I already listed TCU's rivals: SMU, Texas Tech and Baylor.

I’m not claiming the Whorns as some big “rivalry”, but they are closer than any of the other future 11 B12 teams. Like I said, the new B12 will present us with no rivalries, just 11, nothing to get excited about opponents.

Yeah, Baylor may claim TCU as a rival, but I doubt Tech will claim you. You’re just trying to hold on to the old SWC.


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Tech hates TCU. They consider us their #1 rival. Tech, SMU, and Baylor are all pretty equal from a TCU perspective, they are all the worst.

TCU also has a nice rivalry with Utah and BYU. The Utah one is starting to fade but I am certain the BYU rivalry will be heated from the first game in the new Big 12.


I'm sorry OSU's only rival is leaving, hopefully for you guys you can keep the game with OU going in the future.

(02-06-2022 11:24 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 09:50 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 09:23 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 08:32 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 06:23 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  You said a rivalry needs to be circled on both sides. You must know that UT doesn't care about OSU right? I mean I don't think OSU would even make the top 10 of schools that UT cares about.

So there must be another former Big 8 school that gets the OSU fanbase's jollies off. Or maybe y'all have always been too busy obsessing over OU?

I agree thought the former Big 8 outside of OU is very underwhelming and hard to get excited about playing against.

I appreciate all the help figuring out who is and who is not a rivalry for OSU. It damn sure isn’t the West Dallas Christian Toads. If there is a rivalry after OU it’s the Whorns. Nobody else comes close to ringing the bell.


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No problem, I mean I don't doubt for a second that you as an OSU fan get excited to play UT. I don't doubt that your entire fanbase does as well. What I am telling you as an Austinite who has spent a lot of time on UT campus and whose family and friends mostly went to UT and who is currently living in ATX is that I have never in my life ever heard Oklahoma State mentioned. There are literally a dozen schools ahead of OSU on the list of schools that UT and their fans care about. As you said a rivalry needs to be circled by both schools and if you think UT considers OSU a rival or cares about OSU one bit you are mistaken.

No TCU fans don't care about OSU either. I already listed TCU's rivals: SMU, Texas Tech and Baylor.

I’m not claiming the Whorns as some big “rivalry”, but they are closer than any of the other future 11 B12 teams. Like I said, the new B12 will present us with no rivalries, just 11, nothing to get excited about opponents.

Yeah, Baylor may claim TCU as a rival, but I doubt Tech will claim you. You’re just trying to hold on to the old SWC.


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Tech hates TCU. They consider us their #1 rival. Tech, SMU, and Baylor are all pretty equal from a TCU perspective, they are all the worst.

TCU also has a nice rivalry with Utah and BYU. The Utah one is starting to fade but I am certain the BYU rivalry will be heated from the first game in the new Big 12.


I'm sorry OSU's only rival is leaving, hopefully for you guys you can keep the game with OU going in the future.

Tech considers TCU their #1 rival? I’d think you’d come close or even sell out your stadium against your #1 rival most every time. I guess Tech does rivalries different.

Have no interest in keeping the game going against the traitorist bastards Zero U.


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(02-07-2022 09:19 AM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 11:24 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 09:50 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 09:23 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 08:32 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  I appreciate all the help figuring out who is and who is not a rivalry for OSU. It damn sure isn’t the West Dallas Christian Toads. If there is a rivalry after OU it’s the Whorns. Nobody else comes close to ringing the bell.


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No problem, I mean I don't doubt for a second that you as an OSU fan get excited to play UT. I don't doubt that your entire fanbase does as well. What I am telling you as an Austinite who has spent a lot of time on UT campus and whose family and friends mostly went to UT and who is currently living in ATX is that I have never in my life ever heard Oklahoma State mentioned. There are literally a dozen schools ahead of OSU on the list of schools that UT and their fans care about. As you said a rivalry needs to be circled by both schools and if you think UT considers OSU a rival or cares about OSU one bit you are mistaken.

No TCU fans don't care about OSU either. I already listed TCU's rivals: SMU, Texas Tech and Baylor.

I’m not claiming the Whorns as some big “rivalry”, but they are closer than any of the other future 11 B12 teams. Like I said, the new B12 will present us with no rivalries, just 11, nothing to get excited about opponents.

Yeah, Baylor may claim TCU as a rival, but I doubt Tech will claim you. You’re just trying to hold on to the old SWC.


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Tech hates TCU. They consider us their #1 rival. Tech, SMU, and Baylor are all pretty equal from a TCU perspective, they are all the worst.

TCU also has a nice rivalry with Utah and BYU. The Utah one is starting to fade but I am certain the BYU rivalry will be heated from the first game in the new Big 12.


I'm sorry OSU's only rival is leaving, hopefully for you guys you can keep the game with OU going in the future.

Tech considers TCU their #1 rival? I’d think you’d come close or even sell out your stadium against your #1 rival most every time. I guess Tech does rivalries different.

Have no interest in keeping the game going against the traitorist bastards Zero U.


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It's called the West Texas Championship and Tech sells out when they play TCU and vice versa.

(02-07-2022 01:43 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 09:19 AM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 11:24 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 09:50 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 09:23 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  No problem, I mean I don't doubt for a second that you as an OSU fan get excited to play UT. I don't doubt that your entire fanbase does as well. What I am telling you as an Austinite who has spent a lot of time on UT campus and whose family and friends mostly went to UT and who is currently living in ATX is that I have never in my life ever heard Oklahoma State mentioned. There are literally a dozen schools ahead of OSU on the list of schools that UT and their fans care about. As you said a rivalry needs to be circled by both schools and if you think UT considers OSU a rival or cares about OSU one bit you are mistaken.

No TCU fans don't care about OSU either. I already listed TCU's rivals: SMU, Texas Tech and Baylor.

I’m not claiming the Whorns as some big “rivalry”, but they are closer than any of the other future 11 B12 teams. Like I said, the new B12 will present us with no rivalries, just 11, nothing to get excited about opponents.

Yeah, Baylor may claim TCU as a rival, but I doubt Tech will claim you. You’re just trying to hold on to the old SWC.


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Tech hates TCU. They consider us their #1 rival. Tech, SMU, and Baylor are all pretty equal from a TCU perspective, they are all the worst.

TCU also has a nice rivalry with Utah and BYU. The Utah one is starting to fade but I am certain the BYU rivalry will be heated from the first game in the new Big 12.


I'm sorry OSU's only rival is leaving, hopefully for you guys you can keep the game with OU going in the future.

Tech considers TCU their #1 rival? I’d think you’d come close or even sell out your stadium against your #1 rival most every time. I guess Tech does rivalries different.

Have no interest in keeping the game going against the traitorist bastards Zero U.


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It's called the West Texas Championship and Tech sells out when they play TCU and vice versa.

West Texas Championship? Who knew?

Sellout in 61k seat Lubbock vs TCU?
2021: 55k
2019: 50k
2017: 51k
2015: 61k
2013: 58k

In Ft Worth
2020:
2018: 44k
2016: 46k
2014: 45k
2012: 47k


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(02-08-2022 05:07 AM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 01:43 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 09:19 AM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 11:24 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(02-06-2022 09:50 PM)GumbyFromPokeyLand Wrote:  I’m not claiming the Whorns as some big “rivalry”, but they are closer than any of the other future 11 B12 teams. Like I said, the new B12 will present us with no rivalries, just 11, nothing to get excited about opponents.

Yeah, Baylor may claim TCU as a rival, but I doubt Tech will claim you. You’re just trying to hold on to the old SWC.


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Tech hates TCU. They consider us their #1 rival. Tech, SMU, and Baylor are all pretty equal from a TCU perspective, they are all the worst.

TCU also has a nice rivalry with Utah and BYU. The Utah one is starting to fade but I am certain the BYU rivalry will be heated from the first game in the new Big 12.


I'm sorry OSU's only rival is leaving, hopefully for you guys you can keep the game with OU going in the future.

Tech considers TCU their #1 rival? I’d think you’d come close or even sell out your stadium against your #1 rival most every time. I guess Tech does rivalries different.

Have no interest in keeping the game going against the traitorist bastards Zero U.


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It's called the West Texas Championship and Tech sells out when they play TCU and vice versa.

West Texas Championship? Who knew?

Sellout in 61k seat Lubbock vs TCU?
2021: 55k
2019: 50k
2017: 51k
2015: 61k
2013: 58k

In Ft Worth
2020:
2018: 44k
2016: 46k
2014: 45k
2012: 47k


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Who knows about the West Texas Championship?

Well people in West Texas of course, and TCU and Tech folks.

If you ever want to know anything else about college football in Texas or its' history just let me know and I am happy to oblige.