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Winners and Losers of College Football Conference Realignment
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(12-22-2021 06:20 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Just passing along…

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/a...t.amp.html

Thanks for posting CJ, but two things immediately stopped me in my tracks:

1) The author says she won't classify conferences that stood pat (did not lose or add schools) as winners or losers. IMO this means an incomplete analysis.

2) Calling CUSA a "winner" made me to spill hot coffee all over myself. This is just silly, IMO. They are the second Biggest Loser in all this, IMO.

Other than that, I agree with her about the other conferences.
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12-22-2021 06:44 AM
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RE: Winners and Losers of College Football Conference Realignment
(12-22-2021 06:44 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 06:20 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Just passing along…

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/a...t.amp.html

Thanks for posting CJ, but two things immediately stopped me in my tracks:

1) The author says she won't classify conferences that stood pat (did not lose or add schools) as winners or losers. IMO this means an incomplete analysis.

2) Calling CUSA a "winner" made me to spill hot coffee all over myself. This is just silly, IMO. They are the second Biggest Loser in all this, IMO.

Other than that, I agree with her about the other conferences.

CUSA was a winner because of losing more bad programs than good ones.
12-22-2021 08:12 AM
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RE: Winners and Losers of College Football Conference Realignment
(12-22-2021 06:44 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 06:20 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Just passing along…

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/a...t.amp.html

Thanks for posting CJ, but two things immediately stopped me in my tracks:

1) The author says she won't classify conferences that stood pat (did not lose or add schools) as winners or losers. IMO this means an incomplete analysis.

2) Calling CUSA a "winner" made me to spill hot coffee all over myself. This is just silly, IMO. They are the second Biggest Loser in all this, IMO.

Other than that, I agree with her about the other conferences.

I stopped reading when author listed MT as the only school flirting with the MAC. SLOPPY.

How is CUSA a winner when our media deal is about to be the ESPN score ticker at the bottom of the screen and that’s it?
12-22-2021 08:21 AM
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RE: Winners and Losers of College Football Conference Realignment
(12-22-2021 08:12 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 06:44 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 06:20 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Just passing along…

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/a...t.amp.html

Thanks for posting CJ, but two things immediately stopped me in my tracks:

1) The author says she won't classify conferences that stood pat (did not lose or add schools) as winners or losers. IMO this means an incomplete analysis.

2) Calling CUSA a "winner" made me to spill hot coffee all over myself. This is just silly, IMO. They are the second Biggest Loser in all this, IMO.

Other than that, I agree with her about the other conferences.

CUSA was a winner because of losing more bad programs than good ones.

And that’s why it was such a bad article —that point was never actually made, it just listed a little bio about the new members.
12-22-2021 08:23 AM
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RE: Winners and Losers of College Football Conference Realignment
(12-22-2021 08:12 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 06:44 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 06:20 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Just passing along…

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/a...t.amp.html

Thanks for posting CJ, but two things immediately stopped me in my tracks:

1) The author says she won't classify conferences that stood pat (did not lose or add schools) as winners or losers. IMO this means an incomplete analysis.

2) Calling CUSA a "winner" made me to spill hot coffee all over myself. This is just silly, IMO. They are the second Biggest Loser in all this, IMO.

Other than that, I agree with her about the other conferences.

CUSA was a winner because of losing more bad programs than good ones.

CUSA lost almost everyone with any hope of a future. Programs like Old Dominion, Charlotte, North Texas, UTSA. Probably put UAB in there as well. They are now clearly the lowest G5 conference. That ain't a winner at all.
12-22-2021 08:26 AM
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Good debate for the offseason.

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I would think C-USA was the biggest loser of realignment. It is now firmly the worst FBS conference and surviving by a thread. The Sunbelt has surpassed it. The MAC almost took a couple members and WKU would probably jump in a heartbeat if offered.
12-22-2021 08:52 AM
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RE: Winners and Losers of College Football Conference Realignment
(12-22-2021 08:26 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 08:12 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 06:44 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 06:20 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Just passing along…

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/a...t.amp.html

Thanks for posting CJ, but two things immediately stopped me in my tracks:

1) The author says she won't classify conferences that stood pat (did not lose or add schools) as winners or losers. IMO this means an incomplete analysis.

2) Calling CUSA a "winner" made me to spill hot coffee all over myself. This is just silly, IMO. They are the second Biggest Loser in all this, IMO.

Other than that, I agree with her about the other conferences.

CUSA was a winner because of losing more bad programs than good ones.

CUSA lost almost everyone with any hope of a future. Programs like Old Dominion, Charlotte, North Texas, UTSA. Probably put UAB in there as well. They are now clearly the lowest G5 conference. That ain't a winner at all.

03-lmfao UTSA has one 10+ win season and now theyre the “future”.

Those are nothing but large market teams that never did anything to elevate the conference. Always blaming other schools or even the commissioner for their failures and shortcomings.
12-22-2021 08:59 AM
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If the point of the article is to get people talking about it, then calling CUSA a winner certainly did the trick. What's the line?:There's no such thing as bad publicity". Same way with clicks.

Let's face it, though. There is no FBS team that would rather be in tomorrow's CUSA than the conference they are in.
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This is silly.

The only real winners were the SEC and the Sunbelt. Big 12, AAC were losers, and CUSA was a big time loser.

The MWC got a small victory by doing nothing, because the AAC dropped below them. The MAC did nothing, and saw CUSA drop below them. But they also saw the Sunbelt is now above them.

The Big Ten, ACC, PAC, all had a small loss from doing nothing, because the gap between them and the SEC is now larger. But they also got a small victory because the Big 12 has dropped to the 5th P5 spot, in a clear pecking order.

Time will tell on the Big 12. Its still possible the Big 12 could rally and pass the PAC to be the 4th ranked P5 conference. But everytime they gain, it increases the odds the Big 12 will get poached again. The Big 12 is really nothing but a feeder conference now for the other P4 conferences. Eventually it will become a shell of its former self and lose its power status.
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I will pass on reading. As a fan of C-USA's Middle Tennessee State University Blue Raiders ...

... C-USA has been the biggest loser in the recent realignment moves — by far.

In fact, the level of Conference USA "loser-ness" likely rivals that of a 17-year-old Bill Dazzle — poorly groomed, gangly, chinless and acne-riddle — attempting to woo the high school ladies. The term "loser" was often deployed to described the young man's efforts.
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(12-22-2021 08:26 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 08:12 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 06:44 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 06:20 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Just passing along…

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/a...t.amp.html

Thanks for posting CJ, but two things immediately stopped me in my tracks:

1) The author says she won't classify conferences that stood pat (did not lose or add schools) as winners or losers. IMO this means an incomplete analysis.

2) Calling CUSA a "winner" made me to spill hot coffee all over myself. This is just silly, IMO. They are the second Biggest Loser in all this, IMO.

Other than that, I agree with her about the other conferences.

CUSA was a winner because of losing more bad programs than good ones.

CUSA lost almost everyone with any hope of a future. Programs like Old Dominion, Charlotte, North Texas, UTSA. Probably put UAB in there as well. They are now clearly the lowest G5 conference. That ain't a winner at all.

UTSA and UAB are the only ones with a future. WKU, Middle, UTEP and Liberty current FBS have far greater upside than any listed besides UAB and UTSA. JSU and Sam have more upside in FBS.
Bowl season has shown the future CUSA will not be the lowest G5. That status has not changed and will not.
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(12-22-2021 09:25 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I will pass on reading. As a fan of C-USA's Middle Tennessee State University Blue Raiders ...

... C-USA has been the biggest loser in the recent realignment moves — by far.

In fact, the level of Conference USA "loser-ness" likely rivals that of a 17-year-old Bill Dazzle — poorly groomed, gangly, chinless and acne-riddle — attempting to woo the high school ladies. The term "loser" was often deployed to described the young man's efforts.

IMO, the Big 12 is far and away the biggest loser. They lost more than half of their overall brand value.

Texas and OU is the biggest loss any conference has ever suffered in realignment.
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(12-22-2021 08:52 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  I would think C-USA was the biggest loser of realignment. It is now firmly the worst FBS conference and surviving by a thread. The Sunbelt has surpassed it. The MAC almost took a couple members and WKU would probably jump in a heartbeat if offered.

How does the SBC pass a conference by taking several of its worst performing programs?
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The losers were the teams in the MAC and SBC who would have been a much better addition to AAC than 5 of the 6 AAC schools.
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(12-22-2021 09:43 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  
(12-22-2021 08:52 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  I would think C-USA was the biggest loser of realignment. It is now firmly the worst FBS conference and surviving by a thread. The Sunbelt has surpassed it. The MAC almost took a couple members and WKU would probably jump in a heartbeat if offered.

How does the SBC pass a conference by taking several of its worst performing programs?

Marshall, ODU, and Southern Miss are not close to worst performing CUSA schools. And JMU will do in SBC what App St has done.

CUSA is now where entry level FCS schools would reside.
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Yeah, the broad who wrote this article isn't the brightest. If she had a point she was attempting to prove (even a dubious one), that would be one thing. But this was just an article she pounded out in 10 minutes, with about 5 minutes of research...

Now, if she was talking about, or even factoring in basketball, the CUSA discussion would be different. It had some utterly horrible programs, and thankfully, they are mostly leaving.
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Based on bowl season so far, CUSA is the biggest winner and Sun Belt biggest loser.

CUSA Sun Belt bound 0-2
CUSA AAC bound 1-1
CUSA detainees 2-1
CUSA bound indie 1-0

One AAC bound (UNT) is still to play.

Big 12 bound and leavers-only BYU has played so far. UCF, UC, UH, OU still to play.
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(12-22-2021 11:05 AM)bullet Wrote:  Based on bowl season so far, CUSA is the biggest winner and Sun Belt biggest loser.

CUSA Sun Belt bound 0-2
CUSA AAC bound 1-1
CUSA detainees 2-1
CUSA bound indie 1-0

One AAC bound (UNT) is still to play.

Big 12 bound and leavers-only BYU has played so far. UCF, UC, UH, OU still to play.

Looked at another way, 6 of the 9 schools that left CUSA played in a bowl, and only 2 of the 5 that stayed did.
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